Egyptian Brutality Comes to America: Police Fire Rubber Bullets at Peaceful Protesters

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laosuwan's picture

I am looking at the guy in the photo, the guy with the giant ear ring, and wondering how can it be he cannot find work

 

Use of Weapons's picture

Update - both OAK mayor & police are backing away furiously...

 

Mayor just promised to find (ahem, scapegoat) the police officer, and stop all violence.

 

//winning

darkstar7646's picture

#1) The Oakland mayor looks to me to be an abject figurehead.

#2) There has been a serious step-up in evictions and arrests this week. SOMEONE is coordinating a national smash on Occupy -- and the General Strike is a response to it.

The real problem you might have to consider is whether something like the Homeland Security rumors is on the table right now.

From reading, it was apparently 4:30 AM yesterday before the proposed 500-officer raid on Occupy SF was called off.

I'd wager a fair part of the reason why is that there would've been a good chance that the entire governance of San Francisco, CA would've failed within 24 hours as the (acting) mayor and half the Board of Supervisors probably would've been locked up in that time frame.

The (acting) mayor and at least five of the Board members were apparently visitors during Wednesday night's tension. There is a President of the Board to replace the acting mayor if something happens, but...

Bastiat's picture

Excellent! 

There were 12 police agencies involved.  Who was controlling them all?  In a SF Chronicle article I posted earlier today the Oak cops said: we didn't have rubber bullets--we don't know what the other agencies had.  WTF?  You don't know?  Who was in charge? 

Today, in the Bay Area, I  saw a DHS SUV heading into a car wash with some brown crap on the roof, window, door.  Never seen a DHV vehicle before. 

Was this a DHS lead operation? Did DHS discharge any weapons of any kind?  Did any Fed?

darkstar7646's picture

That is where some of the rumors are coming in that Homeland Security wants an end to all the encampments -- NOW!

The situation in Oakland was declared a Tactical Alert Riot on Tuesday night. That basically activates the area-wide response, and is one step to activating far more serious measures, such as the National Guard or the proposed circuit-breakers for Martial Law.

Use of Weapons's picture

#1 Official line is that OAK police department looked "outside" of juridiction for numbers of police.

#2 I direct you to the investigation of the secret state by some people. Cryptome.org is a nice start, it is a real pity that memoryhole.org and so on got hacked.

 

See you in the dark net - things there are hot, heavy and slow (sadly).

topshelfstuff's picture

same Playbook used in the 60's through early 70's...how many know that Nixon extended the Vietnam War on the belief that it would help get him elected, no matter the added million lives lost, including thousands more of US Troops. A starting point should be 1963 because there are still people alive today who can, and some wish to, Testify. We can always go back to 1910-1913 later, even further back...this Must be done in order for The People to understand. I think most of us know that if People can be awakened, Educated, the mess America is in would automatically be corrected...so, I suggest bringing out 1963 and Forward

LBJ accused Nixon of treason

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3suucO6pOc

This was Before the election, LBJ couldn't bring this Public because of his knowledge re: JFK, 11/22/63....I believe The American People owe it to JFK to once and for all bring All the Facts out. We can't really Clean House w/o bringing certain things out, no matter how :delicate" they may seem. Yes, I am referring to some other men who went on to become President...who can't recall where they were when JFK was assassinated

and I'll leave just one short, 4:30 minute video of Agent Adams. There are others with 1-2 hours

Ex-FBI AGENT - OSWALD DID NOT KILL JFK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wktzy-8BV8


.....does not recall where he was when JFK was killed


 

 

 

haibop's picture

Unfortunately this happened in just such a bad time. Look at how it goes in so many places.

Bastiat's picture
John Avalos, center, a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors and a candidate for Mayor, sits in support of Occupy San Francisco with protesters in San Francisco, Wednesday, Oct. 26, 2011.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/27/BAS61LN3UP.DTL#ixzz1c0NLv9IB

 

This is kinda funny -- it's an mayoral election year in SF--the interim mayor, Ed Lee, was appointed when the incumbent got elected Lt. Governor.  He's running for the office. So his opponent sits down with the protestors -- after the Oakland PR disaster, will Lee risk the same in SF, while he's running for election and one of his opponents sits with the protestors?  Nope. Cops pulled back.  I wouldn't be surprised to see porto-potties installed next. 

darkstar7646's picture

The cops pulled back because there was a governance issue. If they went in, there could be a very good chance that the entire governance of San Francisco, CA could've gone up within a day or two.

Then what?

Bastiat's picture

 

"Tuesday's removal of the camp saw mass arrests but was largely peaceful. A downtown march later in the day, however, turned into a protracted street confrontation between protesters and police officers from more than a dozen agencies who set off tear gas and used shotguns to fire projectiles designed to inflict pain but not cause serious injury. "

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/26/BAE71LMH3C.DTL#ixzz1c0FDwKOB

On Wednesday, protesters displayed rubber bullets and beanbags they said were fired at them the night before. Jordan said his department used the beanbags but not rubber bullets, but that other agencies may have used the rubber bullets.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/26/BAE71LMH3C.DTL#ixzz1c0FNehVX

 

Bastiat's picture

"More than a dozen agencies . . . "   Would love to know what Federal agencies were there.  Provocateurs can work on both sides.  Scott Olsen may have been targetted.  That would explain the flashbang when people came to help.  Possibly it was as accidental as the Tillman death. 

There's nothing accidental about firing a gas cannister into someone's forehead from a distance of 20 feet.  See the video and see where Olsen is lying in the street and how far that is from barricade and cops.  As someone pointed out above, israili army has killed people doing this.  There was another protestor with a nearly identical wound -- except his was a bit of a 3 corner tear indicating a glancing impact and likely explaining why he was on his feet.

Olsen came over from the Occupy SF movement. If he was carrying a cellphone, and being watched by the Feds with DHS/NSA help, they knew where exactly where he was.  Maybe, maybe not.  A random assault or an assassination attempt (so far).

haibop's picture

it will be nice to know what will happen next... frameless shower doors

kensuneit's picture

Welcome to the new world order.

Not a lot of things scare me too much, but this does; its real people on American soil making a stand for themselves.

I fear, however, that it is the beginning of more intense fighting, coming to a city near you sooner than you think.

Check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqnMrynpq9U

jowenchrist's picture

There has never been change without violence. It's time.

darkstar7646's picture

That's one of the main reasons I can't take part at this time.

I do not believe in non-violent protest, as it leaves you effectively sitting ducks for whenever the piggie-D decides to put an end to it or gets orders from above (whereever "above" is) to do so.

I do not believe this is individual police departments/cities. I do believe the DHS rumor has merit, and that's why I mentioned it (to some protest) on several of the Livestream Occupy chats during Wednesday night's San Francisco tension.

NotApplicable's picture

Always remember; our anger empowers the elite, as it is the fuel for their divide and conquer schemes.

Use of Weapons's picture

And love dissolves it. Sounds wet, but it is true.

 

"The fish can sing".

topshelfstuff's picture

Peaceful Demonstrations are not possible when Agent/S are sent in. There are now Facts available about the 60's-70's, the Vietnam Era, Nixon and his Admin, LBJ labeled as Treason, yet not mentioned in the MSM. A google of [ LBJ Phone Nixon Treason ] will take you to a choice of links. This is only 40 minutes
Dirty Wars (Full Length)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBle1I0gdao&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL55A1AC9FAAC97ACF

MobBarley's picture

What's my reaction supposed to be. Wait, let me check my MK Ultra predictive programming

stimulus-response chart.

 

 

NotApplicable's picture

You are supposed to either be outraged at the police, or the protesters, or ambivalent about the whole thing, because you're too busy being mad at the judges on DWTS.

Judge's picture

OWS is nothing but bad propaganda, poor videos and take from the productive, give to the lazy socialism.  Here's a chart that sums up the reality pretty clearly:

<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310900_101503323712...">

Use of Weapons's picture

Koch brothers spent $50,000,000 on the Tea party.

 

Are you with KPMG?

LivermoreJim's picture

These communist and nazi supported 'peacefull' protesters were throwing bottles, blocking access to small business and refusing legal orders to disperse.  They are becoming the brownshirts of America.  They were lucky the police only used rubber bullets.

silverserfer's picture

Whats that your saying I cant understand you with that huge elete master's cock in your mouth. Fucking shitbrain.

IAmNotMark's picture

That's right!  Those worthless scumbags should have been shot with real bullets! Kill those worthless bastards.  That's what true Americans believe!  Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  Sit down, shut up, and let the rulers continue to rule.

/sarc

darkstar7646's picture

Don't be too sarcastic. That's where I believe this eventually heads -- spring/summer of 2012, with the troops home from Iraq basically unemployable?

The guns will be turned inward.

Chump's picture

That statement is so filled with irony I'm surprised your head didn't explode.

It shouldn't be hard for you to document your claims, so get to it*.

*If you think only Nazis and Communists support this movement you are completely mistaken.  I make Reagan look like a hippy and I support OWS.  If you abandon this movement to the Communists then guess what...it becomes Communist.  Try fighting for something once in your sorry life.

Gringo Viejo's picture

I cosign Chump's message. I'm to the right of Barry Goldwater and I support what they're trying to accomplish. Further, be aware that the msm, both right and left, are doing all they can to portray this movement in a bad light for the benefit of their corporate masters. I believe in freemarket capitalism not rigged market cronyism.

Cman5000's picture

Most of the mayors ordering crack downs are Democrats... Hmmm Don't get me wrong i dislike both parties

PaperBear's picture

non-Federal non-Reserve Bankers Want 'Bloody Rebellion'; Hiring CIA Mercenaries To Kill NYPD

click http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1682065/pg1

MobBarley's picture

That site is run by the air force, military psy ops site, spyware galore.

 

xavi1951's picture

I have seen rubber bullets used and they do NOT do that kind of damage.  Those people were hit with rocks that their friends were throwing.

silverserfer's picture

Go deposit your paycheck at B of A bitch and get back to masturbating to your Bill O'rilley poster 

Chump's picture

Hmmmm...what a dilemma.  Do I believe some random dickhole on the internet or my own lying eyes, watching numerous videos from many angles, and seeing picture after picture documenting the aftermath?

Hmmmm...random internet expert or video and photographic evidence?  Hmmmm...

IAmNotMark's picture

Thank you for your analysis officer.

You must be right, a hand-thrown rock does more damage than a 12-gauge launched projectile.  Oh...wait...

Toolshed's picture

You obviously do not know what you are talking about.

Quinvarius's picture

I can tell from looking at that footage, those police there are not trained for dealing with crowd control or protestors.  You never put the guy with the loaded weapon in the front row.  And you don't throw flashbangs at wounded people.  Also, that midget girl should not have been in front because she was the weak point.

Some day, a group of protestors is going to show up with a bunch of wooden shields and long poles.  They are going to make a phalanx and bust through the police like the Spartans at the battle of Platea.

Stud Duck's picture

Its is going to be a long spring in 2012! The OWSers will have the winter to organize, plan,  and the other side, Banksters, will be thinking that when the winter comes, they will disperse head to shelter, just like the Taliban.

With all the haters out their, it should get really nasty next sping into the convention season.  Saving up resources (ammo) will only make the battle much worse.

A Shephard is needed soon to take care of the sheep!

darkstar7646's picture

Your schedule is one of the reasons I believe we will elect some degree of a totalitarian if we get to the 2012 elections at all.

IAmNotMark's picture

"And you don't throw flashbangs at wounded people."

You do if you want to hurt them.

Quinvarius's picture

Which leads me to another observation about their obvious non-training.  There are supposed to be teams of people behind the front line of police that run out and snatch ring leaders or wounded and then drag them back behind the front line.

The best I can say about that police operation is the guys on the front did not have sidearms that I could see.

Bastiat's picture

I read an article recently about street gangs in the military--some gangs "send" members for training.  Cops won't have such an easy time with trained and armed sociopaths on the other side.  BTW I don't think this is good news.  Who do you think takes over when chaos breaks out?  If MS13 rules the streets we'll look back at the banksters regime as the good ole days. Just looking ahead a bit.  The time after the French Revolution was not the golden age either--there are so many ways for all this to go the wrong way as it escalates.