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The Consequences When Three Elements Collided

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By Wolf Richter   www.testosteronepit.com

Detlev Hager, a German executive of Daimler AG in the US on a business trip, was driving his rental car to the Mercedes-Benz manufacturing plant near Tuscaloosa, Alabama, when he was pulled over by a police officer. The tag on his rental car had expired. When the police officer asked to see his driver's license, he didn't have it on him. He'd forgotten it at his hotel. So he produced his German federal I.D. card, the only document required to cross borders in the 27-country European Union. It identifies his citizenship as "Deutsch." Could he prove that he was in the US legally?

Off to the hoosegow. His passport with the immigration form I-9 and airport stamp was at the hotel along with his driver’s license. Under Alabama's tough new immigration law, HB56, a police officer has to check the immigration status of traffic scofflaws (driving a vehicle with an expired tag, driving without a driver’s license). Sure, it would have been easier and cheaper to accompany the foreign gentleman to his hotel room, politely check his passport and driver’s license, apologetically write up a warning, and go on with life. But that’s not what the law had in mind. No discrimination, just because the guy had a German accent, rather than, say, a Spanish accent. Same treatment for all.

Alas, Mercedes-Benz employs 3,000 people at its plant—a big number for Tuscaloosa’s metro area of only 219,000 residents—and has plans to invest another $2 billion in the state by 2014. Its decision in 1993 to build a production plant there was partly motivated by ultra-low wages in the state. Subsequently, Honda, Hyundai, and Toyota also built assembly plants there. And about 350 automotive-related manufacturers have sprouted up around them.

The arrest of the Mercedes-Benz executive threw a pall over Alabama’s efforts to court foreign companies with tax incentives, low wages, and agreeable union laws. Already, the state’s financial reputation was bruised badly when Jefferson County declared bankruptcy on November 9.

And the new immigration law is highly controversial: parts of it—schools having to check the immigration status of students and parents, for example—have been crushed in Federal Court; other provisions are still tangled up in court. The intention of the law is to keep illegal immigrants out and reserve their jobs for Americans or legal immigrants. It’s a crowd-pleaser for the Republican base, and almost all Republican legislators voted for it. The law soon began accomplishing what it was designed to do: fearful illegal immigrants looked for greener pastures elsewhere, and incoming waves were having second thoughts.

The side effects were immediate: it put the Republican Party at loggerheads ... with itself. Its most munificent supporter, the business community, began screaming. They were losing their unlimited supply of cheap workers who were in no position to complain about anything—the ideal workforce. Business leaders griped about labor shortages—instead of raising wages and benefits to where they’d be attractive to Americans or legal immigrants. And now, to top it off, the arrest of a perfectly legal executive of one of the most prestigious companies in the world, who'd forgotten his passport and driver’s license at the hotel!

The status-quo media used the incident to fire off a broadside against HB56. And suddenly, widespread Republican flip-flopping has broken out. Their conundrum: they don't want their largest donors to turn off the spigot, but outright repeal, which would infuriate their rank and file, isn't in the cards either.

Using the hapless Detlev Hager to attack the law, however, is silly. If the law should be attacked, it should be for the right reasons. Hager was driving without driver’s license, which might have gotten him in trouble in any state—it certainly would have in Germany. And as well-traveled executive, he should have known to have his passport on him. Even Mercedes-Benz admitted as much when it commented that it would educate its people better on what documents to carry in Alabama. Which is always the easiest solution: just observe the law.

Meanwhile, the charge against Hager was dismissed after he produced his passport in municipal court, and Mercedes-Benz spokeswoman Felyicia Jerald told reporters that he'd returned to Germany. No doubt, getting arrested the American way was an experience he'll never forget. And the police officer? I can’t help but think that he was trying to make a point.

In what may be a precursor of a monumental shift, Toyota and Honda are planning to export US-made vehicles to South Korea; it's cheaper to produce cars in Alabama and ship them halfway around the world than it is to produce them in Japan. But to what banana-republic levels will the dollar and real wages have to sink before US manufacturing is competitive with China? The Price of Hope in the Mayhem of American Manufacturing.

Wolf Richter   www.testosteronepit.com

 

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Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:30 | 1915067 Everyman
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"And the new immigration law is highly controversial: parts of it—schools having to check the immigration status of students and parents, for example—have been crushed in Federal Court;"

"The law that created the uproar is Alabama’s HB 56, which prohibits “business transactions” between the state and anyone unable to provide documentation of their citizenship or legal immigration status. It also allows police to check the immigration status of anyone stopped for a traffic violation.

Section 30 of the law requires mobile home owners to prove their lawful citizenship or residency status before they can renew their mobile home tags."

 

So you are so wrong, most was upheld, an only the "Mobile Home Registration" by illegals was rescinded.  All the rest are in like flint.

 

Yours is the most tortured post I have seen on this blog in years, and totally  misinformed.

 

 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 10:24 | 1915003 Plumplechook
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Fuck this Nazi cunt and his shitty company's exploitation of cheap American labour.   And fuck Alabama too for being complicit in the exploitation.   These bastards will not be satisified until they have a compliant slave workforce who will work for pennies an hour to produce stuff even cheaper than the crap being produced in the Chinese slave factories.

These pricks will not be satisfied until they have turned the US into a nation of third world peasants.

 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:05 | 1915041 SamAdams1234
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Arbeit macht frei: New slogan for its American plants.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 09:53 | 1914967 Fix It Again Timmy
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I'm from the government, I'm here to help you.... The following was taken from an article on the www:

"I tried to change the address on my driver’s license, per the law in my state which requires license holders to notify the department of licensing within ten days of their move, of their new address. After trying for an hour to explain to the lady at the counter at the DMV as well as her supervisor, as well as their state supervisor, that the only address I will have is that of my private mail box because I won’t actually be living in any particular place and will be traveling for the next year or two, they finally concluded that they couldn’t help me since there were no rules for them to follow governing such a situation. Which led me to a couple of conclusions…one, customer service and logical thinking is sadly lacking in this government-run organization. And two, if they can’t even figure out an address problem, I would hate to see what the government does if they are running the entire health care system. Scary. This makes me an even bigger fan of the less government/more free enterprise fan club."

Ringo's Law - "Everything the government touches, turns to crap."

Any Government bureau - "Take a number and go to the end of the line."

Small business owner in his shop - "How may I help you?"

Governments are efficient and effective: What do you think about that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1ZXIGoQnI&feature=related

 

 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 08:46 | 1914911 Hannibal
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Asking for permission and/or taking orders is giving up your autonomy.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 03:39 | 1914797 honestann
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Why can't people stand back, look at the whole situation, ask themselves "what is right", and advocate that.  Do people have a right to travel?  Yes.  Can government have a legitimate right to impede travel (require license, registration, etc)?  No.  Do people have a right to get free goods and services from other people without permission (either directly or via government intermediary)?  No.

Asking, answering and understanding just those few simple, fundamental topics leads to a rational solution to the situations described in this article, as well as thousands of other common situations that people fight about endlessly.

No need to stop immigration, or to distinguish between "legal" and "illegal" immigration.  Humans have at least as much right to "cross arbitrary borders" on the earth as birds and jack rabbits do.  And almost nobody would care if all government "services" were "by subscription" (that is, payment for the service is voluntary, and only those who subscribe and pay receive those services).

No need to create and worry about false distinctions, look around and ask yourself about every freaking human you see "where was this dude born" or "what papers does he carry in his wallet", and so forth.  Why?  Because you aren't being forced to pay for their education, their health care, their retirement, etc.

In other words, the "fictitious entity" known as "government" is the cause of virtually all problems today, and certainly the ones described in this article.  The appropriate behavior of individual versus individual has nothing to do with anything except how those individuals treat each other.  Period.  By stealing from some to buy votes from others, the predators-that-be create endless friction, hatred, troubles, expenses, inefficiencies, dislocations and lower quality of life for everyone from the inexperienced to the most talented and productive.

Drop all the red herrings and get to the fundamental issues.  Otherwise everyone just wastes their brainpower, their breath and their typing fingers.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 06:22 | 1914849 dolly madison
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And almost nobody would care if all government "services" were "by subscription" (that is, payment for the service is voluntary, and only those who subscribe and pay receive those services).

I think if there were no social services people would still care because I hear so many people say that the illegals are taking our jobs.

How about we add to those questions of yours, should people be able to live somewhere even if they have no money?  They must exist somewhere.  I've been pondering the notion of private property lately.  I am a landlord, so I would have a lot to lose if I could not charge people money to live in my private property.  By being a landlord, I am able to pass my slave duties onto others.  When I first got into it all the properties I owned, had mortgages, so I was just helping the renters be slaves for the bankers, but over time I wised up and bought less expensive properties outright instead of having mortgages.

So, after all these years of working for a place to live, I found a way to pass that work on to others.  And now I ponder why should any of us at all have to pay for a place to live.  Animals don't have to pay for a place to be.  Of course, if other people build the house, their labor is worth paying for, but I'm really talking about the land.  Right now, the top 1% own vastly more land than the rest of us.  They're trying to buy up water rights like crazy.  What will we do when we have nowhere to be and no water to drink without money?

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:53 | 1915121 blunderdog
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And now I ponder why should any of us at all have to pay for a place to live.  Animals don't have to pay for a place to be.  Of course, if other people build the house, their labor is worth paying for, but I'm really talking about the land.  Right now, the top 1% own vastly more land than the rest of us.  They're trying to buy up water rights like crazy. 

Sounds like you should check out the ideas of Henry George--among other things, he held that property taxation should be based on unimproved property values, because the increase in real estate valuation based on construction by the owner was "rightly" the direct possession of the landowner.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 08:31 | 1914904 honestann
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If the country or world was free, there would be endless jobs for everyone.  Only the artificial environment created by the predators-that-be and predator-class create conditions in which large-scale joblessness can exist.

Yes, people should be able to "live somewhere" if they have no money, but they might need to settle for a tent, sleeping bag and some blankets if they refuse to work for a living.  In particular, it is unethical to claim that people cannot live on and be stewards of empty, unused land, but the government created laws to stop them and force them into cities and towns.

However, if you (or anyone) creates AKA produces something, of course you "own" that property.  Ditto for anything you acquire by trading goods you produced.  So you certainly are ethical being a landlord for example.  What you do with houses you built or bought is your business.

You are correct to question the schemes created by the banksters and their agents (people in government).  They have created so many artificial dislocations via fiat money and fractional reserve practices that figuring out what is ethical when it comes to operating a business (including property rental) on the basis of loans just about impossible.  Your solution to buy property you can afford is an excellent solution, but not everyone follows your good example.

Yes, nobody created or produced land, so nobody should be able to own land in the same sense they own other goods they produce or trade for.  The appropriate way to deal with land is similar to the way things worked before 50 years ago - people could simply claim empty, unused, unclaimed land.  Though they called this "ownership", the fact is, the law considered it more like "stewardship", which is what is ethical.  People should still be able to "claim stewardship" to empty, unused land, and keep that stewardship as long as they are actively maintaining and improving and making productive use of that land.  As the old time ethical laws worked, anyone who left land unoccupied and unimproved (even if only a portion of "their land"), that land became available for others to "claim stewardship" and take over.  That is ethical.  That is the way it should be.

But the banksters created the current system (making land "cost money") so people needed to borrow more and more and more money to "own property".  This has been the pattern in spades since 1913, though ethics was being eroding somewhat even before then.

You are on to a very good point, one I have addressed here in ZH from time to time.  If not for the burdens imposed by the predators-that-be and predator-class, people could live "the good life" for about 1/5 what they pay now.  Which means, almost nobody would need to be poor, and moderately productive people would live a what is considered a very luxurious life today.

The banksters and their agents must go.  Otherwise planet earth will soon become a permanent slave planet with no hope for anyone but the predators.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 02:20 | 1914737 PulauHantu29
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I bet he will not "forget" his driver's license next time, eh.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:23 | 1914510 Coldfire
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<<cue banjos>>

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:54 | 1914552 bill1102inf
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+1,108,564

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:09 | 1914488 CTG_Sweden
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In the late 1960s, minimum wage in the US was about twice as high as today, adjusted for inflation. An American worker who got minimum wage in the late 1960s made more money than a Swedish or Danish worker who got the lowest wage negotiated by the trade unions. Today, a Swedish or Danish worker who gets lowest union negotiated wage makes twice as much as an American minimum wage worker. The Norwegian equivalent makes three times as much. (Since trade unions are so strong in Scandinavia, almost no companies pay the workers less than the wages negotiated by the trade unions. There is no minimum wage in Sweden.)

The law of supply and demand works in the labour market just as in other markets. But the majority of the voters do not understand that and nobody with enough credibility tells them that.

If the Americans had not begun to save less and spend more in the 1980s and if the Federal Reserve had not printed money in order to cover for the budget deficits, the consequences of reduced wages in the United States would have been more obvious. 

Furthermore, I think that Sweden may be headed in the same direction as the US. But the methods used in Sweden to hide the consequences of oversupply of labour are different. The principal methods used in Sweden are to cut payroll taxes for some categories in the labour market and to cut value added taxes in labour intensive businesses so that these sectors of the labour market can absorb more people.

I don´t think that the principal reason for oversupply in the labour market is that big business wants cheap labour. You can get cheap labour almost anywhere on this planet. Industries that are not labour intensive do not benefit that much from cheap labour. Remember that Henry Ford in 1913/14 paid his workers 5 dollars a day voluntarily. Since an entry-level Model T sold for $ 550 that meant that 110 days of work was the equivalent of the sales price of a Ford Model T. And since Ford workers made twice as much money as other workers this means that they could save enough money to buy a brand new Ford Model T in about 200 days.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 01:06 | 1914646 monoloco
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They won't be happy until we have Chinse maquiladoras in the USA.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:58 | 1914632 SeanJKerrigan
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Good post.

Also, lets say I go back in time 40 years and see a small kitchen table for say $50. It was made in the US. Now I go back to the future and see a similar table for $50, only made in China. I'm paying the same price, but the objective cost to make it is much less. So there is no inflation on the cost of this table, but really the dollar has been devalued, its just invisible because its being produced differently. Does this not account for a sort of hidden devaluation of the dollar? Shouldn't prices be falling faster, and if the Fed's responsibility is to keep price inflation steady, wouldn't that necessitate a dollar devaluation to keep the price steady?

Also, just got my custom stamp in the mail today.  Can't wait to start stamping all sorts of stuff. 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 22:48 | 1914446 navy62802
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This is going to do wonders to help the state's fiscal situation. Drive out all the foreign manufacturers. That's the Alabama brilliance I've come to know and love.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:17 | 1914238 Buck Johnson
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Welcome to the south, slowly becoming a third world hell hole just like the rest of the country.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:41 | 1914296 Long-John-Silver
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The Hell Hole is Detroit and just like a Black Hole it grows larger as wealth is sucked out of America.

You obviously do not live in the South or have had any personally dealings with any of the citizens.

Our immigration problems are no where near as bad as California but it very well could be because another Hell Hole has formed in California so everyone is leaving, including illegals that have sucked the place dry. Like Locus they have started moving to less ravaged areas. Sorry buy we "red Necks" are not going to put up with them without a fight. If that means cutting ties with the union, so be it. We did it once before and we can do it again. We also understand and remember the mistakes made the first time. The second has been well planed and prepared for. Scream about our new Immigration  Law all you like. The only thing your doing is biting a baited hook.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 02:16 | 1914732 Max Fischer
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I don't think you need to worry about an influx of illegals moving to the redneck backwaters of the South.  The Mexicans won't go there because there's too many dumb, uneducated Southerners/hillbillies competing for the same low wage jobs.  There might be a few German and Asian executives around, but they're only there to take advantage of the huge incentives offered by the state to employ their dumb, uneducated residents.  Your threats to leave the union over immigration issues are kinda funny because immigrants loathe the redneck South nearly as much as the North does. 

Max Fischer, Civis Mundi 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:57 | 1915131 Long-John-Silver
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and you my friend are the reason the 13 Confederate States and Texas will have a successful secession. In 1861 the northern attitude about the South breaking away was; OMG, there went our cheap commodities! Let's go take it away from them.

Today the attitude is completely different. When (not if) the Confederate States and Texas break away and declare independence once again the initial attitude will be; We are free of those inbred red necks! Don't assume that only these 14 States will want their independence too. The 26 States going to the Supreme Court over Obama care is proof of that. That's also the reason a second civil war will not happen. The remaining liberal states simply do not have a population that will fight one.

After a few years reality will hit home. By the time they figure out they cant' get their cheap commodities from the South because it's really expensive due to their tariff's on exported goods.

The South has all the refineries. They put export tariff's on grid power they supply. They put tolls and tariff's on all river traffic leaving the Mississippi river and charge tolls fir international shipping using the Inter coastal waterway.   Worse is the fact they demand payments in physical Gold in all transactions.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 03:36 | 1914790 The_Dude
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Always amazes me that the 'enlightened libs' can show such consideration for illegals and such loathing for their own countrymen.  Additionally, they love to insinuate that those in 'fly over country' are bigots and yet can't seem to recognize their own slurs.

Max...you little, big nosed, weak spine tool...you are a waste of my time so I will only add one thing.....one word of advice...prepare.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 05:32 | 1914835 buyingsterling
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Amen brother. Outside the south (and states of like mind) dems love their people on their knees, disarmed, and rape-ready. Who are the idiots?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:31 | 1914097 ViewfromUnderth...
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The vast majority of the Tylers' and contributors' work shows there is hope for America and the world...the comments, not so much.

The "Ignore Button" option is way overdue Tylers!

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:07 | 1914094 kaiserhoff
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If the donut muncher had a brain...

This is interesting from a justice perspective, but there are only two possibilities:

 1 The rental car is stolen, in which case, Copper has a collar, or

 2 Rental car is NOT STOLEN, in which case, Copper should jerk off elsewhere, because Driver's bona fides have recently been vetted.

Legality of said vehicle can easily be determined by a quick look at the rental agreement, which was no doubt in the glove box, or in any case, by a brief phone call.

If donut munchers had brains...

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:11 | 1914577 boiltherich
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DONUT MUNCHER alone was worth the green arrow. 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:29 | 1914271 blunderdog
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The guy could've used forged documentation to rent the car.

You advocating selective enforcement?  That does work well for our financial system.

(Maybe it was a Dim cop.)

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:09 | 1914485 kaiserhoff
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Just advocating common sense.

Did you ever hear of a Mexican with forged documents?  How about a President with a Connecticut SS number, who never lived there? 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:33 | 1914037 indio007
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First off, foreigners only need a driving permit to drive in the US. see  Vienna Convention on Road Traffic .

A drivers license isn't required to get an international driving permit.

 

In reality, this guy didn't have to show the police anything other than a permit that has no picture and isn't required to have a picture.

 

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:55 | 1914556 bill1102inf
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That does not apply in the United States.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:09 | 1914575 indio007
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The USA is a party to the 1949 Convention on Road Traffic which has even less requirements than the Vienna treaty. So your right ,my bad Geneva, is in force not Vienna.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:04 | 1914067 Whoa Dammit
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An Alabama native who gets pulled over and does not have their license with them will probably go to jail. The fact that it is illegal to drive without proof of a license has nothing to do with the new immigration law, and is not exclusive to Alabama.

Why should a MB executive get special treatment? Oh yeah, he's a 1%er and the rules don't apply.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:19 | 1914023 I did it by Occident
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the ROBOTS, won't anyone remember the robots!?

by that I mean illegal immigrant supress investment R&D in automation, therefore impede technological progress.  Surplus (unskilled) labor impedes technical development.  Why do you think the renaissance happened?  kill off a third of the labor makes labor expensive which makes "management" interested in productivity enhancing devices/machines.  Colonial and 19th century US, same thing, shortage of labor causes relatively higher wages and attracts more immigrants.  Conversely, look at China and India during the same period of the last 500 years.  Technical progress remained much slower.  Huge peasant populations don't make for high wages.  Why develop a new farm equipment when you can pay a 100 serfs barely anything to do the work?  

What I mean is, if we keep the illegals out, we won't need Americans to do that work.  As automation will largely make those jobs go away in due course.

Sun, 11/27/2011 - 00:35 | 1916828 StychoKiller
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[quote]

RICH Economy step 1:

Offer a prize of $50,000/year to any worker that designs a
machine/software/process that will replace him/her.
Offer an additional prize of $30,000/year to ALL OTHER WORKERS that get replaced.

Answering conservative objections:
1. A machine works 24/7, thereby tripling output immediately.
2. Machines do not take sick leave.
3. Machines are never late for work.
4. Machines do not form unions and constantly ask for higher wages and more fringe benefits.
5. Machines do not take vacations.
6. Machines do not harbor grudges and foul up production in sneaky, undetectable ways.
7. Cybernation was advancing every decade anyway, despite the
   opposition of Unions, government, and other Alpha males; it was
   better to have huge populations celebrating the reward of $30K
   to $50K/year for group cleverness than huge populations suffering
   the humiliation of welfare.
8. With production rising due to Cybernation, consumers were needed  and a society on welfare was a society of very meager consumers.

The majority of the unemployed, living comfortably on $30k/year, spent most of their time drinking, smoking, engaging in primate sexual acrobatics and watching TV.
When Moralists complained that this was a subhuman existence, Hubbard answered, "And what kind of existence did they have doing idiot jobs that machines do better?"

[/quote] -- R.A. Wilson

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 08:11 | 1914889 moneymutt
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Such a good point. Look at US Ag compared to third world or even Europe, it is productive and mechanized, mostly due to the previous high cost of labor and not lots of trade protections (Europe stayed les efficient vpnecuase non mechanized family farmer was assure high income). Apparently we owe gratitude for this to old time family farms that had no source of suoer cheap labor brcause back in the 50s and 60s there were lots of good paying jobs/alternatives for low skill labor and we owe gratitude to Ceasar Chavez, among others, becuase the one cheap source of labor demanded more money via organized boycotts etc. When there were no cheap labor sources left,, the farming that could be mechanized was, making US waaaay more productive than rest of world.

However, the problem is, the productivity gains made thru industrialization and computer technology , which take away drudge hard labor and mind numbing drudge paper work and make food and consumer products cheaper,these gains do not go all to the regular worker or geneal econmy, genarl common wealth. Yes food and consumer goods and some service get cheaper, deflate with innovation and efficiencies, and many jobs are less onerous than 100 years ago, but wages go down too, and the whole cycle starts again, and then there is cheap labor again. If all the benefit of industrialization and technology accrued to everyone equally, we all could be affording a good middle class life for a short work week, but instead most of the benefit accrues to already connected corporations and families, and a few lucky, talented,smarties that pop up from masses in a winner-takes-all economy. No conspiracies needed, technology is good in making things efficient, but the gains of those efficiencies do not rain on all. And even while food and consumer goods and some services get cheaper, deflated (like even a working class person can have a cell phone or a powerful netbook) the increasing cost of other things extract wages and keep people from secure middle class lifestyles, like price of housing, price of education, price of health care...so all the gains in the price of stuff coming down, have been lost in the price of hosuing, education and health care, things that, in our society, are less discretionary than a TV or a wash machine or a cell phone. Everyday things like wash machines, are much cheaper, as a percentage of wages than 30 years ago, even including food, but hosuing and education and health care are much more expensive. Two working educated professionals have more financial pressures than a family from the 60s had with one HS educated, low skill father working. He could buy a house, a car, feed his family, educate his kids, get health care and have a pension without wife working, just by walking out of HS grad and showing up to a job everyday, no hustle, no special talents, no extraordinary luck needed, and voila, secure middle class lifestyle, decent house in decent neighborhood.

It seems Germany, Japan, Nordic countries, have it figured out better than us, they are industrialized, innovative, and export to the whole world, their businesses compete with China and win, everyday, and yet ther workers have secure middle class lifestyles, women in Japan are discriminated against, bu if married, don't have to work for household to get buy. Working class wages in Europe are 50 percent or 100 percent higher than US and yet they sell cars, erc, just fine. These countries middle clas have cheap education, cheap health care, no fear do medical bankruptcy, pensions, 6 weeks of vacation etc....it seems their technology and industrialization has benefitted the common wealth more.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 18:17 | 1914020 BernankeHasHemo...
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This is what happens when you let meth-addicted white trash vote. Can we send everyone in Alabama off to China as slaves? Maybe they can grind them up into hamburger for fast food - at least their fat asses will finally be good for something. Why is it all the A states (Alabama, Arizona, Alaska) rank so high in stupidity? A for Asshole?

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 09:52 | 1914966 lamont cranston
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If we suck sooooo bad down here, why isn't there an influx of retirees streaming into Wisconsin and Michigan? And tell me about all those new automobile plants being built in Flint and Eau Claire, pleeeese. OH - there aren't any? Hmmmm, must be due to no right to work legislation.

A policeman doing his job is not going to curb foriegn investment in AL. I was in Birmingham the other week and the Birmingham Business Journal had an editorial bemoaning the new immigration law, which has wide support within the state.

You'd better behave or we'll send that happily transplanted Midwesterner Les Miles and his LSU Football Team to whip every damn Liberal Yankee's ass.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 23:02 | 1914463 cents gradeschool
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This is what happens when you let meth-addicted white trash vote. Can we send everyone in Alabama off to China as slaves? Maybe they can grind them up into hamburger for fast food - at least their fat asses will finally be good for something. Why is it all the A states (Alabama, Arizona, Alaska) rank so high in stupidity? A for Asshole?

Mestizo Troll.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:01 | 1914122 saiybat
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Lay off the soylent green.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 21:47 | 1914319 Long-John-Silver
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Thank you for telling everyone why the next Secession of the 13 Confederate States and Texas will be a roaring success. The resulting break-up of the USA will be a happy event for everyone involved. the attitude of the people not in the South will be Thank God their gone. the attitude in the South will be Thank God we are free.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:28 | 1913934 JamesBond
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i travel internationally all the time.

rule number 1 -

always have your passport!

 

what a dumbass.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:08 | 1914572 boiltherich
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No argument there JB, and even more so considering he is German and the Germans are so passport centered when you go to Germany, you can't get a hotel room without one.  But, most of us have left the house at least once without our wallets.  It can happen.  But, the behavior of the cop was inexcusable.  If I were Diamler's board/CEO I would call the governor of Alabama and make damned sure nothing like it ever happened again or the next plant will be built in Tennessee. 

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 12:12 | 1915160 The Alarmist
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Wake up dude, I have been asked for ID at US hotels for the past several years. I also get more questions each time I re-enter the US than I got crossing into East Germany in 1988, and I am a US citizen. Getting around Germany today is a cakewalk compared to traveling in the US.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 17:35 | 1913949 kaiserhoff
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If the same applied to illegal Columbians, Nicaraguans, Mexicans, etc. in the States, I might agree with you.  But what risks are they taking by being criminals here?

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 19:31 | 1913883 kaiserhoff
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The cop was an idiot, and so is the author.  The criminals and hypocrites are the Dims, who refuse to enforce immigration laws, so they can import an infinite number of third world beggars, the better to replace the current, unruly population, who can actually read the Constitution.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:21 | 1914152 El Yunque
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Right now we've already passed the 400,000 mark in deportation at $12k a body. Higher rate of enforcement than we've had in years.

Real bargain, ain't it?

I'm a dim; read the fucking news moron.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 01:41 | 1914686 Freddie
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You are a moron Dem who reads Holder and Big Sis's propaganda. Not taht Bush was much better or Clinton or the old man. All Skull and Bones scum with one muslim bonesman.

Fri, 11/25/2011 - 20:28 | 1914162 kaiserhoff
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And at least 11 million to go, by the Dims count.  My taxes pay for a ridiculous number of cops, who are, at the moment, mostly engaged in busting the heads of those trying to exercise free speech.

I read plenty of lefty/New Yawk propaganda.  Get a real job, dip shit.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 12:17 | 1915168 The Alarmist
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There were 20 million just a couple years ago ... Has Big O and his posse so thoroughly messed things up that 10 m or so have gone home?

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 00:20 | 1914592 El Yunque
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Kaiserhoff, I will try to play nicer.

The way I see it, the illegall grandstanding is a diversion from the real fucking crimes going on here. At best, that 11 million is a state and local problem, and if you've ever spent any time in "Los Colinias" you'll undertsand what an complete shithole it is, and how hard it is to pay a Border Patrol agent to live and work there whereas his or her chances of ending up dead are better than getting rich, mostly.

Since the right is borrowing money, cutting taxes, and outsourcing this shit to guys that are going to make a profit doing it in black instead of green, chances are it's going to cost you some more bucks for your outrage.

Beyond that, driving around the south on a regular basis as a member of the Waffle House demographic, I can tell there are more than a few folks in law enforcement that are going to ruin your day if you left your wallet and papers on a counter at the last TA Travel center, when you get pulled over for a weight check and said officer is having himself a bad day. The law is on his side for his shitty attitude and yours.

You end up in the pokey for needing to shit badly enough that said wallet gets left behind in a fecal emergency.

I know this because it happened to me in AZ before their fucking law took effect, but Barney escorted me back to said TA to fetch my papers. We talked about just such an occurance.

It is assumed all officers will exercise the law with prudence. As we've seen and you mention, we might just be on the wrong end of the handcuffs for having a shitty meeting with the law.

When the right speaks of less government in our lives, this ain't a good fucking example.

Yes immigration is a problem, but not nearly as big a problem as the whole fucking world being about to implode because we're more concerned about a few million pickers, and not the few thousand pickers picking our bones clean wtih less law not more.

I'm being fucked by bankers, not illegals.

Capiche'?

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