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World FX Heatmap: Dollar Bloodbath

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Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:43 | 580585 newstreet
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I'm short Euros.


Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:50 | 580603 explodinghead
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I was short eurs...ouch

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:02 | 580634 firstdivision
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Why did you not use the Goldman recommendation as contrarian? 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:25 | 580708 Azannoth
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I get paid in euros but the minute i see the transfer I go buy gold

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:47 | 580586 Turd Ferguson
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TD: Answer thyself.


Re the $, now that the USDX has rolled over and is thru 82, its clearly headed to 80. However, the chart looks so shitty I'm thinking it's heading back to the lows of last December.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:49 | 580598 HelluvaEngineer
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OK, hyperinflationistas, please answer: if the world accepts that hyperinflation is GONNA happen, what will the initial and long term reaction of the stock market be?  Will it just ramp to 36,000, or crash first (and is there any historical precedent for any of this)?

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:54 | 580614 Turd Ferguson
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Man, I have no idea. Can make a case for both a 30000 Dow and a 3000 Dow.

Therefore, the only stocks I own are junior miners.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:04 | 580643 Theta_Burn
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JAG a steal at these prices

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:17 | 580682 Turd Ferguson
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maybe but that's a shitty looking chart

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:59 | 580626 What_Me_Worry
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As a card carrying hyperinflationista, I am not blinded by absolute values in the market as the yardstick of the effect of debasing.  All the numbers will be the same once things spiral.  $100 will be almost the same value as $1000 and $10000.

I have monopoly money here at home and the $1 note and the $500 note have the same value to me, in relationship to buying real assets I need in the world.  Only in the contained monopoly board are those notes looked at any differently when purchasing assets.

There will be a new currency created, anyways.  Virtually every government suffering from hyperinflation usually attempts to create a new(flawed) currency before accepting reality.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:59 | 580628 Ragnarok
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Marc Faber addressed this and used Mexico as an allegory.  At best you break even with (hyper)inflation.



Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:00 | 580631 SWRichmond
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Real asset stocks would probably soar, while stocks of companies that sell two pounds of shit in a one pound bag (phones) will probably tumble.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:05 | 580646 EscapeKey
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Infrastructure, utilities, grocers... all equities representing essentials I would have thought would weather the storm in an acceptable way.

But pointless lucury consumer electronic makers, retail chains selling overpriced coffee, and other non-essentials would probably be lucky not to go to zero.


Tue, 09/14/2010 - 21:43 | 582213 Melson Nandela
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SBUX is probably a nice short with Coffee rockn' on..

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:07 | 580654 HarryWanger
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Inflation pulls the markets higher. This has been the theory for the past couple of years. Yes, your money is worth less but you'll have more of it by buying stocks in an inflationary environment. Better than trying to short, lose money AND have inflation bite you even harder.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:10 | 580662 firstdivision
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I believe we are approaching a hyper-stagflationary environment.  I have been proclaiming this for awhile now myself to friends.  Look to the 70's for our future. 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:31 | 580727 r50fHBWjzxE2
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On the long run inflation will kill everything. If this would be any different, the US would be in much better shape today. The way the dollar was inflated since the FED has been founded is unprecedented and will lead to the complete abolishment of the dollar as the world reserve currency. Whether this is happening tomorrow or in 30 years time is everybody's guess.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:21 | 581111 geminiRX
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I think we will have both inflation and deflation. Assets like houses, cars, appliances will be sucked into a deflationary environment whereas things such as food, oil, power, natural gas will succomb to inflationary pressures. Double trouble

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:36 | 580752 SteveNYC
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By definition, if the world has ACCEPTED hyperinflation happening, the dollar would already be worthless, no?

There are so many ways this horrific clusterfuck Central Bank controlled Frankenstein could play out....

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:38 | 580761 SteveNYC
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By definition, if the world has ACCEPTED hyperinflation happening, the dollar would already be worthless, no?

There are so many ways this horrific clusterfuck Central Bank controlled Frankenstein could play out....

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 12:14 | 580866 worldlymrb
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DOW will be at 100K and a one oz of gold will be $100K for a 1 to 1 ratio.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 15:10 | 581415 Yardfarmer
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our savant at Fort Dix, Martin Armstrong, has DOW at 36,000 before ultimate meltdown

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:49 | 580599 Spartan
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And with Oil pushing back to $80/bbl the Fed's anti-stimulus just keeps taking...what exactly is the plan here?

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:50 | 580602 HelluvaEngineer
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1.) print money 2.) buy everything 3.) profit

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:54 | 580616 mikla
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Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:52 | 580608 PierreLegrand
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Gold Bitchez!!!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:54 | 580610 HelluvaEngineer
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Also: odd - the party is not being extended to the financials today.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:58 | 580623 AccreditedEYE
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They NEED to pull back here to set up for the next attempt at a ramp higher. They've been running up in a straight line all month.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:59 | 580629 HelluvaEngineer
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The S&P also needs to move up just a little bit more to touch the strong resistance overhead.  Hopefully this will coincide with complete buying exhaustion.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:00 | 580633 sethco
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They had a party yesterday. slight hangover. a couple lines of FED coke at lunch and all's well...

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:54 | 580611 reading
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Very bizarre action today...and that is saying something given how the "markets" have been acting lately.  This whole thing really has a bizarre feel to it.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:05 | 580635 AccreditedEYE
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we should stay "contained" at 2300 Naz, 1130 S&P... at least till the impending QE2 moment.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:12 | 580666 iota
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Tue, 09/14/2010 - 22:07 | 582260 Melson Nandela
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I still can't get my head around TLT and GLD spiking at the same time. Someone is very, very wrong, and I'm waiting to take the short side against that lucky indiv.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 10:57 | 580622 HEHEHE
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Is there anything that MS has been right about in the past that would make anything they say believable.  Stephen Roach is the only guy at the whole place who has any credibility.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:02 | 580641 firstdivision
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WTF is going on with the AUDJPY?

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:16 | 580681 qussl3
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AUDJPY's got nothing the AUDUSD, the daily chart is going parabolic, pretty crazy.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:10 | 580661 Ripped Chunk
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Are we still looking to traditional market statistics and metrics to guide in a market that has been so totally manipulated by govt' and central bank manipulations? 

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:12 | 580668 plocequ1
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Ain't gonna work. The market will resume it's path to 36,000. I do admire Tylers persistence, But you can't fight the primal forces of nature. Ask Arthur Jensen. He'll tell you. Watch Network.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:16 | 580677 trav7777
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The currencies I normally watch revolve around the BRL.  I check the POG in BRL usually, sometimes in EUR and JPY just to get a sense of how "benchmarked" it is, because some of the emerging market currencies aren't being used to provide liquidity or mop up toxic debt.  The major CBs are active in the marketplace.

What I see is sustained gold momentum in all currencies.  I'm not seeing any weakness in paper that the dollar has traded down against.  We got 976 EUR, 105k JPY, 2156 BRL...these are all spitting distance from recent highs.

Meanwhile the AUD has shot back to .94, the CAD at .97, BRL at 1.7, but of yet no real crash in the POG in those currencies as a result of DXY weakness.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:35 | 580745 Pool Shark
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I'm as much a gold bug as anyone here, but I don't consider 976 EUR to be "spitting distance" of the 1040+ EUR high from June. That's more than $82 USD below the previous high.


I guess it just shows that the gold bull still has a ways to go.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:23 | 580702 tony bonn
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-1.62 in one day on the usd....i think john williams may have been a tad too conservative on the 6-9 months hyperinflation....even so, it will arrive...

if it destroys the bankster class, then bring it on, but i fear that it has designed it for its own evil ends....

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 12:22 | 580903 MachoMan
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we need some form of collective to keep them at bay...  difficult tight rope...  collusion never works in the end...  and our solidarity gets captured for a meager price.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 11:30 | 580730 three chord sloth
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The price finding function of all markets is broken. Too many manipulations and manipulators, too many rumors and chaff mixed in amongst the facts, too many cotton candy stats from too many clown car governments. It's all just throwing darts now.

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 12:00 | 580828 proLiberty
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When all the central banks on earth each issue fiat money, the meta-risk is co-inflation.  When each bank inflates at roughly the same rate, the FX cross should not change very much, but the price level in nominal currency units will rise in all currencies.   Beyond co-inflation is a coordinated failure of fiat money in general, where there is no printing press of last resort.  

That is why having various precious metals (gold, silver, brass, lead) is a requirement.  And also other dual use items?   Dual use: 1) personal utility;   2) appeal to others as barter.  For example, apart from food and fuel, how much will generic viagra pills be worth in a pinch in the neighborhood swapfest?



Tue, 09/14/2010 - 12:57 | 581010 Strongbad
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Gold, silver, platinum, Swiss Franc, and Euro are all kicking butt today against the US dollar!

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 13:12 | 581070 americanspirit
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Let's keep in mind the classic relationship between (1) value in use compared with (2) value in exchange. Both are important. Stay balanced.


Tue, 09/14/2010 - 14:50 | 581363 Bankster T Cubed
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The central banks are all completely illegitimate cancers on the world economy

they all suck shit

and they do so deliberately

in order to help their master globalist banker douchebags steal the wealth of the world

Tue, 09/14/2010 - 16:01 | 581536 rhyzimmer02
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I guess that means deflation is off the table bitchez

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