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Democrats: Here’s How to Force President Obama to Debate Endless War, Assaults on Our Freedom and the Out-Of-Control Fed
We voted for Obama because we wanted change.
We voted for Obama because he promised to end Bush’s perpetual wars,
clean up the mess which Bush’s financial tzars made, and restore the
freedom and liberty which Bush attacked.
Instead, Obama:
- Is implementing the Neocons plans for war throughout the Middle East
- Is prosecuting fewer financial crimes than under either Bush or Reagan
- Has appointed the very Wall Street insiders who helped cause the financial crisis to top posts. See this, this, this and this.
- Allowed the Fed to dramatically expand its powers.
As I pointed out in September, Americans overwhelmingly want:
- The Federal Reserve to be reined in if not abolished
- The never-ending, open-ended, goalpost-moving wars to stop and the troops to be brought home
- Our liberties to be restored, and the martial law indefinite detention idiocy to be reversed
As I pointed out in October:
Obama – just like the other pimps in D.C. – has institutionalized fraud as an official (if unspoken) party platform.
Americans want our liberties restored, our troops brought home, and the Fed reined in. But Obama has implemented plans for war throughout the Middle East crafted by the Neoconservatives a decade (or more) ago, and gotten us into 7 (oops …8) wars, attacked our liberties even more than Bush and allowed the Fed to dramatically expand its powers.
Americans didn’t want bailouts, but Obama helped to facilitate trillions in direct and hidden bailouts.
Obama doesn’t support the 99%. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
And as I wrote
last month, Obama was heckled by Occupy protesters for allowing police
brutality and mass arrests of the peaceful protesters, and because:
Banks got bailed out. We got sold out.
FORGET PARTISAN POLITICS: DEMAND A REAL DEBATE
Forget what you’ve been taught … the mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans are virtually identical on all core matters.
Obama, Gingrich, Romney and the whole sorry lot are for more war, for
further crackdowns on our Constitutional liberties, and for giving the
Federal Reserve all of the unchecked power that it wants.
Don’t fall for the old divide-and-conquer trick.
Whatever you may think of Ron Paul, he has consistently championed
three core American for three decades. Paul has consistently argued for
the following three positions which Americans overwhelmingly favor:
- Stop the never-ending, open-ended, goalpost-moving wars
- Restore our liberties, and stop the march towards martial law, indefinite detention idiocy, and the crack down on the Internet
- Rein in or abolish the Federal Reserve
None of the other Republican (or Democratic) candidates support these positions, and the mainstream media has done everything it can to try to squelch debate on these issues.
HOW TO GUARANTEE A REAL DEBATE
Even if you intend to vote for Obama in 2012, you want him to have to
answer debate questions on these issues … and you want the mainstream
media to have to discuss them.
How can you do this?
Initially, Obama has the Democratic party nomination locked up. So Democratic primaries are not an issue.
So register as a Republican for one-year only to – as Huffington Post notes – ensure that Ron Paul gets the GOP nomination.
Even if you’ve never done so before and never will again (we all know
how bad the mainstream Republican party has been!), register one time
as a Republican to vote for Paul in the primaries.
Why?
If Paul gets the nomination, then he will debate President Obama in the election itself. Then
3 of the issues that are important to all of us – ending the stupid
wars, restoring freedom on the Internet and in the real world, and
reining in the out-of-control Fed – will finally be discussed.
Whether or not you want President Obama to be re-elected, we all
want him to be forced to answer tough questions about endless war, the
ongoing drift towards a police state, and the unaccountable Fed.
Helping Ron Paul get the GOP nomination is the way to do so.
Click here for state-by-state instructions.
Note: While many progressives and liberals
like Ron Paul, this essay does not focus on actually trying to elect
him, only to force a real debate of the issues so that President Obama
has to address them.
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lol...if Freud was worth half his salt he would have recognized his own addictions & circumstances were warping his judgement & conclusions.
I'm not given to take the counsel of someone who cannot step outside of self (to truly see himself) anymore than I would take it from a common crackhead...or you.
>We must put those who are under us as our slaves.
von Mises states in Human Action something to the effect that people who are treated like cattle will only render cattle-like performances. Market forces work against slavery - i.e. it tends to result in financial losses for those who employ it.
No argument on the premise. But in practice, not so sure. China is still hanging on. There is an equilibrium, but people can be pushed to be very "cattle-like", and the multiplier will still have a positive effect.
>You baulk at the basic notion that there are "laws of nature"?
There are laws of economics.
>That the survival of the fittest and the optimisation of the species should not be our goal?
Not according to the Ricardian Law of Comparative Advantage.
Not according to the subjective theory of value.
Read von Mises / Rothbard, educate yourself on economic science, and then maybe you can post something intelligent.
"laws of economics"? lol. Right. Weak ass at best. Your "laws of economics" demonstraste the flawed logic that got us into the mess we are in. And there is NO such thing as "economic science". No economist employs the scientific method around any of their pot head theories. Your Law of Comparitive Advantage works under a very tight set of boundary conditions, and then it fails miserably. Go study some real science and then get back to me.
>Your "laws of economics" demonstraste the flawed logic that got us into the mess we are in.
Again, your ignorance is showing. I'm talking about the Austrian School, not pseudoscience like Keynesianism.
>No economist employs the scientific method around any of their pot head theories.
They should not be using it. The "scientific method" is not warranted in all fields of knowledge. For example, mathematicians do not need a laboratory to establish that e^(ix)=cos x + i sin x, or pi = 3 + 1/(6+9/(6+25/(6+49/(6+.... In economics, in particular, there are no constants and no fixed relations. To use the methodology appropriate to one field of knowledge in other fields of knowledge where it is not appropriate is a terrible mistake.
Read this: http://mises.org/books/ultimate.pdf
>Your Law of Comparitive Advantage works under a very tight set of boundary conditions, and then it fails miserably.
Where does it fail? Show one failure.
BTW Comparitive Advantage is a well loved part of Keynsian economics.
I said it wasn't science and it is not. That's why the same methods don't apply.
An Comparative Advantage fails as soon as you exceed the boundary conditions. Don't be retarded. If you really studied this you would know. Take free trade for example. Why do we not have limitless free trade? If there were no boundary conditions then limitless free trade with every nation would be good policy. Arrgghhh!! I can't believe I am sinking to this level. But you really think that Comparative Advantage theory is boundless? Are you talking off the Wiki page? Because you really don't sound educated on this.
>I said it wasn't science and it is not.
Is math a science or not?
Would you say "1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + etc. = pi^2 / 6" is true? Is it scientific? Is it falsifiable? Is it knowledge?
>If there were no boundary conditions then limitless free trade with every nation would be good policy.
It would be good for two people who engage in a trade. Because each party to a trade ex ante prefers what he is getting over what he is giving up.
It would be bad, at least at first, for those supplying goods to a geographical area who can exploit increased prices because tarriffs or other artificial impediments hamper the market and prevent competition from foreign entrepeneurs.
It would be good for those who prefer life, prosperity, and peace over death, poverty, and warfare.
>But you really think that Comparative Advantage theory is boundless?
I'm not sure what you mean by "boundless". It is an apodictic theorem. It is true at all times and in all places where there are human beings.
Dr. Please respond. I would like to know your thoughts on this. When one side of the trade is annihilation what happens? According to what you told me this is an apodictic theorem. Is there a singularity, or does it become asymptotic at the point of "I will kill your ass if you don't do what I say"? I would like your scholarly opinion. Surely you can describe this mathematically Thanks ...
Logic sucks. I know. Garlic to every economist vampire ...
This is silly. Ok. Let's say that it is indeed a "law" like you say, like conservation of energy or special relativity. Then let's take the free trade example to the limit. "
"It would be good for two people who engage in a trade. Because each party to a trade ex ante prefers what he is getting over what he is giving up."
Being a more powerful nation the practice of Comparative Advantage (according to you) as an absolute boundless closed form theorem; would dictate that one party can deal life or death over the other in return for whatever they want. In other words - complete slavery and subjugation of the other party.
Ok. You convinced me. In the limit, Comparative Advantage theory is complete domination of the weak.
I would support that.
All of you idiots who voted for this corrupted illegal alien REFUSED to scope the plethora of valid information attesting to his ties with corruption, mostly within wall street. You got what your ignorance and HOPE-ium voted for. Iodits.
Now you want to DEBATE it?
TRY IMPEACHMENT.
obummer is a sleeper for the king of arabia, welcome to the colonial states of america.
http://covert.mypressonline.com
O'bum is CIA. He was raised CIA to be President. His parents and probably his grandparents were CIA. It was likely planned by the infamous Dulles brothers.
obummer and most of the democrats are obviously stooges for Israel. the muslim thing is a total red herring to dupe americans who are to blind to see who openly controls the U.S. government...
Guy's name John39 are total shills for Islamists who want to impose sharia law all over the world. <that was easy>
Sorry, didn't mean to leave out Republicans. They are even bigger Israel firsters than obummer and the Democrats. How profitable the myth of the chosen people has become.
Impeaching Obummer is fine with me. But who are people going to vote for next year?
Impeaching Barry is not the answer...then we have Biden.
Now, going after both for gross malfeasance in office, thats sumpin I can get behind ;-)
Sequential impeachments are not really out of the question. Or sequential tarring-and-feathering, if it comes to that. We can afford a few buckets from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and probably Tyson's will comp us the chicken feathers.
The Dems will just find another Muslim. Oh and before you junk me - name the Democrat version of Ron Paul.
The Dems actually had a good guy in GA named Larry McDonald. He was a Congressman when that f**king liar RINO Newt was in Congress. McDonald essentially said Newt was a douche.
Didn't he go down in that Korean Airlines jet attacked by the Soviets?
Thats right, they killed McDonald. There's no Ron Paul on the left because you can't reconcile liberalism with freedom, unless it's voluntary, which it never is. No one _wants_ to pay for fat-assed bureaucrats and lazy people to fuck off all day on their dime. The only alternative to Paul on the right are a bunch or war/fear mongers who hate muslims only slightly less than they hate idle weapons. The new litmus test on the 'right' is your willingness to attack Iran. If you're not willing, you're not a republican, according to almost everyone in the party except Paul. And the republicans are much more captive to establishment thinking (much more likely to buy 9.11 and everything that flowed from it). Freedom lovers have few friends in American politics.
Still believe that story?
I believe that the Soviets forced the plane to land in Sakhalin and then executed the surviving passengers. Wakkanai (northern Japan) radar tracked the big ol' 747 on its way down. It was going to slow to be free-falling.
In this far-out article, they talk about impeaching Obama, near the end of it. Warning, very interesting but somewhat fantastical and long.
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/12/confirmed-trillion-dollar-lawsuit-that.html
ha ha, I bet if you live in the US, that you still support the regime with your tax dollars.
Ha Ha--not quite. It's actually very easy to live in the U.S. without sending the federal govt any tax dollars. Almost half of all households in the U.S. manage to do it.
The rest could do it if they wanted to show a little gumption. But you know how lazy the rich are. Uncle Warren has been saying he needs to pay more taxes for years and years, but somehow he never gets around to writing that check.
Said Imminent Crucible:
This simply isn't true. You are referring to income tax, which is only one of the many ways that the federal government picks your pocket.
well, if you are a W2, they automatically deduct, I;m a 1040ES and stopped sending my money
Yeah, well, Obama is an asshole, obviously. Democrat voters aren't too bright. Actually, AMERICAN voters aren't too bright! We have one slim change for some reform with Ron Paul, let's not waste it.
Without doubt Ron Paul is the best of the bunch.
But, please note:
If we do elect Ron Paul, we will suffer and have big problems.
If we do NOT elect Ron Paul, we will SUFFER MORE and have BIGGER PROBLEMS.
We will suffer and have bigger problems REGARDLESS!
If it seems like the pols and bankers are going balls out, without care or concern for the future, maybe something is coming - aside form the obvious (war) - that will make everything suddenly irrelevant.
It turns out that there is one really good explanation for all of the carelessness, as well as the bunkers and deep underground military bases: a pole shift. There's evidence that it happens with some regularity, and some evidence that another one is on the way. Why bother to eliminated 90% of the population if the planet will do it for you? Just saying.
Orwell's books were predictions of where things were heading. The man was gifted. The bankers are now raping in plain view because they know what is planned. They know that the corrupted governments will not punish their masters. Soon they will try and strip what remains of your rights. This is not speculation, it is in the open now.
You mean it's not enough to hope for change for 4 more years?
No it isn't.The government has been overthrown.The super villains who run the US remain in the shadows.Debate is pointless, as is voting for Ron Paul.If, at any time he poses an actual threat to the shadow government they will destroy him.
As a reminder, the power can now detain you without trial forever.
No trial.
What needs to be done now is obvious:Everyone who voted for this bill needs to be impeached and tried by jury for treason.
That includes the puppet posing as the President.Until this is done getting upset about elections is for fools.
Those who warn about our descent into a police state are wrong...we have arrived at dictatorship.Don't put lipstick on the pig by voting...we need arrests of the actual criminals and emergency elections.
And the Republican party and Democratic party should be outlawed as criminal organizations and all assets seized.
Remember too that when they talk about detention, they don't mention how many could end up locked up or dissapeared.
It could mean millions of us.
Oh, and they can torture us too.
The evil,depraved and ultra-violent nightmare dystopia is right here, right now.
Has this one already been signed??
Yes.
The "obvious" will never happen either. Plan C anyone?