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Wisconsin Farce Ending: AWOL Democrats Scramble Back After Republican Senate Finds Loophole To Pass Controversial Bill

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Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:02 | 1034904 hannah
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why is god doing this to us.....why.....?

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:31 | 1034989 JR
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God is a Republican…?

There’s always the cry for raised taxes to keep necessary services intact in the public sector. 

No greater example can be found than a phrase found in the lawsuit against Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s temporary few days' furlough policy for California public employees (SEIU) to help with the budget crisis.  The 2010 complaint laments “the governor’s unreasonable insistence to avoid tax increases to pay the judgment and to keep the state services intact.”

San Francisco Chronicle columnist Debra J. Saunders this week writes: “Apparently the ticket to economic equality is for Americans to ignore the heavy load of debt that taxpayers much shoulder because politicians have handed out benefits and pensions to public workers regardless of the cost…

“The new message: A government can’t really be broke because politicians have the power to raise taxes.”

The private sector model for salary and benefits is for the employer to define the position in terms of the available salaries and benefits and the applicant has the option of accepting the conditions or not and can, if he wishes, apply for a job elsewhere.  It’s unusual in a real world that public employees define the working hours, the job conditions and qualifications, the salary and benefits and if not acceptable to the employer, they then go to binding arbitration to overrule the employer, i.e., the taxpayers.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:43 | 1035037 downwiththebanks
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God ran Iran-Contra.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:08 | 1035146 jeff montanye
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you know he did; 9-11 and the subsequent commission too.  but it only took republicans to run democrats out of texas and wisconsin.  why is it that they think this makes good political theater, running from a battle?  this is getting to be a habit: impeachment off the table, bush foreign, financial, military policies adopted (after much fulminating about them under bush).  it takes at least two functioning parties to have much of a party based democracy.  imo the real battles of the next few years will be fought internally in the republican party.  the dems are done.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:19 | 1035205 hannah
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...because democrates are wussies. they are girly men, emasculated she-males who cant make a decision for themselves.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:26 | 1035227 downwiththebanks
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Their JOB is losing.  

The Washington Generals of politricks.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 01:11 | 1035621 JW n FL
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Thank!! God!!!

 

The Unions in Wisconsin are almost Dead!

 

All of our problems are solved!!

 

This event will stop the Bankers from Robbing the Country Blind of Trillions of Dollars a year!!!

 

When the house is being robbed, it is not a good time to Paint Abortion Signs or Union Bust.. we should be dealing with the larger problems at hand..

 

Ahhhhhh.. never mind.. Unions, Danzig Wiff Da Starz and / or Jerry Springer... its all the same thing.

 

Broker Union Workers in Wisconsin are NOT! the Problem.. Trillions of Dollars and Bank Bonuses that could have paid for the Union plus! Plus!! PLUS!!! thats the fucking problem people!

 

Wake the FUCK! UP!! PEOPLE!!!

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 06:59 | 1035982 John Wilmot
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No one is suggesting that public sector unions are the only or the largest cause of the nation's problems. It is a major, if not the largest, cause of the state governments' budget problems. But regardless of magnitude, it is a problem that needs to be solved.

And don't scream at me about bankers, I'm fully aware of the financial oligarchy which controls this nation. That is another problem, let's solve that one too.

Can't you walk and chew gum at the same time?

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 09:46 | 1036193 Calmyourself
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+1    We had better start attacking our fiscal issues on multiple levels, although I echo JW's call to go after bankers, MERS, fraudulent mortgage securitization etc as soon as possible.  The reining in of government and it's bloodsucking public unions is an important part of the puzzle.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 13:31 | 1036901 Carl Spackler
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+1  Teach thy brain to "multi-think."

The overall problem is more complex than just a picking "bankster" scapegoat. (while it is part of the overall problem, it is just a facet).

Another facet is in the process of being unwound...loss of taxpayer sovereignty leading to excessive borrowing and sovereign budget problems brought about civil workforce exercise of monopoly privileges.

 

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 10:07 | 1036277 MiddleMeThis
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15 sleeping sheeple must have junked you because you disturbed their American fantasy.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 06:50 | 1035979 John Wilmot
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"The private sector model for salary and benefits is for the employer to define the position in terms of the available salaries and benefits and the applicant has the option of accepting the conditions or not and can, if he wishes, apply for a job elsewhere.  It’s unusual in a real world that public employees define the working hours, the job conditions and qualifications, the salary and benefits and if not acceptable to the employer, they then go to binding arbitration to overrule the employer, i.e., the taxpayers"

Exactly. These 'unions' are not free associations, they are government-sponsored entities with special legal privilages, not unlike Medieval guilds. In a free market system, people could organize themselves as they please through free association, cooperate in striking to achieve better conditions, etc. They would NOT be able to force their counterparts to accept contracts against their will. Employment is a contract, like any other, and a contract is invalid unless both parties agree to its terms voluntarily and without having been coerced.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:38 | 1035018 homersimpson
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Um.. simple. It's because the clueless 'Crats in Wisconsin can't balance a checkbook.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 01:13 | 1035627 JW n FL
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Go eat a large caliber bullet you fucking idiot.. whats the difference between the whores? Bankers own one and Unions own another? looks like the Bankers Lobby is winning!

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 01:41 | 1035699 Tapeworm
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Are you saying that we taxcows of Wisconsin must get reamed by the public employee unions because the banksters are doing it too?

 In the commie capital city there are six bus drivers that collect over 100k/annum with on over 150k.

 Check the union rules in any taxing district to see the looting of the sheeple.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 02:49 | 1035799 JW n FL
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Are you saying that we taxcows of Wisconsin must get reamed by the public employee unions because the banksters are doing it too?

 In the commie capital city there are six bus drivers that collect over 100k/annum with on over 150k.

 Check the union rules in any taxing district to see the looting of the sheeple.

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Anger as JP Morgan bankers get $10bn pay and bonus pot

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jan/14/jp-morgan-bankers-share-10bn

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I am saying that JP Morgans Bonus Checks could float your entire state for years, including the Unions monies.

You think the Union is expensive? really? are you sure thats the Problem? I know you dumb fucks in Wisconsin marry your sister and stuff.. but it really is simple math that I am asking you to do, even a genetic defect can add and subtract.. or so I would hope!

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 02:52 | 1035804 Hacksaw
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JW, JW, you can't explain anything to these morons. They all think if they break up the unions that their taxes are going to go down. Go figure. They think that because Beck and Rush told them so. Bwahahahah

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 07:55 | 1036027 SunSword
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You are being illogical. Essentially you are arguing that they cannot solve one problem while another separate problem exists. This is false. Furthermore this is a state issue, involving state workers, being dealt with by a state government. The Bankster problem is a separate national issue. Yes it must be dealt with but the two problems must be resolved separately. Wisconsin is dealing with the one they can handle on their own. Your criticism is childish and unwarranted.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 08:56 | 1036120 DispenzPez
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+1...logic inherently dictates separate solutions.  Besides aren't banksters and the unions acting in unison with a bilking-end-game and therefore at least parallel vs incongruent? Not-so-strange bedfellows.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 13:13 | 1036853 JW n FL
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How many in Wisconsin were out in the Street with signs against the Bankers Bonus Monies?

and I am illogical? are you sure?

so the really big number?? gets a pass?? but the Union?? get all this media fan fare??

You all must be right, it is just me being concerned with the larger problem.. that is being completely fucking ignored and played down..

My bad, Carry on.. at least a few more months before you will be forced to think about it..

All is well, food stamps for all!!! Banker Bonuses, just for the few.. Sorry.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 00:04 | 1035392 10kby2k
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because we are weak

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 09:37 | 1036174 GeorgeHayduke
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REAL Austeritybegins when the self-righteous "decision makers" cut their own pay, benefits and perks. At that point we may see some improvement in this country. However, don't count on the hypocrites, of which the Rethuglicans are the biggest, to impose such austerity on themselves. As usual, it's only for those other people.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:09 | 1034905 bob_dabolina
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I love this.

The people of Wisconsin voted for reps. to govern them.

The democrats of Wisconsin leave the state to avoid voting and by extension preventing an elected body to govern ultimately shutting down a State government.

The democrats accuse the repubs of acting outside the realm of democracy.

Someone explain this to me...

Tyler commonly uses the word: surreal

Charlie Sheen would call it: collective winning

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:25 | 1034970 Misean
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Collective winning!

FTW!

ROFL!

+a few trillion benny bucks

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:33 | 1034992 Michael
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The 24/7 infomercial for the Democrats also known as MSNBC are having a hissy fit.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:55 | 1035069 bob_dabolina
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I can't watch MSNBC

Menstrating Sniveling Neurotic Bitches Crapping

...except Dylan he's legit

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:04 | 1035126 lawrence1
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Right, you cant handle people exposing lies and distortions... demands too much attention... doesnt fit to what you want to believe. Yeah, just stay on Fox News.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:10 | 1035167 jeff montanye
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msnbc and fox both suck (or so i'm told; i don't watch because i believe lots of things i'm told).

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:13 | 1035173 Michael
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The 24/7 infomercial for the Republicans also known as FOX are planning their third war on Libya.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 09:14 | 1036148 Gene Parmesan
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Hillary and Kerry are on Fox? The hypocrites on the left are leading the charge here.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:14 | 1035185 bob_dabolina
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uhm...I don't watch fox news, or cnn, or msnbc.

Not sure where you got that from.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:23 | 1035219 Michael
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The 24/7 infomercial for the Globalists also known as CNN are also in on brainwashing the sheeple.

Unless you have tiger blood, I suggest you do not view them at all.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 00:46 | 1035565 Spalding_Smailes
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Nice triple play, lol'

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 02:26 | 1035773 andy55
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yeah, lol on all 3 bro

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 07:22 | 1035994 Sathington Willougby
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CNN, NBC, FOX etc

THREETARDS

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:45 | 1035308 ronin12
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Maddow was in full panic mode as if she lost her favorite vibrator.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 00:26 | 1035497 lawrence1
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She's far too smart, too far above you that you can only disparage her sexual orientation. You poor, stupid shit.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 00:35 | 1035530 Sheriff Douchen...
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Looks like lawrence1 having an msnbc style hissy fit also...bad night?

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 01:00 | 1035601 Creed
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+1

MSNBC is over the top propaganda. 

 

It's hard to believe anyone would buy into it. 

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 06:25 | 1035970 TBT or not TBT
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Going out on a limb here, but a woman's preference for a vibrator versus other mechanical means of masturbating, has everything to do with the fact that she's anatomically female.    Her "sexual orientation" does not change the nature of her junk, and therefore doesn't change what mechanical means might best stimulate it.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 07:19 | 1035993 nmewn
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Man...I could have a "ball" with the whole sexual orientation thingy where one forgoes the real for a fake...but it's early and I haven't eaten yet...LOL.

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 09:49 | 1036210 Calmyourself
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Larry, no one on MSNBC is so smart that you need to debase yourself like that..  Well, maybe you do..

Thu, 03/10/2011 - 16:19 | 1037740 JamesYoung
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All for-profit media is corrupt at its core and not worth saving.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:02 | 1034906 Instant Karma
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Awesome! No Quorum required for non-monetary portion of bill! Now you union thugs, pay your fair share for your benefits!

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:19 | 1034960 downwiththebanks
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Pathetic, Wall Street lackey.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:31 | 1034990 Instant Karma
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I work in the private sector in Michigan. I pay a lot for health care benefits. I have no pension, and no matching 401K contribution from my employer.

Stop raping the few tax payers left, union thugs!

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:37 | 1035014 Michael
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See, See, Everyone see this guy here. They do exist. I here in secret 75% of the working people are like this guy instant whatever.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:45 | 1035026 downwiththebanks
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And you're still a Wall Street lackey.  That's even more sad.

Yours is an argument for improving the wages of those working in the private sector, not assaulting those in the public sector.  The fact that 6% of the private sector is unionized goes a long way to explaining why they've gotten fucked over so badly.  It's not the fault of those who are in unions that those who aren't get fucked over by Capitalists, whose profit margins continue to soar year after year.  Hell, those in unions are getting fucked, too.

But there's no tax on derivatives.  Whew!

IT'S THE CAPITALISTS FAULT!  Why let these rat-bastards - the absolute scum of the universe - divide and conquer the 99.9% of the population they're robbing daily.  Why should the people who do the work get fucked over more and more egregiously, while the banker-gangsters loot the whole population blind?

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 22:53 | 1035076 Michael
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Actually, this brings the people together. The 12% of government workers who made twice as much are now going to be more even with the other 88% of non government workers, so we are more equal to each other financially. We should get together and go after the Federal Reserve Corporation who caused this mess.

Wed, 03/09/2011 - 23:26 | 1035235 downwiththebanks
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What creates solidarity more than backstabbing scabs?

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