Jon Stewart on Indefinite Detention of Americans

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ElTerco's picture

I think the govenment is slowly redefining the values associated with the word "American".  I think the word used to be a nod to (baiscally) believing the founding principles in the Constitution.  Over the last few years the word "American" has been redefined to mean "patriotic" which in turn means, backing the governement, whatever direction it may be headed.  You may think this subtle change in the meaning of words is no big deal, but in reality it indicates it is time to pay close attention to your leaders.  George Orwell tried to drive home this point in his book, "1984" (interstingly enough, about the year when the meaning/values assosiated with words started changing).

besnook's picture

i hope i am around when the guillotines are built. it sure will be fun.

Fozzy Slippers's picture

Do these assholes really think they're untouchable?

New_Meat's picture

I'm seeing John Stewart and I'm missing George Washington's outrage on this situation.  GW hiding behind 'john fucking stewart'? in his outrage about <any situation????>


And, really, this is the natural turf for "George Washington" to plant his complaints and make his hay.

... crickets ....

- Ned

{GW, c'mon back, u can do it, cuz your basic theory  of the system being so fubar is so correct, but challenging certain interests is something that we can help you with}

agNau's picture

In the sage words of that famous terrorist Ted Turner......
"There are just too many people in this world"

"“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine

Ted Turner: World Needs a 'Voluntary' One-Child Policy for the Next Hundred Years
My advice:
Do your part!

Big Corked Boots's picture

Amazes me that people who are really concerned about global overpopulation never take direct action by themselves.

Wakanda's picture

Time to put on the Big Boy/Girl boxers/panties.  We are not in Kansas anymore.  We live in aMeRiKa.

"oh, Auntie Em - there's no place like home! ..." - Dorothy

blindman's picture
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes … known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.… No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

— James Madison, Political Observations, 1795
i was wondering how much is spent on the "war on terror" by
"countries" other than the united states. surely the usa is
not the only target of terror and terrorist.

The Alarmist's picture

Quoting a founding father is in itself a ground for suspicion of being a terrorist. You will cease, and you will obey, or you will be droned ... for the good of the people.

Catullus's picture

Lindsey Graham is a piece of dogshit.  That little cocksucker has made an entire career off looting the American people to give directly to the military industrial complex.  He knows no country that he wouldn't invade.  He's a scaremongering, racist, facist son of a bitch who has created more destruction on this earth than few people in history can compare.  There's a special place in hell for him.

MobBarley's picture

I want to turn in Tyler Durden for selling me some pot that couldn't get a fly high!


CPL's picture

That's because dealers sell newbs oregano

Kilgore Trout's picture

Parsley?!? You can put it in your soup!

MorningStar's picture

What a wonderful show of what is really happening in America.  Congratulations on a truthful showing of reality in this large prison we live in.

dexter_morgan's picture

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

JW n FL's picture



Dexter we can find better things to do with all of these evil fucks who kill millions of people a year.

but for polite conversational purposes.. we can call it bowling if you like.

JW n FL's picture



Department of Energy 2011 (International) Outlook


We are all FUCKED! (this will only be news to a few of you idiots)


Department of Energy Press Page.


Video presentation.


The PDF short report (direct link).


how about some back ground?

This is for the attention deficit crowd, 1 minute and 45 seconds long and in cartoon medium.


this one is a little longer.. and maybe more for the grownups.. to all of my Friends here.. this is Jeff Rubin, again.. no need for you guys / gals to have to suffer it again.

Al Bartlett on energy consumption versus population

Uploaded by human4832 on Dec 7, 2009

Prof. Al Bartlett discusses his perspective on energy consumption versus population growth. Unending population growth is the root cause of our increasing demand for energy.

This is from a panel discussion with Professor Al Bartlett and former Colorado Governor Dick Lamm at the October 2009 ASPO-USA Denver, Colorado symposium on peak oil. For more information and additional panel videos, see . Also see .

The Most IMPORTANT Video You'll Ever See (part 1 of 8)

Uploaded by wonderingmind42 on Jun 16, 2007

2 million views for an old codger giving a lecture about arithmetic? What's going on? You'll just have to watch to see what's so damn amazing about what he (Albert Bartlett) has to say.

I introduce this video to my students as "Perhaps the most boring video you'll ever see, and definitely the most important." But then again, after watching it most said that if you followed along with what the presenter (a professor emeritus of Physics at Univ of Colorado-Boulder) is saying, it's quite easy to pay attention, because it is so damn compelling.

Entire playlist for the lecture:

David Rockefeller speaks about population control.

Bill Gates on energy: Innovating to zero!


Fracking Contaminates Towns Water Supply

It was a little town with no one of importance in it.. and we need the energy more than another nowhere, piece of shit, red neck infested, town in the middle of bum-fucked-Egypt!

AldousHuxley's picture

would the consumption by non-OECD still be true if Chinese economy exploded?


China fallout -> commodity fallout in Africa and Brazil



Gunga's picture

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

 Aleksandr I.  Solzhenitsyn

TheAkashicRecord's picture

The water is almost boiling for us frogs

Zero Govt's picture

Funny but Jon 'Rent-a-Big-Leftie-Gob' Stewart was on Dominic Strauss-Khan being locked up on trumped up charges by the NYPD... he thought this trivia more important in the week his beloved 2nd coming of Jesus, President 'Sunshine Arse' Bumma was robbing public pensions because of the usual suicide socialist spending orgy

Priorities, priorites Mr Stewart

Stewart is no doubt "stunned and genuinely shocked" his dripping wet Marxist Commie President is so close to all-out totalitarian socialist Govt and the Gulags (Gitmo amounts to the exact same)  

Flog yourself in public Stewart, lay down a marker you're not (quite) 100% ready for all-out totalitarism. Afterall your tizzy-sheep audience wouldn't laugh quite so loud if they knew where your leftie tendancies led you right? And afterall like all socialists you have the historical memory of a Goldfish on where suicide socialism takes you, what it does to EVERY country and what it does to ALL people impoverished by this socialised Marxist robbery

i). a completely bankrupt country (which you ignored slandering DSK)

ii). a totalitarian State (socialism, the 'Man of the People' that detsroys peoples freedoms and bangs them up)

How close are we now Stweart to America looking like every other socialist fucked nation?????? 

a cats whisker away from socialist bankruptcy and a cats whisker away on socialist totalitarism Mr 'socialist' Stewart

GFY Stewart you washed up sad socialist joke/r ...the lefties Last Chapter has arived: America is fucked and you're part of the 'moral' leftie whining big gobbed scum that sponsored it

IQ 101's picture

Obummer will be portrayed as a saviour of liberty when he vetos this, to

avoid that little Geneva convention accountability  thing.

Rand Paul was cleverly edited to appear as a proponent of the bill for the halfwits who watch this verminous douchebag.

Henry Hub's picture

The idea that anyone could call Obama, the toady for Wall Street and the multinational corporations a socialist is beyond all logical comprehension. Yes we are headed for a totalitarian police state, but it's not going to be a socialist one by any stretch of the imagination.

buyingsterling's picture

"it won't be sociaist".

That's kind of like waiting to bitch about a police state until it's right up in your face and literally in your *ss. Socialism, like a police state, is a state of mind and always a matter of degree. When 100 million+ Americans are utterly dependent upon transfers of cash from the state, I'd say we have a healthy degree of socialism. Indeed, it's conceded that only those cash transfers prevent the system from melting down into utter chaos. So the socialized aspect of the system has a high degree of control over all of us: pay up or get raped and looted, and watch your parents and grandparents starve and die if you can't house them and pay for their medical care. It's a scythe hanging over the entire society. Once free and independent people have been enslaved by offers that have proven too good to be true. And it all goes hand in hand - the welfare state enables the fiat scam and the warfare state (terms largely interchangeable there). When the young go off to fight the bankers' wars, there's a lot less protest at home when the state is supporting the parents and grandparents.

Vendetta's picture

Agree totally.  I wrote Bob Chapman of International Forecaster a few years ago about his complaining of the 'socialists' and he sent me a scathing response and we bantered back and forth a little bit.  A recent article he wrote this past year clearly indicated he had changed his tune, at least in a significant fashion.  I like Bob's writing and am glad he sees it the way it really is instead of what the politically biased media usually tries to portray it. Its not like all this massive deficit spending is going to 'welfare queens' down in some ghetto, its, in large part, going to corporations and/or banking interests to 'keep the system going' and 'keep us safe'.  Oy, who feels 'safe' except the uber rich, many of them will be knocked down a few pegs ... my grandparents were very wealthy and the great depression cleaned them out almost completely

Zero Govt's picture

How anyone can describe America as not socialist is byond me!

Take a look at healthcare... US property... subsidised trains and buses.. agricultural subsidies.. the EPA ...your banks are State propped up zombies 

It would be easier to list what doesn't have State intervention ...the black (free) market in drugs

what isn't socialist is fascist, Big Govt and Big Corpse, the military industrial complex

America 'Land of the Free' my arse cheeks.. daddy Starlin and Mao would be proud of America, and Europe for that matter, and the level of macro and micro State intervention in every facet of its crumbling economy

IQ 101's picture

"Heading for" ???  We are already there mate.

rwe2late's picture

ZG and some of his admirers make up their own definitions for words (such as "socialism" and "free markets"), as well as remain oblivious to the symbioses of capitalism and capitalist government.


Some of ZG’s quotes:

“In a free market there are NO RULES, that is the definition of free. If you want an example of a free market without any rules (free of Laws, judges, lawyers, regulations, employment and consumer protection legislation) see the brilliant free - black - market in illegal drugs.”

“Yep, some adults telling other adults what or how they should do things. They can all go fuck themselves.”

“So setting rules is stupid par excellence. Free = freedom (no rules, self determination on any issue).”

Zero Govt's picture

the reason I redefine words, particualrly the word "anarchy", is because the establishment have scewed the language to firstly mask the underlying truths and secondly send you/people off the sent of finding or thinking about the truth

Anarchy is generally defined as "lawlessness"... the truth is it is more Law that leads to anarchy.

Check the history books sometime without the 'guidence' of your socialist toady Uni Professor. The State produces laws and the more laws they produce is in direct correlation to how corrupt the State is. Check out Mao and Stalins mushroom clouds of increased laws (while murdering tens of millions of their citizens).

It's the same in Europe and America today. the mushroom cloud explosion of Laws here are equal to the level of corruption in our States. Both graphs run in parallel: the more laws the more corruption

Freedom (no law or rules or legislation) means people are free

More Laws mean people are not free but ruled by others

You acquate anarchy to no laws... the truth is more Law leads to anarchy 

We have today is a legalised to death society... a corrupt group (politicos, corporates and bankers) running riot across society and vandlaising the economy and free market, above the law because they make it. That is the correct definition of anarchy

Like most people you are (mis)educated into a zombie, taught to accept concepts and even words without ever challenging their validity or truth... you are incapable of never thinking for yourself.. you are too compliant to even challange the words the establishment have fed you to box in your thinking (do you think?) or challange the accepted norms

Anarchy (a group running riot across society) throughout history has always been the State and has always been accompanied by vast amounts of Law

Think about it ..if you're capable!

DogSlime's picture

You could always move to the UK of couse... oh wait...

"Britains never never never shall be slaves."


Sorry guys, the elite have won.  They won in 2007/8 - that was when the battle should have been faught but it wasn't and they won.

How could they win so easily?  I think because most people don't give a shit and can't be bothered thinking or reading or independantly seeking information outside what they are fed.

They won.  We're fucked.

Even now - after all that's been exposed - they're doing even better than they were before.  They have even more money and even more power.  None have suffered any penalty.  There seems to be little sign that they ever will.

Doesn't that means they won?

I want to believe that their day of reckoning will come and it seems unbelievable... utterly unbelievable that they got away with it and that surely things will change but that also might be congitive dissonance.  Looking at all the evidence - even the Corzine thing this very day... objectively, it convinces me that they won.

(...and just for clarity "they" isn't referring to a race of people.  Being of a particular race does not make someone guilty of anything.  Please don't do "guilt by race".)


JW n FL's picture




DoD Training Manual: Protests are "Low-Level Terrorism"

The Department of Defense is training all of its personnel in its current Antiterrorism and Force Protection Annual Refresher Training Course that political protest is "low-level terrorism."

The Training introduction reads as follows:

"Anti-terrorism (AT) and Force Protection (FP) are two facets of the Department of Defense (DoD) Mission Assurance Program. It is DoD policy, as found in DoDI 2000.16, that the DoD Components and the DoD elements and personnel shall be protected from terrorist acts through a high pirority, comprehensive, AT program. The DoD's AT program shall be all encompassing using an integrated systems approach."

Which of the following is an example of low-level terrorism activity?

Select the correct answer and then click Check Your Answer.

O Attacking the Pentagon


O Hate crimes against racial groups

O Protests


The "correct" answer is Protests.

A copy of this can be found on the last two pages of this pdf.

The ACLU learned of this training and on June 10, 2009 sent a letter to Gail McGinn, Acting Under-Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, objecting to their training all DoD personnel that the exercise of First Amendment rights constitutes "low-level terrorism."

For those who have worried about a trend - evident, for example, in the USA PATRIOT Act, the universal and ongoing government surveillance of all of Americans' electronic communications that began in February of 2001 (seven months before 9/11), the global war on a tactic (terrorism), therefore making this war unending, the unprecedented pre-emptive arrests of protestors at the 2008 Republican National Convention with those protesters being charged as "domestic terrorists," the justifications for torture, pre-emptive wars of aggression, ongoing occupations, American gulags such as Bagram, suspension of habeas corpus, and "prolonged detention" for acts someone might commit, not what they have done, FBI et al infiltration of protest groups and the government's acknowledged use of undercover agents (agents provocateurs) in said infiltration, thus giving the government under the rubric of fighting domestic terrorism unrestrained and unsupervisable power to suppress legitimate political activities, the unleashing and justifications for Christian fascists to murder those they do not like (such as the assassination of Dr. George Tiller and the killing at the Holocaust Museum a few days ago) - this news adds further fuel to the fire.

redcorona's picture

They won in 1945 ww2, in 1918 ww1, 1917 bolshevik revolution, 1914 fed, and 1799 the jacobin revolution.  Why do they keep winning?  Because we would rather die or be slaves than say "they".

DogSlime's picture

Not so for me.  I say "they" because otherwise I would need to do a massive list of names and the people on here already know the names so it would be a waste of page.

swani's picture

No one in the Corporate Media was reporting this story until Jon Stewart brought it up and now they're reporting about John Stewart bringing up the indefinite detention. Well at least, someone is reporting on this story and the more that these things get out, the more that people will try to stop them. Not everyone is asleep. A lot of people are awake now and I still have hope for our country.  

IQ 101's picture

REuters was reporting this story at least a week ago, possibly longer,

I thought at the time that it was unusual that this bill was being reported ONLY by left wing outlets, Obummer willveto, creating election brownie points, he has nothing else to blow his trumpet about does he?

Ha Ha, Brownie points, I crack me up.

Zero Govt's picture

Stewart is trying to lay down a marker he's not 100% a part of this Washington Totalitarian scum (despite being their big rent-a-gob mouthpiece for a decade) ...he doesn't want to be skinned in the street by rioting mobs ...he's pissing his Trotsky pants as he knows his beloved criminal establishment are going up in a mushroom cloud of raping America very shortly

and yet another neat slight of hand on the day Democrat, New Jersey Governor, Goldman Sucks, MF Global corrupt scumbag testifies having robbed tens of thousands of peoples accounts (so much for the 'morality' of top dog socialists in the Democrat Party)

Stewart was on Dominic Strauss Khan like a rat up a drainpipe while President Obumma was robbing public pensions... where's fuktard Stweart been for 30 days on his Demcoratic Party criminal thief?

taxpayer102's picture

Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz hasn't had a show on TV for 10 years because he's working *against* TPTB.  He does a great job making people laugh so they're distracted from their enslavement while their country is sold out.

swani's picture

No one in the Corporate Media was reporting this story until Jon Stewart brought it up and now they're reporting about John Stewart bringing up the story. Well at least, they are reporting on this story and the more that these things get out, the more that people will try to stop them. Not everyone is asleep. A lot of people are awake now.  

Ernie November's picture

"The law is a whore subject to the highest bidder." Taylor Caldwell if memory serves me at all.

Let's rev it up

The eternal question

Good thing they only operate in a temporal zone. 



apberusdisvet's picture

I want first dibs on a top bunkbed at the FEMA camp

daforce's picture

By the way, if you own more than 3 flashlights, you just might be a terrorist.

Ferrari's picture

I constitute a healthy cell in that case.

General Debility's picture

I remember in Indonesia it used to be tattoes that would make you a 'person of interest' Neighbours dobbed their non gali gali arch foes in. The rivers ran with tattoed corpses and blood.
Mind your fingers peeps.
Oh and Go Rand!

Randall Cabot's picture

"Neighbours dobbed their non gali gali arch foes in"

What language is that slang from?

xela2200's picture

The patriot act was a direct contradiction to the constitution and an insult to all of those who gave up their lives to defend it. I thought it just could not get any worst. Now, We have this piece of crap bill which nullifies the forth amendment. If it is not stopped, the next bill will be even worst. Now, that is the only argument that I need against it.

Seer's picture

Oh, no, this didn't start with the USA [UN]PATRIOT ACT.

MoneyPowerWomen's picture

it always gets worse. legislation like this is a ratchet - it only turns one way.

effinayright's picture

As amended, the bill specifically states that it does not change existing law wrt to American detainees. IOW there's no provision for indefinite detention of Americans.  The stuff pushed here by GW (that the law gives the Prez authority to detain any American, anywhere at any time , for any reason) is pure bullbleep.

Go over to the Volokh Conspiracy to learn the facts.