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Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:45 | 954556 cougar_w
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epic lulz

actually kinda depressing

bipressing lulz, then

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:55 | 954587 nuinut
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Nailed it.(both you and the vid, that is...)

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:05 | 954616 downrodeo
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+1 i had to watch it twice. Half way through my mind went to a place that was so far away i could see russia. gotta love those innate defense mechanisms...

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 21:57 | 954898 66Sexy
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since when does america need 'UN approval' to go to war

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 22:08 | 954919 New_Meat
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of course, he was against the test, before he was for the test.

- Ned

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 00:54 | 955182 Attitude_Check
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Since we signed the UN Treaty, shortly after WWII.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:23 | 955576 Arkadaba
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+ true

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 04:47 | 955410 CH1
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It doesn't. That was just the excuse to get around Congress having to declare war.

Ya see, if we have these treaty obligations that Congress has already approved... and it our treaty partner says he needs us... then the big Jeffe can just say GO.

Another Constitutional safeguard bypassed! Hooray for our superior politicians!!

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 05:09 | 955422 pcrs
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Yes, I also was suprised by him saying that. War is bad, unless it has congressional or UN approval, then you can board your airplane, fly to a distance country and go on a killing spree with weapons you paid for with stolen money. You just need a bunch of guys to rubber stamp it and you are good to go. But otherwise, still a good video. High pace though.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:15 | 955787 DosZap
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Since we have pussies for leadership.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 06:20 | 955449 Michael
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The results of global cooling are coming in;

"Houston - The cold weather experienced across much of the US in early February made its way deep into Mexico and early reports estimate 80-100 percent crop losses which are having an immediate impact on prices at US grocery stores with more volatility to come.

Wholesale food suppliers have already sent notices to supermarket retailers describing the produce losses in Mexico and the impact shoppers can expect. Sysco sent out a release(pdf) this week stating the early February freeze reached as far south as Los Mochis and south of Culiacan, both located in the state of Sinaloa, along the Gulf of California. The freezing temperatures were the worst the region has seen since 1957."

According to Sysco’s notice sent out this week:
“The early reports are still coming in but most are showing losses of crops in the range of 80 to 100%. Even shade house product was hit by the extremely cold temps. It will take 7-10 days to have a clearer picture frome growers and field supervisors, but these growing regions haven’t had cold like this in over half a century.”

“Supplies of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers and other vegetables from Mexico will be severely limited until at least March following an early February freeze.”

Jerry Wagner, sales and marketing director for Farmer’s Best, based in Nogales, AZ, said: “The end of February and the first half of March, there will be even worse shortages of product” than during the first part of February, The Packer reports.
Wagner called it “a miracle” if 20 percent of the cucumber crop survives. Yellow, green and grey squash took the biggest hit. “Some plants will come back but the vast majority is lost,” Wagner added.

Sysco called the Mexico freeze an “unprecedented disaster” and noted the volatility of the matter in its release:
“With the series of weather disasters that has occurred in both of these major growing areas we will experience immediate volatile prices, expected limited availability, and mediocre quality at best.”

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:40 | 955507 creviceCaress
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that has nothing to do with the threads?


if you THINK you know what the fuck is going on with climate, go to climate progress or real climate and go to town......they, for some reason, think that the planet is warming....crazy, huh?......and the people there can play tag with globalcooling.warming/shitting/whatthefuckever.........


is its cooling, yer screwed


if it warming yer screwed


if they carbon tax yer ass, dont pay it.


leave me the alone with your long posts about poo-poo

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:20 | 955631 Michael
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"The results of global cooling are coming in"

Are these 8 words all it took to set you off? I'll go for 7 next time.

The rest is accurate info from a news story that will lead to higher food prices, not my fault. 

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:52 | 955726 slewie the pi-rat
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yo!  crevicareless:









AND DIE YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YouTube - Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth

w/ video fr. Smotherz Broz (if U like stephen stillz):  YouTube - Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth -Smother Bros show  (oh---and neil young, too, playing harmonics)

M's ok, in my book, tf,  fight club, OK, friend?  peace.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:55 | 955852 Armchair Bear
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Better version:


Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth (something's happening here) dedicated to Aaron Russo

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:49 | 955927 Michael
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Thanks for the support STP, appreciate it.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:08 | 955965 slewie the pi-rat
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as they say in the capenters' union--they guys & gals w/ the golden hammerz, YouTube - Doug Clark & the Hot Nuts "Baby Let Me Bang Your Box Pt. 1"

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:08 | 955966 slewie the pi-rat
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as they say in the capenters' union--they guys & gals w/ the golden hammerz, YouTube - Doug Clark & the Hot Nuts "Baby Let Me Bang Your Box Pt. 1"

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:37 | 955741 Hulk
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Actually, global warming = lots o food. Global cooling = real disaster, if it proceeds as it has in the past...

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:55 | 955850 Rodent Freikorps
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Move south.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:36 | 956150 SilverDOG
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"Global Warming" often, in geological terms,

has a nice little micro ice age directly in front of it.

Especially when its normal 26,000 yr cycle is augmented by a

retarded, masochistic, self indulgent, suicidal, "Global Parasite" humans.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 02:29 | 955313 Freddie
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Sadly it was pretty damn accurate.  BTW - the cartoon character at 3:23 stealing my Social Security looks like William Banzai 7. 

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 07:46 | 955476 velobabe
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the social security bandit, bitchez†

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:57 | 955857 Armchair Bear
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don't listen to him Bill, you are much cuter even if not shaven!

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 02:52 | 955341 Terra-Firma
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Let me throw this thought and life example your way...I use Google Earth Pro increasingly as a basis for shared communication to accelerate conceptual project design and too bridge across professional boundaries. Fewer egos more product faster learning cycles and more fun - no boredom. We share our Knowledge spatially because it empowers better mutual decisions. We talk the same language. Know why? it makes me money by helping others make money. It's as if the physical and social sciences have found a common vocabulary. And imagine. plant earth. Occam's razor or what :)

 In 2005 Marcus Hutter mathematically proved that shorter computable theories have more weight when calculating the expected value of an action across all computable theories which perfectly describe previous observations.

A theory of the post industrial world order and it's manifestation in the market as we knew it.

We are now fully entering the post-industrial cybernic age and are at the threshold of our next evolutionary step. if we make it. My theory is that Google, Microsoft, Intel and similar sectors are owned by government, just as the Chinese government owns all its multi-national corporations. For strategic management purposes. In the US we moved to what the tea & "pot" people call statism or facism.

We simply do not have a paradigm from which to understand what is happening to economies in highly modernized hyper-cyberconnected countries. From my vantage point, the US is becoming a knowledge creating factory that is empowering people all over the world to transcend the limitations of their physicality. So, when the physiological distance between peoples' physical reality and their cyber reality becomes to great ie., the dissonance becomes unsupportable; they act! Empowered people may not do much, but empowered, hungry people with a growing digisense (a sixth sense we are evolving) topple governments. A Egyptian Google executive in Egyt was one of - "the people" looked to for leadership in the recent Egyptian turmoil.

So here you go. We human beings are transcending borders and our limitations. Where that will lead nobody knows. As I've said before, as the pen and the written word enabled us to transcend our communication and knowledge boundaries The pen enabled an evolutionary step. Imagine if you will what nano-technology combined with our ability to create new living organisms through DNA programming. And that is just the beginning. We are in the process of another evolutionary step wherein we are loosing our survival reference points. That is where I see future value creation. We program and grow our furniture and walls are living light emitting photo algae that also purify the air. Crazy? Like trying to convince a Neolithic man his ancestors will walk on the moon.

Evolve or die bitches.



Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:52 | 955385 The Real Fake E...
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agree (with the parts I can understand anyway)

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 04:50 | 955414 CH1
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Why would you want to give Google all that information????

You realize, I hope, that YOU are the product Google sells to the people who actually pay them.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:01 | 955948 Terra-Firma
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You make it sound like you have no choice in the matter of change. Self-defeatist technocratic attitude. You have all the choices. Now decide. Every dollar spent is a vote for the economy you want. Nobody is forcing you to spend your money.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 05:49 | 955433 cossack55
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I figure we are all going to reap the latter option.  A good read...   The Last Gasp. Fiction, but fun.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 07:22 | 955454 Michael
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I am all for the intangible social aspect from Internet cyberspace hive mind sharing of information and the free exchange of ideas it provides.

When it comes to putting into practice real world reality on the street dealing with thousands of different personalities, the animal instincts take over and cannot be tamed. Virtually everyone looks out for their own wallet.  Human behavior has not changed in 7,000 years and is not in danger of changing any time soon.

This is why we impose mortal conditions of restraint on ourselves acceptable to most of us. The Internet cannot do that. 

The best social order we have devised thus far is called the US Constitution.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 09:04 | 955525 cossack55
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Must disagree, Mikey. IMO, Articles of Confederation are far superior to constitution.  I need as little goobermint as posible.  You like goobermint, move to N. Korea.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:13 | 955881 GoinFawr
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I too like as little 'goobermint' as possible, for the middle class.

For big business (including, no wait, especially banks), I like a lot of 'regulation'.

In fact, I think there should be a regulatory formula that favours the poorest and penalizes the wealthiest.

IE Reverse the status quo (in America, anyway) 

It's callled a 'mixed economy', or 'indicative planning' and has been very successful where GS the IMF and all their cronies haven't been able to ef it up. (though not for a lack of effort, to be sure)

Bring on the junks and strawmen all you duped right wing loonies!!!


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:17 | 955885 Rodent Freikorps
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Why do you hate History?

Power corrupts. If your savior is government, you will be a slave.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:44 | 955924 GoinFawr
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Who said anything about a 'savior'?

Just trying to be realistic, pragmatic.

Realistic hypothetical:

Zero regulation means big business puts melamine in your milk and 10,000 babies die before everyone catches on and boycotts the company, if they can actually discover which producer it was.

Pragmatic hypothetical:

Zero regulation means that the handful of thugs you rail against today gain absolute control of your media, your food supply... shit, look around you, it's happening.

Zero regulation will essentially mean the exact same thing as absolute regulation.

While that may seem like a Zen koan... hell, maybe it should be.

Look, when I was fifteen I liked the idea of Anarchy too, and when I turned seventeen I realized that it was essentially the same ideology as pure communism (not Stalinism; for all you Americans hopelessly frozen in 1955), but when I turned twenty I had an epiphany:

Not all people are created equal, some are absolute and total assholes, and they like it that way. Whether it is by genetics or environment, it doesn't really matter (education may be able to remedy these handicaps-but that is another thread), so civil oversight of large populations in just plain necessary. And that involves some 'goobermint', some 'bureaucracy', some wasted capital (human sweat and tears). Less is better, of course, but to hope for zero is silly.

Better, IMO, to think of it as a limit function, as the variable representing 'goobermint' approaches zero, your happiness approaches infinity. Bro, I got news for ya, infinity might make up the universe, but your consiousness has a limited timeline.

You're delusional if you think the world, with this magnitude of population, will function smoothly in any other way.

But if you want to just tear it all down and 'let the chips fall where they may', I'm on board with that too. But trust me, some sort of organisation




Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:54 | 955935 Rodent Freikorps
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How's the most regulated society in the entire history of mankind working out for you?

Life is simple. If a business screws the public, hang its executives. All of them.

Simple and not dictatorial.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:06 | 955961 wisefool
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Timmay cheated on his world bank 1099s. He is the "decider" for all tax recipets.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:43 | 955982 GoinFawr
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Whoops, I truncated myself up there.

To which society would you be referring RF? America? If so, I think you might want to take another shot at reading my post.

And I am doing fine, thanks for asking (!) But then again I have been extremely lucky, IMHO. "Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night." and all that cal.

If a business kills a million people, but nobody can find them because they own all the media, and there is no civil oversight or institution to provide recourse, do they get away with it? Yes.

Life can be simple on an individual scale, but large numbers complicate everything.

FWIW: A dictatorship is one of the simplest forms of gov't, and I think you are going the route of confusing what I am talking about with Stalinism, which is the direction you have likely been conditioned to head since birth if anybody mentions certain words.

Honestly, unless you have 40 billion (at current exhange rates) in bullion  on hand, what I am talking about would benefit you and yours greatly.

Try reading it again.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:57 | 956037 Rodent Freikorps
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The march of history REQUIRES govt. to become fascist.


From time to time the Tree of Liberty...

Lather, rinse, repeat. Human nature is not changeable.

I'm not arguing with your high-minded ideology. I'm just saying it is doomed to failure as governments always grow and take away liberties. Reality bats last.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:06 | 956100 wisefool
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There is an "app" and/or sociology degree for that. All my hopes that Putin does not make good on his promise to kill the love child of John Edwards, trial lawyer, senator and candidate for vice president of the USA.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:34 | 956138 GoinFawr
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'High minded'? Hardly. Just observing existing political systems that have been in place, and functioning nicely, for quite some time.  If 'reality bats last' it's hitting home runs today in a variety of nations. Not too hard to find successful examples of what I am talking about, either, if you are willing to take a look outside of your own screen door. And not one of them seem to be sliding down the slippery path to autocracy you've laid out for them.

On the other hand, in the home of the 'brave',  or land of the 'free'...

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:35 | 956153 Rodent Freikorps
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The US is failing. Our shield over Europe will fail.

Expect changes.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:55 | 956196 GoinFawr
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Erm, I don't share your belief that 'America has been protecting the world', rather the opposite, IMO. More like America the imperialist nation dominated by a bloated Industrial Military Complex stirring up hornet's nests worldwide with the intent of keeping their contracts alive and moving by killing anything that is alive and moving. The poorer and less capable of fighting back the better, too.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 17:00 | 956205 Rodent Freikorps
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Your prayers will be answered.

Good luck.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 17:05 | 956217 GoinFawr
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Well, I don't pray, but I can dance!



Sun, 02/13/2011 - 01:50 | 957169 philgramm
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An atheist who believes in gov't is still just a theist.

Sun, 02/13/2011 - 16:02 | 958001 GoinFawr
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No, I believe in being realistic. And reality is that you can't have civilisation billions of people strong without some degree of organisation, cooperation and regulation with civil oversight.

Your 'turn of phrase' is meaningless.

TD: "...oh I get it alright. It's very clever. How's that working out for you; being clever?"

Ans. "great...'

TD: "Well keep it up then..."


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 20:12 | 956608 Count Floyd
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Excellent post! 

Fuck ideologues!

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 22:38 | 956840 GoinFawr
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"Scaaaary stuff kids..."

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:06 | 955962 Terra-Firma
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simplistic, linear and Marxist. Marxism was born out the age of plenty brought on with the industrial revolution when the critical issue was how to divide the spoils of plenty. Marxism and capitalism are poor frameworks from which to address scarcity while maintaining global social harmony. We have to move beyond the political rhetoric born out of post feudal industrialism and look to creating a framework that works better for us now. Old reference points old solutions.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:45 | 955999 GoinFawr
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Due to the way the replies in this thread are unfolding, I'm not sure if this was a response to my advocating the standing success of 'mixed economies'

If it was: Read it again, you're missing everything.

Hint: a little from column 'A', and a little from column 'B'

Simplistic? Linear? Not likely. Perhaps easy to explain, but it in practice it takes skill to balance.

Upon reflection, I probably shouldn't have used the politically charged words of 'favours' and 'penalizes'.

Let's replace them with 'encourages' (the poorest) and 'closely monitors (the wealthiest) to maintain a net benefit to society'

IE it's simpler to raise yourself out of poverty through hard work than it is to maintain an extremely indolent lifestyle at the expense of other's labour.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:00 | 955479 Fíréan
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reply @ terra firma.



You, the dependent upon your technologies , gadets and gimmickery are the outdated. 

The new evolved is far beyond that which you percieve to be progress, your progress is still within your old paradigm ; still servitude to technology.

True evolution will be within the human themselves, not from some external gadetry, nor some extension from the industrial/techological revolution. A revolution, or evolution, of the person themselves, to each one a personnal revolution and greater understanding, and awareness, of their own being.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:50 | 955759 slewie the pi-rat
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i concur, F.  "evolution" is personal.  always and everywhere.  "progress" too, eh?  terra firma , no cooties, ok?  it is, perhaps, neither your path nor your destiny, but it IS your choice, friend.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:32 | 955584 Arkadaba
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Wow you telecommute ... or maybe you are the singularity. Sorry didn't understand what point you were trying to make in your post.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:24 | 955989 Terra-Firma
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I've worked as a sole proprietor for over 10 years. I don't hire employees. All human resources are contracted; often with people I never meet, all over the world. I electronically communicate and pay all my contractors; which incidentally are also my clients; a global matrix organization if you will. We  always keep an eye out for work for each other, and we come together to create the "right" size, skill and cost structure team depending on client's needs. So, I think our assumptions regarding scales of production efficiency are going to start breaking down soon. For example, with three-D printers emerging at reasonable prices, we may have micro-factories emerging that completely destroy the concept of production efficiency. Think of the original model T and the factory that produced them. The entire supply and construction chain was under one roof miles long. Today it is globally distributed with just in time production the norm. Now take that a few steps further and add highly distributed parts manufacture to the mix.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:43 | 956175 GoinFawr
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Micro manufacturing! NOW you're talkin' my language, friend.

Micro power generation on the way too. Every bldg., lamp post, etc. a station.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 17:38 | 956226 Terra-Firma
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Exactly. Let me put a different spin on what our predicament is. Let's say you own the light that falls on your property. You own that energy ... you can sell it. Let's connect a few dots. Inflation due to trillion dollar bond purchases plus hype up the kazoo to stimulate consumption. I've made money on the printing have you? or are you shorting hoping otherwise. The Chinese know exactly what is going on because they are in on it. Next inflation makes your little piece of energy real-estate look pretty sweet. Especially if a middle-eastern brotherhood of states emerges from the generational transfer of power to the younger generations. Our energy gravy train goes to shit. Tar sands suck. The real return on energy invested to return on investment will decline rapidly because of the price curve of its critical input. Natural Gas. So let's see, you got energy to sell and somebody is willing to buy it from you because the fuel bills are for hell. Please see note on inflation. As inflation kicks up to 18%: Yes, at 18% inflation your relative debt to income declines rapidly. I've lived through 18% inflation in the late 1970's in Canada. You get use to it. Weird thing to say, but true. So please, get on the bus and make some money as your future unfolds or continue to gripe.

Sun, 02/13/2011 - 16:06 | 958010 GoinFawr
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Whoa, there you go on the assumptions again.

I'm not 'griping' by suggesting there are alternatives to 'corruption or chaos',  and providing working examples.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:18 | 955706 Walt Whitman
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Techno-babble distilled to four words...

Welcome to the machine.

We are at a bifurcation point where the decision to become one with the matrix or become truly human will be the next evolutionary step. Choose well, my friends.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:21 | 955713 Blankman
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You mean the sixth sense that we used to have but are now finding that we have to reawaken before we lose it completely. The sixth sense that prior to TV we used to use to sense danger or beings in our proximity. I'm not exactly sure when most people lost it. I do know women have a greater sense of it than men. My wife can always tell when I am up to something. In the not too distant past past this would have gotten her into trouble - she's a witch burn her :)

So as for your argument that we are now acquiring this, I feel that we are now reacquiring it as our receptors to it are going off and telling us something is wrong. Computers do nothing but eliminate this from us, don't kid yourself, they are just as bad as T.V. for most people. Computers help us to eliminate a key part of our lives, critical thinking. Now who would benefit at the destruction of peoples critical thinking processes? Hmmm....

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:56 | 955941 velobabe
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i got my sixth sense right back, when my husband decided not to come home one night. you know i didn't even know I had my front door key. for almost 30 years i never locked my front door. i do now, though.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:04 | 956089 buzzard
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If you actually believe this stuff you have a big surprise waiting for you very soon. (It's not my place to junk yet.)

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 20:16 | 956617 trav7777
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yeah let's just assume the energy into existence to power all this shit

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 23:44 | 956889 GoinFawr
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Trav, I am totally with you on peak oil theory, and all the  pains that will undoubtedly come as the production graph continues its downward spiral signalling the end of an era. Obviously things will have to change, but probably won't fast enough. Obviously there will be some serious suffering, likely culminating in some brutal war that will decimate the planet's population. Real change, transition, almost always sucks for the unprepared and unwilling. Agree 100%.

But you must be aware that there is more than enough solar energy hitting the earth every day(hour?) to power everything we've got going now for what, a year? This energy is in the furnace of the core/mantle of our planet, in the moon pulling around the oceans, wind.... it's all there bud, we've just got to alter our assumptions around how we harness it, and deploy it.

No magic required.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 06:21 | 955448 Michael
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Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:57 | 955521 Blano
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This was amusing until the going to war without UN approval bullshit. 

Anybody who thinks the US needs permission from a bunch of third world shitheads to either protect itself or go after its enemies is a truly stupid fuck who probably deserves a suitcase bomb up their ass.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:36 | 955587 Arkadaba
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Which war in the past 100 years was based on the US defending itself? 

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:26 | 955802 DosZap
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Yes the UN is the mechanism they intend to use to institute Intl Law & Treaties.

It will give them authority over each individual on the planet, as they can arrest you, and try you because you will have lost your rights.

The Ultimate end to the One World Order.

Ever one exactly the SAME.

We gave them Prime RE for free, the average(includes janitors, and switchboard ops), was over 75k  a year 10yrs ago.

We also pay approx 25%+/- of their total Op budget, so some google head from Botswana can vote against us, and still take the millions we give most of the UN member states.

They hate us, we support them, yep, sounds about right.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:27 | 955995 Terra-Firma
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a myopic cynical outlook. I don't want you on my team. I want people that can see the shit, call it shit, and get the job done irrespective. Shit is just part of reality. Too bad that is all you see.



Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:27 | 955997 Terra-Firma
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a myopic cynical outlook. I don't want you on my team. I want people that can see the shit, call it shit, and get the job done irrespective. Shit is just part of reality. Too bad that is all you see.



Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:29 | 956001 ColonelCooper
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I believe that was simply a slam on leftists who accuse neo-con hawks for starting wars without UN sanction, (ie Bush).  More left right bullshit than an endorsement of the UN.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 22:08 | 956811 In Fed We Trust
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Did anyone happen to notice the main headline(top) heaadline on the Drudge last night was "Dollar to collaspe in 2011" in red bold font.


Then 20 minutes later, the link is no longer there! It aint the first time I've got Matt pulling a link minutes after he posted it.

ANother article that is still there is "IMF wants new Reserve currency." Special Drawing Rights to be specfic. 

So it appears it is the agenda of the elitest(Soros) to kill the dollar, to usher in many new schemes and control. 

I had a feeling this was the case, but now it appears it's imment.

Obama will not only be a one termer, but he will be blamed for what happens this year,

eventhough all this  was already set in motion. Blaming Obams, is as absurd as Gore taking credit for the Internet.

Obama will be the fall guy. Hopefully he dosn't take it personal and get trigger happy with the nukes.



Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:44 | 954557 ghostfaceinvestah
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Good argument for home schooling.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:49 | 954569 cougar_w
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Yup. Both our kids are homeschooled.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:53 | 954588 Amabo Kcarab
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Good thing plenty of janitor jobs are available.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:01 | 954605 cougar_w
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Ha ha! not

Trolling for kids is lame.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:22 | 954659 Amabo Kcarab
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Actually was not trolling.

My kids will need jobs after public education.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:28 | 954676 cougar_w
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Well actually you don't know what your kids will need. That's the interesting thing about parenting and education both; you have to prepare them for the unknown.

Pretending there is any other task is assuming too much advanced knowledge. Most people make that mistake, but it's still a mistake even if everyone is making it.

I have extensive background in education. I've seen good schools and bad. K12 through college. And what I've taken from all those years is that we can really only prepare children to be agile, flexible and determined. With that preparation they can handle the unknown.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 21:19 | 954808 DaveyJones
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well said

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 00:49 | 955178 Bananamerican
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perceptive, resourceful, determined....™

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 22:10 | 954924 New_Meat
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plant a seed, help it grow.

first aid at some more advanced level

swim, run

compete: lose, lose, win, lose--figure out why

math, write, speak, read

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 22:22 | 954945 andybev01
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Who junked you for that?!

That is one of the most rational things I have read today.


Thanks, Cougar.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:30 | 955808 DosZap
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Sometimes a few here have Logic escape the discussion.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 00:15 | 955132 RichardP
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And thus the value of an appropriate Liberal Arts education, with a firm foundation built from reading in Western literature.  This teaches that certain human nature keeps popping up over the centuries; certain approaches to problem solving keep popping up as the more successful over the centuries.

Helping folks learn how to think will help them handle an unknown future far better than teaching them what to think.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 01:16 | 955215 Oh regional Indian
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Well said all around Cougar. Education is a terrible thing. Not be confused with learning.

Even knowledge is simple a ledge of knowing, a waypoint.

Etymology always tells me the story. The root word for Education is educe, to lead...

so any pattern of educations teaches hirearchical thinking, lead or be lead.

And what is it with English? Lead (leed), lead (led) and Pb? All spelt the same?

Therein lies another rub!


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 02:53 | 955343 jeff montanye
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wildly inconsistent and horribly hard to learn.  too bad the french didn't take after the norman conquest.  then two successive world empires used it on the natives.  the gods chuckle.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 07:08 | 955466 Oh regional Indian
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Yep. French is way richer and closer to the root it sprang from.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:42 | 955830 slewie the pi-rat
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pls see my post next pg, ori, ok?

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:44 | 955923 Oh regional Indian
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Sure slewie.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 05:51 | 955435 cossack55
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English=fiat language

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 07:10 | 955468 Oh regional Indian
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Ergo, completely worthless and backed by nothing but hot air (and a bit of cheap slave laboUr). ;-)

It's the national language of Bernakistaaaan!


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 01:29 | 955237 Freddie
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Sat, 02/12/2011 - 02:40 | 955331 KevinB
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1 - Amazed anyone junked you.


2 - "Agile, flexible, and determined" - most schools fail miserably on these points (and that's whether or not you apply them to academics or athletics!). For the most part, they're propaganda factories, telling you government is good, global warming is real, and gold is a barbarous relic. Mental agility is less valued than rote recitation; flexibility less than sheepish submission, and determination only when it doesn't conflict with teacher's ideas.

My girls do fine in the public school system, but only because I suspect they get a huge dose of intellectual counter-measures at home.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:33 | 955815 DosZap
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My girls do fine in the public school system, but only because I suspect they get a huge dose of intellectual counter-measures at home.

Correct, the only problem is, your only 5% of the parents that will give a shit.
Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:34 | 955372 The Alarmist
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Waste of time ... the only thing you need to train them to do is to get a government job.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 09:59 | 955555 Coast Watcher
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Cougar, too true. Can't imagine why anyone junked you.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:44 | 955599 Arkadaba
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You sound like a good parent. Luckily I went to school when there was still an emphasis on critical thinking (with some teachers). I had one great math teacher when I was eleven - he let me come up with "alternative" solutions to the "subscribed" answer - and he checked my mathematical operations to make sure they worked. 

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 14:36 | 955913 Jump The Shark
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Good Stuff

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:21 | 954654 ghostfaceinvestah
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Definitely - for all those public school kids who graduate with functional illiteracy.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:23 | 955487 Fíréan
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I wish to post a supportive note for the home schoolers, to be contrary to the flagging of their posts as junk !


( my reply turns up somehere other than where i clicked "reply" but gets the message across.)

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:13 | 954629 Dirtt
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Now that's a positive take away.  I don't have kids but I still don't understand why people send their kids to those union cesspools under the direction of the DOE.

Take your children away from these people!

Great video.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:54 | 954751 1984
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Because they already paid the money and can't pay again for private school and too incompetent and/or too busy to homeschool.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 02:56 | 955347 jeff montanye
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or the union cesspool is better than the christian academy it competes with.  depends a lot on the neighborhood.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:07 | 955354 iDealMeat
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I junked you for this thoughtless comment.. Public school is quite possibly the best thing any kid could experience..

In public schools kids quickly learn to look past color or race. They then gravitate to other kids whom have an unbiased upbringing.

In public schools you'll see an Asian kid playing kick ball with a black kid.. none of em care..

In private school you'll see a bunch of white kids learning how to cook books.



Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:37 | 955376 The Alarmist
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Junked, because the only thing worse than a cynic like me is a wide-eyed koolaid drinker like you.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:37 | 955738 Walt Whitman
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The only thing worse than a cynic like me is a wide-eyed koolaid drinker like you.

Whew! I will use that often, as it so well describes the political divide today. Brevity is, indeed, the soul of wit!

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:42 | 955377 Rodent Freikorps
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The purpose of public schooling is social engineering? Good to know.


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 04:40 | 955408 AnAnonymous
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The purpose of public schooling is social engineering? Good to know.


The purpose of schooling is social engineering. Has been that way for millenia in this part of the world at least.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:39 | 955828 DosZap
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The people who are responsible for our kids textbooks are the enemy.

Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:24 | 957473 scratch_and_sniff
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the purpose of public schooling is that of glorified babysitting.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:29 | 955496 velobabe
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well i tried to be a teacher† i think  i was influential for a couple of young people, teaching them how to throw a pot. males and females, in the late 70's.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:15 | 955570 snowball777
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And the purpose of home-schooling isn't?! Check out the homogenous and narrow range of opinions that come out of homeschoolers and try to tell me again that it isn't just a different form of indoctrination.

Parenting is the key, regardless of where your children attend.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 07:28 | 955470 zhandax
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@iDealMeat  I junked you for being a party line fucktard.                                                                                   Some people's sole function in life is to be in the way.  You sure sound like one of them.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:51 | 955515 creviceCaress
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john taylor gatto

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:59 | 955523 Blano
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What a stupid ass comment.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Reverend Jackson is in the house!!!

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 21:11 | 956706 trav7777
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better to send your kids to see the machine firsthand and teach them right from wrong at home...otherwise the whole thing is a shock.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:45 | 954559 Boilermaker
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They forgot to add that the founding fathers worked to their deaths to end slavery....

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:05 | 954611 Amabo Kcarab
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They forgot to add that the founding fathers worked their slaves to death to end slavery....

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:00 | 955351 jeff montanye
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george washington freed his slaves in his will which he hoped would establish a precedent (it didn't).  he also had some of their teeth extracted (pre novocain) to make himself false teeth.  so it was a mixed bag.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:32 | 955729 Boilermaker
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I was referring to Bachmann's rebuttal to the State of the Union address...

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 21:04 | 954771 nmewn
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"They forgot to add that the founding fathers worked to their deaths to end slavery...."

Their grandsons had 600,000 casualties though...or so the schools say about the "event".


Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:59 | 955612 AnAnonymous
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Their grandsons had 600,000 casualties though...or so the schools say about the "event".


What event? The battle Union vs Confederation event?

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:41 | 955747 MolotovCockhead
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"They forgot to add that the founding fathers worked to their deaths to end slavery...."

Not really true....Convince them that they are free, pay them a salary and work them to death are way more profitable!!

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:48 | 954565 Belrev
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Americans are the most brainwashed dimwits in the world despite "freedom of speech", "democracy" and huge numbers of "independent" news media outlets and information. An arab in Egypt has a better understanding and is far greater informed about the truth of what goes on in the world then americans. Only something like 10% support Ron Paul. That sais it all.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:51 | 954578 Boilermaker
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Oh, fuck you.  I've been around Eurotards all my life and dipshit Asians.  This isn't an "American" phenomenon.  There are stump-jumping-shit-eating morons all over the planet.  Frankly, I find the Americans slightly less shit-ass stupid that then broader mix of shit-ass stupid people.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:08 | 954622 Howard_Beale
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LMAO!!! Where the fuck have you been hiding? Keep it up!

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 22:12 | 954928 New_Meat
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northern Indiana hasn't been so really good these last 30 years or so, give him a break ;-O

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:32 | 955730 Boilermaker
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Actually, you should save the sympathy for those in northern Indiana.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:24 | 955798 New_Meat
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What I was saying, done work in E. Chicago. 

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:30 | 955807 Boilermaker
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Beer or Steel?

In metro Detroit now...actually feels like a bit of a come back (wich alot more 'coming back' needed).

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:38 | 955823 New_Meat
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Steel, thought I was out of power plants for a while, then, well, slurped back in.

We've had really good luck with Purdue engineers.  Kinda' why I was 'tweeking' a bit

- Ned

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:27 | 954673 TuffsNotEnuff
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You are too *&^%#$%*&^%!@#$%^ kind.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:37 | 954701 Sam Clemons
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You are 100% right actually.  Despite the American proletariat being seemingly obsessed with Jersey Shore and the NFL, most people that would be labeled common or "blue collar" actually understand that hard work creates wealth, not a money machine or shuffling papers, and that they want the government to leave them the f*ck alone. 

Most people need to get out and talk to people instead of assuming everyone else is a moron.  I had this attitude before and realized that I'm not all that smart either.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 22:59 | 955004 blunderdog
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Right on, man.

The best possible response to someone who has just said something you completely disagree with is, "What makes you say that?"

The answers are far more informative that the self-proclaimed "right thinkers" will ever admit.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 16:09 | 956102 Jump The Shark
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What makes you say that?

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 23:27 | 955067 lincolnsteffens
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Most people have brains with the physical capacity to be intelligent. It is just that most  have been  programmed for ignorance, being unaware, and for not speaking out or questioning. That includes the inability of solving problems based on common sense. We also have  been conditioned to go along in order to avoid problems. If life gets bad enough most people out of necessity will rise to the challenge .

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 02:44 | 955336 KevinB
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Most people need to get out and talk to people instead of assuming everyone else is a moron.

Really? You should work in customer service for a while. You hunger for the one person in a thousand that's actually capable of understanding what you're telling them.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 05:54 | 955438 Confused
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That would depend on what your "servicing" now wouldn't it? 



Sat, 02/12/2011 - 15:37 | 956025 PeterSchump
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With the sad point though that our society rewards Jersey Shore and NFL types more than the hard working blue collar types.   Rightfully so I guess, drink, fuck, and toss a ball around and make millions; actually be productive and have your savings depreciated to 0 by the Fed.  Later,  I'm going to to the gym and, later, on the way to the party I'll stop by the package store for some Bud and Extenze.  I'm on my way to success and freedom from wont now baby!

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:58 | 954756 Yen Cross
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That was good! Tell it Angela Merkel style!

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 21:43 | 954871 Freewheelin Franklin
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Which is exactly why we need government to make decisions for them.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 03:47 | 955380 hugolp
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Oh, fuck you.  I've been around Eurotards all my life and dipshit Asians.  This isn't an "American" phenomenon.  There are stump-jumping-shit-eating morons all over the planet.  Frankly, I find the Americans slightly less shit-ass stupid that then broader mix of shit-ass stupid people.

As a european I agree. There is clueless and careless people everywhere, but the USA population is better informed and more organized than anyone in Europe.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:37 | 955739 Boilermaker
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I'm not saying Euros are less or more educated or intelligent than Americans.  I'm married to a German immigrant and have worked with the French, Swedes, Brits, Germans, Italians, Dutch, Japanese, Brazilians, and Chinese over the last 15 years.  Let me tell you something.  They all have the same percentage of morons and uneducated goof-ups.

What irritates the shit out me is the constant BS that Americans are 'stupid' or 'uneducated'.  We aren't, we weren't, and we aren't going to be.  You know, somehow...someway...we did manage to become the superpower of the world.  Moreover, the arguement is shit anyway as America is COMPLETELY comprised of immigrants from around the world and predominantly from Europe. gets a bit old.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 13:31 | 955740 Boilermaker
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Fri, 02/11/2011 - 19:54 | 954589 cougar_w
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I don't think that supporting Ron Paul ought to become a litmus test for intelligence.

Thinking for yourself, definitely.

It's not hard to know more about the world than Americans. We already live in a very large country, we are surrounded by water and two friendly nations with which have not (recently) been at war with us (yet. Canada I'm looking at you.) So our level of concern about things outside is really low. I think that level of concern is now rising, and that is a good thing.

Sat, 02/12/2011 - 17:46 | 956269 GoinFawr
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haha Cougar, I am dead sure Canada is looking right back, shuddering at the prospect of US soldiers returning home only to join the ranks of the unemployed, and listlessly looking about for somewhere new to practice their 'art'. Heh, this isn't 1812, the brits can't help.


PS. Hoo hoo, You certainly are a junk magnet; must be pushing the right buttons because the quality of your posts is definitely not 'troll'. Thanks for taking the time.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:22 | 954661 downwiththebanks
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Ron Paul doesn't understand how Capital functions.

And he is a Republican.

That alone is reason enough to send him to the curb.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 20:32 | 954687 TuffsNotEnuff
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Ron Paul fails to differentiate productive capitalism from modern financial capitalism.

Financial capitalism has developed into a privately controlled, largely criminal operation that lives under protections of the Federal government. Where this RICO operation is not protected, it has special status as a Self-Regulated Organization where rules overwhelm normal rule of law.

If the CPAC fanatics could earn "C" grades in any 3rd year undergraduate finance course releated to the national accounts system, they would be convert to hard leftists.

No danger of that.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 21:06 | 954774 gwar5
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Conservatives earn 60% more college degrees than liberals do. True every year since 1955 when records were first kept. It's not even counter-intuitive. 90% of prison inmates identify with the democrat party and it's the progressives that need government cheese.

"Rhetoric vs Reality... Democrats vs Republicans." -- Joseph Fried, 2008.

Captialism is not what they're doing on Wall Street and in the crony corporatist economy. It's policy driven.

Fri, 02/11/2011 - 21:36 | 954859 mynhair
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"earn 60% more useful college degrees than liberals do"


Fri, 02/11/2011 - 22:14 | 954930 New_Meat
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"do you want fries with that?"

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