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Zero Hedge Proposes John Taylor For The Position Of Chairman Of The Federal Reserve

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A talking point that has gripped the media in light of the sudden weakness ahead of the Ben Bernanke reconfirmation process, is the question of who should succeed the Fed Chairman, should he fail to obtain the requisite number of votes to continue. Many have said "Ben is bad, but anyone that would come after him would likely be even worse." While this is true for any of the potential successors (Donald Kohn, ex-Morgan Stanley banker Kevin Warsh, community-banker Elizabeth Duke, Daniel Tarullo, or ex-Goldmanite Bill Dudley, and speaking of the New York Fed, where Jeff Immelt is a Class B director: did Jamie Dimon, whose membership expired on December 31, 2009, get the Goldman reconfirmation vote?), this is not an exclusive case. Which is why Zero Hedge proposes the candidacy of Stanford economist, and "Taylor Rule" creator, John Taylor for the post of Chairman of the Federal Reserve.

Those who are familiar with Mr. Taylor's body of work, will realize that he possesses the required proactive approach to monetary policy, which for nearly three decades has been absent in the halls of the Marriner S. Eccles building, where ever since the advent of Alan Greenspan, and intensifying with the actions of his successor, policy has been decidedly retroactive -  the most blatant example of which is Ben's action in the aftermath of the Jerome Kerviel SocGen fiasco in January 2008, when the futures market crumbled on what was essentially flawed risk management by a key bank, yet the Fed response was a staggering 75 bps rate cut the same day, a cut that had little to no basis in actual economic conditions, and which Barry Ritholtz called "an historical embarrassment, a blot on the Fed for all its days."

Furthermore, Taylor's recent critical overtures vis-a-vis the interpretation of his rule by the Bernanke syndicate indicates that the economist is well aware of the number one fallacy that determines current Fed decision making - the perpetually flawed "output gap" estimation, which even regional Fed Banks now warn could be a false input when the FOMC determines rates.

Zero Hedge will have more to say on the topic of Mr. Taylor's nomination, however for all those curious as to why Mr. Taylor would provide the much-needed critical approach to monetary policy, we suggest reading Mr. Taylor's WSJ op-ed from February 9, 2009, which puts the blame for the current economic catastrophe where it squarely belongs: government, and the Federal Reserve. Only a person who can see the flaws in the current system, is capable of fixing them. And as we now know, Bernanke's blatant lack of recognition of the consequences of his own actions prompted even the very respected establishmentarian Albert Edwards (ironically, of the abovementioned, and AIG-counterparty bailed out, SocGen), to wonder out loud whether the last 25 years of wealth transfer has been a criminal act enacted with the complicity of global Central Banks.

How Government Created the Financial Crisis

Research shows the failure to rescue Lehman did not trigger the fall panic.

Many are calling for a 9/11-type commission to investigate the financial crisis. Any such investigation should not rule out government itself as a major culprit. My research shows that government actions and interventions -- not any inherent failure or instability of the private economy -- caused, prolonged and dramatically worsened the crisis.

The classic explanation of financial crises is that they are caused by excesses -- frequently monetary excesses -- which lead to a boom and an inevitable bust. This crisis was no different: A housing boom followed by a bust led to defaults, the implosion of mortgages and mortgage-related securities at financial institutions, and resulting financial turmoil.

Monetary excesses were the main cause of the boom. The Fed held its target interest rate, especially in 2003-2005, well below known monetary guidelines that say what good policy should be based on historical experience. Keeping interest rates on the track that worked well in the past two decades, rather than keeping rates so low, would have prevented the boom and the bust. Researchers at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development have provided corroborating evidence from other countries: The greater the degree of monetary excess in a country, the larger was the housing boom.

The effects of the boom and bust were amplified by several complicating factors including the use of subprime and adjustable-rate mortgages, which led to excessive risk taking. There is also evidence the excessive risk taking was encouraged by the excessively low interest rates. Delinquency rates and foreclosure rates are inversely related to housing price inflation. These rates declined rapidly during the years housing prices rose rapidly, likely throwing mortgage underwriting programs off track and misleading many people.
Adjustable-rate, subprime and other mortgages were packed into mortgage-backed securities of great complexity. Rating agencies underestimated the risk of these securities, either because of a lack of competition, poor accountability, or most likely the inherent difficulty in assessing risk due to the complexity.

Other government actions were at play: The government-sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were encouraged to expand and buy mortgage-backed securities, including those formed with the risky subprime mortgages.

Government action also helped prolong the crisis. Consider that the financial crisis became acute on Aug. 9 and 10, 2007, when money-market interest rates rose dramatically. Interest rate spreads, such as the difference between three-month and overnight interbank loans, jumped to unprecedented levels.

Diagnosing the reason for this sudden increase was essential for determining what type of policy response was appropriate. If liquidity was the problem, then providing more liquidity by making borrowing easier at the Federal Reserve discount window, or opening new windows or facilities, would be appropriate. But if counterparty risk was behind the sudden rise in money-market interest rates, then a direct focus on the quality and transparency of the bank's balance sheets would be appropriate.

Early on, policy makers misdiagnosed the crisis as one of liquidity, and prescribed the wrong treatment.

To provide more liquidity, the Fed created the Term Auction Facility (TAF) in December 2007. Its main aim was to reduce interest rate spreads in the money markets and increase the flow of credit. But the TAF did not seem to make much difference. If the reason for the spread was counterparty risk as distinct from liquidity, this is not surprising.

Another early policy response was the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, passed in February. The major part of this package was to send cash totaling over $100 billion to individuals and families so they would have more to spend and thus jump-start consumption and the economy. But people spent little if anything of the temporary rebate (as predicted by Milton Friedman's permanent income theory, which holds that temporary as distinct from permanent increases in income do not lead to significant increases in consumption). Consumption was not jump-started.

A third policy response was the very sharp reduction in the target federal-funds rate to 2% in April 2008 from 5.25% in August 2007. This was sharper than monetary guidelines such as my own Taylor Rule would prescribe. The most noticeable effect of this rate cut was a sharp depreciation of the dollar and a large increase in oil prices. After the start of the crisis, oil prices doubled to over $140 in July 2008, before plummeting back down as expectations of world economic growth declined. But by then the damage of the high oil prices had been done.

After a year of such mistaken prescriptions, the crisis suddenly worsened in September and October 2008. We experienced a serious credit crunch, seriously weakening an economy already suffering from the lingering impact of the oil price hike and housing bust.

Many have argued that the reason for this bad turn was the government's decision not to prevent the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers over the weekend of Sept. 13 and 14. A study of this event suggests that the answer is more complicated and lay elsewhere.

While interest rate spreads increased slightly on Monday, Sept. 15, they stayed in the range observed during the previous year, and remained in that range through the rest of the week. On Friday, Sept. 19, the Treasury announced a rescue package, though not its size or the details. Over the weekend the package was put together, and on Tuesday, Sept. 23, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson testified before the Senate Banking Committee. They introduced the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), saying that it would be $700 billion in size. A short draft of legislation was provided, with no mention of oversight and few restrictions on the use of the funds.

The two men were questioned intensely and the reaction was quite negative, judging by the large volume of critical mail received by many members of Congress. It was following this testimony that one really begins to see the crisis deepening and interest rate spreads widening.

The realization by the public that the government's intervention plan had not been fully thought through, and the official story that the economy was tanking, likely led to the panic seen in the next few weeks. And this was likely amplified by the ad hoc decisions to support some financial institutions and not others and unclear, seemingly fear-based explanations of programs to address the crisis. What was the rationale for intervening with Bear Stearns, then not with Lehman, and then again with AIG? What would guide the operations of the TARP?

It did not have to be this way. To prevent misguided actions in the future, it is urgent that we return to sound principles of monetary policy, basing government interventions on clearly stated diagnoses and predictable frameworks for government actions.

Massive responses with little explanation will probably make things worse. That is the lesson from this crisis so far.

Mr. Taylor, a professor of economics at Stanford and a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, is the author of "Getting Off Track: How Government Actions and Interventions Caused, Prolonged and Worsened the Financial Crisis," published later this month by Hoover Press.

Full John Taylor biography (we won't hold his Princeton tenure against him)

This nomination is unsolicited, Zero Hedge has not held any conversations with Mr. Taylor on the topic, and we will receive absolutely no compensation from this endorsement.


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Sat, 01/23/2010 - 16:08 | 203799 AN0NYM0US
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John Taylor

Bank of Japan

Honorary Adviser, 1994-2001

and a few years later in 2003 this cheery outlook on Japan from Dr. Taylor

In sum, there are clear signs that things have changed in Japan. The building blocks for sustained, robust economic growth are being established. Further reform efforts will be needed across the spectrum of economic policy to ensure stronger growth. As the Koizumi Government continues to implement banking, regulatory, and other reform measures, a brighter economic future is in store.



Sat, 01/23/2010 - 22:13 | 204209 Sancho Ponzi
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You obviously have an agenda. Do you remember Stalag 17? William Holden understood Peter Graves was the Nazi infiltrator because when he received a beating, Graves hit harder than the others. Perhaps next time you will show more finesse.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:10 | 203804 msorense
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Thomas Hoenig would also be a good choice. Of course I'm for abolishing the Fed altogether.  Does nothing but try to keep the rich rich and the poor poor.

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 04:35 | 204335 Anonymous
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Well said. Abolishing the Fed is the best course.

But if that would not happen, then Hoenig would be the best bet according to me too.

In fact it surprises me that his name does not crop up more often.

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 11:52 | 204442 MarketTruth
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The Founding Fathers wrote in the original and still legal documents that guide the United States of America that anyone who devalues the currency is guilty of treason. Such a treasonous act is punishable by death. Since the Federal Reserve is guilty of devaluing the US dollar, the Federal Reserve in whole including their main representatives (Benjamin Shalom Bernanke), board and members may soon be facing a lawsuit for treason. Now that you are aware of this fact, it is time for all Americans to inform their representatives of this fact. Any representative who votes for Benjamin Shalom Bernanke yet knows of this fact is also guilty of aiding treasonous acts against the United States of America. There is a wind of change happening in America, and this wind can not be stopped.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:15 | 203808 George the baby...
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I would agree with the Taylor nomination as he seems less dishonest then others.  But I can't for my life believe that the puppet masters of this private entity which is the FED, would let a nonconformist run their show.  As much as I would like to believe that a single man can make a difference, I'm a realist, which cushions me from disappointment.  And Tyler I'm glad we're not totally down on Princeton, they helped form Mr Taylor in some respect I presume.


Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:05 | 203887 Dirtt
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Doesn't that suck.  At such a critical juncture the fate of the USA is at stake.


POTUS could finally deliver the first chapter of "Hope & Change" right here right now. Yeah.  When Pigs Fly....

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:58 | 203924 George the baby...
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Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:17 | 203811 strike for retu...
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There are so many able alternatives to Bernanke. 

One requirement should be that the person has actually run a real business.  (Running a govt.-connected hedge fund that makes money by front running its clients, including the govt, is not a real business.  That is running a criminal enterprise such as the vampire squid is not a qualification anymore than being Wilie Sutton is a qualification.)

Another equally important requirement is that the new person not be connected with failures of the past.  Greenspan, Bernanke and the others connected with past Treserve policy have made a lot of mistakes.  It is human nature to try to hide your errors instead of working to do what is right.  (And since many of those "mistakes" may very well be criminal, there is even more reason to try to cover up.  Stephen Friedman, your name comes to mind.)

It is early enough in Obama's administration that he can make a clean sweep.  He can do what is right for the USA (and the constitution) or he can continue to be another lackey of the vampire squid.  It is early enough into his presidency that his current mistakes can be forgiven as those of an inexperienced new President.  However, if those mistakes continue then history will list him as just another of those who sold their soul to the vampire squid and its master.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:16 | 203812 greased up deaf guy
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ot... sort of... fight club currently airing on bravo ;).

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:16 | 203814 Chopshop
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i nominate Tigger Woods:

cause a FED chairman ought be rather squeamish and visibly awkward when fj*ck*ng everyone under the sun with a dumbass grin from ear to ear.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:19 | 203819 damage
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This guy sounds like a good choice, much better than Volcker.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:46 | 203834 Anonymous
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END THE FED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(No NEW chairman NEEDED)

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:51 | 203837 Anonymous
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It doesn't matter who the fed chairman is or what the fed does. The financial system is hosed. Short everything.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:57 | 203839 Anonymous
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Might be a long shot, but why not Paul Volcker. We need a strict disciplinarian heading the Fed, once and for all burying the Greenspan/Bernanke put. John Taylor is a great candidate, but putting Volcker will result in stable long term interest rates and a strong dollar. There will be fewer instances of financial euphoria/bubbles, which will result in more efficient allocation of capital.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:47 | 203875 Silver Bullet
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I agree. Putting Volcker back in would be seen by the entire world as the US being bullish on the $$$.

The dollar would spike almost immdiately.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:14 | 203891 strike for retu...
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It is too early to play the Volcker card, and he is smart enough to wait until things have gone thoroughly haywire. 

To put Volcker in now would merely be to position him as the scapegoat for the collapse of the US economy.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:43 | 203911 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Volcker has already said, politely, in so many words that he is "too old for this shit". He seems willing to advise, which perhaps is enough.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 13:59 | 203842 rubearish10
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You guys really don't think Helicopter Ben gets booted, do ya? That would mean our ballsless politicians really want to make a death defying statement "for the people". What your seeing right now is "more noise" from Congress and Mr Bamma despite the "real message" from Mass. voters last week. Unfortunately, we're in another shallow market correction and we'll continue to grind ever so higher until the System cracks again. In either scenario (real change or not) , we'll have another major market event and see lower lows....Poof!

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:02 | 203843 Heroic Couplet
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The hold on Bernanke's confirmation would have been the perfect 2-3 week time to audit the Fed then end it, and thus remove any need for a confirmation. If the private bank cartel AKA the Fed Reserve wants to reign, kick them off the North American continent and let them reign someplace else.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:03 | 203844 Anonymous
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Bennie is an idiot. He shouldn't have been renominated. The decision to renominate Ben reflects badly on Obama, Mr. Progressive, now Mr. Populist. It just shows that Obama is an idiot too. The non-confirmation of Ben would a very big no confidence vote on Obama. Just one of a continuing series of no confidence events; the Mass election being the most recent. Obama can orate, but he can't lead. 2012 can't come fast enough.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:04 | 203846 AN0NYM0US
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 July 24 (Bloomberg) -- John Taylor has a message for economists who say Ben S. Bernanke is ignoring a benchmark guide for interest rates: They’re wrong.

Taylor said his measure shows just the opposite: that Fed policy is appropriate, that central bankers are right to be considering how to withdraw their unprecedented monetary stimulus and that critics who say otherwise are misinterpreting his rule. The formula is designed to show the best rate for spurring growth without stoking inflation.


Taylor himself said there’s evidence the Fed is correctly applying his formula. He said that economists who call for negative interest rates are using projections to apply the rule in ways he never intended.


Taylor’s Codicil

“The Taylor rule says what the interest rate should be now, given current numbers,” not forecasts, he said.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 22:16 | 204210 Sancho Ponzi
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You, sir/madam, are a gutless, spineless tool.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:05 | 203848 What_Me_Worry
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My 1-year old is a better choice than Bernanke.  At least she occasionally understands when she did something wrong.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 17:11 | 203971 Problem Is
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They both crap in their pants and stink up our house's daily... no disrespect to your 1 year old intended W_M_W...

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 12:02 | 204449 FreakuentFlyer
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i take it, you guys adopted?

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 12:49 | 204493 Anonymous
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Uh huh the kiss of death Sunday headline "Obama
'confident' of repeat Fed term for Bernanke."-

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:11 | 203853 Anonymous
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Might I also suggest Arthur Liebehenschel: proven - along with a background in economics and public administration.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:19 | 203856 AN0NYM0US
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John Taylor Praises Greenspan

from a speech Taylor gave at Jackson Hole in 2005


"No matter what metric you use the Greenspan era gets exceedingly high marks for economic performance. The era will always be remembered for its price stability—with declining and now low, stable inflation—and for its economic stability—with only two historically short, mild recessions and three long expansions. An indication of how different things are in the Greenspan era is that the current expansion is already one of the longest in American history."

He goes on basically praising Greenspan and his policies


Alan Greenspan has had an important role in the G7 meetings of central bank governors and finance ministers, always a voice of reason, always stressing goodeconomic policy principles. He has been involved in exchange rate issues, including diplomatic efforts on the Chinese currency peg, and problems relating to current account adjustment. He has worked on IMF reform, including finding innovative ways to clarify the limits on exceptional access with an overall budget constraint. I believe that these efforts have not been emphasized enough by historians of the period; the efforts have contributed greatly to the improved economic performance of the world economy, and thereby the United States economy, in recent years. That there was no contagion from the Argentine default made it unnecessary even to consider whether a cut in interest rates in the United States was needed, as in the case of contagion following the Russian default. Clearly it is better that there was no contagion in the first place than to have had to deal with the damage, especially in the weeks after 9/11.

Concluding Remarks: Principles and Leadership

In conclusion, I believe that the lessons learned from the successful economic performance of the Greenspan era...

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 19:51 | 204104 Orly
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So now we're going to Trent Lott the guy for saying kind words about a relic of the boom times?

Somehow, it doesn't seem fair to use his kind words for someone else against him when what he was saying had nothing with his own theories and ideas.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:15 | 203857 Anonymous
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I vote for Ron Paul to replace Bernanke. He would dismantle it faster.

After all, it doesn't matter who's in charge. Central banking is fundamentally flawed.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:40 | 203908 CB
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it's very doubtful RP would accept the position.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 17:02 | 203964 Anonymous
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RP would do it in a hearbeat. Bring down the house from the inside. If there's one man I would trust to do it - it would be Ron Paul.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 19:33 | 204087 grunk
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Can you imagine the document dump Ron Paul would do before they bagged him? 

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:38 | 203865 Careless Whisper
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(we won't hold his Princeton tenure against him)

I would.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:40 | 203867 10044
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And I propose to get rid of the fcking monster by passing HR1207.
Btw, does Mr Taylor belong to the CFR, TriLat or the Bilderberg?? If not, he's got no chance...

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:45 | 203871 Seal
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This is the response I got complaining about Greenscum’s then persistently low-interest rate policies. Congress – AND THE AMERICAN POPULACE – wanting the seeming something for nothing provided by a Federal Reserve that has monetized two centuries of American goodwill, are equally to blame for the downfall of the American empire.


The United States Senate

7 April 2004

Dear Mr. B…………………

As chairman of the US Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee I will continue to monitor interest rates and their effect on the economy. I am, however, confident in chairman Greenspan’s strong leadership and his aggressive efforts to grow and bolster the economy………

Richard Shelby


On to the future: Tighten your seatbelts people!

“The wavelike movement affecting the economic system, the recurrence of periods of boom which are followed by periods of depression [recession], is the unavoidable outcome of the attempts, repeated again and again, to lower the gross market interest by means of credit expansion. There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of the boom expansion brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of voluntary abandonment of further expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.” Ludwig von Mises




Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:56 | 203873 Unscarred
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Initially, I love this nomination.  Taylor wrote the first economic text I ever read in high school, and around that same time I learned that his name was on the short list to follow Greenspan.

After reading a number of his recent op-eds, however, I wonder how rigid he would be with respect to conducting policy explicitly by his own 'Taylor Rule'.  His arguments have been consistently inflexible concerning the application of his rule, and while his arguments have been quite compelling, I openly wonder if there is a situation that could arise where the Taylor Rule could serve more harm than good.

It's a bit difficult on the ego to have a well-known monetary policy named after you, only to deviate from it while serving as the chairman of the most important policy committee in the world.  And while I like the direction that ZH is looking, he may be a bit too far right-leaning to get his nomination through this Senate.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:26 | 203900 AN0NYM0US
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the nice thing about a "rule" is that it works until it doesn't, at least that seems to be the way Taylor defends his namesake, as Taylor writes:

One of the advantages of rules is that they reduce arbitrary discretion and add predictability to monetary policy decisions. Predictability is a major factor in favor of rules, but if one changes the rules too much or too frequently, it creates instability.

So I say stick with the rule that worked.




Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:47 | 203913 Unscarred
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Sounds like "Fedspeak" for "Damn the torpetoes, full speed ahead!"  He's ready.

Thanks for the link.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 14:51 | 203877 Anonymous
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Perhaps another consideation is that the task at hand is not just the FED changes.....but tax structure changes....

After one reviews the tax structure of the BRIC countries will quickly realize that in order for the US to reinvent itself...the complete tax structure HAS to change....

Otherwise most other efforts will be a total waste of time....

Real Estate should not have as a major portion of its price due to tax deductions of various types.....

There should be no individual or corporate be completely replaced by a sole 15% consumption tax to be divided between the FED and the STATES....via STATE mandates....

If you do not believe this is the case ....then I would advise/challenge any politician or economist to prove otherwise....

One can construe a simple briefing by examining the BRIC rates and then in consideration of the current economic needs and conditions in the US ....this venue would be the most efficient and effective form of sustainable type recovery means....

The most important effect would be the huge increases in securities valuations which are one of the best means to lever and distribute wealth....Even Greenspan has mentioned this....

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 04:27 | 204331 theadr
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Just eliminate the interest rate deduction for corporations and home loans for individuals; that'll surely fix our banking problem once and for all.  Of course don't let it transpire until let's say FYB 10/01/16.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:24 | 203898 Segestan
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Best man for the Job: Edward N. Luttwak. Director of Geo-economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies of Washington D.C. and an International Associate at the Institute of Fiscal and Monetary Poicy of Japans Ministry of Finance as served on National Security Council , the White House Chief of Staff , the State Department , and the Department of Defense. Is an acclaimed Historian.


 Just saying.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:26 | 203901 Anonymous
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The current administration seems to pull Volcker out of the closet and dust him off whenever they want to look fiscally responsible. Exhibit 1: the presidential election. Exhibit 2: last week when it looked like their support for Bernanke was unpopular.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:42 | 203909 CB
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doesn't matter who's in charge because central banking lends itself to corruption no matter who's at the helm. It's the job of the people running it to favor the banks no matter what the stated purpose of a central bank is.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 15:52 | 203920 George the baby...
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The fox guarding the chickens.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 16:00 | 203925 Anonymous
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My nominee? Simon Johnson of MIT and formerly Chief Economist at the International Monetary Fund. Experienced in dealing with financial crises, banana republics and failed states.

We're starting Primary Wave 3 down, folks; that's DOW 1,000. Do you really care who's Fed Chairman?

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 16:33 | 203943 the.spear
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I'm sorry, this is just stupid. We all know what the fed says it is and what the fed really is. If people like us can analyze its actions and recognize the fallacy and idiocy of its actions throughout its history - even if we only took a sample ten year period at literally any one point - then what good comes from proposing a candidate? I should really say, what could this person actually do that wouldn't be contrary to the long-term interests of 99.9% of every human being on this planet as opposed the 0.1% (of human pop) of the Fed's owners and beneficiaries?

On this website we have repeatedly exposed the Fed's illegitimacy and the immeasurable damage it has done to the US economy, the world economy, and the people's of these.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 16:48 | 203953 Anonymous
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Sun, 01/24/2010 - 04:30 | 204332 theadr
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Walmart Corporation for President in 2012; that way they can finally become a bank holding corp. like they wanna.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 17:00 | 203962 Anonymous
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I never thought I would ever agree with Barbara Bouncer Boxer. But I agree with a portion of her statement regarding Ben, the part about he should not be confirmed. I'm still not going to vote for Babs however. Oops, sorry... I mean I'm not going to vote for SENATOR Babs. Did she make her statement months ago when the renomination was not yet anounced? I'm sure Timmie and Summers and Senator Doo Doo Dodd were advising Barry not to change horses in the middle of the stream and Ben's an expert on the Depression you know. Markets would react negatively to Ben being fired. But guess what? Markets are going to go down anyway. If Ben was such an expert, he would know what caused the depression and would have spent the last 10 years advocating policies that didn't create the overleveraged mess that we have. Ben is a tool.

p.s. Spear made the best point anyway, which should be the end of the discussion. The ultimate goal of the fed is to protect the banks. It doesn't matter who the chairman is.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 17:31 | 203991 Anonymous
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I pass on this link from Roubini; scroll down past halfway to read Mark Thoma on John Taylor:

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 20:05 | 204114 AN0NYM0US
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here is the excerpt from Roubini


  • This, from John Taylor, is just sad:  

    "[N]ot one counterparty, derivative counterparty to Lehman, filed for bankruptcy after the Lehman case. The major creditors who did not fail. So it's hard to find a direct knock on effects from that in the data."

What?! First of all, Lehman's biggest derivatives counterparties — the other dealers — were virtually all bailed out by their governments. Second of all, there were lots of hedge funds that failed because of their open derivatives positions with Lehman, and especially with Lehman Brothers International (Europe). The fact that John Taylor didn't know about these hedge fund liquidations at the time doesn't mean they never occurred. They occurred. Oh believe me, they occurred.


Sun, 01/24/2010 - 10:44 | 204407 Hephasteus
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Ya but that messes up the focus of the point so just leave it out.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 17:59 | 204012 Ruth
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Dear Mr. President,

Please take some advice from the politically 'non-connected', 'not involved in creating the current and past problems', 'hey, these guys are for transparency' zh'ers here.

We all know Tyler(s) and Marla are pretty smart and have a good sense of what the connectedness, lack of transparency and honesty will get you!

Do yourself and the American People a favor. 

Give War (against the Squid) A Chance.




Sat, 01/23/2010 - 18:21 | 204029 Anonymous
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Richard Fisher would be an ideal choice for Fed Chairman. He acknowledges being a disciple of Paul Volcker and was one of the loudest voices against debt monetization that the Fed ultimately pursued.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 18:23 | 204031 Anonymous
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"Monetary excesses were the main cause of the boom. The Fed held its target interest rate, especially in 2003-2005, well below known monetary guidelines that say what good policy should be based on historical experience"

Greenspan stated that he tried to raise the long term interest rate during that period but foreign demand for treasuries keep the interest low. Taylor says nothing about how international flows could affect the money supply.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 18:25 | 204033 Anonymous
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Bernankes going to win. Geitner is on the phone with the Senate trying to get Senate support. Its all about the markets. What about the people? I give up

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 18:36 | 204045 Anonymous
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"which puts the blame for the current economic catastrophe where it squarely belongs: government, and the Federal Reserve."

Tyler and Taylor-Hoover anti-government hacks. Poor WallStreet was just a victim of circumstances.

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 01:22 | 204291 faustian bargain
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In case you haven't been reading much here, the general consensus at ZH seems to be the Fed is Wall Street.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 19:41 | 204064 pros
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Taylor has been out of the loop, and "out of it" generally, for quite a while,


and has always been a consummate insider-at least as beholden as Bernanke.

Even if there is theoretical validity to his "rule"(doubtful when you really get into it and all the "expectations" hocus-pocus), what makes you think he would follow it as Fed Chairman?

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 20:28 | 204133 CB
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I am troubled that Zero Hedge thinks Taylor would make a difference.  Central Banks are by design corrupt.  No one person would be able to be a benevolent fed chariman.  Give me a break. The troubles we reap are brought on by central banking, centrally managed/planned economies - no matter who is at the helm.  blah.  I'm so disappointed in you Tyler!

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 20:29 | 204134 Anonymous
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+ 20 I like it. It started here.

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 21:12 | 204170 gunsmoke011
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I would like to see James Grant

Sat, 01/23/2010 - 22:26 | 204220 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Sat, 01/23/2010 - 23:02 | 204237 Anonymous
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Let's cut the crap - nominate Bill Back

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 01:40 | 204297 Rick64
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Personally I would like to see somebody that isn't interlinked with the government and big banks. Somebody like William K. Black with some common sense and not a market wizard like greenspan and the others.

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 01:52 | 204301 macosaurous
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You do understand the Vampire Squid provides the "Chief Executive" with a short list of maybe 10 names.  Unfortunately, the first, last and middle intials are the same.  If Obama picks the right name, he will continue to be "Chief Executive" for another day.

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 02:08 | 204307 Rick64
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Yea just hoping

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 03:51 | 204327 mock turtle
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i guess im not so smart

reading those names of recommended fed chair nominees i question if some, however well qualified, are legally eligible

does not the banking act of 1935 state that the prez must nominate a fed chair from the list of incumbent members of the board of governors?

baring vacant positions, that would limit the president to picking one from a list of seven people


Sun, 01/24/2010 - 05:32 | 204341 Anonymous
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You're correct. However, one of their terms expires on Jan 31st of each even-numbered year. Hence, Obama could appoint (subject to Senate confirmation) a new member and name him/her Chair.

I'd prefer no Fed but I don't see that happening. (I agree with the observers above who say that even the best Chairperson will not be able to accomplish much because the Fed is designed to work for banks, not the public.) If we have a Fed, I'd prefer that its regulatory functions be split off onto another entity. I don't see that happening either.

If we're going to have a Fed and if its regulatory functions are not split off, I'd prefer a regulator like Wm. Black or Brooksley Born as the Fed Chair. I think that would play well with the public but not with TPTB.

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 11:43 | 204434 order6102
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Volker for Fed Chief and Reagan for President! Impeach Obama and Ben! and while at it, lets resurrect Hayami!

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 12:13 | 204456 FreakuentFlyer
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Feb. 2009 - i'd say that would be some hindsight-is-20/20?


do we have a candidate who was proposing different course of action, time and again, before summer of 2007, before Bear Stearns and before the Lehman-AIG?

Sun, 01/24/2010 - 13:24 | 204526 Anonymous
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time to think out of the box friends.
Martin Armstrong for Chairman.

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