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Democrats: Here’s How to Force President Obama to Debate Endless War, Assaults on Our Freedom and the Out-Of-Control Fed
We voted for Obama because we wanted change.
We voted for Obama because he promised to end Bush’s perpetual wars,
clean up the mess which Bush’s financial tzars made, and restore the
freedom and liberty which Bush attacked.
Instead, Obama:
- Is implementing the Neocons plans for war throughout the Middle East
- Is prosecuting fewer financial crimes than under either Bush or Reagan
- Has appointed the very Wall Street insiders who helped cause the financial crisis to top posts. See this, this, this and this.
- Allowed the Fed to dramatically expand its powers.
As I pointed out in September, Americans overwhelmingly want:
- The Federal Reserve to be reined in if not abolished
- The never-ending, open-ended, goalpost-moving wars to stop and the troops to be brought home
- Our liberties to be restored, and the martial law indefinite detention idiocy to be reversed
As I pointed out in October:
Obama – just like the other pimps in D.C. – has institutionalized fraud as an official (if unspoken) party platform.
Americans want our liberties restored, our troops brought home, and the Fed reined in. But Obama has implemented plans for war throughout the Middle East crafted by the Neoconservatives a decade (or more) ago, and gotten us into 7 (oops …8) wars, attacked our liberties even more than Bush and allowed the Fed to dramatically expand its powers.
Americans didn’t want bailouts, but Obama helped to facilitate trillions in direct and hidden bailouts.
Obama doesn’t support the 99%. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
And as I wrote
last month, Obama was heckled by Occupy protesters for allowing police
brutality and mass arrests of the peaceful protesters, and because:
Banks got bailed out. We got sold out.
FORGET PARTISAN POLITICS: DEMAND A REAL DEBATE
Forget what you’ve been taught … the mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans are virtually identical on all core matters.
Obama, Gingrich, Romney and the whole sorry lot are for more war, for
further crackdowns on our Constitutional liberties, and for giving the
Federal Reserve all of the unchecked power that it wants.
Don’t fall for the old divide-and-conquer trick.
Whatever you may think of Ron Paul, he has consistently championed
three core American for three decades. Paul has consistently argued for
the following three positions which Americans overwhelmingly favor:
- Stop the never-ending, open-ended, goalpost-moving wars
- Restore our liberties, and stop the march towards martial law, indefinite detention idiocy, and the crack down on the Internet
- Rein in or abolish the Federal Reserve
None of the other Republican (or Democratic) candidates support these positions, and the mainstream media has done everything it can to try to squelch debate on these issues.
HOW TO GUARANTEE A REAL DEBATE
Even if you intend to vote for Obama in 2012, you want him to have to
answer debate questions on these issues … and you want the mainstream
media to have to discuss them.
How can you do this?
Initially, Obama has the Democratic party nomination locked up. So Democratic primaries are not an issue.
So register as a Republican for one-year only to – as Huffington Post notes – ensure that Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination.
Even if you’ve never done so before and never will again (we all know
how bad the mainstream Republican party has been!), register one time
as a Republican to vote for Paul in the primaries.
Why?
If Paul gets the nomination, then he will debate President Obama in the election itself. Then
3 of the issues that are important to all of us – ending the stupid
wars, restoring freedom on the Internet and in the real world, and
reining in the out-of-control Fed – will finally be discussed.
Whether or not you want President Obama to be re-elected, we all
want him to be forced to answer tough questions about endless war, the
ongoing drift towards a police state, and the unaccountable Fed.
Helping Ron Paul get the GOP nomination is the way to do so.
Click here for state-by-state instructions.
Note: While many progressives and liberals
like Ron Paul, this essay does not focus on actually trying to elect
him, only to force a real debate of the issues so that President Obama
has to address them.
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You voted for Obama twiice? What clueless fkktard.
McCain, Graham-nesty and Gingrich are just as bad.
...If Paul gets the nomination, then he will debate President Obama in the election itself. Then 3 of the issues that are important to all of us – ending the stupid wars, restoring freedom on the Internet and in the real world, and reining in the out-of-control Fed – will finally be discussed.
Whether or not you want President Obama to be re-elected, we all
want him to be forced to answer tough questions about endless war, the ongoing drift towards a police state, and the unaccountable Fed...
That's one hell of an assumption if you think this debate would actually be covered in the mainstream media.
Fuck the mainstream media, we'll have the debate without them. At work, in the pub, on the street, where ever it takes.
I don't know if you have noticed, but the people have started to figure out the mainstream media is not on their side. When that dickhead OReilly says he's 'looking out for the folks', he means the folks that sign his checks.
Agree 100% and noticed a long time ago. I have been doing my part to spread the word and will continue to do so.
watch this, theyre positioning rp against obama now, he's going to be the gop nominee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMHBEAeNa-c&feature=youtu.be
that's the sort of ad obama will be facing and that's the type of messaging that will take votes away from obama in ohio, virginia, Pennsylvania, Indiana, maybe even nevada and Florida.
full disclosure: not voting
"a foreign policy of peace and prosperity". hope and change indeed.
edit: for those interested, he is having a town hall event in new hampshire in 15 minutes live on cspan
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Ron-Paul-Campaigns-in-New-Hampshire/1073742...
powerful. thanks for the youtube link.
I dunno who you say is the "we" in "we voted for Obama". All you had to do to figure this guy out is to see where he was educated, how he was brought up, who his friends were, where he went to church, how he voted ("present") in congress, what his Liberal rating was...add it all up and you have exactly what he is and what he is doing. No real surprises here. GW, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Granted the R's put up a non-candidate.
But please do not include me in your apology !!!!!
pretty soon, if not already, posting to ZH will be considered low-level terrorism
Most sense you have made all week. And it sucks that you're correct.
Site Admin better get ready for SOPA. Hopfully you will provide instructions on how to get here via IP address. How to use the HOSTs file in Windows to make it permenant and have back-up DNS servers with a service company.
It's like the motherfuckers in Washington are getting ready to jam "that Goddamn Piece of paper" down our throats. They really mean it too.
It was not an apology, and there are still a lot of Republicans leaning towards voting for people other than Ron Paul in the primaries.
And anyway, George W. Bush was just Obama's first two terms!
RP for the GOP, then the POT to the US of E.
(A doesn't ryme and we lost it with the Constitution.
Thanks for the post GW. Many independents support RP and they should have the opportunity to vote for him. The Florida primary is in January and the deadline is Jan 3 for changing party registration. Thanks for the links, here's the direct one for Florida;
http://www.bluerepublican.org/welcome-to-blue-republican/florida/
I have lots of friends there and I'm going to let them know about this opportunity.
Occupy Psychopaths: The Power Above You
Bye Bye Miss American Pie
POTUS 0 Will Sign Away Your Rights: Change you can believe in: Wake up & smell your Constitution-free future
The article smartly points out the underlying argument; free choice or freedom is the problem... that people, acting in their own best interest is bad. The President Declares Freedom & Free Markets Dead - What You Need To Know.
See Obama's record on prosecuting Financial Fraud
$7.77 Trillion: American Kleptocracy - Goodbye Middle Class
This is interesting because the Club of Rome decided it was People that were the problem. So the purveyors of the New World Order Of Debt Slavery Economics believe people in general and more to the point free people are the problem.
All of man's most insane behaviors should be on full display in the next several years. Good luck!
I'm about as progressive as they come and I plan to go door to door to try and get Ron Paul elected. The guy is honest and not corrupt. At the very least he would shake things up.
We NEED THAT.
And I'm a hard core nationalist conservative and I'm about to do the same.
I give a fuck about social issues this time around. Let's focus on DEBT. (We'll settle social issues LATER, like when we have a country)
Too bad that GW is wasting his time with this post. There are almost no Democrats on this site.
And thank GOD for that.
And STFU w/your left/right crap
GW, In the past I stuck up for you when posters jumped on you. For proof check my previous postings.
NO MORE.
Your thought process is/has been a polar opposite to my personal and financial well being.
I absolutely will not under any circumstances read your drivel any more.
You are in fact my enemy and as such will be handled that way. Fuck you sideways with a freight train loser.
Same goes for Bruce Krastling.
good you self righteous pompous moron -now go away--go hang out on the nartional Review or Weekly Standard blogs. Their are plenty of pathetic ignorant morons on those boards you can commiserate with
You want Ron Paul to LOSE??? If you do then, yes, we disagree ...
No GW, I do not want Dr. Paul to lose.
What's with reading comprehension skills- or lack there of?
My point is you -over the years-got exactly what YOU VOTED FOR.
Now you bitch,
IT was your voting record over decades that helped put all these policies in place.
NOT MINE.
Mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans are virtually identical on all core matters.
The mainstream Republican party hates Paul.
You're intentioally being thick as a brick.
It is only in the last 10-15 years your opposition morphed into. yes, one party
Coincidentally, that is when I gave up.
James,
You might want to study about party voting records and historical party policies. They have been the same for atleast 90 years. Before that, they worked in collusion. They are two sides of the same fascism.
Sean7k, don't doubt that you are right in your statement.
I guess I'm guilty of only looking back in the 55 years I've been around.
I do remember, however, a better time in the U.S,
I will admit to being fooled al these years.
You see, I started working when I was 9 yrs. old so that allowed me to buy crap my friends did'nt have because I worked.
My second car was a 1938 Chevy 2 door coupe Ithat I rebuilt w/a modern drivetrain.
My corp. was started when I was 20 yrs. old.
I did real well for yrs until suddenly the market started driving my pay down to where now I'm done.
For me It's been gradually getting worse financially for twenty yrs. to the point we all are now.
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out Fascist.
Larry McDonald was in a airplane that was shot down a few months after this crossfire episode where he goes after the CFR and purveyors of world government.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BPhYEFGaGM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Coo-coo. Coo-coo. Hey. Is there a clock going off somewhere?
Ron Paul could unite Tea Party and OWS and that scares the living shit out of both Parties. If he wins Iowa they will come after him with knives out. He will be a Homophobe and a Homosexual before they are done with him.
Ron has already some good by outing Fox News. I know people who thought Fox was straight up, until they saw them purposely pretend he didn't exist. Now they are questioning Fox's agenda, that's a good thing.
Hang in there, Ron, it's about time someone shook those pricks up.
Bwaaaaa-haaaaa-haaaa! Stop it. You're killing me!
ALL of TV and All of Hollywood are the same. Fox is Al Waleed aka Saudi Arabia and so is the majority of all US TV. When Rebecca Brooks was fired and News of the World was shut down - Al Waleed made the call over Murdoch.
The Saudis have ownership and major deals in all of the US TV Networks which own almost every channel. Fox is a joke like CNN, MSNBC and all the rest.
i happened to be listening to rush limbaugh today and was surprised to hear that some republicans are thinking of trying to trot out jeb bush.
i suspect that is because they understand that gingrich has lost traction, cain is out, and perry imploded.
i think there is a real fear of ron paul in BOTH parties-which is a very good thing.
I pretty much wrote off Limbaugh. Trying to retread open-borders Jeb was the last straw. No one will buy that. Newt is a MEGA POS. Newt got Poppy years ago to campaign for the NWO lackey they ran against Ron Paul. Ron won. The Senate is filled with this vermin including McCain, Graham and another open-boders La Raza in Rubio. Rubio is a Bush puppet.
Go ahead and try to run Jeb. He will not get off the launch pad. He sucks. No more Bushes.
that explains that sad piece in the WSJ.
Was the final wake up call for me in 2007. Now the daily bell has more influence on me than any msm outlet.
I stopped reading when you indicated you had voted for Obama. Why should I be interested in the musings of someone so easily taken in by a charlatan? Those who voted for him are nearly a naive as he is.
Yeah because life would have been sooo much better under the psycho McCain.
Yeah -world war 3 would have come and gone already - for those of us who survived -if any of us-there would be a chance for a new world order. A chance to start over and renew ourselves. Yes Mccain was a psycho- but so was Clinton -a cocaine addicted serial rapist -ans=d so was Bush - a cocaine addicted psycho pervert whose personal life is less known -and so is Obama -a cocaine addicted homo-whose gays lovers (other than Rahm Emmnauel and Larry Franklin) all met mysterious deaths in 2007 as Obama geared up to run for President.
Thank you George. Thank you Zerohedge.
Thank you posters.
The only thing better for America than Paul vs. Obama debates would be a Paul victory.
"Note: While many progressives and liberals like Ron Paul, this essay does not focus on actually trying to elect him, only to force a real debate of the issues so that President Obama has to address them."
Yeah! That'll work! Just as he kept all of his promises for positive change that he made in his 2008 campaign, he'll keep his promises _next time_ after some fantasy debate gets him to address in large part the things he lied about last time.
Get a f'ing clue...
The only candidate in the running right now who would actually change anything for the better would be Ron Paul and he has a Snowball's chance in a CAT scanner of getting elected. Same for any Libertarian candidate.
Exactly! Obama lied like fucking rug the first time around and will do so again.
This is why there needs to be a major party overhaul, perhaps moving to a three party system.
1) left-wing part of Democrats breaks off to form Labor-Socialist Party
2) Blue-Dog Dems and Moderate Repubs merge to form Mainline Party
3) right-wing part of Republican and Libertarian parties merge to form Constitution Party
Not one question was asked in the last Rep debate about the Iraq or Afghanistan Wars and the trillions of money (and lives) that were wasted.
I thought that was odd.
the good news is that it looks like Ron Paul will be our next president.
Not one question about Indefinite Detentions of US Citizens lawfully living in the US, either.
Andy Jackson fought them; 4 assassination attempts. Abe and JFK got whacked; presumably by set-up patsies or scapegoats; typical of the Rothschilds ---this family's history is replete with similar examples; the Reagan attempt is still unclear. The Polish and Lebanese pols, Qaddafi and many others were hit according to plan.
WTF: doesn't anyone believe that if Dr Paul got the nomination, he'd have a convenient accident or heart attack? Get real.
Poppy Bush was supposed to be the annointed one being skull & bones and CIA. Reagan fouled up that plan and they got back at Reagan.
Convenient accident? I think if Dr. Paul gets nominated they'll publicly execute him. I don't think they'd want it to be misunderstood.
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Probably a Muslim extremist terrorist will be blamed.