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WikiLeaks Prepares To Release "Largest Cache Of Secret U.S. Documents In History"
The Pentagon is not too happy this morning. As the AP reports, WikiLeaks is about to release what the Pentagon fears
is the largest cache of secret U.S. documents in history — hundreds of
thousands of intelligence reports compiled after the 2003 invasion of
Iraq. While WikiLeaks has not commented on the imminent announcement, it tweeted earlier that there is "major WikiLeaks press conference in Europe coming up." And as this disclosure would be the "most massive leak of secret documents in
U.S. history" defense officials are racing to contain the damage. As a reminder WikiLeaks' last release of Adghanistan war logs made founder Julian Assange some of a persona non grata in most of the developed world. Of course, the buzz about who may be behind Wikileaks still seems to circulate every now and then. Additionally, Wiki advised interested parties who wish to book the announcement in advance to email the following address, sunshine.booking@mail.be, which however appears to be a broken one. Of course, it merely adds to the "mystery." Regardless, we will follow this and present wiki's findings as they become available.
More from the AP:
A team of more than a hundred analysts from across the U.S. military, lead by the Defense Intelligence Agency, has been combing through the Iraq documents they think will be released.
Called the Information Review Task Force, its analysts have pored over the documents and used word searches to try to pull out names and other issues that would be particularly sensitive, officials have said.
The task force has informed the U.S. Central Command of some of the names of Iraqis and allies and of other information they believe might be released that could present a danger, officials have said, noting that — unlike the WikiLeaks previous disclosure of some 77,000 documents from Afghanistan — in this case they had advance notice that names may be exposed.
That previous leak, back in July, outraged the U.S. military, which accused WikiLeaks of irresponsibility.
But The Associated Press has obtained a Pentagon letter reporting that no U.S. intelligence sources or practices were compromised by the posting of secret Afghan war logs.
Although U.S. officials still think the leaks could cause significant damage to U.S. security interests, the assessment suggests that some of the administration's worst fears about the July disclosure have so far failed to materialize.
In the meantime, here is some video entertainment from Wikileak's last release.
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I wished they'd get on with it already and release info on the whole UFO/ET issue.
Actually more and more developed countries are doing just that. Britain, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and many other countries are releasing massive amounts of information regarding programs they denied for decades even existed. The US is still saying the rest of the world is crazy. Consider the source when pondering that statement.
when everyone in the neighborhood is crazy you got to be crazy too...thats the new normal...
we're all kinda crazy, read some of CD's articles. I think we can all agree though that not all of this can be explained by the, 'it's just a weather balloon' excuse. We can be more adult than that.
Be careful talking about ufo's, my comments were scrubbed the other day, my electric power was cut off, when the power came back on, my PC was wacked...waiting for the knock on my door now.
Knock Knock
:>)
Thank god it's you CD, you're welcome here anytime.
I've also had some "experiences" which others would say couldn't/wouldn't happen (because our government just doesn't do that type of stuff sooooo I must be paranoid) but none-the-less did, including visits to my home when I wasn't there and other assorted hanky panky.
I've been an activist for many years so this is all SOP. The intent is to instill fear. Psyops 101
Did you ever stop to think perhaps the it's not the government that is suppressing information about E.T.'s, and that perhaps E.T.'s themselves might want to manage the flow?
Yes I have. I've been even further off the reservation than that. All very interesting.
And at this point unbelievable by the vast majority of people who believe everything they see and hear is "real", particularly if the info comes from someone in authority. While everyone in the room will say they don't believe the "authorities" nearly everyone will turn to the authorities for information.
Isn't that strange?
seriously? I can never tell because voice inflection is lost on the keyboard, but seriously?
Maybe I should rethink posting comments while I'm at work. Then again, screw it...my thoughts are my own
I understand what you're saying here as well as your direct meaning.
But you might be surprised how much what you "think" is your own thought is not. Or at least it's often not "original" thought, but rather planted through some very devious and subliminal methods as part of our conditioning. The Matrix runs very deep.
"Mind Programming: From Persuasion and Brainwashing to Self-Help and Practical Metaphysics"
http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Programming-Persuasion-Brainwashing-Metaphysics/dp/1401923321/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1287768783&sr=8-1
LOL, I was literally just going to amend my comment with a (hopefully) behind the 'my thoughts are my own'. The ego always pops in to say, "hello, how are you this morning". Thanks for keeping me honest CD.
I'm always trying to guard against the predictive programming and such, but I've discovered do my dismay that most of what is inside of my head has been put there by something other than critical thought. There lies a long and tedious journey ahead.
Hey, this is off topic but I thought you'd be interested. It's long, but you may want to least read the abstract and save the rest for a rainy day.
http://dbem.ws/FeelingFuture.pdf
It is an extremely difficult battle that will not be won in my lifetime. After all, we are pushing back against thousands of years of social conditioning that has been assimilated into our language, our social customs, our architecture, our "science" and so on. If we make 2% progress, we are 98% ahead of everyone else.
Hm-mm
(strokes beard that was shaved off 10 years ago)
Very interesting. It has been placed at the top of my "To Read" list.
Thanks.
removing the amygdala is one path to increasing the possibilite that what's inside one's head has been put there by critical thinking, I think.
- yes downrodeo, I'm as serious as an heart-attack.
wow, i'm pretty amazed by that, but I guess I really shouldn't be. Take care of yourself, my friend.
Wikileaks is a CIA Front, leaking useless information re the US. Why, so in part they can use the website to embarrass other countries, and as a honey trap to sucker in naive whistleblowers. What have we REALLY learned from Wikileaks?
Notice that Assange is still breathing (althrough he does look like a corpse), and travels freely. Notice that Assange is annoyed by 9/11 Truth (gee I guess the magic giant must have pushed down WTC 7)
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-22/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-a...
Pay no attention to this fucking clown.
Yep, and the mass media love towards Wikileaks is a giant RED flag. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/213080-Beware-Julian-Assange-and-Wikil...
You are correct, much of the world are opening up on many programs in regard to disclosure of ET life and other things that the US wanted kept quiet. You can only control so much, eventually every dam breaks.
Awesome avaatar adeptus.
ET/UFO release is imminent. Vatican ET ambassador for heaven's sake. Get ready to Meet the Grays.
Anyone followed the Gary McKinnon story? So much bigger than this silly bullshit CIA front companies painfully drawn out data dumps, probably just appropriately sanitized.
Gary McKinnon on the other hand found Space Command, USSS This and USSS That.
Wikileaks is the master distraction. Of course wartime shit has happened. If Abu Gharib was the visible face, it will take a barely functioning intelligence to figure out that much worse goes unreported.
Wikileaks is not whistle blowing, it's conditioning everyone for what is coming to neighbourhood near you.
Get ready to get Baghdaded and Basra'ed and Helmanded and Palastined...we are so destined.
Gurdjieff explained it best. May I suggest Beelzbub's tales to hsi GRandson as bed-time reading as the Ape O Calypso unfolds and soon we will all be dancing with the stars.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Precisely. Here is the tell:
"But The Associated Press has obtained a Pentagon letter reporting that no U.S. intelligence sources or practices were compromised by the posting of secret Afghan war logs."
They're not really leaking anything if nothing new is learned. We've known everything that wikileaks has told us. I don't see what was disclosed. Of course the video is horrific. That is kind of the major theme within warfare.
I agree that McKinnon is one of the biggest unknown stories of our day.
Que MSM reports about Julian Assange eating babies. Character assassination time.
I'd prefer just the assassination part. love to do it myself.
Big Ditto. I'm on it!
Care to elaborate on why?
ignore the shills. Your tax dollars hard at work
Hey, where are you guys stationed? Bored much?
Wow! What a tough guy!
I hear he once beat up his sister..and she was nine months older!
Glad to see that someone with a Gadsden flag for an avatar advocates the murder of people who are inconvenient to TPTB.
It's people like you that give the Tea Party a bad name, and I don't say that lightly.
"Don't tread on me" long ago became the rallying cry of corporations.
General Gadsden would want to be the first to shoot these useless fucks in the head.
Patriots do not support their government above all; they support the inalienable rights of their fellow citizens above all and after lunch topple the government. As for corporations ... well ... we have wooden stakes for vampires.
You know you've crossed over into the twilight zone when not just the government, but your fellows "citizens", tell you that to demand the "authorities" be accountable is unpatriotic and treasonous.
A conditioned mind is a terribly difficult thing to free.
A conditioned mind doesn't deserve to be free. They deserve the tyranny they embrace and nothing less, and can have their own country in Hell. One fine day the Devil will receive these conspiring tools in their ripe fullness. Nor would it be the first time their weak fat boiled there. Hell's chambers are wallpapered with the burnt hides of those small cowards who mouth this tepid patriotism.
All hail the Gerbervore patriots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbxfe7DMxVo
Sure. I like to be kept in the dark and assume that our valiant military is doing god's work.
That's just because you're a 'coon. :>)
See there you've gone and done it. I suggest you head for the hills.
Gone in 60 seconds.
59
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Shit, what are those two little balls of light in front of me?
OMG, there are hundreds..............
I've sent the posse out after your raggedy ass...
F**k WikiLeaks. More "bin Laden is alive and well", "Pakistan is the next target" kind of "leaks"? Assange looks like a CIA poster child, "hunted in most of the developed world" while laughing his as$ off right out from Washington, DC.
Maybe I missed something, but if Wikileaks doesn't start releasing Russia's dirt, and China's, and... they end up as just another America-basher.
All states are insane, not just one.
Neither Russia nor China are involved in foreign wars. They haven't released anything about domestic military operations.
LOL!!!
ROFLMAO + inf bugs
Golly, you talk just like Jesus. Learn much at CCD?
I am sure nothing about the Fed reserve. This is PSI OPS plane and simple.
Just remember that the claimed impact on national security will always be directly proportional to the amount of deceit and incompetence revealed by the leaks.
Take that one to the bank...
Talking about that, I thought the FED was going to release documents on the exact money received by failed banks in 2008, and I also thought the FED was going to be audited.
All that has been swept under the rug for 'national security' reasons?
OR what you think and reality are two different things. There never was a Fed audit in the works...that was just Ron Paul ranting.
*There was never a FED audit in the works* Well of course not, they all have to save their phony baloney jobs....now back to declaring all is WELL!
Are we finally going to find out who killed JFK?
My guess is Dick Cheney.
Nobody gets that information. Its like the Lost Ark. That is the event that transformed America into this empire we have currently and it has been guarded with hundreds of random muggings turned murder and suicides.
Not true. THEY are much subtler, with witnesses dying of random diseases and "old age", even decades after the event. If we extrapolate the timeline far enough, every single witness to the JFK assassination will be dead. Heck, even people who simply heard about it or read about it are dying!!!
Many years ago there was a multi part made-for-TV program that was called "The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald" or something close to that. The show took the position that Oswald was not killed but was in jail and would not talk. So it followed Oswald's public defender and the prosecutor as they prepared their cases. The show attempted to document the mysterious deaths of the various witnesses as the trial date approached. The program ended without a trial so the audience could make up its own mind.
It was a long time ago and I cannot find any record of the show. If anyone here on ZH knows about the program and where to get a copy let me know.
juden fetzen
Got that right.
HANG ISRAEL-FIRST TRAITORS TO THE US!
There's a lot of wisdom in that phrase from Weimar. "Jew confetti". Even after all we've seen to date with the banksters people are still caught in that fantasy world spun by the Matrix. I'll laugh all the harder next year when the dollar shows its true face: juden fetzen!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc&feature=related
Slaves!
USRAEL you sound like a fake jew-hater to me. Why do you keep posting your bullshit comments and severely degrading the quality of this site?
You are either mentaly impaired or a TROLL or BOTH which I suspect the most.
Make everyone a favour and disappear
It's easy to use the search box at the top right of the page and find references to the pet peeve or topic of your choice. Once found, jump right in with what would appear to be a relevant comment. Then move on to the next website on the list and search again. Few of these folks really engage in a discussion ('cause there ain't none to be had).
There are few posts that I junk without comment, but these are in that group.
Agreed because to comment would just validate the troll.
The streaker doesn't streak in order to be naked and free, but to be seen and (at least in their mind) validated.
That's exactly what they are! Streakers.
Come here, show their ass, and leave quickly.
Ya see, folks, it never really goes away. This time the excuse is "bad Israel."
Sure, the state if Israel may do bad things (name a state that doesn't!), but it's just an excuse. They want to hate Jews, and this is how they get to do it.
Last time, it was "they are Bolsheviks," the time before it was something else, and the time before that...
They're back.
Not entirely wrong, but not entirely right either. While I dont think its correct to blame Jews for everything wrong on the planet, its equally short sighted to blame everything on those who dislike them.
Lets say I move to a new house. Sometime later, my neighbors all gather at night with torches, drive me and my family from my home, and throw us out of town.
I try again elsewhere and the same thing happens. Angry mobs, beatings,and ejections. Crap, time to go elsewhere
Third attempt, same deal and this process repeats wherever I seem to go.
Now one, two or even three times I can say that all of these people are bad people and are mean for no reason.
When I am up to the 250th repeat of the same thing, its time to realistically look at my own behavior and admit that there is something about what I do and how I act that incites other people.
If I encounter the same misfortune a couple of times, it can be bad luck or the actions of others. At a couple of hundred repeats a pattern shows itself, and if the other people involved are from a highly variable range of peoples and cultures, its time to consider that the driving factor would be me and Im not really the constant victim that I claim I am.
i know german too
incorrigible douche = zaknick
go fuck yourself with a pineapple
Sounds like you're endorsing your favorite activity, which would help explain the nature of your commentary. And why any old corn cob just won't work for ya anymore.
Well, some Suzy SpaceCadet from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS -- ya know, the place where Kissinger, Brzezinski are at, and the former job site of the present CEO of that Rockefeller company, Rockefeller Financial Services (Reuben Jeffery III), claimed that the best way to identify a terrorist was to utilize link analysis (something which Google, and other search engines are based upon).
Well, using link analysis we find that Averill Harriman and David Rockefeller had zero links to everyone (meaning they knew everyone involved), and only one link apiece from Oswald and Ruby (a k a Jack Rubenstein, former investigator who worked for the Representative Richard Nixon at the House Select Committee on UnAmerican Activities).
I would posit you read Brothers, by David Talbot and JFK and the Unspeakable by James Douglass, to find the answer.
So the public was told that great damage would be done to the US and its allies if these secret documents were released. But all that was damaged was the public persona and image of the US and its leaders.
So please explain to me once again why I should believe ANYTHING told to me by any government leader in any country? I hear arguments that there must be some level of trust or one just destroys themselves from within. Sorry, but I don't buy that. The government lies to you, me and everyone else for any reason and no reason.
We all must treat anything coming from any government source or any other source who's interests can't be verified with extreme caution. They are treating us as the enemy. It would be the ultimate in stupidity for me to consider them friendly when they treat me as the enemy.
I wish I could, but that's just not going to happen. Trust isn't something you just start out with, it's something that has to be earned. You don't know me, I'd bet my left nut you dont' trust me. Maybe one day I could do enough that you'd trust me, but that trust wouldn't just magically appear because I asked for it or expected it.
Why should the government be any different?
What the F#$K has the Government done in recent memory that would compell ANYONE to believe ANYTHING they say? Mission Accomplished, Change you can believe in, the recession is over, unemployment is at 9.6%. We could go on all day here.
I'd go a little further and say don't believe a thing they say. It's not some patriotic duty to just trust them because they're politicians.
I was going to originally comment on this perspective, but it would have made my comment too long so I didn't. But there are a group of people who do just "trust" someone other than "loved ones" and that is children. Unless cautioned by adults, most (notice the word "most") children will simply trust adults.
And herein lies the power behind the propaganda and psyops that is used against us. Our government has systematically devolved the general population down to the emotional and intellectual level of young children, say from 6 to 10 years of age. Our ego hide this condition from ourselves. This is done using many different methods, all of which revolve around huge doses of FEAR coming from dozens of different sources with the magnitude and duration roating from one to another to suit whatever hidden goals TPTB has.
A frightened child will run into the arms of a person the child already knows is a molester in order to get away from a danger s/he perceives to be even greater. Combine this with the Stockholm syndrome and abused spouse syndrome and passive/aggressive tendencies conditioned and programmed into us from birth by "the state" and its MSM mouthpiece and it is any wonder we are all insane?
Of course, insanity is a relative term. When all around you are other insane people led by an insane government, it all looks quite normal, doesn't it? How do you see outside the Matrix when there are no tools designed to see anything other than the Matrix?
Save us uncle incorporated! Uncle Sam and his big government goons are out to get me!
This is a great read:
The Underground History of American Education
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/ughoae.pdf
John Taylor Gatto ( a former Award Winning NY school teacher ) explains the history purpose of our education system.
Keeping us all childlike is the goal..were much easier to manipulate that way.
Sadly, those most likely to influence the public mind and to wake many from their slumber are so indoctrinated into the system and so dependent upon the system that they will never, could never, accept any other meme than the one they themselves promote.
The majority simply do not, cannot, understand on either a individual or collective basis how strongly conditioned and trained we are. And our ego is so large and so controlling that it would be a terrible blow to our self image and self esteem if we were to admit that we are not what we think we are nor are we nearly as "free thinking" as we desperately wish to believe we are.
More the vast majority, this subject is simply and utterly unbelievable. Oh sure, the so called "open" mind will give some small support to some of what is exposed in this reading as well as other sources. But the conditioned mind simply cannot rebel from its conditioning without first suffering a breakdown, followed by being rebuilt from the ground up. This is the great black abyss that so many don't dare even acknowledge let alone gaze into.
This is why "we" must lead in this area so that eventually our leaders will follow. This will not happen from the top down. It must and will be a grass roots awakening.
Tight posts CogD. It seems you focus even more sharply in the presence of heavy breathing trolls.
They're hyperventilating
'its only after we lost everything, that we're free to do anything..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg3m8wRVXWg
I went to public school my entire life, sujected to the same government brainwashing and conditioning, but somehow when I had kids of my own I figured it out...no breakdown...just gradual realization that things were not as the authorities would like us to believe. I knew my job as a parent was to raise my children from dependence to independence and I found it was impossible to do that without seeking the truth.
+1 Awesome. We need more people like you. It is very encouraging to know that it happens spontaneously as well as through the gentle nudging of those around us, which is how I came around.
"they" (tptb) are terrified of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmbzJGf90Xc&feature=related
Yes, and the tipping point that starts the chain reaction appears to be rather small. Depending upon the approach you take to the phenomenon, as little as 200,000 to no greater than 5% of the population.
Which when you think about it is very encouraging. The more the ball is pressed under water, the greater the pressure there is to pop to the surface. This is why we see a rapid escalation in state suppression.
Vietnam was a turning point. The concept of "fighting for your country" as had previously existed in WWII was totally destroyed. When I saw the Memorial in D.C. to the 58,000 dead I had to ask myself again, "Why?"
And Hanoi Jane is back with Ted. All is forgotten.
I've been lurking on ZH for a while now and am increasingly finding it my first port of call when I log in every day. And I have been enjoying your postings, CD.
In turn, you may enjoy Rothbard's musings on the subject of government:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard62.html
Good read.
As long as man finds it necessary for the "state" to run it's affairs, man can never consider itself free. In my opinion, the idea that "there are some things only the state is capable of doing for the society" is itself a red herring.
Reminds me of something my son and I would talk about. After he would tell me how some "decision" was too hard to make (which meant the circumstances meant the "right" choice was the choice that selected against him) I would always tell him the choice is easy, it's the doing that's hard.
When people tell me there are things only the state can do, they are saying there are things they don't want to do. Thus they have immediately exposed themselves to manipulation and abuse by exposing to the sociopath their Achilles heel. It's all down hill from there.
Hey, Jimbo. Welcome aboard. Gotta warn you about that CD guy -- he'll mess with your head. Be careful. He has me well indoctrinated now, but the struggle was bloody.
I know it sport to blame the government or our loved ones for all the mis-information, lies, half truth ect.
The bottom line is this. The lie's we tell our self do more harm than any other form of deception. We don't want hard answer's. We like are "truth" sweet and pretty. In all honesty the truth is one ugly son of a bitch. And hurts like HELL.
Ponder that for a moment.
Another reason Walt made so much money
+1. Compare any of the disney movies with the real fairy tales they are based on...total whitewashes. We used to prepare our kids for life. Now we prepare them for codependency.
Walt's ultimate cartoon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00u6qUelp6c
I don't know why you're junked, unless it's by someone that deludes themselves into thinking what you're saying is anything but the truth.
It's like the BS 'threat level' garbage. Does anyone actually think for a second that the Government would even consider ever dropping that down to green (low). Does anyone really think it's meant to keep people more alert and aware, or just to scare people?
Water bottles on planes is another great one... How many scientist came out and said that the binary agents plan was ridiculously impractical, yet everyone blindly accepts the fact that a sealed bottle of water bought outside the terminal is a terrorist threat, but one bought inside isn't (have you ever noticed the 'inspection' that pallets of bottles for the retail stores in the terminals get (or more accurately don't get) when they pass through security?). I'm shocked that someone didn't try to ban underpants on planes after that clown tried to blow his junk off.
Could go on and on.
I honestly do think that most people have the critical thinking skills required to stop and question most of this idiocy. The biggest problem that I see is apathy. Noone gives a shit. Sure it's a pain that you can't take a water bottle on a plane, but so what, Joe average can't be assed kicking a stink up about it. Same goes for all the TBTF, bailouts, royal rogering from politicians, excessive spending and government waste - most people just can't be assed getting upset about it. I get upset about plenty, but when confronted by so much apathy have absolutely no idea what to do about it.
I find myself rooting for a bit of anarchy, a stock market crash, whatever, as hopefully that would give people the kick in the ass they need to get fired up.
I sure feel the same way you do - surrounded by such a complete violation of life. And I have no idea what to do about it either. I talk to my wife, she thinks I'm nuts. Talk to the shrink and he says "what are you going to do about it?" Realistically, what can I do about it?
My friend, while the shrink can provide invaluable help and insight to you, always remember that their primary purpose is to get you (happily) back on your hamster world.
From their point of view, those who do not conform to the world have a "problem". The world is the world/society and thus its basis is always "right". Even if they admit the world is "wrong" they still insist that you must learn to live (happily) among the insane. If you don't fit in well, you are "wrong". The Matrix is always assumed to be valid, thus anyone or anything that doesn't fit must be ill or broken or not coping well and thus must be helped and fixed so that they conform.
I do not consider it a sign of good mental health if one has assimilated or adjusted well into an insane world. This is not a sign of "good mental health" but rather of "good conditioning and indoctrination". Their job is to help you adjust to the insanity, not to help you become sane. There measure of sanity is simply what the majority dictates.
Yes, I understand they will argue otherwise. But the practical outcome is that this is what they do. Do not expect anything that is spawned by the Matrix to show you the way out of the Matrix. The way out is to look within.
And you know, he's almost convinced me to return to the "hamster world". But, I'm not quite there yet. And you are correct, it is a little difficult to argue with the shrink.
Here's the other problem. I've been trying to be my own man, to live up to my morals and my vision of the world. But, it's pretty lonely. No one wants to listen or really cares. I find some solace on ZH and Denninger but for the most part, I feel pretty alone going about my daily duties supporting my family.
Maybe I am a hamster after all.
CD - in all seriousness thanks for the comment. Made me feel a little more "sane".
That sound you hear is the black helicopters over your house -- really.
If you come here and tangle with CD and his wild animal friends and the other "crazies" at least you won't burden your wife or the shrink. The more you learn to see, the more you're gonna see...they can't take it, whereas we're actually interested. Know what I'm sayin' ZH = good ventage. Good luck to you :-)
What can you do? Obviously, it doesn't matter which way you vote, because it will make no difference whatsoever to how the world is run. So the answer to your shrink's question - what are you going to do about it? is: not a f*cking thing, at least - not directly.
Personally I think the only things we can do at this point in time, are to educate ourselves as best we can, and then talk to people, starting with our matrix-embedded friends. If you really know your subject - or even if you just know it a bit better than they do - they can start getting a glimpse of 'the matrix'. They'll argue like hell - they love the matrix! - but after a while some of them get a slight glow in their eyes, because most intelligent people know there's something profoundly wrong with the world, but they're so saturated by MSM bullshit it's almost impossible for them to make any headway into working out what it is. And they can see that you may have just given them one of the keys to start working it out.
I know this myself because up until a few years ago, I was one of them. And then the crisis hit, work slackened off, and I had the time to start really looking into how the world works. I'd always wondered about money... How could house prices just keep going up and up, disproportionate to everything else? Where was all this extra 'wealth' coming from? And why was there inflation in general, when humanity was getting more productive? How did WWII end the depression, when it involved the wholesale destruction of vast quantities of wealth? If you raise these questions with your friends, and then start giving them answers, you get their attention.
There's no point us talking about a revolution unless a sufficient number of people understand what's wrong. At this point of time, the average person is almost entirely loyal to TPTB. They wouldn't see it that way - they hate the bankers, and their stooge politicians - but they are dedicated to 'the system'. They don't realise it's the latter which produces, incentivises, and perpetuates the former.
Revolution? Our fellow men would just sell us down the river and help rebuild the matrix the very next day.
Education, education, education....
On the subject of your shrink... it may very well be that there are personal issues that he can help you with. He can't help you with the matrix because he probably can't even begin see it. But he is trained to see distortions and contradictions in his patients and if he's any good, he can help you eliminate them. He can't help you with the world, but he can help you with yourself. Speaking from experience, it'll be hard, painful, grinding work. But it'll be worth it. And seemingly coincidentally, you'll know what your path is relative to the matrix.
Maybe you'll write songs about it and sing them, and people will hear the truth in your words and start to think. Or maybe you'll run marathons carrying a placard that says 'End the Fed'. Maybe you'll become a central banker and then after many years of burrowing away, from your position of authority reveal the truth in a television conference. Whatever, your path will be authentic, and whether you succeed or not you'll be a success.
/rant
More on this. Anti-war.com reporting that the pentagon was warning people of the possible release of information while ackowledging that wikileaks had not released names and even offered to have the pentagon assist in vetting the material for information that may put lives at risk. The pentagon refused and demanded all material be returned to them.
If Wikileaks really did ask the Pentagon to cooperate, I am most pleased. (If the Pentagon refused, I am most displeased with them.)
More info is definitely better, but this kind of info needs to be handled with some care.
"Although U.S. officials still think the leaks could cause significant damage to U.S. security interests,.."
Yeah, since the US intelligence establishment has been almost completely privatized, with over 60% of the CIA, NSA and C.I.F.A. (if you don't know what the last one is, you simply haven't been keeping current with your intel agencies, dudes and dudettes!), and with the critters at Booz-Allen Hamilton and SAIC calling the shots, I have zero confidence with ANYONE being concerned about US security interests.
And, as anyone who has ever been involved with the American intel community realizes, NSA is about breaking all those commercial business codes first.......
I for one don't mind the leaks. I totally agree, the same line of garbage that they use to justify saving the banks, is used to try and stop these leaks.
Whose safety is the main concern in regards to these leaks? Certainly not the guys/gals on the ground. Right? I mean, if it were, they wouldn't be in harms way to begin with.
I wish somebody at the Federal Reserve would man-up and unload a ton of documents!
Now that I'd read!
you must never believe anything coming from government thats your civic duty :)
Surely there is a cap on the value of the secret military intelligence of a country that can't/won't win wars.
What do you suppose the street value is of Obama's secret central planning playbook?
Apparently it's $10.08, with free super saver shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Rules-Radicals-Saul-Alinsky/dp/0679721134
Hahaa! Slow and straight over the plate and knocked right out of the park....
Beautiful...grace and venom, deadly combination.
ORI
Ah yes, the heavy smell of troll really does bring out the Ninjas. :-0
Right - I'm being paid by Obama-bashers to disparage the rainbow and unicorn agenda. because otherwise the word would just never get out...
http://truthrss.com/2010/07/28/wikileaks-cointelpro/
CIA, Mossad behind Wikileaks.
How do you put out a fire? With a backfire of course.
You hide truth by telling many truths but at the same time, hiding the most important truth, a typical way these people do things.
they don't make enough tinfoil for the hat you need to buy that garbage.
If this was real, a certain person would be in jail with all his computers and papers confiscated due to some bogus evidence planted upon his person. The mere fact that the lamestream media and the pentaCon even pay any attention to this publicly should be a huge clue. Yet more smoke and mirrors as the banksters steal trillions...
An argument that meets the common sense standard pretty damn well.
wikileaks = inside job
in jail, or dead.
reality is like your avatar. Well said.
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What's that funky smell...?
Wikileaks is definitely CAIMossadMI5, hell I thought everyone realized that its so obvious. No wonder this country is so screwed, the people are more easily fooled than a toddler.
Actually, Wikileaks is attempting to discredit the MIC by waging a fake misinformation campaign ...
Why stop Occam's circular mind fuck at level 2?
This release I feel is going to be explosive and put increased pressure on our war in Afghanistan from the American populace. This concerns me because the U.S. may then have to resort to a "validating" event to realign the Snookites.
Anyway Julian you know the protocol..
Avoid small planes, interviews with Sascha Baron Cohen and most importantly Hot Tubs or in the case of Iceland natural hot springs.
Wow I didnt think people were actually fooled by this thinly veiled CIA chop shop known as Wikileaks. Now I see why such stupid things can happen such as the present sorry state of our nation, the people are wildly easy to fool.
Sheep I'm not to easy to fool for long. Must have all information before jumping to conclusions. A rational person must always be prepared to changed their mind when presented with a good argument factually based. I cannot see the us ever wanting to release that Apache video since it demoralized Anenerican sentiment and views toward the war.
So I ask you what is thr best evidence in your opinion that this leak is being orchestrated?
Assanges hillarious corralling attempts to get the people away from groups like A&E9-11 Truth and onto the 'real issues' such as Bin Laden and the need to expand these BS wars? This guy is a fraud in my book.
Wikileaks' website down since more than two weeks now!
http://wikileaks.org/
Maybe they got hit by Stuxnet2.
“I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” -Assange
wikileaks is bullshit, fails the 9/11 truth test.
Something stinks about Wikileaks!
http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/Geopolitics___Eurasia/WikiLeaks/wikileaks.html
Yea! Pay attention to our 'real' conspiracies not that '9-11 was an inside job' nonsense, our Wikileaks CIA disinfo chop shop conspiracy leaks for moron america are way better and you will obey them! We need to expand our wars! To catch Bin Laden and stuff! LMFAO...this country is so destroyed its just funny at this point.
Indeed. That is the litmus test ... and Assange fails it dismally.
Assange also fails on Bilderberg (though it is not as close to the snake's head as many make out).
Not necessarily. There are cognitive limits to what the public can accept without being repelled as programmed. To avoid the 9/11 topic seems to have been the strategy adopted by Justin Raimondo (antiwar.com), Alex Cockburn (counterpunch.com) and Assange (wikileaks.org). In the case of Assange, AFAIK, they have not had any documents relating to 9-11 published. It would be fool of him to expose himself without any undeniable proof. In any case, trust no one at face value, since we are in the Kali Yuga, but this tip may help when you yourself tell the truth:
The Creed of Emily, by Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)
Tell all the Truth but tell it slant -
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth's superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind -
You know, I think on this subject I'm with you, Shylockracy, and I've come to believe your point.
I do realize some decent people simply cannot accept the culpability of an elected or appointed American to be involved in such a heinous operation as 9/11; they've never served in the military in time of combat, they've a limited knowledge of real history, etc.
I've long been familiar with Assange as an aging hacker and hacktivist, so while I have much respect for Engdahl (his article was linked above), I'm with you on this one.
Whooosh, ZH Ninjas everywhere today. I feel strangely comforted LOL
+1
This is also why the high priest Noam Chomsky fails the test. In my opinion, 9/11 was/is THE acid test. It's also why it was THE EVENT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky
I have to disagree with you on this, although Chomsky fails on many points (9/11, believing the lone gunman theory for the JFK assassination, and some lies Chomsky has used to bolster his position in the past --- and I agree with Chomsky's overall sentiments, but if he was really truthful, and brave, he would no longer be a tenured prof at MIT).
The Thorstein Veblens -- those brilliant and brave souls -- always end up fired!
Help me out here because I made three statements. Do you disagree with me about this?
Or this?
Or this?
I agree totally. Chomsky is most definately a information door keeper. He goes part of the way, but he dares not go all the way.
Ivy league tool IMHO. Very very smart with all the common sense of a wet paper bag. Plus would shrivel up and die if for some reason he were no longer invited to the "right" cocktail parties.
In my opinion, 9/11 was/is THE acid test.
I think there are still many out there, evidently decent people, who want to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and that no small group of Americans could possibly be involved with 9/11.
I think some, not Chomsky, but Assange and perhaps Cockburn, are picking and choosing their battles.
Some like Taibbi either only display intelligence when it comes to Goldman Sachs' perfidy, or possibly only has a vendetta against them, as Taibbi appears snow blind when it comes to any number of other similar subjects.
True, I wish everyone thought independently as we do, but.....
Nice religion you have going there.
Allahu Akbar!
Wikileaks is nothing more than a branch of the CIA. A distraction from the truth.
Yep, it is psy ops. It appears from reading some of the comments that I am not the only one who thinks this operation is suspicious. If this man who started this , was so dangerous, do you think he would be walking around talking? Hardly. Let us not forget. Obama signed a executive order that allows him to sanction "hits" whenever he feels compelled....
Hmm. It appears I am in disagreement with most readers here in that I do not believe this is psyops although in sure the CIA would love for that perception since it decreases validitity of releases. Could be spin control.
I will admit this..I find it difficult to believe that if they did want Assange either imprisoned or suicided it would likely have been done so at this point.
I suppose we will have to wait and see what Is released. If it drawing a path to a new war/ enemy to distract the growing public anger and confusion that I suppose anything is possible.
Yeah, but it would be awfully suspicious if something did happen to him.
I like your wait-and-see position, but think that the matter of what would happen to Assange if he did obtain anything significant is pretty obvious.
Does that mean it's a CIA front? I can't see that taking that jump is necessary. Maybe the guy is truly sincere . . . but I am unable to imagine TPTB allowing release of anything of indisputably major impact.
Alternatively, let's say that all is as it appears. Surely everything the guy--and anybody remotely connected with him--does online and anywhere else is carefully monitored and evaluated. There's no way he could drop a big surprise on anybody. It would all be, by one means or another, disappeared.
Intentionally or not, it has to be a massive dog and pony show.
Nah, those are just the loud guys, John. Demand reasons to believe, not just that they fail someone's ideological purity test.
"I find it difficult to believe that if they did want Assange either imprisoned or suicided it would likely have been done so at this point."
If you familiarize yourself, or are familiar, with SOP you'd realize it is almost always (exceptions: JFK, Rev. Martin Luther King and RFK) those in the lower profile who get maxed, offed, or whatever the vernacular is today.
Assange has too much visibility now, and the damage has been done and the 'leaks are set up to go forward even if he's out of the picture.
I believe Assange to be the real deal, although I could be wrong, I doubt it.
Why? Because I'm familiar with how they came about their data, as anyone in the hacker community is.
It was a corrupt screw-up by the Pentagon, with one of their neocon PAC types, which allowed the Chinese Ghostnet access, which Assange and the 'leaks crew took advantage of.
I'm with you. Go get 'em.
Assange is somewhat protected by Internet culture; the TPTB are quite afraid of what can happen in viral media. They might get him in the end, but only if they can make it look like an accident. Though as it is, even an accident will spark an online riot at this point. They can't really chance it this close to elections.
Walking a wire here. My sense is, TPTB find themselves in a tight corner. They are most dangerous just then, but likewise most easily contained. If only for a little while.
We only need a little while.
You may be totally right. But my sense, whenever wikileaks is in the news, is that nobody is really familiar/interested in it. Even when that last video was released, I don't know too many people who viewed it. If it were real, would it matter? Would the general population really go out of their way to view it? MSM won't cover anything of importance. We know that.
What ever happened to the military personnel who supposedly was feeding these docs to wikileaks?
Please read my comment above.