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Your Taxpayer Dollars At Work: San Fran Fed Asks If Structural Unemployment Is On The Rise, Discovers It Isn't

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Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:39 | 709627 homersimpson
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What do you expect when the 9th circuit court is nearby?

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:43 | 709640 Sudden Debt
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Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:51 | 709676 MarketTruth
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Its a SNAP... and thank JP Morgan for being the bankster who operates it.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:04 | 709724 Pool Shark
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Actually, this is what your tax dollars are doing right now (if you can believe it):



Thu, 11/11/2010 - 05:39 | 718932 sub Z
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Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:45 | 709651 Zyroh
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my hindendinger algo shows the fed's moronicity is up 23%.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:21 | 709753 hambone
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Fisher of the Dallas Fed sez it as it is today...

"The Federal Reserve will buy $110 billion a month in Treasuries, an amount that, annualized, represents the projected deficit of the federal government for next year. For the next eight months, the nation’s central bank will be monetizing the federal debt." and it's up to "The Fed is going out of its way to be a good citizen. It is time for the Congress to do the same."


Actual must read below


Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:47 | 709658 Pool Shark
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[Obi Wan Kenobi voice:] "These are not the jobs you're looking for; you can go about your business..."

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:47 | 709661 Hondo
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I'll have to read the report but I'm pretty sure they are going to be using the past to predict the future ......... coming to the conclusion the future will revert to the past.........(This will show the stupidity of modern economic thinking at the FED and what they're teaching in economic doctoral studies........it also will show very clearly why we are in the trouble we're in)

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:49 | 709667 AR15AU
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Just commission 240,000 of these reports each month. Problem solved.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 23:38 | 710503 espirit
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I'll just wait for the final revision of the consensus, if I'm still alive in that many years.

We will gain jobs until everyone is unemployed.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:50 | 709669 mikla
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The remainder is probably associated with the bursting of the residential real estate bubble and the need for many unemployed construction workers to find work in other sectors. The effects of both of these factors are likely to be transitory rather than permanent.

Easy money.  Make up statistics, sound like an idiot.

Now, I'm ready for their "hot stock picks".

Yep, best tax money I ever spent.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:49 | 709670 treemagnet
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Clearly theres no role for ZH in this new utopian world.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 19:33 | 709933 midtowng
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I'm happy that the Fed has told me this. Personally, I was beginning to worry, but not anymore.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:51 | 709673 johngaltfla
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Thank you for reading this so I don't have to. It just goes beyond any sanity any longer.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:55 | 709690 Sudden Debt
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... define "sanity"...

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:52 | 709680 saulysw
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Straight from the ministry of disinformation...

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:54 | 709686 knukles
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It's not structural; it's just permanent. 

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:03 | 709718 traderjoe
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So coupled with the report that higher oil prices are actually good for the economy, we have demonstration that not only do they not know how to fix the economy, the don't even think anything is wrong. Solvency v. liquidity. They will continue to focus on liquidity and drive us all to hyper-inflation. 

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 19:56 | 709971 knukles
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Right-right, double check, yep, spot on, inclusive, and alls well in Whoville.

If there's no problem, there's nothing to be fixed, which therefore demands an excessively enormous and wasteful governmental program.

     See without the problem
     That really T'wasn't, 
     There's nothing wrong,
     With marrying your cousin't.
     When the toddlers,
     Come out looking funny,
     Don't blame the gubamint,
     Blame yer half-bred honey.


Tue, 11/09/2010 - 08:49 | 711350 aarskever
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No, no, you misunderstand. Clearly any 'transitory' effect is irrelevant to experience; therefore, 4% of workers being unable to find work now (and being really poor) is irrelevant. In fact, life is irrelevant -- it too is transitory.

But in the long run, we're all dead, as ZH states. So what is left in between? Is all that is relevant the fact that 'money' exists, but that it is irrelevant who holds it?

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:55 | 709692 truont
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paper authors Rob Valetta and Katherine Kuang conclude that not only are worries about a "new normal" misplaced, but that jobs will promptly revert back to old levels.
Joseph Goebbels would be green with envy after reading this masterpiece...

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 21:36 | 710237 RockyRacoon
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The entire situation is shown in this one very simple graph:


Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:56 | 709693 AccreditedEYE
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PhD caliber work right here.....

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 17:57 | 709699 sagerxx
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PhD?  As in Phreakin' Dumb@$$es?

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 20:06 | 709989 Problem Is
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Once ALL the Fed PhD Economists are unemployed...

Then we can turn the corner on unemployment...

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:03 | 709717 AR15AU
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If your comment was intended to be sarcastic, you failed. PhD calibur work is synonymous with taking out a $200,000 loan for a career in waiting tables and brewing lattes.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:04 | 709723 NumberNone
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C'mon construction workers...you're just not trying hard enough!  Look at all the Fearless Fed has done to make your lives better.  It's time you step it up and find you some jobs!  

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 21:39 | 710241 RockyRacoon
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There just isn't much construction involved in living in a cardboard refrigerator box.

And moving it to a scenic location under the nearest overpass doesn't require much in the way of hydrocarbon consumption.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:05 | 709727 kaiserhoff
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Proving still, yet, again that you don't have be in LA to live in la la land.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:08 | 709738 still kicking
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Obviously I woke up in a parallel universe or dreamworld a couple of years ago where everything is backward.  I'm a little pissed about the idiocracy and fraud but what really really pisses me off is that if this is the parallel universe why in the hell am I still not nailing Kate Beckinsale yet?

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:19 | 709766 PolishHammer
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Gotta be PhD to appreciate and opine on this, you guys don't qualify.


Some Ashok Anand Panshtun from the Fed said it.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:20 | 709768 papaswamp
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As Krugman and Pimpco said in the past...all we need is to create a housing bubble to get out of this problem.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:21 | 709777 Jim Billy Bob J...
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Just an old Oklahoma saying:

"When idiots lead idiots, morons will become wise men"

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:35 | 709805 Crummy
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I was gonna type something about fed employees finding jobs in the bullshit shoveling sector but that reoccurring realization that the world is run by complete morons made me all woozy and I nearly vomited, so I typed about that instead.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:39 | 709815 Kassandra
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And "Palin lashes out at Bernanke". http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/08/palin-tells-bernanke-cease-desist-_n_780419.html

I swear, I am waking up in a new alternate universe every day.....

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 18:40 | 709816 VegasBD
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Thought the FED prices the gold it holds at $42 and change?

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 21:40 | 710249 RockyRacoon
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Yeah, nothing gets marked to market these days....

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 19:25 | 709917 Ancona
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These idiots are obviously government hacks, disguised as educated intelligent people.

Nothing to see here, move along Comrade. The line for circus tickets is to the left, and the line for bread is to the right. Now shut the fuck up and keep moving, or I'll report you to the prefect.

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 22:43 | 710386 Ricky Bobby
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+10 LMAO

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 19:27 | 709920 Ripped Chunk
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And I don't have an alcohol and drug habit.

Boy is that a weight off my mind!

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 20:03 | 709978 Problem Is
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Fed: "All depends on what your definition of "is" is...."

Is unemployment... Is housing bubble... Is devaluing dollar... Is Greenspan Bubble Head... Is Bennie Copter pilot...

Mon, 11/08/2010 - 20:20 | 710017 Rainman
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San Fran ....is that where it's cool to get stoned for free in the At&t bleachers while 5-0 stands feet away....??  Pelosi the biggest export ??  Sanctuary city ?? 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ?? That San Fran Fed ??


Tue, 11/09/2010 - 04:00 | 711091 StychoKiller
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I can't believe no one said it:


"Captain Obvious," Bitchez!!

Tue, 11/09/2010 - 12:39 | 711995 litoralkey
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Michael Mann making mad bank consulting in the statistical analysis field, and he gets to get his rocks off in the Castro district.


Thu, 11/11/2010 - 06:06 | 718941 sub Z
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Your Taxpayer Dollars At Work: San Fran Fed Asks If Structural Unemployment Is On The Rise, Discovers It Is!!!

The current economic recovery is proceeding at a tepid pace despite massive federal fiscal stimulus and extremely low interest rates. Forecasts derived from business cycle indicators produced by the Chicago and Philadelphia Federal Reserve Banks predict that real U.S. GDP growth through the first half of 2011 will remain at or below potential. If these forecasts prove accurate, then the historical relationship between real GDP growth and the labor market suggests that the unemployment rate could rise by as much as 0.5 percentage point during this period.

Recent weaker-than-expected economic data have raised concerns about the recovery’s staying power. In a recent Economic Letter, Berge and Jorda (2010) estimate the probability of falling back into recession during the next two years at around 50%. While discussions in the media often focus on the likelihood of a “double dip,” it is important to recognize that, even if the economy avoids another recession, future real GDP growth may not be strong enough to prevent the unemployment rate from rising. Standard macroeconomic models would predict an increase in the unemployment rate if real GDP growth over the next two to four quarters were to fall below the economy’s potential growth rate, defined as the sum of the long-run trend growth rates of productivity and the labor force. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO 2010) estimates that the U.S. economy’s potential annual growth rate over the next five years is 2.1%. Other estimates of potential growth are significantly higher. If real GDP growth were to fall below potential growth for a sustained period, then the unemployment rate would be expected to rise.


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