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Wikileaks Loses Website

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And an update from Reuters: " ceases hosting services for WikiLeaks website -Senator Lieberman" and  "DHS says Amazon has agreed to stop hosting WikiLeaks." Game Over

It seems the days of Wikileaks are over. The Associated Press reports that the website appears to have lost its host. The question now is who will be the next Wikileaks.

The website of WikiLeaks, the organization that just released a trove of sensitive U.S. State Department documents, appears to have lost or left its main Web host,

The main website and a sub-site devoted to the diplomatic documents were unavailable from the U.S. and Europe on Wednesday, as Amazon servers refused to acknowledge requests for data.

Availability of the sites has been spotty since Sunday, when it started to come under a series of Internet-based attacks by unknown hackers. WikiLeaks dealt with the attacks in part by moving to servers run by Amazon Web Services, which is self-service. Inc. would not comment on its relationship with WikiLeaks or whether it forced the site to leave. Messages seeking comment from WikiLeaks were not immediately returned.

Below are the Wikileak mirror pages. So far we can't seem to access any of them:

Real mirrors on different IP Addresses

  • - Mirror hosted in Switzerland []
  • - Mirror hosted in Sweden []
  • - Mirror hosted in the United States []

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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:16 | 769037 GoinFawr
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    So what's so funny then? Are you stupid?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:27 | 769098 GoinFawr
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    Thanks for answering my second question; I'll accept that as an affirmative.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:27 | 769146 Spalding_Smailes
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    Hes a .........Rat.

    Should have kept his mouth shut.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:39 | 769220 SheepDog-One
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    LOL, a hundred bucks says the Smailes kid eats it!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:46 | 769265 Richard Weed
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    Seems to me that it was Squidly... Squidly is everywhere... Assange just has stated that the next big dump of leaks would have come from a US bank... alot of folks mistakenly thought it was BAC... when all of the time it was...

    THE SQUID...!!!

    Ask yourself this question... Who else would have the power to shut down all of their servers worldwide...?

    [when in doubt... it's THE SQUID...!!!]

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:18 | 769415 Problem Is
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    SQUID Theory -- I Like It
    Reasonable hypothesis there blogger Richard Weed...

    Of course Dennis Kneale and your friends probably call you Dick...

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:41 | 769508 Richard Weed
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    Right you are "Problem Child"... actually they call my Dick Weed, but you can call me Mr Dick, if you wish...!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:55 | 769811 MsCreant
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    They call your dick, "weed?" I am giving you a chance to clarify...

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:03 | 769837 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:41 | 769977 zeta34
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    So a senator tells Amazon to shutdown a website with no court order, ** AND THEY DO IT**.


    Amazon, how are you going to feel when another senator asked for your site to be shutdown?


    The solution?  BOYCOTT AMAZON.  Just never buy from them again.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:03 | 769836 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:51 | 769286 Tortfeasor
    Tortfeasor's picture is working for me.  Very slow tho.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:22 | 769435 Careless Whisper
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    something doesn't smell right. why would wiki use servers in the u.s.? even zerohedge is smarter than that.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:31 | 769475 Spalding_Smailes
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    Its all the same. We control it ...

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:55 | 769554 barkingbill
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    by the way're wrong anyway. the "monkeyhammered" website is up and running and so is the cable site....seems as if team America had to punt no?

    or was that a fumble?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:05 | 769593 Eternal Student
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    You're not familiar with Amazon's Cloud Services. You can host your servers anywhere in the world. Of course, Amazon still does a lot of business with the U.S. Government, so that's how they got bought out. Standard Operating Procedure here if you're familiar with infowars.

    One neat trick with the Cloud Services is for locally distributed content. E.g. shows that are only broadcast in one country. For $15 a month, you just put up an instance to be served in that country, and have it redirect the show to your local system. It's pretty neat.

    As far as censoring Wikileaks goes, this is silly. There are alternative networks which have been designed from the start to be strongly resistent to censorship. The Usenet is the oldest, and has survived from the 1980's. That one won't ever go down, and it has seen the greatest attempts possible.

    All this censorship effort has done is to raise Wikileaks higher (ala the Streisand effect). It won't stop the flow of information. There are just too many ways to distribute it.

    Thu, 12/02/2010 - 00:53 | 770942 StychoKiller
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    "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers." -- Princess Leia

    Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:38 | 771102 GoinFawr
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:34 | 769488 DoChenRollingBearing
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    Tort, yes, I just brought up your link.  3:34 PM.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:53 | 769549 tallystick
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    works for me too

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:53 | 769550 kaiten
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    I have no problem with either or Both work for me fine and fast.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:57 | 769290 GoinFawr
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    A 'rat' is a coward who sells out his mother to save his own skin, not someone who risks sticking their neck out for the benefit of ingrates like you, you tit.

    Get your tongue out of City Hall's ass spooge plug, we all know who the real ratz are:

     and as a doting 'enabler' you're equivalent to their anus'.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:52 | 769544 In Fed We Trust
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    Assange will be lucky to keep his life.

    this is either a use Assange as a scapegoat into world war 3

    or The LAunch of Obama's new "SHUT THE BITCH down" powers.  (the net)

    See there is a bunch of sites they want to shut down. Assange is the "911" of cyber/military bullshit. 

    Lets see who Obama shuts down next?

    Why does Obama have 12 stiches in his lip?

    Because the tele prompter read " ....and now I will punch my self in the face.....I mean I will punch .....Assange.  I will punch Assange in the face.. Ya, that's it Nigger


    what would you do if they assinated Obama, blamed it on the terrorsits,  fast track their man Biden, to top post. New war on "domestic white terriosts" good for GNP and the police state. Biden handels the blowing up of Iran with a profitable hand. Currency keeps inflating keeping sheeple happy and fat. 


    Biden wins the 2012 election.

    Quick some one ground that Air force One.....hahahaha



    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 22:48 | 770597 caconhma
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    Spalding_Smailes, you are fucking idiot. "Hes a .........Rat." You use  mafia lexicon. The USA is NOT yet a mafia controlled state like Russia. As a side note, our politicians develop plans to use arm-forces to control America in a case of a large-scale civil unrest. These politicians are idiots who do not realize that in this case the country will swiftly move to a military dictatorship with many of these politicians running for their lives.
    Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:11 | 771154 chopper read
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    50 JUNKS.


    that MUST be a record. 


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 23:22 | 770685 GoinFawr
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    <deleted- showing up in a contextual twilight zone>

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:25 | 769130 erik
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    Spalding, you're fooling yourself if you think the game is over with this move.  That data has been copied the world over.  Is the NY Times going to be taken over by the government next?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:30 | 769169 DonnieD
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    Didn't that already happen?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:52 | 769293 DaveyJones
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    favorite comment of the day award 

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:31 | 769474 erik
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    Yes, silly me, I forget how politically vigilant some ZH'ers are regarding the NY Times.  Der Spiegal, will the US govt take them over?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:32 | 769478 flacorps
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    "Responsible Journalism" = don't print anything that bothers advertisers or your government handlers (keep in mind the government is a big octupus and some of the arms don't always agree with the others).

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:32 | 769179 Spalding_Smailes
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    Sure another Wikirat's will spring up.

    When she does her time will be short. Don't fight the USA you will fail.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:39 | 769219 erik
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    You have faith in the government's ability to stop data flow when they couldn't protect it in the first place.  I don't share that same faith.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:50 | 769284 Spalding_Smailes
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    Give me some insider info/video one the abortion mills in China over the last 30 years.

    Iraq war crimes/murder has nothing on this ...

    Give me some wikileaks on child prostitution mills in India,Asia ... The child slave labor in China ?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:53 | 769296 doomandbloom
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    this maybe a message to similar websites....soon no one will post leaked material.

    mission -1  accomplished

    The next mission is to pass laws around censorship of the internet..

    lets see how that goes


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:08 | 769373 Rylie
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    Alex Jones channel was removed from youtube yesterday, the infowars news feed has been removed from google news (not the google search yet!). They are shutting down free speach and the internet.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:35 | 769491 bobboberson
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    Can anyone confirm this?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:10 | 769615 Rylie
    Rylie's picture or just go to youtube and search Alex Jones Channel

    Search Google News for Inforwars.

    Edited: sorry another Typo I go fat fingers today.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:16 | 769647 Marla And Me
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    You mean that channel, which works just fine?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:45 | 769770 freedmon
    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:56 | 769814 Marla And Me
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    Thanks for pointing it out.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:08 | 769853 Island_Dweller
    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:37 | 769497 BigRedWall
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:01 | 769332 GoinFawr
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    "Give me some insider info/video one the abortion mills in China over the last 30 years.

    Iraq war crimes/murder has nothing on this ...

    Give me some wikileaks on child prostitution mills in India,Asia ... The child slave labor in China ?"

    And who says Assange isn't trying? YOU? I'll take that FWIW (ie 0)

    We may never know now; still laughing stupid?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:04 | 769359 Spalding_Smailes
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    Yes I am fuck face.

    I told you last month go read a book/net try to learn something about finance/the markets/debt/credit/ something ...

    You need people like wikirats to feed your perma gloom .... Lol'

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:29 | 769409 GoinFawr
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    Heh, as if any of that means squat coming from the likes of a stupid lumbering ol' mental dinosaur like you.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:00 | 769809 akak
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    Yes, I am Fuck Face.


    Fixed that for ya.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:01 | 769340 eatthebanksters
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    What is so laughable is that the government could have stopped it before it ever came out, and chose not too!  It's to late.  I am not a Wkikleaks/Assange fan but I find it curious that after the shit comes out we shut down the site and Interpol issues an arrest warrant for him.  Talk about a fuckin wicth hunt.  This is as bad as the guy who picks a fight and gets his ass kicked and then comes back later to slice the tires of the guy who kicked his ass.  This is the total reactionary behavior of a loser.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:06 | 769363 1100-TACTICAL-12
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    He's probably having wine with Soros as we speak...

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:14 | 769394 lynnybee
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    ..... WIKILEAKS is the government !   the gov't is playing both sides, which is their usual M.O. !  So, when B of A goes down, WE BLAME IT ON WIKILEAKS !  ........ end the fucking fed !(i never used to swear like this, either, til i got in touch with the real me on ZEROHEDGE.)

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:17 | 769411 aerojet
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    That's been my pet theory all along.  This is how the Obama Administration deals with out of control government and banks--they start telling the truth, but it isn't "they" who can do that, but some outsiders who happen to leak certain information.  They just took out Hillary Clinton, and now they're going to take out Goldman.  It's brilliant.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:31 | 769472 centerline
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    Lots of politicians know that they have been the fool, played like a grand piano. They are the patsies for the next move as the sovereign crisis turns into a political nightmare.  They played right into it, to find a proverbial gun to their head - captive of the banking cartel.  Can't take them on out in the open... so, why not covertly.  Makes sense.  A little tin-foil hatty.  But makes sense.  This whole mess does seem way to "engineered," the moves going forward like a professional game of chess.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:38 | 769502 Dont Taze Me Bro
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    I second that!

    This latest release was very unusual because wikileaks allowed MSM orgs to control the release process. So you have news outfits like NYT (which is pretty much a propaganda arm of the US government) to cherry pick which cables are to be released. Why couldn't wikileaks just dump the entire 250K docs like they did last time? Why only give access to MSM orgs?

    I guess we'll find out soon. If Assange gets killed in the near future, then we'll know the guy was legit.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:47 | 769527 AnonymousAnarchist
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    You'll have access to everything the media had access to. The NYT's were given the docs by The Guardian (Wikileaks would not give them to the Times). It's good that the media gets them first because it shows how far media outlets will go to protect the state. The Times didn't get this release because of how they handled the last release. Documents are being released each day. You can download all of them. The media won't see anything that you won't be able to see. They just get to see them first.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:58 | 769574 Dont Taze Me Bro
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    No, that's not correct.

    Only a few hundred cables are released to the public on the wikileaks page every day. But NYT/Guardian/etc ( it doesn't matter who got the stuff first, all MSM orgs are the same) have access to all 250K docs, hence, they get to choose the release flow in the least damaging way to the establishment.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:05 | 769597 AnonymousAnarchist
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    You told me your opinion that allowing the media access to the entire batch ahead of time somehow helps the establishment (I don't agree with your opinion) but you didn't tell me what is "not correct". If you're going to tell me I'm not correct, you need to tell me how I'm not correct.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:09 | 769843 Dont Taze Me Bro
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    Sorry I misread your first word. I thought you were saying "You have access", but I just re-read your post again and saw that you were saying "You'll have access". What a difference two L's can make :)

    At any rate, that doesn't change my view one bit. Getting 200 docs per day is not the same as getting all of them at once. What I am trying to convey is that release timing in modern day media is as important as the content of the news itself. And yes you are correct, in the long run things would level out, but in the meantime, NYT and rest of the elk can cherry pick items that support their agenda. In about 2-3 months from now, people will lose interest in the topic and by then they can start releasing the more damaging stuff.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 20:05 | 770232 AnonymousAnarchist
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    I understand your point but I still think it's moot. The NYT can use the docs in whatever way they want to promote the state's agenda and continue to destroy what little credibility they might have remaining but that is no different than what they would do if all the docs had been released[*] at once or if no docs had been released at all.

    As Arthur Silber said in a recent post...

    To justify its quest, the United States invents a series of terrifying threats, all of which, in one way or another, are alleged to be “existential” threats to our very survival. With almost no exceptions at all, the leaders of the American Empire concoct these threats out of nothing.



    Consider the fact with great care. With this momentous and endlessly horrifying fact in the forefront of your consciousness, ask yourself: What does it signify that those who seek still further war and conquest will use the Wikileaks material to provide more supposed justification for their murderous actions? To ask the question, to ask it with the nature and history of American Empire in mind, is to see how completely irrelevant it is when evaluating Wikileaks and its work.

    Of course they’ll use the Wikileaks material to justify their policies. That’s what they do. They do it with everything — and they do it with absolutely nothing. I repeat: That is what they do.

    If you want to avoid their using the Wikileaks material, or anything else, to justify their policies, there is one course you can follow, and only one. Henceforth, you can say nothing whatsoever. But if you choose to resist the profound evil committed by the U.S. government, evil which it continues to commit today and will commit again tomorrow, you must reject that course.

    To drive the point home, let me express it another way. As demonstrated repeatedly by the historical record and by events today, the leaders of American Empire use everything and even nothing to justify their actions and policies. In this sense, the leaders of American Empire are profoundly irrational and endlessly, murderously destructive. Their arguments are self-contradictory, massively inconsistent, and frequently incoherent. Yet today’s leaders of American Empire also possess the most frighteningly powerful weaponry and military in all of history. From this perspective, the Empire has all the power.

    In comparative terms (and even in absolute terms), Wikileaks has no capabilities or powers at all — except for one. And that is the ability to make information available to everyone, information which the otherwise all-powerful leaders of Empire seek to keep secret from those they rule, and from those they seek to subjugate in the future. In this context, and especially when we keep in mind the gaping abyss between the powers of Empire and the single power of Wikileaks, to blame Wikileaks (or anyone similarly situated) for the improper use of the material they release is to blame Wikileaks for someone else’s irrationality and immense destructiveness. It is to blame Wikileaks for actions over which Wikileaks has no control whatsoever.

    Does that make any sense at all? No, it doesn’t.

    Beyond this, it is critical to appreciate the further implication. In effect, Forte and others who make the same criticism seek a mediating authority: that is, they seek some means to ensure that leaked material is used only for purposes they view as “good.” But this represents a failure to understand the nature of the work to which Wikileaks is devoted, just as it represents a failure to escape the reliance on authority itself. Forte (and others) want authority to serve a purpose that is very different from that of the Empire — but they still want an authority to make their desired outcome more likely.

    But the very purpose of Wikileaks is to challenge any and every authority of this kind. For Wikileaks, the only authority that matters — the only person who is ultimately entitled to all available information and who properly should judge it — is you. In this sense, which I submit is the highest and best sense of the term, Wikileaks is a genuine “leveller.” It seeks to make each and every individual the ultimate judge of the truth, just as it seeks to empower all people to make the determination as to what course of action is indicated, if any. This, dear reader, is what a real revolution looks like.

    His latest is also worth a read. Don't worry about the sheep.

    [*] I personally think that if they didn't trickle out, the NYT would stop talking about them after a week. Now they won't be able to.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:13 | 769395 john_connor
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    Agree.  Not to mention Assange could just mail a burnt CD of the Bank info to Der Speigel or something.  He could also email a file to various media.   

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:40 | 769507 AnonymousAnarchist
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    The files were already released. All they have to do is release the key via twitter.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:50 | 769285 Bring the Gold
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    Maybe you should change your handle to "Brownshirt apologist for power jackbooted internet thug sent to crush any resistance to global fascism" Or "I'm a raging asshole bootlicker" if you prefer to be concise.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:53 | 769297 Bring the Gold
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    I'm not sure Asagne isn't a tool of Russia or even some elaborate Psy-Ops campaign, but Spalding you are personally to blame for the American Empire. It's people like you that not only make it possible, but inevitable that Tyranny will further entrench in this country. You and your ilk are responsible for the majority of crimes against humanity. Simply can't stand apologists for power.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:57 | 769322 Spalding_Smailes
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    That was my thought hes a communist/pinko.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:03 | 769352 eatthebanksters
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    Spalding, even if we have different opinions I always enjoy reading what you have to eat that booger!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:07 | 769369 Spalding_Smailes
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    + ..008322 Suppressed Renminbi

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:10 | 769360 GoinFawr
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    Spalding, is this you:


    "...oh I know what you're thinking; you're thinking this guy is just some 'right wing paranoid reactionary' who had a horrible upbringing, and who's father beat him everyday with a bible..."

    Hunh. Go figure. That is exactly what I was thinking.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:10 | 769380 Spalding_Smailes
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    Plug in that rat nest China on the map ...

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:24 | 769442 GoinFawr
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    Well, that settles that. At least you're honest. Duped, stupid and ignorant, but at least you're not trying to hide it. Congratz.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:04 | 769596 Bring the Gold
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    He's honestly just following orders...honestly.

    I can almost hear the tinkling of glass throughout the Reich. Frightening.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:02 | 769832 cosmictrainwreck
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    LOL...great video GoinFawr. But - paranoid as I am - still don't trust them Ruskies, never did. I'm fairly sure Putin has trouble getting to sleep every night churning on how to take over the world.

    Thu, 12/02/2010 - 02:59 | 771139 GoinFawr
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    I can get behind that, in fact off-hand I can't think of any power-mongerer I'd trust alone for five minutes with anything I value...

    You're probably not paranoid anyway; once you've seen something you can't unsee it, and all that cal.

    Heh, Kids in the Hall, yah, those were the days.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:03 | 769590 Bring the Gold
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    Still fighting the cold war eh? Wow. I thought you hated brown skinned people with beards? Oh I see you have been programmed to hate both.

    I'm not a fan of Russia or China which is why I'm not a fan of totalitarian bullshit being pulled by the US government CLEARLY at the behest of the banks. Wake up man, first they came for Wikileaks and you said "Yippeee I have zero vision"!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:53 | 769298 DaveyJones
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    didn't you mean, USA don't fight math, you will fail?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:06 | 769367 wiskeyrunner
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    Excuse me, but your the one fighting the USA. Don't you want the truth?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:24 | 769444 Spalding_Smailes
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    Iraq is a dirty war. BoA is cheating/has dirt on her hard drives/a fraud.

    Is this a shock really ? Uncle Bens global put ?


    The guy was posting info that the USA did not want in the news. What did you think was going to happen. He was going to win ? Bring big daddy to her knees ? No he got monkeyhammered

    Just like Saddam hiding in a hole like a rat' learned ..... Dont fight the fed.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:35 | 769487 GoinFawr
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    Yah, a guy who tries to disseminate facts at great personal risk to himself is the same as a brutal dictator supported by the US gov't (while it was convenient). riiiiight.

    What a rube you are Smailes.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:52 | 769542 Spalding_Smailes
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    The point being you fight the fed you go home a loser. Book it. Global finance 101'

    That moron was stiring the pot' .... Globalism does not need 'the rat' making trouble now.

    I want manufacturing back home/jobs but it does not look like this will happen soon. All the big players USA,China,House of Saud,Russia,Brazil,Inda all want things to keep moving forward as is.

    He was really fucking with a lot more than just the USA. We are not the only ones making money off this global game. We are not in Iraq/Afgan because of Saddam ....

    Many pipelines need a safe home.

    As far as BoA follow the money. Hes fucking with the big dogs a no,no....


    I love the USA. Is everything perfect nope, but its nice. Every other country has dirt under fingernails cry me a river .....



    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:25 | 769642 akak
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    Congratulations, Balding_Snails --- you have now graduated to my elite "always junk" list, along with RobotTraitor and Leo Kolonasskiss.  Your award --- a framed photo of a brown nose on the ass of tyranny --- should be arriving via courier shortly.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:26 | 769134 Missing_Link
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    You can't fight city hall.  How much harder, then, to fight not only the city hall of the entire USA, but of the whole western world.

    Good luck with that, Mr. Assange ...

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:43 | 769247 GoinFawr
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    "You can't fight schmeedidy schmeeee..."

    What a load of recreant bollocks.

    "Drinkin' beer in the hot sun, I fought the law and I won, I fought the law and I won."

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:56 | 769313 DaveyJones
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    The Dead Kennedys is without a doubt the best band name of all time.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:27 | 769139 EscapeKey
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    I'm sorry, could you take Uncle Ben's dick out of your mouth, you sound kind of garbled?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:29 | 769158 Spalding_Smailes
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    Viva' dollars.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:37 | 769206 jus_lite_reading
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    We all suspected that this would happen as soon as he threatened to release the data on the BANKS! EFF with Uncle samantha and you'll get an arrest warrant out for your ass. EFFF with the FUCKS at the banks and you'll have your head bidded off to the highest bidder.


    Money talks. Everyone else just walks. The end is near.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:09 | 769376 eatthebanksters
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    The bank info will still be released, mark my word...and this time it will be done without fanfare so that the powers will not know who or where to block.  I think we are living through one of the most amazing times in the course of human history.  Transparency is now here, even if involuntary.  Corruption at the highest levels can now be put in front of the world. Do ya think this might change how things are done, just a little?  What do you think will happen if the guvmnt tries to limit or censor the internet now?  This is amazing stuff and I'm sure much more will be exposed  in a brief period of time.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:47 | 769531 aerojet
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    Trouble is, we still need to force retribution.  When the average CEO is not making a thousand times that of a regular employee, we'll see some recovery.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:22 | 769675 eatthebanksters
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    retribution is a bad concept...bring people to justice for criminal acts is more appropriate.  When they are tried and convicted then they can be sentenced to the appropriate me that would include taking away all of their and their family's assets, putting them on a boat, taking them out to sea and chaining 100 lbs. of weight to their ankles before consigning them to the briny deep. (how's that for justice?)

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:29 | 769164 Boilermaker
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    Yea, I think he's the big loser in all of this....

    Wait, what in the hell are you talking about?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:40 | 769226 Stuart
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    That's what happens when you threaten one of the TBTF banks.   Big Brother/skynet didn't approve. 

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:54 | 769308 Henry Chinaski
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    They were going along fine releasing US secrets.  They only ran into trouble when they let on that they were about to start fucking with the banks.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:14 | 769870 cosmictrainwreck
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    yeah, agree, BUT that's what's so bizarre... JA certainly knew he'd be leading with his jaw, and don't stike me as stupid enough to NOT know he'd paint a target on his ass.... so WTF? I smell funny sumthin'

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:49 | 769535 barkingbill
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    maybe you missed it, but he did more against the military industrial complex of the u.s. then anyone else in recent history. even if nothing more comes from them(which i doubt), they have contributed greatly. 

    your juvenile approach to politics is typical of many moronic americans who hide behind the idea of "team america" but know nothing of what is done in your name, or maybe you do know and have no principles. could be a bit of both. 

    monkeyhammered is a good expression for someone like you, since you arent that much smarter then an ape. in fact that's probably insulting to the apes. 


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:02 | 769585 Spalding_Smailes
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    Look at every other major power/cult.


    Lots of dirt/skeletons .... Its all the same game. Look throughout the mid east all dictators, really, yes really, nice guys .... Lol...... ???

    Look at China slave labor, abortion mills, you sit eat what I tell you,when Lol' (knee slap ^^^)

    Tell me about utopia and its place on planet earth.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:17 | 769885 barkingbill
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    cant make much sense of this. china has censored wikileaks. im no fan of china, nor is wikileaks. its about the importance of truth and transparency in an age of corruption and secrecy. how much more simple can it get? or do you really think the pentagon is fighting for you? ha ha....ha ha....yes they are your corrupt army, on your side buddy lol. good one. fighting for your interests in the world, thats why your rights are dissappearing and your economy is on its knees. just make sure that shipment of fighter planes to saudi arabia gets through so at least a few companies can make a few bucks. there is always the prison economy at home to keep america strong ....good one!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:02 | 769586 sgt_doom
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    To be expected, actually, given the last batch of cables Wikileaked:

    America's CIA completely compromised the Spanish judicial system by pressuring and colluding with prosecutors in Spain to nullify court cases in progress (reminds one of those Swedish prosecutors gone wild, hmmm?).

    And Hillary Clinton's clearly hatred for democracy and her acting in contravention of United Nations charter and rules (which she is supposed to adhere to).

    And the fact that America's deficits grow rather colossally each time the VP of Afghanistan moves millions of dollars to offshore United Arab Emirates' accounts ($17.7 billion unaccounted for Afghanistani military aid).

    Oh yeah, and that item about Saudi Arabia financing al Qaeda.

    But here are some sites definitely worth perusing:,00.shtml,00.shtml,00.shtml,00.shtml

    Lieberman and all the other Zionist draft-dodging anti-American swine will never win in the long run.....

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:33 | 769718 caconhma
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    Losing a host means close to nothing.

    Just look at various Islamic anti-American or anti-Russian websites. From time to time, they do lose their hosts and in week or two they are back in business.

    I have different issues with WikiLeaks:

    • Why does WikiLeaks clear the contents of their releases with major media? It is not a big secret that the mainstream media in America and EU are controlled by the ruling elite and the governments.
    • How come are WikiLeaks releases sanitized to the point that no real secret information ever released?
    • WikiLeaks is not that stupid to know that by releasing really sensitive information they may expose itself to CIA, Mossad, and other thugs. These people did not hesitate to take out JFK or execute the 9/11 or, just recently, slaughter the entire Polish leadership in Russia with EU and American approval.

    Something is not that simple with WikiLeaks.

    Do they do it for money? No.

    Do they do it for publicity? No.

    So, why do they do it and who provides them with information? Just the volume and contents of WikiLeaks releases tells me that it is quite a sizable operation.

    IMHO, their is a very sizable split in the USA ruling elite. I  think that the Ruling elite is very concern about the entire geopolitical, political, and economic situation in America. I do not think the ruling elite will allow Jews to have a complete control of America and its future.  They know very well that Jews will ruin the country and the the ruling elite future.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:24 | 769103 chopper read
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:28 | 769150 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Julian has to release the data now!  If Julian and his team do not read Tyler I would be surprised.

    Release the docs, Wikileaks!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:39 | 769222 jus_lite_reading
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    I'm certain he will now! The man is smart- his insurance policy is already applied and millions of people around the world already have those files. If he fails to enter his code (because he is arrested or dead) the key is released or so what I read. Smart man is he.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:00 | 769331 A_MacLaren
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    So does this release the "Key"?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:41 | 769238 Stuart
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    Don't say that.   Next, Big Brother will take down Tyler.   So much for freedom.  Ya you can keep your freedoms as long as you conform to what we say they are. 

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:13 | 769391 jdrose1985
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    Tyler is not a threat to the establishment.

    If Tyler were a threat to the establishment, he would be taken out. Simple. End of story.

    Tyler is perpetuating the hyperinflationary myth, basically helping to keep everyone marching without looking down into the abyss.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:36 | 769720 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Tyler is perpetuating the hyperinflationary myth, basically helping to keep everyone marching without looking down into the abyss.

    Maybe as in a metaphor for, 'Back into the cave [to unchain those under duress].'

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:01 | 769827 Hephasteus
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    Ya. Let me go buy some 33 cent mythological gasoline.

    Thu, 12/02/2010 - 03:02 | 771143 GoinFawr
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:50 | 769539 Bob
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    It's going to be interesting to see whether they take us on. 

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:06 | 769603 sgt_doom
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    Well said, chopper, for we knew as soon as the mention of a bankster dump to come what the probably outcome would unfortunately be.


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:51 | 769289 barkingbill
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    no mate. theyve done more with their time on the web then you will ever do in a million years. get a life.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:14 | 769397 aerojet
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    Wow, the PTB are officially terrified of the Internet now.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:14 | 769400 YHWH
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    Did you commies forget to mention that your favorite government on Earth - China - has issued a censorship order for Wikileaks???

    I guess Assange thought he would get the world's governments to champion him... did he even read those cables?  The damage to the USA is nil... the damage to some of the US' allies (and enemies) are far greater.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:46 | 769524 GoinFawr
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    Which actually serves to illustrate just how impartial wikilieaks is, and how dumb you are.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:28 | 769923 cosmictrainwreck
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    commies? commies?! I ain't no commie. Are all ya'll commies?? OH SHIT! I done got on the wrong site agin.... hate it when that happens

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:26 | 769458 asteroids
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    Imagine China doing same. Outrage yes? When will they learn that censorship is dead on the Internet?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:55 | 769555 SwingForce
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    Hey, I resemble that remark...

    THIS JUST IN: New WikiLeaks App at iTunes 


    (Just kidding, but have you ever heard about "bit torrent"? Its for people with large amounts of data to disseminate using no main server or website).

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:10 | 769010 Racer
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    the complete end of any trace of freedom has now gone

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:24 | 769117 Whizbang
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    1. There has not been a trace of freedom in this country since the early 1960s

    2. What part of stealing and publishing private emails and documents represents freedom? It's a violation of black letter law.

    3. The scarier implication is that after two major leaks of united states classified documentation there were no actions taken by the feds. Upon assanga's threat to release Bank of America's private documents, assanga is charged with rape, and warrents are issued for his arrest to interpol. Torrent sites are shut down by the DHS to freeze any pontential transfers of data, the site is hacked to keep it from issuing any more releases. Now anything resembling wikileaks is blocked. Assanga is headed to the torture chamber until BOA gets that thumb drive back.

    4. Much like the climategate leak, this will be completely forgotten in six months, and all of the raw data will be destroyed. Right down the memory tube.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:39 | 769218 TheClub55
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    Agreed w/ 1. and 4. but he is not a US citision and in no way its breaking laws outside of the US (granted if he steps foot in US game over)... or we kidnap him, which is against black letter US law but we've been breaking that law so much that no one care, so sad.

    Personally, I think what he is doing is heroic a government that governs best is open to the light of the public.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:40 | 769224 truont
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    Upon Assange's threat to release Bank of America's private documents, Assange is charged with rape, and warrents are issued for his arrest to interpol.

    Now everyone knows, "Who run Bartertown?"

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:02 | 769349 Byte Me
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    This is interesting. People are quoting that Interpol has 'issued warrant(s) for Assange's arrest' but,


    Reading this:

    It's clear that it's just a notice or request. The spin being portrayed is clearly designed to discredit the bloke. By morning he might be Interpol's 'most wanted'; lunchtime - FBI's public enemy No. 1 and by evening  - who knows? Gitmo?

    The machine tries to protect itself. My guess - BofA shitsheets published early this weekend.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:25 | 769125 dojiman
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    agree to that mate. sad day for democracy

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:30 | 769162 chopper read
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    when will be be ready to use the SECOND TO PROTECT THE FIRST?

    alex jones censored:


    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:45 | 769258 chet
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    Come on.  They'll just find some other host.

    What did these guys expect?  They are a foreign entity releasing privileged information.  They aren't protected by our constitution.

    Did you expect the Feds to just say "aw shucks"?  Wikileaks is playing big boy ball now with the FBI, the CIA, and the US military.  I suspect they realize that.

    They'll just find some other way to do their leaks anyway.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:07 | 769370 cougar_w
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    There are about a thousand ways to do this. In a pinch they could seed it onto bittorrent and half the world would have it before morning. This is theater, the heavy artillery is just now moving into position. And no, the government isn't holding the biggest, not by any measure.

    Learn your network effects.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:35 | 769494 kaiserhoff
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    Why does Three Days of the Condor leap to mind?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:01 | 769582 cougar_w
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    Good catch. I might have to torrent that and watch it tonight. Anyone got a feed?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:59 | 769567 Bob
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    Agreed.  This is a war no formally organized group can win.  None. 

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:10 | 769014 Dixie Normous
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    This is what I fear everytime I click on my ZH bookmark.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:16 | 769403 xenophobe51
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:12 | 769024 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    The US government cares little about the war docs but loses their shit when there is to be a Bank release.  AHAHAHAHAHA, bitchez!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:29 | 769157 AccreditedEYE
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    +100% correct

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:40 | 769234 jus_lite_reading
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:29 | 769163 Max Hunter
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    That was my first thought.. When the leaks bolstered the U.S./Israeli case for war against Iran.. All was fine..

    Now, if this Wikileaks is legit.. and releases this bank info, immediately (if not sooner).. I will retract my bashing of them and rethink Wikileaks as being a psyop..

    Until then, no credibility should be given to Wikileaks.. All way to convenient for my taste.. Doesn't pass the smell test..  And no, i'm not a hippie liberal..

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:09 | 769374 downrodeo
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    I couldn't agree more. And nothing short of that would do it for me either. 

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:56 | 769317 LongSoupLine
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    and THAT's the undercurrent of the shutdown.  Fuc these nazi azzes running our country!

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:21 | 769433 docj
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    Pretty much tells one all they need to know about who really runs things - and has run things for a very, very long time.

    Spot-on, Hendrix.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:02 | 769834 Hephasteus
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    The psychopaths worry little about karmic retribution but the sociopaths are scared of having their eyes dug out with mellon ballers.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 18:05 | 769842 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 21:12 | 770391 Hephasteus
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    Seriously. Something has to be done about those 2 groups. As it is the sociopaths recieve several benefits from the psychopaths. But it's become a managing expectations problem. The psychopaths will behave but they won't keep it up and they can't be changed. So they set up big "show" changes where some raping killing fucktard pretends he's figured out what he's doing is wrong.

    They keep trying to sell the uncondintional love crap which takes the expectations management out of everyones hands and puts it clearly in the sociopaths hands which is why they've become so good at it. Everything from constantly harping about how many advances we'll make and how good things will end up if we stick with them all the way to trying to teach us to accept rapists, thieves, all kinds of crap. The sociopaths don't really love the psychopaths but they can pretend hard enough to make them believe they have friends and support. Then they just sick them on us in however way they see fit.

    The problem is the sociopaths don't really love the psychopaths and know they can't change them. But we should still stick them with them forever and bury them behind a fuck off wall. After all they did benefit from them the whole time. So it's only fair that they pay the piper now. Like I said they psychopaths don't care. They've been treated to the worst we can dish up. So they really aren't afraid. It's the sociopaths that are scared shittless. Because their role in the whole thing is becoming clearer and clearer by the day and they know they psychopaths aren't really going to appreciate them all of a sudden thinking it's a good idea to dump them off. And the people are going to be too fooled for nearly an eternity to know exactly what has to be done.

    You can't make a decent society with this shit. It's just how long it will take people to realize this.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:12 | 769025 SheepDog-One
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    Plunge into total Thugofasctocracy 99.9% complete. Or 100%, but who cares. $99 laptops, bitchez.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:13 | 769031 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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    Time of death, 11:11 Dec 1st.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:56 | 769318 downrodeo
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    "...and in the wake of these events we're left asking ourselves if we do, in fact, have too much freedom on the internet. We must make laws to make sure this doesn't happen again. The terrorists are winning! Diplomatic 9/11! B'YOAH!..."

    -some teevee talking head about 10 days from now

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:12 | 769029 Calvin Jones an...
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    They'll just find a different internet host.  They'll be back with in 48 hours, or after the DoS attack is repelled.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:18 | 769063 Dr. No
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    Not with the NSA controlling the name servers.  The F-117 is now public knowledge.  Their power over the internet has been secret until a strong enough motivation required the revealing of their pwer.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 15:28 | 769147 Pladizow
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    Perhaps China would be interested in now hosting WikiLeaks?

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:18 | 769413 YHWH
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    China is blocking access to Wikileaks.

    LOL.  I laugh at so-called Americans (traitors at heart) who look to China as some sort of savior.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:42 | 769511 GoinFawr
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    And I laugh at so-called americans (outright traitors to their constitution) who still see america as some sort of democracy, and not a state currently ruled by a politcal system more or less equally as authoritarian as the bogeyman's they've been spoon-fed, China's.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 16:47 | 769530 YHWH
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    America.  Love it or leave it.

    Wed, 12/01/2010 - 17:07 | 769584 Bob
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    Make me, mother fucker. 



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