You Don't Mess With The LBMA - Assassination Attempt On Silver Market Manipulation Whistleblower?

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Sat, 03/27/2010 - 21:00 | 278351 lawton
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Hopefully the guy who hired him will give up some names but maybe the bankers already have all scenarios covered. Guess they wanted to get him before he made the rounds on some TV networks...

Sat, 03/27/2010 - 22:50 | 278407 perchprism
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That's what it sounds like to me.  Take him out of circulation for awhile and let the heat dissipate.  At the same time it delivers a bit of a personal message.  Strong move by the bad guys.

Sat, 03/27/2010 - 22:56 | 278412 strike for retu...
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Truth-seekers and whistleblowers are always heroes.

Whether this was an accident or something more sinister, the Maguires will be in my prayers.

www.ae911truth.org

Truth always prevails in the end.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 00:06 | 278471 hungrydweller
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Whatever.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 00:17 | 278490 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Whatever is right! Wait...whatever what? 9/11? Here I go again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 06:45 | 278574 Cognitive Dissonance
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Yup, looks like your normal 47 story building collapsing in 7 seconds from minor fire and smoke damage, after which no mainstream media outlet is willing to discuss that it ever happened, let alone how it happened.

After viewing that video, a person has three choices. Crawl even deeper into your denial or start asking questions. Or troll the boards as an operative of the machine dismissing anyone who is asking questions as crazy.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 09:41 | 278616 Internet Tough Guy
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You troofers have two choices; crawl deeper into your psychosis or get medicated. Now carry on searching for Obama's 'real' birth certificate.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 09:53 | 278620 taraxias
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Wow, you are one hell of a tough guy. Does the CIA pay you with a cheque or direct deposit now days? Just wondering.......

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 10:28 | 278632 Internet Tough Guy
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CIA doesn't have to pay to discredit you chemtrail sniffers. You do it yourselves, for free.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 10:32 | 278635 jedwards
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lol anyone who doesn't think that 9-11 wasn't an inside plot is paid by the CIA?  I wish that were the case, I could use the extra money.

 

Plain and simple: anyone who thinks the US planned 9-11 on themselves is cuckoo.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 10:54 | 278643 taraxias
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After such persuasive arguments you are putting forth, how can possibly deny being a cuckoo? <<<sarcasm off>>>

Are you really that thick, or are those hundreds the CIA has put in front of you obstruct your vision.

I'm a practicing engineer from one of the best schools in the country. Those building were in free fall. Translation for dimwits like you: they collapsed from the bottom down, not from the top down as claimed by the USG. They were imploded. That's all I need to know.

Wake up FFS.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:15 | 278652 strike for retu...
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Interesting how those who would deny the reality of 9/11 always want to drag in some unrelated issue or make an ad hominem attack.  Did they take a debating class in high school?

Stick to the facts.  According to the official conspiracy theory three steel-framed skyscrapers collapsed from "fire" on 9/11.  No other steel-framed skyscraper has collapsed from fire before or since.

Here's the wacko theory... A handful of bored Saudi youths outwitted the US air defense systems and forced a peace-loving nation to start two wars that have killed an unknown number of innocent civilians and enlarged the US empire.  BTW, many estimates have the number of Iraqi deaths resulting from US sanctions and wars in the last twenty years as being over 1,000,000.

There is evil in this world, and you can choose to try to stop it or be part of it or to stick your head in the sand and wait until your ass is the target.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:10 | 278660 Internet Tough Guy
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You are a lunatic. If the CIA wanted to discredit your kind, the easiest thing to do is simply let you speak. Or the CIA may be helping spread trooferism, which is a great way to discredit it.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:19 | 278667 strike for retu...
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Calling people names is such a time-tested method of proving that you are correct.  I remember it as the most popular form of debate among third graders.

www.patriotsquestion911.com

www.911speakout.org

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 13:12 | 278760 gdub53
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You can't be for real. Or you are just a complete fucking idiot.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:17 | 278665 jedwards
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I too am a practicing engineer from a top school.  My closest friend is a civil engineer with almost 20 years of experience.  He works with explosives all the time.  He is sickened by all the so-called experts who claim that explosives brought down the WTCs.

You must have been the worst student in your engineering class if you believe that the buildings were in freefall.  Let me guess, were you an industrial engineering student?  Biomechanical?  Mining engineer?  Computer?  You certainly weren't in a discipline where both physics and common sense were a pre-requisite.

So forgive me, I was wrong.  Not everyone who believes that 9-11 was a US government conspiracy is cuckoo.  Some are just plain stupid, such as yourself.  The situation is far too complex for you to understand, however, you have filled in the gaps of your own intelligence with imagination, and have fooled yourself into thinking you understand.  You're kind of like global warming nutzis.  The idea that CO2 causes global warming is a very easy concept to visualize, therefore you think you understand it, whereas the actual mechanism of atmospheric science is far more complex then simply heat bouncing off CO2 in the atmosphere, and doesn't exist except in mythology.  But because your mind has grasped this idea, you think it's correct, but in fact, you're completely wrong.

If you need some help in visualizing how the WTCs collapsed, how about I dumb it down for you:

Did you ever play the video game Burgertime, where the chef runs over parts of a burger such as the lettuce, meat, or bun, and it creates a burger at the bottom of the screen?  Hopefully that is something that your mind can grasp.  Now, when you run over the top part of the bun, it actually causes a chain-reaction effect where the weight of the top layers cause the bottom layers to all collapse because of the weight of the upper layers hitting it.  One layer can cause the entire hamburger to collapse.

This is what happened in the WTC.  It was a giant hamburger that collapsed because the top parts collapsed on the lower layers.  It doesn't require explosives to bring down the entire building.  And no, the building was not "freefalling" despite what Loose Change would like you to think.

 

 

Like I said, I wish the CIA would pay me.  I would gladly take any free money coming my way.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:47 | 278679 strike for retu...
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NIST admits WTC 7 fell at freefall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA

WTC 1 and WTC 2 fell at less than freefall speed.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:30 | 278682 taraxias
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Wow, you can't even sound convincing in creating a strawman argument. Nice try in trying to bring CO2 into the picture.

You and your "engineer" friend must be confused. Or, perhaps you mean "engineer" in the loose European sense of a "boiler maintenance person" (look it up). If you don't undertsand what freefall is you have no business in even mentioning the word "engineer"

For the record, I'm a Civil Engineer and if you live in NY, there's probably a very good chance you've walked into buildings that I was the project lead on their design and construction. 

Grow up, and if you don't want top stop lying to us at least stop lying to yourself.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:52 | 278695 gmrpeabody
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ZH is starting to remind me  of the Yahoo message boards from years ago. You made your point, someone replied, move on.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 12:41 | 278731 strike for retu...
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As Ghandi, Martin Luther King and others have demonstrated some forms of evil can be destroyed through patiently publicizing the evil.  

At the same time there are those who would deny the existence of that evil either because of their own ignorance or fear or because they benefit from the evil.  Watch the video of the CFTC procedings.  Watch the video of Gensler's face while Murphy was speaking about Maguire.  See the faces of the other panelists.  From that alone you can tell who is lying and who is a hero.

Maguire is a hero.  Truth seekers are heroes.  Whistleblowers are heroes.

Anybody can choose to be a hero instead of being a coward or a criminal.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 13:29 | 278778 Cistercian
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 Excellent.Speaking the truth fearlessly is difficult.

 And it really angers the treasonous criminal liars.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 12:47 | 278742 Sabremesh
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"Incredulity" doesn't quite cover my response to your analogy. "Stupefaction" almost gets there. You are comparing the structural qualities of a hamburger versus the steel and concrete WTC buildings...as a means of clarifying your argument? Wait, not even. A computer game in which you make a burger, which collapses if you do it wrong, and this is supposed to illuminate your point? You are, without doubt, the purest, most perfectly complete, moron I have ever encountered. 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 13:14 | 278765 boiow
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+10 with bells on

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 13:14 | 278767 gdub53
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another fucking idiot !!!

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 13:43 | 278786 Hulk
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Hassan Astaneh - "The crash of the planes themselves must have had little, if any, impact on the internal structure of the towers at first, Astaneh explained, as the planes' weight alone -- even at a few hundred thousand pounds each -- would not have ruptured the girders. But the thousands of gallons of burning fuel and the instant explosions produced temperatures of more than 2,000 degrees, Astaneh said. That was more than enough to destroy the insulation around the steel beams and columns and weaken the steel members until they became "soft and mushy," he said. Those structural columns and beams, however strong originally, could not possibly have supported the undamaged upper floors of the two towers above the explosions. Suddenly, "as the columns collapsed, those whole upper stories of the buildings dropped like dead bodies," Astaneh said. "That impact was too much, and no building could possibly withstand such weight, so floor after floor came down in what we call progressive collapse."[4]

We are back to the fact that folks do not understand the amount of energy contained in a gallon of gas or jet fuel.

4 gas stations at an intersection represent the equivalent of "Little Boy" in energy.

IMHO, 911 represents a massive failure in US intelligence and not conspiracy

Junk away!

 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 14:21 | 278804 strike for retu...
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Oh, please.  Even NIST never claimed that jet fuel melted steel.

Melting temperature of steel ~1500 Celsius.  Jet fuel in a jet engine burns at ~1000 Celsius.  Jet fuel in an open air fire burns at less than 300 Celsius.  Clouds of black smoke indicate low temperature / inefficient burning.

Your gas station claim is absurd if you are refering to a chemical reaction.  Yeah a few tens of thousands of gallons of gasoline compare to tens of millions of pounds of TNT, not.  Do let us know what cities have been incinerated by errant gas stations.

Yet melted steel was found under all three towers more than a month after the collapse.  Unconsumed thermite and thermate were found in dust samples from around NYC after /11.  Likewise the byproduct of the burning of those materials. 

Firefighters had nearly extinguished the fires in the south tower.  Stop being a coward or a criminal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT-po-tmJRc

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 15:49 | 278864 WaterWings
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Mmm. Burgers. Hold the nano-thermite please.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 16:46 | 278926 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Burgers? 

9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 16:54 | 278931 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Seconds please?

CoreOfCorruption.com - 4 Suspects in World Trade Center Before 9/11 Doing Construction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA9MvV-SrCo

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 17:02 | 278937 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Dubs, I am still hungry!

Barry Jennings..RIP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKtNHPeKxg

Barry Jennings WTC 7 Interview (short version):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DuSeuxjiJQ

Barry Jennings - 9/11 WTC7 Full Uncut Interview - 2 of 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxUj6UgPODo

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 20:09 | 279135 cephalo
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jedwards;

You are a burgerneer of clown proportions.

The twin towers dustified.

Tue, 05/25/2010 - 22:47 | 373490 SILENCE DOOGOOD
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  Ok jedwards,

           Your hamburger theory coupled with denial makes it real easy for me to see through your disguise. I can spot a BUSH by the childrens' books that he reads and the adolescent video games he plays, that patch over your eye and that terrible pseudonym doesn't fool me. It's a new day George. We knew there were NO WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION, just as we know that the Twin Towers didn't collapse from heat exhaustion. Have another beer George; it's on US...........

Mon, 03/29/2010 - 07:10 | 279492 Frankie Carbone
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2nd practicing engineer here. 14 years in the field. The buildings fell too fast. Laymen opining on physics is worse than Cramer opining on stocks. 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 10:58 | 278649 Manbarepig
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Is 9/11 a gov't conspiracy? Probably.

 

Who flew planes into lower Manhattan, the Pentagon and PA farmland? About 2 dozen pissed off Arabs who believed in a higher power than American Idol, People magazine, and limitless fast food.

 

People have a hard time differentiating the ACT of 9/11 from the STORY of 9/11. Its much better on this side.

 

Oh, and stop watching Loose Change... such garbage...

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:06 | 278655 boiow
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nobody is saying idiot bush planned it. this was planned at levels above the president and in case you havn't noticed they are not apple pie eatin' uncle sam ,founding father US constitutionalists.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 16:20 | 278892 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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"Angel" was next, the threat stated.  This threat was made directly to the White House.  "Angel" is code for "Air Force One".  So up Angel rose into the heavens, and in a holding pattern she stayed for Horus...I mean hours.  Baby boy had no idea what was going on.  All he was told was to read his favorite book with a classroom full of children.

Seven Minutes - The Bush 9/11 Split Screen Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro3o-ld0CWw

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 14:16 | 278802 A Nanny Moose
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The US govt cannot even run R-Amtrack, however anyone who thinks wtc7 is anything other than a demo, is in denial. Just because one believes it was a demo, does not mean one believes the Goobermint was behind it. FTM.

How did structures bombed during the Bosnia conflict fare? How about Earthquakes? Not so neat is it?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sarajevo_1996_destroyed_appartmen...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4DJAh-RW2cw/R4vZg95SmFI/AAAAAAAABQk/YiDp8CA3qD...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4DJAh-RW2cw/R4tw6t5Sl0I/AAAAAAAABOA/Q9IzWeZvEw...

Today?

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7645/sarajevo007so0.jpg

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 10:26 | 278631 boiow
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plank

Tue, 04/06/2010 - 19:30 | 289175 SILENCE DOOGOOD
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 FUCK OBAMA'S REAL OR FAKE BIRTH CERTIFCATE!!! LETS TAKE CARE OF ONE CONSTITUTIONAL BREAKDOWN AT A TIME, BEGINNING WITH THE ASSHOLES THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO PRINT MONEY IN OPPOSITION TO THE CONSTITUTIONS " LEGAL TENDER SHALL BE COINED" THEN LETS GO AFTER ALL THE FUCKERS THAT HAVE COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST OUR UNITED STATES of AMERICA THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR RETIREMENTS, HOMES, AND ANY HOPE FOR A DECENT LIFE FOR OUR POSTERITY AND THIS LIST INCLUDES THAT ASSHOLE george "I THOUGHT THERE WERE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" bush!!!! and boy did i make my daddy proud when i caught his enemy saddam hussein!!!! I CAN"T GET MYSELF TO CAPITALIZE THE FUCKERS NAME.... FIRST THINGS FIRST... IF YOU START WITH THE NEW SHIT THEN ALL THE SHIT BEFORE A FUCKING BIRTH CERTIFICATE GETS LOST IN THE FUCKING SHUFFLE...........

                         Silence Doogood

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:22 | 278673 boiow
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anyone that flags CD's posts as junk has an agenda.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 11:42 | 278692 Bob
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He seems to have a stalker, fwiw.  It happens. 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 16:08 | 278883 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I didn't get **junked**?!  I sort of feel left out...maybe I should post more videos.  Here is the CCTV Buiding burning red hot, and then the day after.  Building did not fall.  Because steel framed skyscrapers were made to withstand, well, anything.

CCTV (China Central Television Station)'s new building get burned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDp_MEzsFWo

Aftermath of Oriental Tower fire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybvp6KoVH_E&NR=1

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 17:04 | 278943 Hulk
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We shall agree to disagree, Mr Lennon Hendrix and I shall not junk you!

Alas, I fear the ZH server hard drives are in danger of running out of space and will post no more on the 911 issue.....

 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 17:08 | 278945 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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touche.  I made my points.

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 07:04 | 278577 boiow
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+10  great site

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 01:07 | 278514 tmosley
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Assassination of a person shortly after blowing the whistle is NOT a strong move.  It only brings more attention.  The strong move would have been to assassinate him BEFORE he leaked the information.

This, instead, reeks of desperation. 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 01:57 | 278532 Bob
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On the chance, however unlikely, that it was an assassination attempt, not only was it pathetic both in concept and execution (London is blanketed with police surveilance cameras and the streets aren't really that great for get-away driving), but it would backfire badly.  Even if the "hit man" doesn't spill, this whistleblower is definitely on the charts now.  And you don't have two potentially fatal accidents.

He's golden. 

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 06:17 | 278570 Quintus
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I doubt they wanted to kill him.  Probably just scare the bejesus out of him and remind him that his wife and family are also in the firing line.  "Nice family you got there.  Be a shame if something bad happened to them...".  You'd have to be very determined, and have the full backing of your family, to continue speaking out after an incident like this.  

Sun, 03/28/2010 - 07:59 | 278592 SWRichmond
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exactly

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