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Yen Euro Carry Trade Collapsing, Pushing DXY Higher, Stock To Follow (Inversely)?

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The Yen-Euro trade just took a sharp turn lower, pushing the DXY higher. Stocks, as usual, are caught in a vortex of vacuum tubes and chasing the VXV in a circular logic argument. Give them some time to catch up.

 

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Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:11 | 77340 Cognitive Dissonance
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I am so tired of "waiting" for the reversal. How stupid am I to think I can fight the Fed?

On another note, I wonder how many people on this blog even know what a vacuum tube is?

I was a TV repairman in the early 70's just when they were being phased out of new TVs. For anyone 30 or under, they probably have never even seen one in real life and barely understand the reference.

I love it, which shows you that I'm rapidly becoming over the hill.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:14 | 77353 docj
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Actually, the federal government - via the FAA - is still a pretty hefty consumer of vacuum tubes.

Figures, right?

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:16 | 77357 chumbawamba
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Vacuum tubes have advantages over modern ICs that will only become evident after the first EMP blast.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:19 | 77361 Anonymous
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Epic !

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:22 | 77369 texpat
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My tube amp also functions as the worlds most expensive night light.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:34 | 77382 glenlloyd
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...and space heater too...don't forget that!

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 14:51 | 77545 rr_
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But does it go to eleven?

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:27 | 77374 Anonymous
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Everybody knows that a vacuum tube is what you use to connect the vacuum crevice tool to the vacuum hose, when you want to reach the dust bunnies under the couch.

;-)

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 14:16 | 77464 Cognitive Dissonance
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Are those dust bunnies related to the money bunnies on CNBC?

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:15 | 77356 ptoemmes
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I've held a few in hand back in the day

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_tube

For many who didn't they can simply look at themselves in the mirror.

Pete

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:20 | 77366 Anonymous
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I like my vacuum tubes in my audio equipment..can't beat'em!

;)

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:47 | 77397 Anonymous
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Plenty of guitarists are quite aware of vacuum tubes (e.g., EL34's, 12AX7's, 6550's, 6L6's, etcetera, etcetera).

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:50 | 77402 Anonymous
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i remember when cheap department stores had
vacuum tube test machines setup near checkout
so that you could determine which of your 100 tubes
needed to be replaced.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:10 | 77422 George the baby...
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Any decent guitarist will have a tube amp.  

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:25 | 77443 deadhead
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definitely true.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:14 | 77423 Comrade de Chaos
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to Cognitive Dissonance

 

I think those are still used in chem instrumentation (photomultiplier tube) however they are increasingly substituted by diodes /semiconductor arrays.

See some of us 30 something do (actually did) know.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:08 | 77342 Carina
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Go team! My patience is running thin.... Tired of the pump, waiting impatiently for the equities dump.  With quarter end approaching, I'd think we'd see some action by Friday with funds locking in gains.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:56 | 77407 Anonymous
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From some captured emails, October 12th is the acceleration point for the dump.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 14:08 | 77458 AndItsGone
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Really? My alien brain fax says September 29th at 10:44 AM.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:09 | 77346 mule65
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Buy the dip after the morning 0.4% selloff!?

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:43 | 77392 Icarus
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Mindblowing eh? Given the same "miss the boat" mentality, the S&P is pretty close to following the same blowoff and collapse that occured in the Shanghai Composite in August.

The S&P has already broken above the rising wedge started in March, I suspect we are 1 all-in day before everyone realizes what they've done.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:10 | 77348 AnonymousMonetarist
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Have we ever has an epic rally into the Autumnal Equinox that didn't reverse shortly thereafter?

Just askin.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:14 | 77354 Carina
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Buying the dips at this point is a dangerous game of chicken IMO, although I'm playing one myself. Long 30-yr treasury options, long dollar options, short silver options.  I'm not blinking until mid-October.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:15 | 77355 phaesed
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Yes we have AnonMonet, 2007, it reversed, but not shortly. Lots of cycles coming up though, 80 years since the 1929 crash, 90 year cycle for the 1919 crash, 100 year for the 1909 crash....

 

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:14 | 77425 AnonymousMonetarist
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If I recall correctly within a few weeks an epic reversal started... not immediately on the spot though...

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:20 | 77365 Bearish Spirits
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Every day we have "weak" or "indecisive" early movement, talk of mergers and buyouts miraculously appears. 

Yesterday it was PG and CLX, which they apparently waited until the close to put to rest.  Today it's MSFT and ERTS.  I don't even have to mention the buyouts over the past couple months when the futures have been down.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:27 | 77375 Gloomy
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In what some experts think may be a harbinger of things to come this fall, officials of Dell Children's Medical Center in Austin have set up tents outside the hospital to accommodate the crush of patients flooding the emergency room with symptoms of the pandemic H1N1 virus, according to the Austin American-Statesman.

 

The two tents, which can accommodate eight to 16 beds apiece, were to be air-conditioned today.

According to the article, the hospital was on pace for an all-time record high in patients on Monday with 200 appearing before 3 p.m. That hour usually marks the beginning of the hospital's busy period because it is when school lets out. On Sunday, 343 patients swamped the emergency room. About 10 to 15 of the ER nurses are also out sick with influenza-like illness.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2009/09/swine-flu-things-get-tents-in-austin.html

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:16 | 77430 Anonymous
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Police and Military Train To Intern Swine Flu Vaccine "Refusniks"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15272

Look out!

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:30 | 77379 Anonymous
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How great is this: Headline directly contradicts the ticker. WTF?

CIT Up on Heavy Volume
By Dan Freed 09/23/09 - 11:39 AM EDT
Stock quotes in this article: CIT , MBI , ABK , BAC , WFC , GE
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NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- CIT Group (CIT Quote) sold off sharply Wednesday in heavy trading, after a big run up Tuesday.
Shares were down nearly 9% to $1.67 just over an hour after the open. Volume of 53 million shares in late morning trading was on pace to exceed the three-month average of 87 million shares. Shares of MBIA (MBI Quote) and Ambac (ABK Quote), two other troubled financial companies that saw big rallies Tuesday, were also down by more than 3% each.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:35 | 77383 Manfred
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excellent image over at evil.speculator

 

http://evilspeculator.com/?p=11158

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:37 | 77384 Whizbang
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Any idea why the dollar bounced? Is this have anything to do with the germans getting pissed at us for destroying the dollar and driving up the euro? Would they cause this reversal of the yen-euro, or did the fed just decide that the dollar can't actually drop below 76?

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:51 | 77404 D.O.D.
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yes

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:59 | 77412 Anonymous
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A .17% move is a bounce? I have to squint real hard at a 3 day chart to even see it. Some reversal.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 14:09 | 77459 Whizbang
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considering the drop below 76 this morning, I was looking for a very pronounced move downward. But it bounced back up above 76, which I certainly did not predict.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 15:11 | 77581 Anonymous
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and it dropped below 76 again this afternoon...
let's see how many times it jumps back and forth....

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:43 | 77393 Anonymous
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All a good setup for the Fed announcement. It is Fed day. After the annoucement - Bond Up, Stocks Up, Commodities Up, FX up. Dollar? D is for Down.
ReturnFreeRisk

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:47 | 77396 Leo Kolivakis
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From a buddy of mine that trades currencies:

"It is not collapsing, it dropped 30 pips (need 100 plus point drop to make that remark) on comments that France is concerned with the level of the euro, it has subsequently recouped the drop."

 

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:50 | 77400 Carina
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Can't wait to see auction results.  I have a feeling the auction will go over well and that will be supportive of the dollar.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:54 | 77406 TraderMark
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Short video from bubble TV this morning

 

Larry Levin (and I quote)

"The fundamentals are a joke... "

http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2009/09/larry-levin-fundamentals-pshaw.html

Rick Santelli and Larry in 1 segment, the only 5 minutes worth watching for the day

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 12:57 | 77410 Anonymous
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If the dollar drops much below ~76 DXY, it begins to back some other nations into a deflationary corner out of which they cannot maneuver with the usual central bank counteractions. Not that it can't proceed lower still, but it is a bit of a bond rebellion point, and it will become only more pronounced the further it goes.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:07 | 77420 Carina
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hmmm... bit of a sloppy auction.  Looks like a 3 pt tail. Sigh.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:14 | 77427 Anonymous
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I love the smell of napalm in the afternoon...

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:13 | 77424 Anonymous
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I am still surprised to see people thinking that the market will tank soon. It is imposible for me to see that as happening soon. Most people who post here are of the idea that Wall St. controll the goverment. And since a market collapse so soon and only 6 months after the rally would demolish people confidence for good(at least those who have short memory and don't remeber the 2000). And since that would probably take out the gold pot from Wall St.(the retirement funds)for ever and for good, then logic implies that they would not let that happen at any cost since trillions of tax payers money is available to them through the FED.Absent any big time catalyst,I don't see any market implosion before 2-4 years at least,or whenever Blankefein's(or the next GS head)bonus goes beneath the 50 mil threshold,whichever comes first....

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:24 | 77442 orca
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1. Almost all day discrepancy EUR/USD and futs. In the end reversed forcibly , now again discrepancy. Was a nice trade.
2. Master alpha, ie the big boys, was pushed up on very low volume. Unloading came with heavy volume, which is good, when it does eventueally go down they will help make it a crater.
3. However, they still managed to hold the line and vol did not spike at all, just above yesterday's level and that was a yearlow here.

Now waiting for uncle Ben and his green shoot singalong. Hoping for 1076 for short. All shorts here are within callspreads, fyi.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 13:25 | 77444 orca
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My comments vanished, so here it goes again.

Some observation from the European front.
1. Almost all day discrepancy EUR/USD and futs. In the end reversed forcibly , now again discrepancy. Was a nice trade.
2. Master alpha, ie the big boys, was pushed up on very low volume. Unloading came with heavy volume, which is good, when it does eventueally go down they will help make it a crater.
3. However, they still managed to hold the line and vol did not spike at all, just above yesterday's level and that was a yearlow here.

Now waiting for uncle Ben and his green shoot singalong. Hoping for 1076 for short. All shorts here are within callspreads, fyi.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 14:35 | 77505 Gunther
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"Yen Euro Carry Trade collapsing"
Sorry, I do not see it. After reading the headline I expected a move of a few percent in the cross-rate. At 2:21 the Yen is up 0.13% and the candle does not look big either. To me that move is simple noise.

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