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Zero Hedge Video Analysis Reveals Paintball Guns, Secret Turkish Weapon
Tellingly, a number of commentators on the recent "Gaza Flotilla" kerfuffle, including some right here on Zero Hedge, appear to have fallen prey to the seductive wiles of the Palestinian (and now Turkish) propaganda ministry, painting the Israeli Defense Forces as a "go in guns blazing" murder squad victimizing a few, poor, international protesters on an innocent blockade runner on a diplomatic mission that absolutely, positively did not intercept those transmissions. True, it seemed quite unlikely that the IDF would board a blockade runner ("Darth Vader. Only you could be so bold.") with just paintball guns, but exclusive Zero Hedge analysis can now reveal that not only did IDF forces board the Mavi Marmara with sidearms holstered and only paint ball guns as their primary weapons, but, in what must be the most significant Israeli intelligence failure in decades, they were unwittingly lured into facing a historic and potent enemy they could not hope to vanquish with colored ink.
We refer, of course, to Turkish cavalry.
While surely unconventional to deploy at sea, Turkish cavalry has commanded fear and respect since the Battle of Bapheus in 1302, and, in more contemporary times, in the Greco-Turkish war between 1919 and 1922, most notably in the Battle of Dumlup?nar, finally vanquishing the Greek presence in Anatolia.
Indeed, had we not seen the video with our own eyes, it would be difficult to credit the addition of Marine Cavalry units to the asymmetric order of battle facing the IDF, but the video evidence is incontrovertible. Our frame by frame analysis of IDF provided video clearly shows the presence of feared Turkish Marine Cavalry on board the Mavi Marmara.
Frame-by-Frame Slow Motion Analysis
IDF Member with Paintball Gun
Dreaded Turkish Cavalry
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Give someone enough rope and they will eventually hang themselves.
Marla's pseudo-intellectualism finally gets exposed. True intellect is like water, in the end it always finds its own level.
Pseudo-intellectualism I can live with, I have gotten used it on this site, what I find disgusting is the complete insensitivity to the loss of innocent life. You missed your calling Marla, you should have enlisted in the US Army.
What utter trash!
Please point out the innocents.
.."please point out the innocents". Porque you fucking russian? So you can tell mossad? Eye for an eye will not go quietly.
With respect to those offended by this, if I want my content filtered by some greater moral authority i will go back to CNBC, CNN, FT etc.
If you're offended by this fine, its your right, I like zerohedge because it treats me like an adult who can work out what he wants to view and Marla can do whatever she wants in my book, or maybe she should run things by you first to see if you're ok with it? After all its just a little censorship right? Just a little sensitivity required then you'd approve after all...
So with respect to your opinion and reaction to this article, i don't care if you're offended and feel free to exercise your option not to log in tomorrow.
Marla, rock on girl.
PS i thought it was funny, judge away
+1
I'd feel better about this if the Israeli forces didn't jam all communication. The only version / video we'll get is what the IDF will allow out, and their history of selectiveness is well known to fall dramtically in the camp of save Israel at all costs. Of course, that is their Job.
Let the sun shine in. Unless, of course, what you're up to is perhaps not really sunshine, but the other.
No one said anything about censorship. You did.
The piece is insensitive. It reflects the author's lack of concern over human rights abuses and war crimes.
This is not conjecture.
I am Chumbawamba.
Why does it matter if its insensitive? Why does she have to care about human rights abuses and war crimes? Cant' she make up her own mind on the matter? Who are you to judge?
On the flip side you're free to express your displeasure in any way you want. But calls that she shouldn't have posted it piss me off.
She can post anything she wants, and you can self regulate by not coming back to this site if you find enough of the content offensive.
I am so sick of people imposing their moral values on other people.
"This piece is insensitive."
This means precisely nothing coming from the likes of you. Less than nothing, even. This is actually not conjecture; your own words prove it. Your worthless opinion, however, doesn't even rise to the level of conjecture. See the difference? Of course not, you're Chumbawamba.
Heil Chumba
+1
Never bring a paintball gun to a ...
I was very upset by the actions of the ID one time and my father (who served in Korea) asked me if I had ever been surronded by people attempting to kill me. when I said no he then told me to shut the fuck up.
Meaning: It is hard for me to say something whe I have never experienced being in that situation. Some things become clear though.
1) it would appear the incident was a kind of set up for the IDF to influence world opinion.
2)regardless of one's view it would appear the IDF attempted to limit the loss of life. after all they could have just sunk the ships. We kill with drones without a foot on the ground, so This is clearly the more humane way of action.
3)I don't think there is an answer to the problem. some leadership of the palestinian people depend on their oppression to remain in power. hence they want to keep the siutaion unstable. Many regimes in the arab world use the irsael palestine problem as an excuse to keep their own people oppressed. In effect I believe we create an "enemy" to justify our military budget.
4) When Israel goes into Gaza to stop the rockets they get hammered as causing genocide. if this is the case then a blockade is justified. You can't hamstring the actions one way then not allow others. I try to imagine if we had hostile forces on ur boarder and how we would react. I don't think the US would show much restraint.
5) let us not forget that britian did block access to palestine themselves. they prevented victoms of pogroms from entering palestines, boarded ships, and killed people.
6) I aks that people look into the context of their entire world view. Is your country's hand clean, and have you endorsed actions of your own authorites for more disturbing things whie lashing out at other country's
7) I make no position of right or wrong on the episode. I do ask that people attempt to be consistent in their analysis. I am glad I don't have to board vessels at sea with hostiles on board with a paint ball gun. I am fairly sure if I had a gun and there was a mob of people attacking me I would have pulled it and used it if I believed my life to be in danger. regardless if I was given permission to do so by my higher ups.
∞ +1
They could have sunk the ships? For really? You seem to believe that Israel can do what ever they wish, whenever they wish. Can the IDF go into your home and Rape your daughter?
Stay consistent pan. This conversation is about how you defend your bedroom when the rapist is coming to you. The conversation is not about you being the rapist and intruding into someone else's bedroom. Saying that one has a right to do whatever it takes to defend their front door is not the same as saying that one has the right to try to breach someone else's front door. But then, I think you already understand this.
You misunderstand the analogy.
The point is lawlessness.
Problem is for Israel, and always will be, is that it is (and always will be) a Colony of mostly Europeans (and Russians and Americans) established in 1949, a time when Colonialism just about clearly on the way out. 60 year old colonies? Based on religion (and functionally race)? The moderate Zionists of the early 20th century saw this problem head on, but were over-ridden by the more radical types who themselves used terorism to found their nation. Good luck with this as a legacy, and for land that is basically barren. Will always be a $$$ drain.
2000 year old biblical era claims to property? Hell, the Romans owe me (via my ancestors) some property Europe. (E.G. Lunatic Fat Chance I'll be getting any)
8) The US uses the Israel/Palestine"problem" as a way to keep its foot in the Middle East so it can always claim a legitimate reason to be invading this Arab country or that.
9) Maybe it's time to question why, again, Israel feels a need to keep 1.5 million people penned up like animals in a small strip of land.
10) People undereducated in the manner shouldn't make bullet lists displaying their ignorance for all to see. When you attempt to rationalize the irrational then you really don't understand the issue and should not attempt to comment until you've done the requisite research.
I am Chumbawamba.
" Maybe it's time to question why, again, Israel feels a need to keep 1.5 million people penned up like animals in a small strip of land."
Israel Learned From History
Because rabid Zionists like Netan--yahoooo learned from WW2 the benefits of nationalism, militarism, scapegoating and "internment camps" as social control and manufacturing consent for your right wing fascist regime... from the Nazi's...
I am not Chumbawamba... but I hear you...
I find the ignorance here appalling. Israel is blockading the Hamas Government in Gaza. As is Egypt. The blockade is to prevent arms from being shipped to Hamas. The "humanitarians" were offered safe passage of their "aide" providing that it was inspected. They refused. They were told if they where to try to get the "aide" to Gaza, they would be stopped. This is nothing more than a media stunt ala Greenpeace, set up to make Isreal look bad.
It looks to me like a lotta sheeple bought into the sharade, or is that "Shareaide".
The "humanitarians" were offered safe passage of their "aide" providing that it was inspected.
The israelis will confiscate the aid. It may not surprise you to learn that many people in Gaza are maimed for life. Of these men women and children who have been maimed by israeli-fired munitions, some can not walk, have no legs. The boats were carrying mechanized wheelchairs. The israelis will say ... these have military application!!
And will not allow them in.
I think PVC for sewage and water are also disallowed.
Yes they could get cement if the israelis issue a permit for an approved project. The catch is the duplicitous israelis sit on the permits. It's a form of slow torture.
I think we've seen how Israel offers safe passage of aide into Gaza. The Arab children fantacize about drinking clean water everyday while they shoot at unarmed Palestinians who come within a half mile of the Israel border. That's what the Israeli government terms "safe passage"
"9) Maybe it's time to question why, again, Israel feels a need to keep 1.5 million people penned up like animals in a small strip of land."
Same reason blacks abuse within thier family because when really horrible things happen to people they tend to propagate it to a different target. Surprise you do something horrible to a large group of people and it doesn't just end. But instead of the original abuser being targeted it somehow get's dealt with by a completely different group or back at the original members of the group.
The gaza strip should have JP Morgan and a few other bankers who were spending 20 billion a day buying weapons for hitler to run around and hurt people. But instead it has palestines who did nothing.
don't forget Prescott Bush
Heil Chumba
I'm not really sure I understand the point you're trying to make here. Sending a bunch of Sending commandos armed with paintball guns and orders not to shoot onto a ship full of hostiles is clearly idiotic. You'd have to have rocks for brains (as all politicians do) to order anyone to do that. Similarly, you have to be a full-on fanatic freak to actually follow those idiotic orders. The whole incident seems designed from the beginning to cause an escalation in force.
What it all comes down to is a battle between tribes. If your tribe isn't brutal enough, it will lose to one that is.
Come on people, are you all really buying the absurd paintball story? I don't believe there is any military/police force in the world equipped with airsoft much less the IDF. It's patently ridiculous. A large number of people on board that vessel were shot and killed, supposedly by the soldiers side arms after their paintball guns proved (surprisingly?) ineffective for crowd control. LOL. Marla's piece is not insensitive, she is merely meeting monumental absurdism with its equal.
In Seattle they had paintball ammo filled with CN.
Still "less than lethal" but pretty fucking painful.
it's a night vision scope on top of a standard weapon. OMFG.
Edit: apparently it is NOT NV; ABC Australia is reporting that [some] IDF forces were equipped with paintball guns.
That's like saying because I didn't vote (I no longer consent to be governed) I have to shut the fuck up on politics for the next four years.
Total War because of some joke rockets that hit random spots of dirt most of the time? Intentional use of white phosphorus on a civilian population - how can their be any justification whatsoever? They attacked UN structures. "Oops! But we have a right to exist!"
We do have hostile forces on our border and they flow almost freely with their drugs into every corner of this country. US border enforcement is hilarious.
I do not endorse the mass murderers in DC - I am not responsible for what the military-industrial complex does.
This wasn't self-defense. It was piracy and the people on board had the right to repel the IDF by any means necessary. And doing so resulted in the same lop-sided result of civilian casualties. "We have a right to exist!"
First of all, ignoring all of the other crap you're throwing around, what does insensitivity have to do with intellectualism or pseudo-intellectualism at all?
It's not like speaking about the incident with kid gloves gives any more credence to any side of any argument. There is not a winner here. Neither Israel nor Turkey, nor palestinians can call this a victory.
It happened. No matter what you say about it, joke about it, bow your head about it, it happened. Might as well make the best of it and joke about it.
+1000
The only 'trash' I have seen is your comment.
hmmm... serves well to describe your comment.
For it is what it is freak.
Get over yourself.
Peon.
Bring in the fawning sycophants!
I am Chumbawamba.
Heil Chumba
Give someone enough rope and they will eventually hang themselves.
Yeah! The Captain of the Fortilla held the rope.
It doesn't take much intelligence to see reality. Israel gave instruction to the Flotilla as to where to unload their cargo, however the Captain of the Flotilla self willed it, and the Flotilla paid the consequences, but only after the Commando's were attacked with clubs, knives, and guns.
People can do anything they want if they are willing to pay the consequences.
You cannot always protect stupidity especially when it involves bad decision making.
Intelligence is over rated, especially when it trumps common sense.
That assumes I'm a U.S. citizen.
Legal residency actually is good enough and has been since the Revolution.
Sorry Marla, tricks are for kids (or hookers).
Eyewitnesses recount Israel flotilla raid (June 1, 2010 - CNN)Hanin Zoabi, a member of the Israeli parliament, was on board the Miva Marmara, the ship that was the scene of a confrontation between activists and Israeli soldiers. That clash left at least nine people dead.
The Israeli Navy fired on the ships five minutes before commandos descended from ropes that dangled from helicopters, Zoabi said during a press conference in Nazareth, Israel. She said passengers on board the ship were unarmed.
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Zoabi said she believes Israel has video footage of how the ten passengers were killed, and she called on Israeli authorities to release that footage.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/01/gaza.raid.eyewitnesses/?hpt=T2
Obviously,Sweatts, you've never heard of a warning shot across the bow. If they'd wanted to hit them, they'd have hit them.
'Warning shots'? In international waters? You seriously stated that? What a vapid consumer of my valuable oxygen that you just illustrated yourself to be. Keep telling yourself that 'denial' and 'ignorance' are happy places. It seems to be working well for you.
If they'd wanted to hit them, they'd have hit them.
Ah, they did hit them. Nine of them are dead. Many more are wounded.
Knowledge is power, and facts are important. Shapes are telling:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/riflescopenight.html
http://www.opticsplanet.net/atn-thor-3-thermal-imaging-weapon-sight-tiws...
Edit: apparently the pictures linked by Marla may actually be paintball guns; ABC Australia is reporting this.
OMG, it's the Lochness Monster!
Either it is Nessie indeed, or a camel which escaped from some kind of Turkish rape room.
Chumba, you've fallen prey to the seductive wiles of the Palestinian propaganda LOL
Shhhh, the members of the IIDL (Israel Internet Defense League) are lurking.
You just have to look at it from Marla's point of view.
Singer---nice Irish name??? (wink wink)
George, I'm guessing you're not real good with sarcasm. Are you of German descent by any chance? Just asking, because my inlaws are, and they don't really get sarcasm either.
i am german and get "sarcasm" usually a day later.
I have that same problem...
You are everything that is wrong with the internet.
We are not allowed to have a difference of opinion on the internet?
You are allowed to assert the earth is flat, if you like. Just don't whine when we dismiss you out of hand as an idiot. Ditto any sort of knee-jerk reaction that demonstrates such a deep rooted lack of finesse or sense of satire that you can fairly be said to be "Everything that is wrong with the internet." I'll leave your total failure to grasp even the most basic tenants of logical argument for a later date.
Friggin hilarious Marla!! Top drawer!!
Friggin hilarious when 19 people died.
You guys are truly sick fucks.
Your piece was in very bad taste Marla. People died FFS.
Thanks Taraxias.
People did'nt die. Martyrs died. Big diff. BTW, when was the last time you were beaten senseless by a turkey drumstick? I'd venture about 2 hours ago.
Pot.
Kettle.
Let me introduce you, and guess what?
Go ahead and call yourselves, 'Black'.
Let's digress for a moment ... get over yourself ... peon.
Fucking Top drawer? WTF? Bloody hell? Cheery oh then...beyond petroleum? right.
I seriously thought that Zero was a safe haven for those tired of the "Sensitivity Dipshits..." This discussion will really separate the wheat from the chaff. I have been profoundly disappointed to see such emotion and lack of reason throughout this series of threads...
Chumba, I will "Heil" you until you wither away and suffocate in your own obvious, pure, unadultrated, unrefined, immature, unreasonable, unexplainable Hitleresque hatred. You *should* be grown-up enough to understand that you can't have a discussion the calibre of which you are trying to engage on a forum such as this. Imbecile. I credit both people who agree with you for at least not trying to escalate this rhetoric you are so recklessly spewing forth.
Now: the natural reaction from you to this missive will be to say "#*$& you" , or, "#*$& that", or some such equivalent intellectually honest submission. I would admonish all readers to study the source.
I'll leave your total failure to grasp even the most basic tenants of logical argument for a later date.
Hey, I'll happily grasp those tenants if you'll tell me where they live. If you're talking about the tenets of an argument - well, that's something else altogether.
But seriously - according to the Jewish Encyclopedia, there were about 13 million total Jews in the world in 2006. Let's be generous, and say they were off by about 100%, and there's actually 25 million Jews.
That's less than 1/4 of 1% of the people in the world. I'm not anti-Semitic; I'm Semitic-weary.Why does every newspaper, every news broadcast, every blog have to lead with whatever trials and tribulations the Jews faced today? I mean, 83 people die in a train wreck in India, and it gets a paragraph in my local broadsheet. A "suicide donkey" gets blown up in Israel (with no casualties), and it gets three columns. It's like the boy who cried "Wolf" - after a while, the rest of us just stop listening.
Sure, I support Israel, and the right of the Jews to a homeland. I don't support discrimination against Jews, any more than I support it against any other group. I am appalled that Western governments look the other way when Muslims screech "Death to Israel", and quail when the same Muslims utter death threats against people who draw cartoons, but are ready to charge people with hate speech for pointing out that most terrorists are Muslims (for example, google Mark Steyn, Ezra Levant and the Canadian Human Rights Commission). But in the name of the 99.75% of humanity who aren't Jewish, would you please STFU already?!
Touche!
I'm impressed. Not one excrutiating run-on sentence. Instead, it's just four minor stuffy-nose inducing run-on sentences.
I am Chumbawamba, the worst thing about the internets.
Heil Chumba
Kevin - you are obviously mascarading as a crypto. Zino-philes want to be left alone to commit their crimes behind the shroud, unobserved.
Be careful where your kidneys come from.
/deleted for redundancy
Yes, come on George. This is old news already and after 24 hours we are allowed to reduce the seriousness of it with satire, if your jewish and you don't actually care that a bunch of non jews died. Any satire out there about jews and germans and ovens?
How many Jews can you fit in a VW??
54
2 in the front, 2 in the back and 50 in the ashtray
people parish all the time, but Jews are like single, middle-aged women in that they are 'always in a relationship' until the next relationship
Ouch...
dark pool... you just insulted 60% of NYC demographically in one comment...
We of course pity all the unwed Sarah Jess-equines out there...
Yes Marla Singer has foreseen the evils of the internet. It can be seen in many pictures like this one. Singer loves pictures on the internet, but she was busy with markets when this picture was taken. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/05/who-were-th...
Marla,
Tyler promotes tons of "earth is flat" points of view and articles. Of course I have pointed this out but he keeps promoting his nonsense. I mean the idiot thinks there is inflation right now.
I would rather not use those words but you seem to like them.
Marla Earth is not flat and you are not human.
Best compliment I've gotten all week.
+1
Marla Earth? It was renamed? When?
I prefer to think of Marla as not flat and on Earth to help humans.
You are brilliant, and that's why I come here. It goes without saying that whenever the topic involves Israel, the cockroaches scramble.
Here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM&feature=related
I also don't quite get this one. Guess there's a lot of us fuckwit retards out here.
i too am uncertain of your point in this post. it seems satirical, what with paint ball guns and turkish cavalry references. that the flotilla was absurd to oppose israel's will? that the aid mission was really morally corrupt and only provocative? i'm lost. whatever your point, it seems unlikely this last exchange of superior fire power with superior political theater will redound to israel's long-term benefit as an ongoing concern. what say you?
My work here is done.
Marla,
well done and dont worry about the fuckwits. We appreciate you bring some balance to the usual anti Israeli hatemongering.
Out of context after previous content vanished.
when the fuck did you matter so much? Such a god complex to expect everyone else lay on a sword to defend your ass or be labeled a coward. Why don't you make some babies and raise your own army for a change.
get in a line with all the other atrocities and hate mongering that is our human condition.
Huh?
Marla, were you busy with markets the day this picture was taken??? http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/05/who-were-th...
She was in the middle of a particularly long run-on sentence.
I am Chumbawamba.
Heil Chumba
I'm not the only one confused then. Thank god. I read the thing a couple of times, you're slipping Marla Singer, if that's even your real name.
Is George the Baby your real name? Come on, George the Baby, I think you need to get out more often...
George the baby crusher is a character from Monty Python and is not my real name. Good call man, you're the sharpest tool in the shed.
There's a fucking horse or something on the ship in the video! That isn't a bit funny in your opinion?
There's a fucking horse or something on the ship in the video! That isn't a bit funny in your opinion?
(edit - with regard to the paintball gun, is the suggestion that if Israel is going to commit an act of war they should start with conventional guns?)
Wow, just goes to show that 3 day weekends just make pissy people....
more pissy.
Every blockade occurs in 'international waters' - that's just an irrelevant point.
What if Mexico were lobbing rockets for months/years at San Antonio schools and the gov't funding terrorist groups dedicated to the murder of our citizens? I'm sure we'd just file a protest with the UN or blockade their shores - but only within 3 miles of our coast - right??
Those iron rods that hamas was beating the troops with - were they iron rods of PEACE?? How come only the ship with the hamas members was a problem, the other 3 there was no violence?
Don't be stupid.
Group B borded Group A's Ship to take it over.
Remind me: Who is the first agressor here?
Group A's ship announced it's intention to violate the border of a sovereign nation. Ship A was the first agressor. Have you not been following the news for the past week?
16 Junks on this comment to date. Absolutely shows that people can't deal with a reasonable point.
Who cares about 19 dead members of children murdering cult. I care about the 1368 virgins that have to spend eternity with these mysoginist wife beaters.
And so an Eye for an Eye until everbody is blind.
1) The sponsor of the Flotilla:
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/html/ham...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHH_%28%C4%B0nsani_Yard%C4%B1m_Vakf%C4%B1%2...
2) You can't crash a checkpoint or blockade. Israel gave them the option of being escorted to the Israeli port of Ashdod, and the aid delivered to Gaza overland by the UN, or or being overtaken by Israeli commandos. The Flotilla chose the latter because the aid was not the point, bullrushing the blockade was.
3) Israel isn't so crass as to allow the ship to cross the international line, and risk exponentially more casualties, so as to avoid the inevitable outcry.Waiting until the legalities were lined up, (i.e. they were 50 miles closer) would've put passengers and troops at risk. Boarding a ship like that in daylight is insanity, and they'd have had to use even more force. If 19 were killed under the best of circumstances (surprise raid, cover of darkness, etc), then WTF do you think would happen if they had had advance warning, and the advantage of light? They used less than lethal force UNTIL THEY WERE ATTACKED WITH LETHAL FORCE. At which point, they did the best anyone could do in that situation.
Seriously, you have no idea how an op like this works, or what the soldiers were up against, or how much restraint they actually did show. Any other navy would've given a warning, fired one across the bow, then gone full hog.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3896796,00.html
http://breakingnews.gaeatimes.com/2010/05/28/israeli-gunships-head-to-se...
4) Additionally, the Schalit family (who's son was kidnapped over 3 years ago, and held in Gaza) asked the Flotilla organizers to press Hamas to allow them access to their son, and in return the Schalit family would press the Israeli gov't to allow the flotilla to pass. The Flotilla organizers refused.
Israel boarded as they said they would, got attacked, and Israel brought the ship to Ashdod. The ships occupants refused to disboard, so they were removed, and Israel is transferring the aid to Gaza. What more do you want? If the Palestinians stopped illegally trying to import arms via sea, a la the Karine A, and would give some hard data as to Schalit's condition, Israel would lift the blockade.
You are trying to justify the unjustifiable. Even in Israel, they're now calling it a major fuck up, agreed to by a rump cabinet that did not have the necessary authority to order the raid.
Who is 'they'??? Most in israel support it, and I'd bet 100% of the israeli victims of rocket attacks support the blockade.
Put up or shut up.
Judge - don't get your panties in a bunch.
With a single foolish move, the Israeli cabinet cast the Muslim Brotherhood in the role of the victim and the Israel Navy as the villain and simultaneously opened European, Turkish, Arab, Palestinian and internal Israeli fronts. In so doing, Israel is serving Hamas' interests better than Hamas itself has ever done.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/fiasco-on-the-high-seas-1.293415
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/seven-idiots-in-the-cabinet-1....
Perhaps the commanders of the Israel Navy and policymakers should have read history books before sending special forces to raid boats carrying civilians.http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/a-failure-any-way-you-slice...
Why? Because I dont immediately hop on the anti-military/anti-Isaeli bandwagon and actually look at facts? What is it that you are so outraged over? What should have or could have been done differently?
The IDF could end the blockade of Gaza of course.
The Israelis could have made an honest effort for peace. Maybe they still can?
Yes, Jews are the "chosen people". They are entitled to commit any crime as long as they own & control the USA.
As for Israel, in a long-run, they don't have a prayer to survive.
PS
I do not like much Muslims but gangsters and bandits must be hanged.
Were are our peace-loving president? He must be preparing a new war. Like a losing gambler, after failing in his first bet (Afghanistan), he is about to make even a larger one. The question is WHERE?
oh so sorry that video sort of deflates your whole rasion d- etre.
Would you be so emotional if Chavez had done this to a Trinidadi boat? Or does the fact that Israel and Palestine are involved influence your emotions?
There are 1.6 billion lunatic mohameddans in the world, and they will try to hijack any message board, Wikipedia entry, or social media site they can. This is a failure of pluralistic democracy, and it just encourages people to have more children.
dude you completely missed the sarcasm. Of course what was great for me was I saw the slow motion video before reading the entire article. Nothing more shocking than having the first cup of coffee and seeing the ressurection and flying into action of the 'dreaded Turksh Cavalry'...loose on the deck of ship no less. This should come with a NSFW rating.
I don't think we will be laughing if the next attempt at bringing "aid" is escorted by the real Turkish Navy or Turkish special forces. No paint ball guns will be used at that point. This thing could escalate really fast into something very bad. WW3 in the sandbox?
But will they deploy Marine Cavalry?
Lighten up Douche.
You should start shooting at some Chicago cops with a paintball gun and see what happens.
As Emperor Palpatine said, "You will die"
unless you say the magic words : "HAHA"
Then you'll be just fine, and you might even get their donuts as a present
Mayor Daley may "stick the paintball gun up your butt and fire a few rounds off".
Why not just water cannon them?? Seems like they got the confrontation they wanted now bring on the anti-Israel obsessed remarks for about 4 weeks.
Mammary me!
That was a freebie...
I <3 ZeroHedge...glad I could be a part of this one, albeit largely as a bystandard.
Do you really want to keep going here, Tyler?
Before long, this site will be overrun by unemployable leftists, who, when not whining on the internet, spend their time in Starbucks drinking water, and writing bad poetry on a napkin.
I'll kindly ask you to address yourself to me. Thanks.
Sorry, I didn't see it was you.
I'm saying if you turn this into a political page instead of one devoted to financial issues, you're gonna drive away the knowledgeable regulars and replace them with leftist wackjobs.
There are enough political sites.
Just one guy's opinion.
"With few exceptions, politics is the pastime of second rate men."
Richard Ney
from the evidence to date i believe the rightist wackjobs are also well represented (but your larger point is well taken). marla's remains obscure (to me) beyond a generalized sympathy for the likud and a distaste for its opponents.
brett, make that very well taken. i see where two related posts lower down have 700+ ccomments.
BiM - I've seen this argument before. [Missing Link comes to mind.]
As you are self-identified as a financial-guy here's my question for you. How do you eliminate, ignore political/state actions when government has become/is the economy?
What we call the economy has become an artifact of central planning. How do you 'do finance' and ignore the central planning management?
How do charts work when policy trumps all charts? How are those Chrystler bond holders doing? Do you think they maybe wish they had a better handle on what the state was up to? I bet they do.
So, it must be nice to live in your walled off econo-world. My question is how do you do it? How do you impose these blinders on yourself and still make it work for you?
Nice try at shifting the scope of my argument. Of course, some financial topics have political implications, but, this is a specific issue, the Israeli/Palistianian conflict that has been debated to death on countless political sites.
I can tell you exactly how it will go here:
The Pro-Palestine side will cite that Israel was created illegally, and that Zionists control the the U.S Government and everything else for that that matter. 9-11, Lincoln assasination, dinosaur extinction are all Zionist plots.
The Pro-Israeli side will counter with the argument that if Israel didn't defend itself, there would be another Holocaust in the Middle-east. The saying "Finish the job that Hitler started" will be invoked early and often.
When all is said and done (an oxy-moron in this case) nothing will be settled and no opinions will be changed.
Come on ... who believes that about dinosaur extinction?
re. if Israel didn't defend itself, Why can't they just pack up and leave? Why do they have to live in someone else's house?
http://www.haaretz.com/general/shattering-a-national-mythology-1.242015
+100
I agree, although the post was appreciated for it's humor , wit and biting sarcasm, the subject is so sensitive even the mere mention of it ( at least until they blow a few nukes) will bring out the absolute worst in people . This is a site that's perfect for what it does. 10s of thousands of sites will be alive today as no work gets done as people anonymously show their outrage. It doesn't have to be here.
I do think the post was well done though.
If people don't like it, fuck em
And yet, with all those political sites, it took Marla and Zerohedge to analyze the video and publish the astonishing findings.
+ 3600
And add another 3600 to Popo below.
First things first, you just can't divide politics and finance.
if you are not engaged in politics, then politics will engage you. No one said, you would like that shit.
One could care less, if it was a tribal war somewhere in... well, Sierra Leone.
Oh, maybe you think that markets will ignore war in ME?
+100000
Likud just attacked a NATO ally, piracy in the high seas with Americans and Europeans on board. That's a financial issue.
Great quote, Brett. May I use it in the future?
I could not agree more with Brett. So that there is no doubt, Marla your input over the last number of pieces is exceptionally poor. I too believe that your work is undermining ZH and as constantly pointed out by others needs to stop immediately. I cannot think of a single piece you have written that rises above trite and unaccomplished, but more importantly your pieces are like a petri dish for the very worst to be found at ZH. From crappy comix to thoughtless written pieces, you Sir, need to be shown the door. The earth may not be flat, but your work is.
Charles, submit an article. I'm sure Marla and Tyler will post it. Let's see the quality of your work...
May I recommend a treatise about North Korean or Myanmar solar stocks?
duplication of post
Your criticism has confirmed to me that I've hit the mark perfectly and that, moreover, I cannot under any circumstances let up. Also, work on distinguishing gender.
Seven/eight against one here Marla, you got any cavalry jokes in this photo for us??? http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/05/who-were-th...
Ted, getting chewed on by puppies don't count. Submit an article. Show us your breadth of intellect.
All I need to see is "Andrew Sullivan" in the URL to decide to ignore that link.
On a serious note - what the hell is that thing on the soldier's gun?
This was at night, right? Maybe a night vision scope?
On a serious note. It's a paintball gun.
I admittedly do not know all that much about "tactical" stuff...
As such, I was amazed at the results of the Google search I just ran...
They were in fact armed with paintball guns.