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Wikileaks Loses Website
And an update from Reuters: "Amazon.com ceases hosting services for WikiLeaks website -Senator Lieberman" and "DHS says Amazon has agreed to stop hosting WikiLeaks." Game Over
It seems the days of Wikileaks are over. The Associated Press reports that the website appears to have lost its host. The question now is who will be the next Wikileaks.
The website of WikiLeaks, the organization that just released a trove of sensitive U.S. State Department documents, appears to have lost or left its main Web host, Amazon.com.
The main website and a sub-site devoted to the diplomatic documents were unavailable from the U.S. and Europe on Wednesday, as Amazon servers refused to acknowledge requests for data.
Availability of the sites has been spotty since Sunday, when it started to come under a series of Internet-based attacks by unknown hackers. WikiLeaks dealt with the attacks in part by moving to servers run by Amazon Web Services, which is self-service.
Amazon.com Inc. would not comment on its relationship with WikiLeaks or whether it forced the site to leave. Messages seeking comment from WikiLeaks were not immediately returned.
Below are the Wikileak mirror pages. So far we can't seem to access any of them:
- wikileaks.org - Official Wikileaks Page [46.51.171.90, 184.72.37.90]
- cablegate.wikileaks.org - Secret US Embassy Cables [91.194.60.90, 91.194.60.112, 204.236.131.131]
- chat.wikileaks.org - Secure SSL Chat Page [88.80.13.160]
- sunshinepress.org - Secure Document Submission Page [88.80.2.32]
- wikileaks.com - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.net - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.biz - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.de - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.eu - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.fi - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.mobi - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.nl - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.pl - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- wikileaks.us - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
- ljsf.org - Points to Official Site [88.80.13.160]
Real mirrors on different IP Addresses
- wikileaks.info - Mirror hosted in Switzerland [62.2.16.94]
- wikileaks.se - Mirror hosted in Sweden [88.80.6.179]
- nyud.net - Mirror hosted in the United States [129.170.214.192]
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So what's your explanation for building 7? You know the one that got hit by nothing and Larry Silverstein "accidentally" said they brought down on purpose. What about the insider who tried to make money on the demise of American Airlines and United? Was that just made up also?
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_-_all_the_proof_you_need.html
WTC7 was hit by debris from the North Tower. It was on fire the whole day. Its structure was dangerously vulnerable to expansion of certain steel beams due to the heat of the fires, so much so that new regulations have been written that hopefully will prevent something similar in the future. There are fire department tapes and transcripts backing this up. There are engineering studies. There is film of the fires.
What there is not is a sane rationale why---if it was all a grand conspiracy---the destruction of WTC7 was necessary. It added nothing. Thus, it seems reasonable to accept the video and engineering evidence and add WTC7 to the terrible tragedy that was 911.
Falling debris and or fires doesn't bring a building down in its own footprint. What was the accelerant that made the fires burn hot enough for it to weaken the structure? Buildings have burned for hrs. and still not collapsed. If you watch the video you will be able to see the penthouse on top of WTC7 collapse first. Why would the top of the building start falling before the bottom gave way? The fires were in the lower floors and falling debris would cause damage to the building but not cause it to freefall into its own footprint. Your statements aren't logical.
WTC Building 7.
Forget logic, facts or common sense. We're here to worship in the First Church of Julian Assange.
"Baaah-men."
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2010/12/wikileaks-%E2%80%93-more-israeli-game-t...
George Herbert Walker Bush wishes.
yet you can't get peak oil?
you're 100% right here; modern skyscrapers would not and could not topple. Even a smokestack couldn't. It has to do with centripetal acceleration and tensive vs. compressive loading.
The real issue w/ 911 is why and how did WTC7 collapse? Every report of "911" addresses that building as a footnote.
bUILDING WHAT?
Mosely, I'm with you. Remember, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink...I wouldn't spend to much energy trying to change the minds of 9/11 conspiracy morons; they're at the deep end of the gene pool and always end up extinct, usually by their own stupidty.
All you did in this post was name call. You gave not one fact for your argument. You did cite you agree with someone.
You the man Mr LH. Check out the term "hasbara".
Must be some serious Anti-hasbara out there too. Both show up on this site. Thanks for the term.
Guilty ;)
tmosley: "Remember the flight training they had, where they didn't bother learning how to land?"
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html
"So, to sum up. Hani Hanjour, took a 757, with zero time in type, did the maneuver described above, a 400 knot 330 degree sprialing dive at 2500 fpm, only gaining 30 knots, then 30 knots more descending from 2200 feet at full power, with a very steady hand as to not overshoot or hit the lawn, inside ground effect, at 460 knots impact speed, but was refused to rent a 172 cause he couldnt land it at 65 knots? C'mon... sounds like a bad B movie..."
tmosley: "They were not brought down by the kinetic energy of those airplanes. They were brought down when the fireproofing was blown off of the structural steel members, and the heat from the burning fuel melted them."
A couple of problems…
1/ The whole issue of fireproofing is a red herring. NIST’s paint and microstructure tests of the steel samples from the WTC show that: none of the recovered core columns were exposed to temperatures in excess of 250 C; out of 170 areas examined on the perimeter columns, only 3 (less than 2%) showed evidence of temperatures > 250 C (one of these areas indicated the temp exposure came after the collapse); no evidence of exposure to temperatures > 600 C for any significant amount of time. Especially given steel’s high degree of thermal conductivity, whether the fireproofing was “widely dislodged” in the face of short-lived < 250 C fires is irrelevant. There is no weakening of even unfireproofed steel at those temperatures.
2/ This hypothesis is even more nonsensical than Specter's “magic bullet.” Just as NIST tried (and failed) in tests to get the floor assemblies to fail in the manner suggested by the government's 9/11 story, they also conducted tests of the fireproofing’s adhesiveness. It took a shotgun blast with 1 MJ of kinetic energy per square meter to sheer it off. Only the SFRM that was struck directly by the blast at just the right angle was dislodged.
So here we have the spectacle of an asymmetric airplane crash transforming itself into thousands of individual symmetric shotgun blasts, each striking the fireproofing in every direction at just the right angle, around several floors within and outside of the building, “widely dislodging” the fireproofing from 6000 sq meters of surface area… despite there not being the kinetic energy to do so after it was consumed by the crushing of the aircraft and the breaking of columns and floors.
tmosely: "leaving what looked like thermite in the rubble (which is rust and ground up aluminum)."
What looked like nanocomposites engineered in a defense lab somewhere? LOL.
Never quite understood this argument. Hani tried to rent a 172 on 10 September? Maybe he spent some time on a 757 simulator (contrary to popular opinion, one COULD rent time on a simulator prior to 9-11; it took money, even fiat money was acceptable) after he was turned down for the C-172 rental. Sometimes the truthers say “missile”, then they say Hani could not have pulled off the maneuver. Well, the missile couldn’t pull of the maneuver, so it must have been a plane. Apparently the “conspirators” were able to get a competent 757 pilot with plenty of time in type to crash his plane into the Pentagon and commit suicide? Oh yes, he had trouble in ground effect and was coming in far too low. THAT is the mark of someone who could have used a little more time learning to land.
tmosley,
Appreciate the moment of sanity.
Never quite understood the rationale of the 911 conspiracy and why such things as WTC7 or collapsing on its own footprint lent credence to the theory. I guess a shock and awe moment was absolutely essential to getting the country to go along with the Iraq invasion? WTC7 was frosting? Hardly. And the conspirators had a death quota so that they could not create the most spectacular 7-10 spare pick-up in the history of the world by having the two buildings fall in two directions, thereby taking out another few tens of thousands of people? As for "two guys in a cave" not being able to plan such an attack over a multi year period, well, first that is racist and second it is sophistry. The sad fact is that the plot was not particularly sophisticated except in that it took advantage of the openness of US society (at that time) and the incompetence and turf protection of many different government agencies.
In this or another post today, though, you noted something to which I would like to take exception. You said “bring all our undercover agents home”. I believe you know the world is not quite so benign so that such a move is wise. Control them, force them to live by certain rules, yes, but bring them all home, not a good idea.
The US got into the spying business, at least in the form of the OSS later to become CIA, after the surprise of Pearl Harbor. In the nuclear age, the world is hardly any more safe than it was in 1941. There are more than one AQ Khan’s out there, and folks ranging from al Qaeda to Jama’ah Islamiya to certain countries named as “outposts of tyranny” (as opposed to the Axis of Evil”) are trying to join the nuclear club. I reside in one. I don’t really like anybody having such weapons, but there are people in this world I definitely would not want to have such weapons, nor biological weapons which your own knowledge might allow you to create. Sometimes some of those folks I’d not like to see having such things are even on this site!
It would be nice to live in a world where spies are not needed. It would be nice to live in a world without door locks and car keys, too. Neither is likely to ever happen. As one who has lived in the Middle East, speaks and reads Arabic, has great fondness for many Arab and Moslem people, but who also has had first hand experience with fanatic Islam, I do not think that it is only US ME policy (bad) that is the cause of the US being a target. Our ME policy just makes it easier to draw supporters.
Never quite understood the rationale of the 911 conspiracy and why such things as WTC7 or collapsing on its own footprint lent credence to the theory.
Probably because it has never happened and is illogical. Most would say impossible.
I do not think that it is only US ME policy (bad) that is the cause of the US being a target.
Replacing the democratically elected Mossaddegh with the Shah, mainly because he nationalized the oil industries in Iran.
Backing an Israeli government and its supression of the Palestinians.
Backing Sadam Hussien with weapons against the Kurds and Iranians, (and Bechtel even built chemical plants there)
The backing of a corrupt royal family in Saudi Arabia.
Backing of a corrupt government in Afganistan.
It goes on and on, your only argument that I can see is that if we didn't do it some other country would. We have exploited the whole middle east, Africa, South and Central America and this is fact.
Re 9/11...there are no other buildings with the same style structure as the WTC's which have caught on fire. How should such buildings be expected to collapse if their structures were weakened by fire? The tallest building ever to have been brought down by controlled demolition in history was 27 stories; setting up the CD took a massive crew several weeks. Oh, forget it...
Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahri couldn't give a shit about Mossadegh, didn't give a shit about corruption in ME governments (cronyism got bin Laden his inheritance), never gave a shit about Kurds or Iranians, and came very late to the Palestinian issue, only making mention of it long after al Qaeda had begun to act. ObL grew up in a country where practice of any faith other than Islam remains to this day a crime punishable by public beheading, and where (since the early part of the 20th Century only) it is prohibited for a non-Moslem to enter Mecca or Medinah (I've passed the religion checkpoints many times). Not too much of a stretch to have an inherent dislike of non-Moslems. Zawahri was a follower of al Qutb, who had a deep felt hatred for the West and non-Moslems simply because they existed. Kermit Roosevelt had a budget of $500K, a young CT and a secretary. He only spent a portion of his budget, and it was on printing presses, ink and paper. If that alone brought down Mossadegh, I guess USG employees might actually be underpaid relative to their skill level. Oh, forget it....
Kermit's budget wasn't the real incentive for the Shah and his cronies, but decades of reaping power and profits at the expense of Iranian citizens. Recognizing the state of Israel, taking away any political power of the people, these among many others irritated the Muslims. Maybe Al Qaeda and Osama didn't care about these particular events but it definately gave him an idea in the way western powers worked. I think he did mind the U.S. troops presence in Saudi Arabia, and the way Saudi royalty kowtowed to the U.S.. The way the U.S. played the different Muslim countries against each other and within those countries played the different sects against each other.
As far as WTC7 I would expect that a fire and falling debris would not bring a building down in its own footprint, but that it would bring down portions of it at different times. The point that a controlled demolition takes time to set up is obviously valid, but I don't consider it to be impossible with the suspicious activities that were going on in all 3 buildings.
well put, Rick.
Troofer alert!
If 'troofers' are repulsive to your person to the point where you must alert others, would you then consider yourself to be an anti-troofer? Does that then make you a 'falser'?
Looks like we got another one. Hello, troofer.
haha, hello falser
still going long on gold there?
Yes, can't think of anything I like better than gold for now. Good luck to you.
well we're in agreement then.
look, my problem is with the negative connotation you're purposefully attaching to the concept of truth. To me, there is nothing bad about truth. The only thing that sucks is losing your illusions; that can hurt. I don't know who or what to believe on 9/11. I do have some questions, even after all of this time. I guess all we can say is F*ck it. We'll probably never know the actual truth. I just don't agree that it would be bad if we did. I don't appreciate when jackasses like yourself who happen to know everything about everything try to make me feel bad for thinking what I do based on the (limited) information I have.
The truth still is, you think you may know exactly what happened that day, but all you can do is hitch your wagon to which ever narrative does it for you. I know you won't admit that, but I think it is what we all do. I think that only Dick Cheney really knows, and you're no Dick Cheney, friendo.
Let's be honest, if the .gov isn't savvy enough to protect the data in the first place, why should we think they can stop it from spreading like wildfire? They would have to shut down the entire grid, and that is not going to happen.
They are making the situation more dangerous because the NY Times, Der Spiegal, etc were working with the US govt to censor some inappropriate material. With this action, the .gov is just begging for ALL of the material to be released.
What are you guys talking about? I can access http://www.wikileaks.org/ just fine. Amazon.com....? If that's true what a poor choice of host - clearly they weren't going to stand behind long.
This sounds like a mixup from yesterday's story that some hacker douchebag attacked the wikileaks site USING amazon.com servers.
comes up fine in my browser...
Alright, best line from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly' comes to mind when Tuco says 'If youre gonna shoot, then SHOOT! Dont stand there talking about it...'
"Before the time of the great Purification, they will make metal roads for iron horses and hang metal ropes in the air. First they will bring back pieces of the Moon which will upset the balance and unleash disastrous forces. (ibidem) Near the day of the Great Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky..."
(pre-Colombian Hopi prophecy)
Just saying.
Some more on that.
Native American prophecy. http://www.wimp.com/nativeamerican/"when you have to shoot, shoot...don't talk"
my kids know this as the "Tuco Rule"
wikileaks.org up at this time. lol. bit premature tyler!
Shucks....was hoping the "big bank" data dump would have hit da streets causin' some shit for Uncle Ben. Guess not.
Reuters has a serious problem with fact checking
Wikileaks is still accessible. This article is a bunch of unsubstantiated horseshit. Reuters is becoming worse than Fox News.
WikiLeaks was not a website.
WikiLeaks was a tactic.
Game not over. Not even close.
Wikileaks IS a tactic.
Not past tense.
And you are right, this is nowhere near over. If he is assassinated, a thousand more will rise up to take his place. If he can't find hosting, the leaks will simple take place via P2P with press releases containing the hash/key code to decrypt the data.
He's probably got it set such that if he is killed, his whole haul will be released. Dead men switches are very effective, as the late Dennis Hopper taught us.
The powers in the towers are gonna get a free lesson on network effects.
massive pwnage, bitchez
If people quit clubbing the mirrors just to see if it responds, things will get better faster.
Geez... I was an admin for way too long..
A priest, and rabbi and a mirror walk into a club ...
No way Assange hadn't prepared for this...unless, of course, this is all theater.
I hear the sound of the world's smallest violin playing......
Most of what has been dumped by Wiki is little more than supermarket tabloid material. In a nation with the attention span of a goldfish, Skating with the Stars is what is important.
The big boys know that Wiki has not dumped the bad shit yet. They cannot find the dude to negotiate. He is hiding something in his underwear drawer, and when his parents find it, he will claim he was just holding it for someone else.
right, right. But the free press did not even have this side right. Part of the information was truly benign but the tabloids shied away from publishing it or could not even gather it...
That is THE piece of information. How much the information system is broken...
im on website as i type this..cleared cache too..maybe Big Sis is in same office as BLS..
all the knews fit for shit
it is drama for the drama queens..more distractions. im wondering if even the majority of the sheeple can handle any more distractions. attention deficits rock!!
I can pretty much garrantee you that it will be back up in a week and will be hosted on a cloud platform which will be unreachable by TPTB, and at the same time a distributed DNS eTorrent network will also be setup to keep DNS resolution flowing for "banned" URLs. Everyone in the "eTher" who is at all inclined to breaking down political/corporate oppression will be joining the cause...
Its gonna be a fun ride, folks. Stap in tight.
Well this is the "Chinese Century" and Western "Democracy" (elites) are behaving more like the Chinese state by the day...shameful.
Their primary IP address, 88.80.13.160, is working fine. This appears to be some kind of DNS override/domain name kill being applied. As we all know, this authority was officially given to HS to shut down torrent sites over copyright issues. It's a shame that all Wikileak's sites are sharing the same IP address (common practice) and the page/sub-site that is being displayed is the default site.
Others like ZH facing the same kind of danger of domain name kill will learn from this hiccup and adjust accordingly. You will eventually need to have a unique IP address for each site. You should not have multiple sites under a single IP address as only the default site using that IP will be accessible.
Eventually, they may block IP addresses as well. In this case, various index sites should be set up which keep up with new IP addresses. The problem is that entire "IP Blocks" can be blocked, so new IP addresses will need to utilize unique blocks each time they are established.
ummmm... false alarm I guess!
They can't set up IP firewalls without working closely through the ISPs and border routers and big telco (ok those guys are chumps). In every country. Constantly.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
This is just a punk assed DDOS at the very worst. Will last a day or two at most.
i always knew that Jeff Bezos was a little weasel fucker
Time for some ethical investing, and to short the fuck out of Amazon.
Boycott, Divest and Sanction all fuckers conspiring to enslave you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
Wikileaks isn't perfect , but the core idea of dismantling secrecy is an admirable one . If they would just refine their approach with regard to certain individuals ( for example maybe omitting the names of certain individuals of little prominence in places such as Afghnaistan and Iraq , and instead of listing their specific home towns/cities/tribes , perhaps just mentioning the province or general region ) they'd have an excellent enterprise .
And I will say this : if the data regarding this large US bank is not released , then there is something very very inflammatory contained therein . Honesty and transparency . Are they really that fucking difficult ?
This just makes me so damn sad. I'm not even sure why exactly, I'm not a huge fan of wikileaks but I guess I'm a pretty big fan of their right to exist. It all seems so Orwellian, so iron-fisted and tyrannical.
Amazon proves once again that fascism is alive and well. And that the DHS has nothing to do with "Homeland" or "Security" but rather the complete elimination of freedom and consolidation of power in the hands of the few.
However, web hosts are like mosquitos. Can't swat them all. All attempts to put clothes back on this naked regime will utterly fail.
Agree. What next? Zerohedge pulled? Uncomfortable truths banned?
Dudes! You're being very un-Dude. It's early days. I imagine Assange has other tricks up his sleave. Fat aldies singing and all that.
If Mr. Assange has the goods on a major US bank, he might want to post the info ASAP before he disappears.
So a guy comes along and actually attempts to restore what journalism is supposed to be and he is a rat? You're twisted.
this guy sure has seemed to be smart enough to get this information and always be one step ahead....i would assume (hope ??) that he knew what he was doing when he threw out the bank story , but giving it a 1-2 month lead time, which he has not done in the past (that i am aware of).....so why would he do it this way, when apparently the bank story is the one everyone seems to be wanting to see exposed the most ????
So they changed hosts that quickly?
I thought it took hours, if not days, for DNS servers to reflect host IP changes?
As I posted in a less relevant thread.
This is almost as dramatic as when one wrestler comes up behind another with a folding chair. The crowd screams out warning after warning with increasing tensity, but the second wrestler is unaware of not only the first wrestler, but of the crowd as well.
Then, the second wrestler makes his move, and the crowd is crushed, along with their hero, lying crumpled next to the ring.
Meanwhile, questions arise in the crowd. Is our hero dead? Can he get up? If he does, will he stage a miraculous comeback?
Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode...
Still up.
time for ZeroHedge to take over bitchez!
Biggest threat to the country... financial stability. Is it any wonder that threat of a bank leak aggetated the bees nest? Ultimately, one big bank taking a dump (assuming wikileaks has that kind of dirt) most likely leads to an epic shit storm the likes we havent seen. However, don't be foolish enough to believe that cutting of their hosting or labeling the founder a sex offender is going to stop this. Does anyone for a second think there isn't copies and backups of this information all over the place. Who leaked the bank info to wikileaks in the first place, why couldn't they do it again, why wont they? As someone pointed out, you can't stop information from getting around, especially at this point.
Information (Truth) > US
Biggest threat to the country... financial stability. Is it any wonder that threat of a bank leak aggetated the bees nest? Ultimately, one big bank taking a dump (assuming wikileaks has that kind of dirt) most likely leads to an epic shit storm the likes we havent seen. However, don't be foolish enough to believe that cutting of their hosting or labeling the founder a sex offender is going to stop this. Does anyone for a second think there isn't copies and backups of this information all over the place. Who leaked the bank info to wikileaks in the first place, why couldn't they do it again, why wont they? As someone pointed out, you can't stop information from getting around, especially at this point.
Information (Truth) > US
Still up and running.
The Empire Strikes Back...
Whether it works or not, the attempts to wipe WikiLeaks are shining more light on the situation...in terms of who is in the hot tub lathering each other. Rather like the Fed's 'free money' archive release.
What if Bank of America isn't the next target? What if it's Goldman or JPM? And they know it?
The heart flutters at the prospect.
Let that be a lesson to you. Truth is for the Elite. Now get back to work...or Oprah, whatever the case may be
Don't see you around much. Hope you are well.
Spendin time overseas...I almost forgot there was a [edit] goin' on... But yeah I'm good thanks, hope the same for you... viva la hedge!
Hope you're doing ok D.O.D.
And where did you disappear to? Missed you.
Can't take group energies. Too much drain. Just trying to tap back in has me in a violent rage. The disharmonies are about two to three times bigger now than they were just a year ago. People talk about how america is so "passive" but it's just careful and slow. Once the momentum gets going it's going to be horrible.
if they succeed in squishing wikileaks, then other sites like this one is fair game as well.
theres really no difference, just topic of content to which i would say this site here has more content exposing shit for what it really is than wikilinks. they just do it using the perpetrators own letterhead.
just my take..
net neutrality: is this what the debate is all about!
Site is accesible but slow. Found these related links on reddit though:
http://en.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/eelci/why_is_the_american_government...
http://twitter.com/th3j35t3r (Hacker claiming to be running a DDOS on them)
Re: http://twitter.com/th3j35t3r (Hacker claiming to be running a DDOS on them)
This guy isn't a hacker. He's a script kiddie. He runs a pre-made (by someone else) app that controls some nodes on a bot net.
He uses brute force techniques to "clog" up the "door" into a website.
If a hacker is a "terrorist", this guy is a minor "annoyerist" and not much else.
Yeah, he could make your life miserable if you were a small time website or hosting outfit. But he doesn't fuck with anyone important lest he be squashed like the insect he is. Sooner or later, somebody will pay this little turd a visit. It won't be a virtual visit either. He's been real busy pissing off all kinds of bad people.
That's my take on the "hacker".
Amazon is the backup server not the originating server for Wikileaks?
It's easy to set-up a new host somewhere in the world. Trying to stop it is futile, like playing an endless game of whack-a-mole, with others creating/disseminating copies. As fast as someone shuts them down with legal means, DDOS attacks or the like, there will already be 10 more copies going up somewhere else. Regardless of how you feel about Wikileaks, a teenage kid (actually hundreds of them around the world) could play this game.
still up
Jon Liebermans statement:
This morning Amazon informed my staff that it has ceased to host the WikiLeaks website. I wish that Amazon had taken this action earlier based on WikiLeaks' previous publication of classified material. The company's decision to cut off WikiLeaks now is the right decision and should set the standard for other companies WikiLeaks is using to distribute its illegally seized material.
I call on any other company or organization that is hosting WikiLeaks to immediately terminate its relationship with them. WikiLeaks' illegal, outrageous, and reckless acts have compromised our national security and put lives at risk around the world. No responsible company – whether American or foreign – should assist WikiLeaks in its efforts to disseminate these stolen materials.
I will be asking Amazon about the extent of its relationship with WikiLeaks and what it and other web service providers will do in the future to ensure that their services are not used to distribute stolen, classified information.
Haha.
Leiberman.
Maybe Assange has been accused of selling faux designer handbags via Amazon to finance his vision of global accountability.
Also, the quickest way to shut wikileaks down would be to release info that it has been taken offline, mid day EST, and then watch the website crash as miilions of hits come in simultaneously.
Your tax dollars at work. no muss, no fuss.
I'll play pocket pool till my wikileaks.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/211985/groups_vow_to_fight...
http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-based-dns-to-counter-us-domain-seizur...
The domain seizures by the United States authorities in recent days and upcoming legislation that could make similar takeovers even easier in the future, have inspired a group of enthusiasts to come up with a new, decentralized and BitTorrent-powered DNS system. This system will exchange DNS information through peer-to-peer transfers and will work with a new .p2p domain extension.
Maybe yer DNS lookups are fail? They are making some real big moves in the DNS structures... At Root level.
This is great! Add this to Tor Project ( www.torproject.org )
Köszönöm!!
Hum Amazon huh, and Liberman hum.
Internet traffic cloud
Distributed DNS translation cloud
Intermediate (unidirectional) redirection cloud
Annonymous Server cloud
No way anyone can stop that architecture.
Spot on, Spigot.
Folks have got to get it into their thick skulls that this is not some teenager's basement setup; WL didn't spring into life the day y'all first read about it.
This is part of a systematic and well-planned set of mechanisms for breaking authoritarian conspiracies, the 'mind-sketch' of which can be found on JA's website at iq.org - e.g., http://iq.org/conspiracies.pdf - where you'll also find an interesting article on 'rubberhose' (pronounced 'marutukku') if you have the slightest competence. rubberhose/marutukku is Assange's plausibly-deniable multi-layered encryption protocol: since things like TrueCrypt it has become less interesting, but the accompanying documentation nonetheless gives a good insight as to the guy's skill (or 'skillz' as the scriptonappies like to l33t).
Imagine a million monkey wage-slaves (the tech personnel whose only avenue for gainful employment is with government), against fifty extremely motivated, highly talented folks who ain't in it for the money or the glory. It's a no-brainer who wins that one... the monkeys can back off or be technocided.
Cheerio
GT
This thread just keeps getting better.
Have fun.
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools
They are back now. http://twitter.com/wikileaks
The thing banks fear most are bank runs. The banks need us more than we need them. The next time you visit your bank teller or loan officer ask them if they know what Fraction Reserve Banking is. They never know.
Sourced through bitTorrent, existing content is still 100% available.
Iep, now it's running although some minutes ago I couldn't reach it
They didn't 'lose their webhost' - they were using Amazon's ECN/cloud as a CDN to enable some load-balancing (and to speed delivery of content). Although I would not expect some hack from AP to know the difference between a webhost and a CDN, I expected more of you, Tyler.
The site is back up as I write (from Straya).
Speaking of Wikileaks... how odd is it that the Fed released THEIR doc-dump (after having fought tooth and nail to resist), less than 2 days after Julian Assange makes it clear that Wikileaks' inflows of leaked material are growing so fast that they don't have the capacity to process the leaks?
Remember, every time you see Gate, or Mullen, or Bernanke, or Obama, or Clinton (or Gillard, or Camoeron, or Berlusconi or Merkel or Sarkozy) on the television... underneath them are tens of thousands of seething bureaucrats whose very nature makes them prone to taking any slight in a highly personal manner.
Plus, worms.
Cheerio
GT
Funny, amazon was defending the rights of peadophiles not long ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11731928
GeoffreyT
Please Post more. I would like to see your opinions more often.
Thanks.
Amazon, its a jungle out there
so, what are we going to do about it?
is soros the wikileak nr 1 ? and mark stephens his open society lawyer ?
is the whole thing just a big play for sheeple ?
btw. plenty of mirrors for those who want it >
http://thepiratebay.org/search/wikileaks/0/99/0
as in actually HELP ?
http://www.bittorrent.com/btusers/download
http://torcache.com/torrent/76A36F1D11C72EB5663EEB4CF31E351321EFA3A3.tor...
Want the "Insurance" file?
1.x GB of WikiLeaks dump.
Get all u want.
gotta a key along with it?
Google banning infowars.com stories.
Youtube taking down the Alex Jones channel.
Wikileaks going to the shitter.
Next thing you know, I won't be able to access any of my favorite porn sites.
Those aren't your favorite porn sites?
It's time to start going to your local coffee shop in the morning. Leave the lap top at home. Carry a pistol in a newspapers if need be. Talk , talk , and talk to your neighbors.
I was wondering why PBS was airing an ALEX JONES movie this Saturday.
Here on the Still Free World (outside the U.S. and any of it's vassal/serfs states) we still see and access Wikileaks normally.
Sorry for you guys behind The New Iron Curtain....
i agree. this is a police state, and a conspiracy against once-free people. it all begins with the Fed charging an interest rate on our money supply, which eventually led to a complete break-away from asset-backing, and the banks counterfeiting through fractional reserve lending. wealth flows towards the government and the banks, which, in essence, are all the exact same thing falling under the hierarchy of a specific group of families.
well, they're back online @ http://wikileaks.org/ (from nordic europe that is)
DHS and Liberman announce its kaput, wikileaks shows back up a couple hours later...Assange +1, tam fasco 0. PWNED DHS how does it feel?
Lieberman wouldn't know kaput if it was tattooed on the Squids dick.
Goodbye free speech. Goodbye freedom of the press.
Next up, goodbye Internet.
It was fun while it lasted.
Wikileaks shows what can be done. What has happened to Assange shows what TPTB can do about it. The next move is the people's. I think there are quite a few people who are up to the challenge.
They just got put back up within the last hour or so. They were down all morning. Different IP, they obviously changed webhosts.
Who has the encryption keys ??? Another boot to drop... Oh the Humanity !!!
ZH will be the next to go. Oh the Humanity !!!
Tyler has backup servers and altnet ready to go thru Hormelchilli.com.
USENET News! The one and only!
hey as all the small minded creeps begin to rejoice....i have to crash your party and say...THE WEBSITE IS UP AND SO IS THE CABLE SITE.....BURN!
1 point for Wikileaks, 0 for Team America
Scratch that team America -- they can try to take out freedoms but the Neocon Zionist pigs like Lieberman should never be refereed to as Team America.
They switched back to hosting in Sweden. I think they have their own webservers with Bahnhof Internet AB as their ISP.
There was a land of cavaliers and cotton...
In this pretty land, gallantry took it's last bow...
but it is now a civilization, GONE WITH THE WIND.
Lets see, DHS and Lieberman announce Wikileaks is kaput, an hour later its back up....looks like Gubmint Thugocrats just got PWNED!
No no, we can spin that! Watch this ...
Yes WikiLeaks is back, but at a different IP address in ... ha ha!... Sweden! Ran them out of the country entirely yeah baby! And nobody listens to Swedes or pays any attention to those Scandinavian bitches anyway. We 1! Now for teh b33rz ...
Guys that was me being totally sarcastic, okay? Everyone here <3 the Swedes. Fact.
Seriously, this knee-jerk reaction surprises anyone? If anything, this is just another cyber skirmish. Expect more sensationalist mooning and nationalist cheerleading.
The Netflix bandwidth ruse and Comcasts faux validation is a cover for the resulting havoc of a full-on escalation of state-sponsered hackfests and backbone takedown attempts.
Or is it just pr0n site sweeps week?
What 'if' ZH got shut down, what would we do, where would we go? Back up plan is needed, where plan B will be.
Tyler, have you moved your servers out of the US yet?
route: 46.59.0.0/17 descr: Bahnhof Internet, Sweden origin: AS8473 mnt-by: BAHNHOF-NCC source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '91.121.0.0/16AS16276' route: 91.121.0.0/16 descr: OVH ISP descr: Paris, France origin: AS16276 mnt-by: OVH-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered wikileaks is up...i was just on the site.
The website is working from the twitter link just fine.
if these kooks had anything in their posession that was of any value outside of selling a few papers they would have been red stains on the street.
if there was anything in their insurance.aes256 that was truly damaging assange would be dissolving somewhere in a tank, but there isnt. if anything, all those oh so clever by halfwits who continue to donate and support wikileaks don't want their dirty laundry getting out, search for gap-insurance.aes256 to get the gist of that.
also, I've noticed that wikileaks hasn't spent much time delving into the reds, maybe hes smarter then he looks, the gloves would certainly come off if putin was to get anywhere close to being embarassed by this punk.
Russia already had their turn up at collapse. Took some lumps. The rest of the shit houses need to take their turns now.
agreed, satan (did I say that?). Don't follow MsCreant's logic; that was pre-wikileaks. I still think the guy is a shill (who's), the proof being as you said
My logic was addressing this. Instead of him being afraid of Putin, I was just saying that there are plenty of lying, cheating, fraudulent, unstable states that need a little push to knock their asses over. Russia does not top that list. They have been through some house cleaning with their collapse. USA, EU, China, now there are some ripe pustular sores waiting to get popped!
you'll get no argument from me on that, Ms....... but I still think something fishy in wikileaks; it's just tooooo dramatic, like a wanna-be espionage thriller with Harrison Ford in lead
If the US government had the ability to shut down Wikileaks they would have done so. Failure to do so is prima facie they haven't anywhere close to that kind of power.
All the feds are doing is beating bushes in an panicked attempt to flush collaborators. That and taking on a fight with the most savvy minds behind the Internet.
Let's see now: US Government cyber-drones (think TSA behind a keyboard) vs. hundreds of thousands of Internet whiz kids. I'm not wasting time wondering how that's going to work out.
Yamamoto's "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." comes to mind. Only the sleeping giant is not the US gubmint.
Instead of backing down and moving into standard data collection mode, TPTB are setting up water boards and connecting battery cables to the Internet at large. The negative feedback from bystanders alone will likely fry our cyber-war centers into overcrisp bacon munchy treats.
Not a smart move.
fuck amazon.com - i'm taking my book business elsewhere....
and fuck bp - i haven't bought a drop of that asshole company's gas since it lied about massive co-rexit dumping and lied about the amount of oil gushing into the gulf....
yeah those 'internet whiz kids' keep hacking the gibson. :rolleyes:
exactly what "damage" was done by leaking this crap anyway? did we somehow let the cat out of the bag that DPRK was selling shit to Iran? Oooooh big secret. Quadaffi is a nutjob, wow who knew? Argentinian bimbo cum "president" likes pills, her and every other broad over 40.
Like I said, other than embarrassing language outside of the common diplospeak and DC cocktail party set, there wasn't much of anything "secret" in this latest dump. Frankly, nothing wikileaks has leaked has been of much real value to anyone who isn't paid to give their opinion on a TV show, or whose livelihood depends on barrels of ink.
Just because Uncle Sam stamps it "Secret" doesn't mean it is.
Take a step back. Think about this:
What WikiLeaks has leaked is the sudden understanding that anybody with a secret that shouldn't be can get it on the Internet in a huge way. The NY Times won't do it, Comcast won't do it, MSNBC won't do it. But WikiLeaks will do it and take whatever heat comes from doing so.
Doesn't mean you won't get hooked for it, you might. And WikiLeaks will take lumps and be dragged before Congress and have their website DDOSed and wtf else. But it will get out there and nobody will be able to stop it. If you have a patriotic duty to fulfill that transcends your own well being, you can fulfill it.
That right there is a big deal. That my friend is epic. And I say, bring it on.
In all your time posting here I have never, NEVER, seen you this optimistic. ;-) You are one happy cat. Do you sit purring at night, imagining one of those "torrential" dumps coming your way?
More than this, with your expertise, you are seeing a way to be a warrior in this fight that is meaningful, eh?
I like it.
Yes I'm optimistic. There is a lot of technology lined up behind this, WL is making all the correct moves. Defense in depth, redundancy, distributed command and control, amorphous targets. I'd be surprised if they lose in any substantial way.
Interesting board game here. All the pieces are in motion. I know what they are doing. I don't think they can lose.
This is a proxy cyber warfare exercise. The russians have fed assange all this stuff to see what our tactics would be.
If you're serious about free speech and your freedoms, you'll crush those that try to take them from you. Boycott Amazon and buy off someone else!