Zero Hedge's Op-Ed To The New York Times

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Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:46 | 45326 Anonymous
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yes of course..its like asking V ( V for Vendetta guy) to remove his doesnt matter who is behind the mask..its the idea that matters

on another note, marla, there might be some pressure to reveal identities soon

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:48 | 45330 Marla Singer
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Gee, too bad we don't use a Google owned platform anymore. Well, luckily that blogger who is about to be exposed lives in the land of the free and the home of the brave. I'm sure they won't have anything to worry about.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:19 | 45395 SlowTrader
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well said Marla, keep it up.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:46 | 45327 Mannwich
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Keep going, TD.  Do not stop. 

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:47 | 45328 Anonymous
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Nice job!!!

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:48 | 45329 Mannwich
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Excuse me, keep going, TD et al.....

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:49 | 45331 dnarby
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I think I'm going to cry.

...Yep!  (acts like something's in his eye).

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:52 | 45332 Anonymous
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What a powerful article but I highly doubt that this will be published! We don't have real reporting in this country anymore except for bloggers. This is why newspapers will be extinct! Keep up the great work!

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 14:16 | 45440 Anonymous
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Nothing like anonymity to get one's ideas co-opted btw.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 18:15 | 45676 Cow
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"I highly doubt that this will be published!"

Given the drop in circulation of the NY Times, it might get more eyeballs just being on ZH


Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:52 | 45333 Lou629
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New slogan suggestion for ZH website & tee-shirts:

If the lone ranger could wear a mask, then what's the problem?

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:10 | 45346 Anonymous
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Don't give up you day job ;-)

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 18:12 | 45671 Lou629
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anon. #45346,

While your reply removes any doubt about the overwhelming amount of creativity that you're capable of.  What a display of raw talent!  ;-)

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:53 | 45334 Anonymous
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His Name Is Robert Paulson.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:55 | 45336 xris
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Makes one wonder what Thomas Paine's later life would have been like if he'd published the Age of Reason under a pseudonym...

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 11:55 | 45337 Cheeky Bastard
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don't spend it all on blow and red bull :D ... fantastic job Marla,hope they print it.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:21 | 45396 Anonymous
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Would Carlos Slim approve?

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:05 | 45340 Anonymous
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you sure take yourselves seriously...

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:09 | 45344 Marla Singer
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Anonymous, my friend, this is the majors. Dilettantes have no place. If that's not clear to you already given that the likes of CNBC attack us twice a week, then you need a visit to Pearle.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:36 | 45372 bonddude
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Quoting Justice JP Stevens was brilliant. That's why ZH is my first read everyday and several times a day.


To the above shrill Anon. comment, if people in high places weren't taking this site seriously

why is somebody like you here doing your best to detract? Mr. Gasparino?

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:51 | 45381 Marla Singer
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He is one of my favorites. I had lunch with him in DC once. Amazing.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:10 | 45345 windhorse2000
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great job Marla!

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:10 | 45347 Anonymous
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The only finer post I have ever read in support of anonymous blogging was penned by Tanta (Doris Dungey, RIP) on Calculated Risk in 2007.

Thank you for going where she went. We all need to get vocal about any encroachment on free speech in the blogosphere, especially those that want to remove necessary cloaks of anonymity (and we should all support the very vocal Electronic Freedom Foundation).

The New York Times will reveal a lot about itself depending on how it treats this letter.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:14 | 45349 Marla Singer
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I'm not sure you can appreciate the degree to which it warms me (and almost brings a tear to my eye) to even obliquely be compared to Tanta (Doris...). I was a loyal reader, and afflicted mourner. I should live 1000 years and aspire only to live up to her prose.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:30 | 45401 Anonymous
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I miss Tanta terribly--especially now that we are on the backside of the stimulus -- there has been no healing of the foreclosure crisis (she must be whirling in her grave), no elimination of massive toxic debt, and the no end to twisted policies enabling banks that created the crisis to cement their too-big-to-fail status by indenturing victims if the crisis --state governments and taxpayers-- to high-interest loans and high fees.

I am so sorry she is not here to brandish her wit and clarity and outrage at all of this, but so glad to see that others have taken up where she so tragically left off. I hope you appreciate how much you are valued by your readers.

CR and a very few other blogs pulled me away from a cliff during the housing runup, when I was about to make a very bad decision that would have cost me dearly. I was saved by The Blogs--not the Fourth Estate. I-- and thousands of others lucky enough to stumble on the unvarnished, data-driven, often anonymously written truth --will never forget that.

MS financial journalists that do not have the widsom or humility to acknowledge these blogs' success-and their own failures--are busily sowing the seeds of their own destruction. That the Fourth Estate cannot do its job is a tragedy entirlely of its own making.

Thu, 08/27/2009 - 02:47 | 49698 Ruth
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I loved reading her blog too, although I was mesmorized by Zerohedge before I caught her stuff but caught up and admired her also.  Always wondering what could I have done better, in re: to the mortgage mess.  It's now too little too late, but it's not too late for you at ZH, it's just the beginning, great work always.  Thanks is NOT enough.  (just think of it as carrying on her torch)

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:31 | 45369 Anonymous
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It's wild, I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the post. It has a similar even healed cool logicians approach without being offensive, and Tanta was great at that. Even if you didn't agree you would always finish reading what she wrote...

well done.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:16 | 45351 Anonymous
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I am a big fan of yours but please don't go all bragging about how anonymous you are and deserve to be. You publish under pseudonyms, fine with me and fine with everyone else. Just don't feel obliged to justify it over and over again. Ignore the trolls, do not feed them.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:16 | 45394 Anonymous
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here here

Mon, 08/24/2009 - 08:37 | 46044 Anonymous
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I disagree. If the site loses the anonymity, the rest of us lose the content. It's up to you whether you hold the anonymity policy in the highest regard or not, but it's one of the lynchpins to what makes us all visit the site.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:16 | 45352 Anonymous
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Beautifully written and oh so true. Why is that the established media is railing against such truth and effectiveness? Sold their souls to the corporate devils too many years ago. Carry on with the fine (and scary to the establishment) work. You have my deepest respect.


Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:17 | 45354 Harbourcity
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NYT should publish it - they need the readers.


Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:19 | 45358 Pico
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& if they do ZH gets more readers too.

Which place will they stay? (no contest)

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:17 | 45355 Pico
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go Marla! ZH is doing us all a great service. Thanks.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:18 | 45357 Kaiser Soze
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Well written piece, easily understood by the average reader.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:19 | 45360 numbers
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Right on, Marla. Great op-ed. Not likely the NYT will print it but hey, you gotta try. Anyway, great job.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:22 | 45362 Anonymous
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Keep it up Tyler! I don't think that the New York Slimes of Walter Duranty fame will prin it but hope springs eternal.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:24 | 45364 thegreatsatan
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good luck having them publish that, the old gray whore long ago gave up anything that resembled journalistic integrity and intellectual honesty

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:24 | 45365 Anonymous
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I'm thinking MSM & PTB have realized anon speech is a sore point for ZH.

They will coordinate efforts to bait you, distract you, and (attempt) to draw you out: circling the fountain of truth and chipping at structural weaknesses.

Would you not retain more power if you ignore their efforts completely?

Don't pull your punches.
Don't get distracted.

Keep dragging the cockroaches into the sunlight. Wear your yellow rubber gloves.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:28 | 45367 Marla Singer
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Sore point? Are you nuts? It's one of our founding tenants tenets!

Please... PLEASE continue attacking us for one of the features that founded this Republic. Please... oh PLEASE keep that up.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:32 | 45404 Anonymous
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"Sore point" was a poor choice of words, perhaps.

Please indulge me in a rephrase.

ZH is about the message, not the messenger. That's the purpose of the anon speech tenant. Understood. And agreed.

(keep on keepin' on)

However, MSM & PTB are attempting to engage ZH *specifically* on the anon speech tenant. By engaging with them — even in defense or clarification — the situation reverts to being about the messenger, instead of the message.

Paradigm flip.

The end result is the press on ZH is about "anon" instead of the message. The financial message gets lost against the noise of the search for anon: "Did you see that article in NYT about the anon blog that writes about...about...something?"

Unless, of course, ZH's *dual* purpose is to address the right to anon addition to exposing dirty financial laundry. In which case, full on.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:56 | 45423 Anonymous
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A soar point?

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 15:39 | 45532 Anonymous
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Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:26 | 45366 I need more cowbell
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I am just proud to be a reader and occasional poster. I cannot imagine the sense of satisfaction y'all must feel, daily.

This is the best and most important site, not just fiancial site, on the internet. Welcome to the revolution, of sanity, of non-corruption, of free thought.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:32 | 45370 Ich bin ein whatever
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 As we live in an age where posting on a blog can get you fired years later after a casual, lunch-hour Google search by a Human Resources representative, has there ever been a more important time for anonymous speech in financial reporting?  We think not.

There have been at least four people at my corporation fired for this. 

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 18:18 | 45683 Gordon_Gekko
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It is exactly because of this type of nonsense that I decided not to work for any corporation - ever. Fuck off, bastards.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:35 | 45371 Anonymous
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If you were to offer "I am Tyler Durden" t-shirts, I would be one. Your pseudonimity is refreshing and welcome. If everyone admits that they are Tyler Durden (like the T-Shirt idea), then nobody can be Tyler Durden.

I think, however, that your appearances on main stream media confuse your stance. Do all contributors have the "right" to portray themselves as TD in interviews? Or is only one person allowed to speak for the name? If indeed the "voice" of TD is limited to one individual, then the concept is weakened.

Finally, as you continue to elevate the impact of your writings, I suggest that you consider that your excessive use of hyperbole may create a glass ceiling to your credibility. I would encourage you to tone that down to allow your mission to reach a larger audience who may be put off by this behavior. If you want to rant, make the rant the topic and have at it. If you want to report on who the next Fed Chairman will be, lighten up on the passionate parentheticals.

"Tyler Durden" ;)

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:42 | 45375 Anonymous
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Give 'em Hell, Marla. ZH is an Oxygen supply in a room full of foul air.

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 12:50 | 45376 Cheeky Bastard
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this is a repost of a comment i wrote on NC under the post questioning TD and ZH " legitimacy ", i find it important to post it here simply because it is a summary WHY anonymity is important. It is not your standard view on anonymity as a protection tool, but as a tool of validation; but to make a long post short; here ya go



" Yves, is that jealousy i find in the tone of your post; first of all anonymity is the basis of accomplishment throughout history of mankind and it serves a purpose; as you my,or may not know; Gadamer came to a startling conclusion that anonymity is one of the basis for a successful reading; and thus basically one of necessary epistemological components when it comes to validating consensus of either relation or objectivity of that relation among all the parties which take position in the discourse itself; furthermore; if the true nature of the information is objective truth or it holds reference to truth; then the source of that information is meaningless ( Vienna circle and Habermas ); all that matters is context; furthermore; information; as knowledge; can only be objective if accepted trough various verification models by number of independent observes ( ZH satisfies this, and all of the above ). So your " critique " of anonymity is either a) subjective and thus not valid or b) simple logical fallacy and un-intentional mistake; if first is the case that your reasons are purely anthropological/psychological and can be dismissed as subliminal but if b) then you show a warning lack of the tool you use to promote your thought and information and then rises something called perpetual loop( or in logic circular reasoning); and that is basically that the content you provide can be bounded to intentional mistake which would immediately compromise it in a) utilization b) truthfulness . I hope you get what I'm trying to say; but if not let me summarize it for you
a) it is the manifistation of your nature
b) it is the manifestation of your lack of understanding what writing is ( read Derrida ) and what is the nature of knowledge and information ( take some epistemology courses )"

Sun, 08/23/2009 - 13:14 | 45393 Anonymous
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Cheeky, read you comment on NC, Bravo. In regard to NC,People in glass houses should not throw spitballs, makes for a nasty looking glass.

Last night someone posted that Yves is head of Aurora Advisors. Look at their list of clients. Not throwing spitballs at Yves at all but she would have been better served keeping her fingers still.

"Representative clients include:

* American Express
* Bankers Trust
* Dresdner Bank
* Industrial Bank of Japan
* Lehman Brothers
* McKinsey & Company
* The New Republic
* ShoreBank
* Soros Fund Management
* Swiss Bank
* Tech Pacific Australia
* The Weather Channel

In addition to serving well-recognized concerns, we have also worked on behalf of Forbes 400 families, mid-sized investment firms, boutique investment banks, and substantial individuals."

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