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Mon, 04/09/2012 - 02:22 | 2327329 Nylawyer
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It will take the work of more than just a lawyer and some backers to change things, and hence anyone who is against Mer’s actions should take an active stand. Every person counts.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 21:52 | 1872846 Zero Govt
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MERS is a "tracking system"... owned by mortgage industry participants who shovelled alot of money into this new entity... my what bankers and mortgage Co's are prepared to spend on administrative tracking?!!!

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:38 | 1871988 chunga
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Below is a pretty thorough Amicus Brief addressing the MERS "Secret Electronic Mortgage Society".

In re: Mortgage Foreclosure Cases

63 pages long but it isn't possible to explain this $hit on a post card.

Tue, 09/04/2012 - 03:38 | 2759510 ex-Texan
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This is really cool, chunga.   I agree 100% with what you are doing and I used to follow your posts on FR which has turned out to be in the pockets of WS crooks and Banksters

Thu, 11/17/2011 - 16:27 | 1888642 aimeesevey
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Thats nice chunga. Thank you for posting this I will read it soon and come back with a review here.

Mortgage Fraud

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 09:16 | 1871937 Cloud9.5
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I went toe to toe with a major bank for about eight years and lost my shirt, shoes and socks.  I found out several things that are true here in Florida.  I discovered that bank officers sit on judicial nominating committees and I found out that the chairmen of those nominating committees often times represent those same banks in front of judges who have applied for appointments to those very same committees


Those judges may wake up and smell the coffee when they come to realize that their banker friends have collapsed the real estate market that pays their salary.


People really need to look at USC 18 / 1014 and bank officer responsibility and liability under USC 12 / 503.


There is no justice there is just us.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:43 | 1872060 Cloud9.5
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I wonder when some plaintiff's attorney will file a class action RICO action on the above mentioned statutes?

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:20 | 1871979 SamAdams1234
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There is no justice except when a Banker and judge fears the end of a guillotine blade.

When the foundation of real estate ownership is uncertain, nothing can be certain.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:51 | 1872000 RiverRoad
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Ahh the guillotine blade.....quick, my knitting.  I have sweaters to make.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 09:15 | 1871935 tony bonn
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i love 4closurefraud and reports of justice sought, however tentative and inchoate....

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 09:03 | 1871927 Miss Expectations
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Under Similar Articles You May Enjoy there is a link to a previous article about Jeff Thigpen, the Guilford County, North Carolina Register of Deeds.  He was going after MERS too.  He seems to have dropped off the planet since this happened:

Register of Deeds Jeff Thigpen Meeting with President Obama Today (June 17, 2011)

"Prior to the reception, Thigpen will be attending a special policy briefing with senior White House and Administration officials on topics including housing, immigration reform, innovation, energy, and job creation."


Since this meeting, I can find NO updates on Jeff or his crusade on behalf of NC registers of deeds. 

What's up with that? 


Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:18 | 1871971 i-dog
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Have you checked with FEMA? And with the County Coroner?

Sometimes there's a perfectly innocent explanation ... like a hot-tub accident ... or a hit-and-run ... or an unfortunate bout of food poisoning....

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:30 | 1871982 Miss Expectations
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Sometimes there's a perfectly innocent explanation...attending a special policy briefing?

Check Jeff's Twitter (last tweet):



Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:33 | 1872030 i-dog
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Can you post it? Clicking that link requires me to *shudder* register! (I don't twit, or utoob, or gmale, or farcebook, or.... Just a quirky habit to avoid their perfectly innocent tracking, which they would do for my own safety, of course ;)

<Edit> Cancel that. Found it through google: "Thigpen to Meet President Obama and Administration Officials..." --- 5 months ago and nothing since!! Must have been something wrong with the canapes they served at that meeting...perfectly innocent.... :-/

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 12:18 | 1872102 Uchtdorf
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Just look him under Google News. He is quoted as recently as November 3rd, 2011.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 08:37 | 1871910 optionswriter
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This is an idiotic suit.  Ms. Smith is absolutely right that there is a difference between the actual promissory note and the mortgage which is a claim on the promissory note itself.  The property is the collateral for the note.  Any first year law student could tell you that.  But understandably the average citizen would not know the difference.   I suspect this is more publicity for Mr. Fuller who will be able to tout at re-election time that he stood up for the people.  Of course all done on the taxpayer's dime. 

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 22:08 | 1872868 Zero Govt
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Mr Fuller appears to be representing the Registry Office and the lost fees usurped by MERS ...any "first year law student" would have read the prosecution before gobbing off (unlike you)

so Mr Fuller is not "representing the people"... nobody is doing that ...which as any first year law student would contemplate is a bit of an 'omission' regards all the private deals being struck for money behind closed doors between the fraudsters (WS bankers and MERS shareholders) and Attorney generals across the country

Ms Smith as you've not noted yet is of course representative of MERS. Given from start to finish the mortgage process was fraud all the way followed by more fraud (fraudulent signatures) after we can safely assume she's a snake oil saleswoman. To be fair given so much criminal fraud it would be hard for her to ever get near telling the truth wouldn't it peanut brain?

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:01 | 1872008 RiverRoad
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The taxpayers will happily pay for some new legislation here if that's what it's going to take.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 00:46 | 1871662 honestann
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MERS is the owner of the mortgages ???

Boy do they have balls to make such a blatantly absurd claim!  If this is true [in any way at all], this is clearly a fraudulant effort to centralize the entire mortgage market for the benefit of the predators-that-be and predator-class.  Why would they do such a thing?

The only reason that makes any sense is truly diabolical --- so they could "call in all these mortgage loans simultaneously" and thereby end up taking ownership of trillions of dollars of properties when 99% cannot pay and therefore technically default?

This is either a last-ditch attempt to pretend they haven't been doing what they have been doing, or something incredibly sinister.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 07:55 | 1871860 i-dog
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I have long believed in exactly your "incredibly sinister" interpretation ... that the objective was and is to [fraudulently] gain possession of a massive proportion of middle-class property in America. That the streets (or FEMA camps) will await those who can't produce documented clear title ... whether they think they've paid off their mortgage or not!

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 00:15 | 1871618 wareco
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Clerk loses.  There is no legal requirement that a mortgage be recorded in the public records in order to be effectual.  The only reason to record the mortgage is to give notice to the public, and thereby give the mortgage priority over a subsequently executed mortgage or judgment.  It is not against the law to not record a mortgage in Florida.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 06:02 | 1871861 Slartebartfast
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LOL!  While technically correct, your statement is completely irrelevant.  The reason the recording process exists is to maintain a repository of reliable chain of ownership documentation that has value as evidence.  Ever been involved in evidence in a court case?  The most basic requirement is reliable chain of custody of the evidence.  Without that the evidence must be considered tainted and suspect.  The County Recorder does nothing to certify the documents they record.  That is not their role.  They certify that they received the document on the date and time specified and have safeguarded it ever since.  Simple chain of custody.  

If someone shows up at Court waving a document generated on their home computer and signed by their next door neighbor claiming that they own your house, do they own your house?  One could get into a hundred legalistic and farcical arguments, but the Court would simply toss the document and be done with the case out of hand because they have no way of linking it to any legitimate earlier conveyance of property rights.  There is NO CHAIN OF TITLE reliably recorded standing as evidence.

Are you starting to understand just how completely corrupt our greedy real estate banking sector had to be to even conceive of MERS in the first place?  They tried to claim that they could do the County Recorder's job on a spreadsheet in some boiler room in the basement of some cheesy strip mall office somewhere.  Any idea how many millions upon millions of homes now have NO VALID chain of title on record anywhere because of what these people did?  This is a huge mess.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 00:08 | 1871612 Careless Whisper
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MERS is the true owner of the mortgage,

Oh really? and how much does MERS pay for those motgages? anyone? anyone? That's right, they pay NOTHING. Because they don't own shit. Ms. Smith (obviously a stage name) is a fuckin' liar. MERS is a complete scam. They have ZERO employees. They own NO mortgages. All they are is an electronic database, whose accuracy has been called in to question.



Sat, 11/12/2011 - 08:52 | 1871920 johnQpublic
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like al-quaeda, only different



just an electronic database, whose accuracy(and existence) has been called into question

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 23:26 | 1871560 legal eagle
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Cases are beginning to be filed by folks who bought foreclosures and have clouded titles, the next shoe to drop

Sun, 11/13/2011 - 19:33 | 1874273 Goner
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Bevilacqua v. Rodriguez from the Massachusetts Supreme Court


Fri, 11/11/2011 - 23:08 | 1871537 jeff montanye
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has this anything to do with jacksonville's new mayor, alvin brown?  it seems a potentially positive development.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 22:07 | 1871441 cranky-old-geezer
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...which unlawfully interferes and competes with the public recording system

So where is the criminal indictment?

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 01:07 | 1871699 Dirtt
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Sometimes it is easier to nail down the civil violations.  The burden of proof is lower.

Of course any dickhead could be prosecuting the mortgage industry et al under the RICO Act.  But who in their right mind would go toe to toe with the mafia. Even Marco Rubio knows two courses of action: 1) Keep your nose out 2) Keep your nose clean.


Fri, 11/11/2011 - 20:14 | 1871291 jez
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I wonder if this "Janis Smith" exists, or if it is a robo-spokesperson.

Suspiciously generic-sounding name. Bit like "Linda Green".

". . . the promissory note is not, and has never been, and is not . . ."

See, the robot hiccuped there. A human spokesperson wouldn't produce garbage like that.

Sat, 11/12/2011 - 08:54 | 1871922 johnQpublic
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sure they would


see presidential debates for proof of this point

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