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"The Global Plutocracy Is Terrified of Dissent"

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#000099;">The Most Liberal Part of the Country Takes a Page from Dictator's Playbook

The most liberal part of the country - the San Francisco Bay Area - is taking a page from Egyptian dictator Mubarak's playbook.

As leading free speech organization Electronic Frontier Foundation reports:

This week, EFF has seen censorship stories move closer and closer to home — first Iran, then the UK, and now San Francisco, an early locus of the modern free speech movement. Operators of the Bay Area Rapid Transit system (BART) shut down cell phone service to four stations in downtown San Francisco yesterday in response to a planned protest.

 

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BART said today that it had instituted the following rules, including:

No person shall conduct or participate in assemblies or demonstrations or engage in other expressive activities in the paid areas of BART stations, including BART cars and trains and BART station platforms.

What does that mean? We can't talk?

One thing is clear, whether it’s BART or the cell phone carriers that were responsible for the shut-off, cutting off cell phone service in response to a planned protest is a shameful attack on free speech. BART officials are showing themselves to be of a mind with the former president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak, who ordered the shutdown of cell phone service in Tahrir Square in response to peaceful, democratic protests earlier this year.

#000099;">U.S. and Britain Attack Social Media

It's not just cell phones.

For example, the Pentagon is trying to manipulate social media for propaganda purposes. And the government is trying to censor any suggestions on the web and other media that powerful people might actually be acting in their own interests (and not necessarily in the interests of the little guy). 

And in Britain, the government is blaming the protests in that country on social media (here are the two real causes).

But as professor of media psychology Ann Rutletdge writes in a post entitled, "Social Media Did Not Cause the London Riots":

After four days of looting and rioting across the UK, people are looking for answers. The violence that started in London, spread rapidly across not only Greater London, but most of the country, not as single oozing mass, but more like an outbreak of the measles. Its speed and range is attributed to the rioters’ use of social media, such as Facebook, Twitter, and Blackberry Messenger. Information and disinformation alike travel fast in social networks. As people try to make sense in the aftermath, an emerging theme is the culpability of social media. Focusing blame on social media is akin to killing the messenger and is both naïve and dangerous.

 

Social media is just a tool. It’s a powerful one, but a tool nonetheless. It can be used in good ways and bad ways, just like a hammer or a baseball bat.

 

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Social media is an easy target. When you’re a politician, it’s great to have something to blame that can’t vote. Prime Minister Cameron almost immediately offloaded the blame onto social networking sites for fueling the riots and hinted at intervention. “When people are using social media for violence, we need to stop them.”

 

UK Home Secretary, Theresa May, is scheduling meetings with Facebook, Twitter and Research In Motion (RIM) to “discuss their responsibilities in this area.” Suggestions have ranged from banning suspected rioters from social media networks to the wholesale shutdown of social media in times of unrest without regard to individual freedoms in order to “catch the bad guys.” The key unanswered question is who gets to decide who’s a ‘troublemaker’ or what’s ‘unrest.’

 

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We should learn from history, as well as from current societies that we do not want to emulate. Can anyone say “China” or “McCarthyism”?

 

Beyond rights violations, any government that thinks they can totally suppress information flows is kidding themselves. Even if it were possible, shutting down social media will not stop anything. In countries where people do not have easy Internet access or rights like freedom of speech, resourceful, persistent, and effective citizens continue to find ways around Great Fire Walls and information blackouts. Suppressing information these days is like holding a balloon under water. It will absolutely pop up somewhere else.

 

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Social media may have accelerated the pace of information travel, bringing groups together faster, but it did not put bricks and fire bombs into the hands of the looters. Social media did not create the anger or sense of powerlessness against authorities. It did not create the heightened emotions of the group, crowd leaders, the adrenalin that comes from a sense of danger and risk, the lack of empathy for others, or the sense of no consequences. Emotion may be contagious, but social media is not.

 

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The real danger from these events is ... the wholesale liquidation of personal freedoms as a solution to deal with fear. When people are scared, they are willing to surrender individual rights to whomever tells them they can “fix” the problem. Whenever we give away our power so that we no longer have access or due process, we are on a slippery slope indeed.

#000099;">The Use of Heavy-Handed Tactics Is Actually a Sign That We're Winning

But the use by government's worldwide of the iron fist of repression is actually a sign that we are winning.

As Truthout's Matt Renner writes today:

Recently I sat down with two of the young adults who organized and led the Egyptian resistance movement that overthrew Hosni Mubarak. The media narrative said it took 18 days, when in fact, they had been organizing for over five years.

 

According to these young men, the moment they knew they had won was the day Mubarak’s government shut off the Internet and blocked cellphone communications. When people could no longer get updates about what was happening in Tahrir Square, they had to come out of their homes and see for themselves, tripling the size of the protests in one fell swoop.

 

The global plutocracy is terrified of dissent. In some places, the war on dissent is being fought with bullets. In others, the war on dissent targets social media and mobile communications, while repressing and deceiving communities of struggle. It’s already happening.

#000099;">Our Voices Are More Important Than We've Realized

Renner is right: the plutocracy is terrified of dissent.

Indeed, the Asch Conformity Experiment showed that even one dissenting voice can give people permission to think for themselves.

And a new study shows that when only 10% of a population have strongly-held beliefs, their belief will be adopted by the majority of the society.

 

 


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Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:38 | Link to Comment Rick64
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George Washington,

 Please do a story about Dr. Burzynski. Really good example of how government, corporations, and associations work against people that pose a threat to the status quo.

 Documentary link        https://www.burzynskimovie.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:02 | Link to Comment granolageek
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Don't worry. No peak oil, no global warming.

 

No 4 buck gas, no 2010 is hottest year on record.

 

Henry Hudson, Northwest passage. Open for which four years since 1500? Is there a drought in Texas? Eh Rush?

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 21:08 | Link to Comment stiler
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plutocracy  + oligarchy = plutarchy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy

 

and as long as we're waxing eloquent:

 

I. Times of the Gentiles

destruction of Jerusalem and the Solomonic Temple 586 BC

Israel taken captive to Babylon

1. Babylonian empire (Daniel writing from here)

2. Medo-Persian

3. Helenistic

Ptolemy, Seleucus, Cassander, Lysimachus

Developmental Prelude to 4th gentile empire (previous forms of Roman gov't)

1. the first head-- the Tarquin Kings 753-510 BC

2. the second head-- the Counselors 510-494

3. the third head-- the Plebians or Dictators 494-390

4. the fourth head-- the Republicans or Decimvers 390-59

5. the fifth head-- the Triumverate 59-27

6. the sixth head-- Imperialism

a. United stage: Roman Empire 63-285 BC

b. two-division stage: east-west balance of power 364-present

c. one world gov't stage: toes of iron and miry clay

d. the ten kingdom stage: ten horns (kings) 3 uprooted (at time of the Apocalypse) leaving seven who will submit to the eighth horn

7.e. the seventh head-- Antichrist Stage: Absolute Imperialism

 

The little horn is the eleventh horn (in relation to the ten) and becomes the eighth horn to be destroyed by God ending gentile domination of Israel.

II. Messianic Kingdom: The Kingdom of the Stone-- absolute monarchy

 

A.G. Fruchtenbaum, Times of the Gentiles from Footsteps of the Messiah

Its all been revealed through OT prophets, For this see Revelation 13:1-10, Rev 17:7-14, Daniel chaps 2 &7.

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Flammonde
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San Francisco, where I have lived for 24 years, is "progressive" but in a most regressive fashion based on feelings.  Thinking is not welcomed in protest circles because to engage in a discussion of the relevance of any given protest may thwart the protest.  Protesting is a habit, and hard to break.  On the other hand, the protests fatten the coffers of the police who are paid overtime and now and then trash parts of town having nothing to do with the purport of the protest.  My view is that for 40 years of perpetual protest we have become a nation Nixon would feel at home in.  Come to think of it, he probably was our last "progressive" what with passing all those environmental laws and taking us off gold.  Methinks we doth protest too much, and accomplish far too little.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:18 | Link to Comment jmc8888
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Seriously, how far do you think they'll go if they'll disengage your cell phone service because of fears for a little transit protest.  Wasn't it about raised fees?

That fascist assholes responsible should be fired.

 

What do you think they'll do once the real games get going....if we let them.

 

Glass-Steagall

American Credit System

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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"the only thing worth globalizing is dissent"

 

Arundhati Roy

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:52 | Link to Comment gwar5
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What did you really expect from Pelosi's district?

"Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning," was a bestselling book on the origins and nature of fascist movement  by Jonah Goldberg, 2008.

In the book, Goldberg points out that fascist movements were and are left wing. He states that both modern liberalism and fascism descended from progressivism and that prior to WWII, "fascism was widely viewed as a progressive social movement with many liberal and left-wing adherents in Europe and the United States".  

"Liberal" today, in our Orwellian 'newspeak' world, actually means authoritarianism with central socialist control.  Anything that criticizes central planning must be censored and disappeared, like the BART blackout. This is not a shock. This is not a surprise. This is not new. This is what "liberals" do first, and do best.  And I'm not picking on SF, I lived there 4 years going to school when Feinstein was mayor. 

 

This is Pelosi's district were talking about --- and she not only approved of the US waterboarding of muslim terrorists, she asked if we could do more. Pelosi also favors those TSA pat downs of children and little old ladies. It is distinctly the conservative areas like Texas that oppose invasions of privacy and want to protect individual rights and freedoms of speech. It is Obama that is censoring and getting journalists fired for criticizing him.

Locally, SF has also made circumcision of males illegal, along with pet stores selling puppies and goldfish.  SF has also banned happy meals from MacDonalds and ROTC programs from schools.  And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

So where's the Freedom in the SF Liberal Utopia?

Well, here's one: Pelosi and SF glorify pedophiles like NAMBLA founder Harry Hay who seek to abolish age of consent laws so pedophiles can be free to have sex with minors legally with no age limits. Only problem is, there's no concern for the freedom of parents and children to live without fear of sexual predators. 

Yes, SF was wrong to shut down electronic devices on BART, but what did you expect??  That's what they do!  

 

 

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Hamsterfist
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I can't believe I am taking the time to debunk someone who used Jonah Goldberg as a reference, but here we go.  (Next time tell us what good little Glennie Beck told you too.)

Corporate America was in high support of Mussolini style fascism and there are NUMEROUS PUBLIC quotes of corporate and government leaders, at the time, supporting Mussolini (and Hitler) all throughout the war.  Thomas W Lamont of JP Morgan was a notorious fascist supporter, William Randolph Hearst Newspaper publisher, John D Rockefeller Standard Oil Founder, Andrew Mellon Head of Alcoa (who coincidentally sold Aluminumn to American enemies until WWII's end).  This list could also include the companies Du Pont, General Motors, Standard Oil, Ford, General Electric.  Basically the list could be as long as you want, and NO I do not believe this would prove to be a den of communists in the making.  These people and institutions are probably as pro 'right wing' as you could want.

Secondly, for you to DARE compare modern Democrats to anything resembling a Liberal is slander to the good word.  Both parties are just ONE.  Stop playing your retarded games and open your fucking eyes dipshit.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:01 | Link to Comment Hamsterfist
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I should also mention to read a real book, hell, even do a smidget of internet research yourself to prove my point.  I could sit here for hours placing quotes, and links.  I fear it would do no good as your head is so far lodged up your masters ass, it would do no good.  Please sit back, relax and enjoy the fact that the American right (not Libertarians, Teapublicans) are nothing but modern day fascists, with the Democratic party offering the exact same.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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George, BART police shoot unarmed and unresisting riders on train platforms. OF COURSE BART will take whatever action they feel is warranted the Constitution. And Bill of Rights be dammed. Why are you so shocked or surprised? We off South Main Street have known this for generations. About time this tide of knowledge made it to other areas of society.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 16:27 | Link to Comment eurusdog
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Constitution. And Bill of Rights be dammed...?

Please tell me which article and where in the Constitution we are guarenteed the right to 24/7 cell/internet/texting/facebooking/twittering all provided by the governement?

If you want to see some real protesters, se this - and before you go off about how they all have cell phones and internet, see their internet and cell usage stats, as well as their per capita GNI. Americans who wish to complain are lazy!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:58 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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good to see you Miles

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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U2 Davey. I know you appreciate my not so snarky snark. Fact remains that we both have come to appreciate how far things have progressed from the days of an appropriately applied use of force model whose purpose was deescalation rather than rampant esclation. As noted by the other respondant, esclation that seemingly goes hand n hand with that "third rate" kind of law enforcement that holds itself at war with the society it supposedly serves and protects. In this one need not look far to find daily or weekly examples of this process in rampant action in our society. A rampant action that all to often leads to kids being tazered at school or others being killed or permanently disabled without proper recourse before a bar of justice as hopelessly corrupted as the political process that brings Bastait to life. BTW, my apologies for my response. Traveling and using my phone...... Cheers

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 16:32 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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cell phone eloquent as always

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:50 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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George, BART police shoot unarmed and unresisting riders on train platforms.

Oh yeah, on a weekly basis, randomly selected passengers, and as a matter of policy, right? 

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:01 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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The issues get sticky. This time they withheld video and other evidence and what a coincidence, in the past, that evidence didn't help their side of the story. Funny how the killing of innocents and their cover up seem to spark these incoveniences. 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Don't get me wrong: i believe BART has a problem with their police "culture."  Often these are 3rd string cop wannabes.  There's also a militarization of local police forces that has been under way for 20 years, accelearted after 9-11.   They elected board members need to be held accountable. I don't believe disrupting service or hacking the records of passengers is right response.

Any video will be available to the coursts under subpeona, either criminal or civil. 

Personal opinion, on the face of it? If you are healthy, you should be able to handle a drunk with a knife  with a baton, without help.  For 2 cops? You've got to be kidding me?   But I wasn't there and haven't followed it.  If the guy had a knife and was swinging it around other people . .. if the guy had a knife and was threatening anyone, including another cop, who seemed unable to flee or defend . . . maybe another matter.  

People need to be safe from being assaulted on public transit.  That means cops. Cops mean force, even deadly force. There are accidents and there are errors;  and there can be things in a cop culture and organization that contribute to accidents and errors.  You really care and want things fixed you look there.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Hamsterfist
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The American government has always acted brutally towards those it perceives as dissenting from the system.  This violence down the chain even extends to rent a cops, with a desire to protect those in power.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:03 | Link to Comment robobbob
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so for the sake of accidents and errors, you're giving them a pass on accountability and approval to surpress individual freedom?

and how many accidents and errors have to occur before you consider it systemic failure and demand that the system be torn down and replaced?

and if it is illegal to demonstrate those demands, then what? by condoning or excusing their actions, you are handing them the chains that they mean to silence you with. and once given, you will not get them back. at least not without heavy cost. 

cliche: those that would sacrifice essential liberty for the comfort of promised security deserve........

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:01 | Link to Comment Fiat Money
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Terrific commentary, GW. 

 I  HOPE you are right (as in "correct") about "even one dissenting voice can give people permission to think for themselves"

  because the  very simple "big picture" score is:

#1. the vast majority - 90% (?) - of the American people have seen a net LOSS of  some TWENTY TRILLION dollars over the past decade, especially the past few years....  "Americans See 18% of Wealth VANISH" - $11 trillion in 2009 alone! - by uber "free market capitalism" cheerleaders WSJ... citing FED numbers! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123687371369308675.html

#2.  Wouldn't ya know it - the WEALTHY have seen an INCREASE in wealth, of almost exactly the $20+/- TRILLION that the  MAJORITY of Americans have LOST over the past decade.. "Top 1% INCREASED THEIR Share of WEALTH DURING Financial Crisis"...  WSJ! http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/04/30/top-1-increased-their-share-of-wealth-in-financial-crisis/

#3.  The above figures/amounts are captured beautifully in a single number and financial article,  Bloomberg's Jan. 2009 article about TARP inspector General Neil Barofsky's snap-shot estimate of the TOTAL COST of "BAILOUTS"  TO  TAXPAYERS = $23 TRILLION  (probably far higher today, given Bernanke's unfettered "confetti" money printing of past 2 years).    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aY0tX8UysIaM  

   In their guts, Americans KNOW  that the "BAILOUTS" have been pure, DIRECT  EXTORTION of working stiff taxpayers  by government - by the Con-gress,  IRS & other govt.  bureaucracy agencies,  all with the blessings of the bought-&-owned press/media and college/university academia...  

  ....but with the media slavishly pretending that the "Democrats" are "liberal", and that Republicans are about "SMALLER" government (NOT!)     Americans just have not yet come to the full realization that  the late "Democratic" Party has seen a HOSTILE, LBO  TAKEOVER by the GS, jpm (= Fed) banksters, who, by BRIBING  the Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, Biden, Obama (et al) "Democrats" - they have received the above $20+ TRILLION in "bailouts" in exchange for a billion in legal "campaign donation" BRIBES. 

(and of course the Rethuglicans are just as much in the pocket of the GS, JPM, Fed "free-money-by-trillions-for-us, SLASHED jobs, benefits, health-care, & social safety-net for you peons"  banksters,  they are ALL ABOUT  using "BIG GOVERNMENT" to EXTORT  $20+ TRILLOIN _from_ Americans, handed over to the hyper-wealthy (top 10% who own stocks & bonds)  BEHIND the TBTF  big banksters..... 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:50 | Link to Comment f16hoser
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Privatised Profits and Socialised Losses is getting old. I didn't buy any Derivatives. Why should I pay for it??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:16 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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the problem is that the majority is stupid and would rather feel good than know the truth.

thusly, thats the ball game!

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Vic Vinegar
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It's nice to see you comment more and spam less.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 14:08 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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just becuase I share not in Heavy Rotation Cable News / Facts that YOU! dont like does Not! make what I share spam.

one line of drivel without standing for anything is SPAM!

so you can fuck off lady!

and feel free to tell the other Repugnant Plants that they can FUCK OFF TOO!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:48 | Link to Comment aerial view
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Does anyone really believe protests will change corrupt people working for a corrupt system?! We are trusting not only our future but that of our children to people who could care less if you live or die. The time has come for voting by referendum-everyone's vote should count equally; thus, removing power from our crooked representatives. All politicians should sign an affadavit that they will follow the will of the majority vote or be expelled without benefits. If we can operate a car and a cell phone, then we can make the decisions necessary to run the country. Stand up or be crushed by the Demon ocracy!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:42 | Link to Comment daxtonbrown
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We are already in a civil war against debt bondage (modern slavery) which is needed to prop up the welfare state. Keynesian monetary policy guarantees an eventual revolt as the Euro and Dollar are debased. It is a civil war, but it won't look like W I because a new territory to lock down will be cyberspace and social networks. The people rioting are actually the proxy army for the progressives. http://www.futurnamics.com/civilwar.php

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:39 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Yes, after only 2 riots over BART cops behavior, they're moving in on freedom of assembly.

Of course, one can ask if freedom of assembly implies the freedom to riot, then one could ask if BART didn't bring this on themselves, and then one could ask if the little wannabe thuglets didn't also bring their treatment upon themselves.

The fact is these protests are messing with a public transportation system that is used by millions of riders and while the protesters may have perfectly valid points to make, they should find a less disruptive manner in which to do it or accept the consequences for their actions.

 

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:56 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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You can only take your argument so far. It all depends on where you think we are at in this story. Will you use this logic when we end up like the Egyptians? Of course it depends on what is being protested and the history of the authority's legitimate response to the number of growing and serious issues.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:34 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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No one's still standing on the moral high ground in this BART debacle.

Not the protesters who chose to vent their outrage by hammering on ticket machines. Not the group of hackers who leaked private information in the name of free speech. And not the transit agency that took draconian steps to stifle a piddling protest.

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Even the means here contradicted the cause. On Sunday, Anonymous cracked into myBART.org, a service that provides discounts and general information to riders, and leaked the names of 2,001 BART riders. As part of the retaliatory gesture, the group also released addresses, passwords and phone numbers, invading the privacy of these individuals.

Was this all an ironic point about the importance of civil liberties? No, it was simply the damage Anonymous felt it could inflict.

Anonymous members confused the urge to feel powerful by causing chaos with making a proud stand for freedom. In the end, their methods undermine their cause just as much as BART's actions did.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/16/BU5H1KO22Q.DTL#ixzz1VITES3sP Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/16/BU5H1KO22Q.DTL#ixzz1VISzuKWl

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:12 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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perhaps one day "Anonymous" will realize that only with responsibility comes true freedom.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:15 | Link to Comment IQ 145
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It's "good" to have a cell phone # and the address that goes with it if you a somewhat organized burglery ring. Call and make sure the folks are out; and the house is yours; "locks" are a joke in the modern world.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:38 | Link to Comment Mercury
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Please bear in mind that yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre (when there is no fire) has never been protected free speech under the First Amendment.

Maybe BART is being too harsh here and maybe they aren't - personally I would prefer that no protests take place while I'm trying to commute home on the train - but it is also likely that this kind of thing is the predictable outcome of law enforcement falling down on the job in other areas....and this is the ham-fisted solution to try and have it both ways.

One of the consequences of always giving criminal behavior (and criminals) the benefit of the doubt, as they have famously done in Britain, is that law enforcement is paralyzed when there is a real crisis of public disorder.  So instead of finally getting tough with the punks who are breaking windows.....the government just shuts everyone's cel phones down.  See how that works?

They think: why risk having 100 cel phone videos of alleged police brutality, episdoes of "disrespect" and scenes of general chaos when you can simply inconvenience everybody with the push of a button?  This kind of shit happens because of uber-liberalism, not in spite of it.

 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:09 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Another funny and unsurprisingly cheap propaganda production. What else in this US driven world?

So, here it is:

dont give criminal behaviour (and criminals) the benefit of doubt.

Okay.

Few lines down (yeah, what is good with US propaganda, it is cheap, you know it and you got the proof of it fast),

alledged police brutality... Which is, wait for it, wait for it, giving criminal behaviour (and criminals)  the benefit of doubt.

Wonderful.

Another clear evidence of the real root of the issue: US citizenism. US citizenism has spread everywhere and nothing comes out of it but more US citizenism.

US world order.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Mercury
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I'm sure you have a point worth debating in here somewhere but for the life of me I can't figure out what the hell you're talking about. Really.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 02:24 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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There's no point to debate.

Statement of facts are not to be debated.

US citizens start with a general rule (here: no benefit of doubt for criminal behaviour) just to make to make an exemption of themselves just after (alledged police brutality)

It is quite natural for US citizens to be blind to this kind of behaviour because it is part of their eternal US citizen nature. It is like personal smell. People usually do not perceive their own natural smell.

Other people see though that in such framework, there is no alledged police brutality, only police brutality, a criminal behaviour that should not be given the benefit of doubt.

But nothing to worry about, it is quite normal US citizens cant perceive their own nature because they can not self govern.

The US citizen nature is eternal.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:43 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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The key word in his post is "citizenism".  If you understand that you will understand  AnAnonymous.  However, he seems to apply its origins strictly to the Big Bad United States and throws a blind eye to it as a world wide movement.

A little light reading:

http://www.notbored.org/citizenism.html

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 02:31 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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What a poor propaganda.

It is always US citizenism. US. Not simply citizenism.

US citizenism covers the same as Americanism but it is more accurate because as usual, in their quest for dilution of responsibility, have hijacked two continents while the said behaviour is stricly linked to US citizens.

Americans live in North America, Central America and South America. US citizens are from the United States of America.

US citizenism is a better word than americanism, because it pinpoints the real origin of the prevailing mindset that has led to the US world order.

Guatemaleans have very little to do with the US world order. US citizens much, much more.

Poor sidetracking. It shows there is no discontinuity between US citizens elite and their base. Both use the same tricks, but in different magnitude order.

No surprising though, because all are driven by US citizenism.

Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:42 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Those who complain incessantly about everything being propaganda were raised on nothing but propaganda.

It's really sad to see such blind ignorance and hate.  I was really hoping that your propaganda was from your own actual book learning.  But again, it is simply how you were programmed to think.

If I may suggest you take the time to break your programming and read the link I posted.  I can also suggest several other articles from that site which may expand your closed mind and outlook.  If you are up to it read Ted Kaczynski's manifesto.

Maybe then, someday, we can have an actual debate.

But really, we both know that is not what you want.  You just want to sit in the dark and stab at passer byers and inflict wounds which will not heal!

P.S. You have a tell:

I know when I am getting under your skin because your written English suffers.  You take less time to proof read responses because you become desperate to get a response back out.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:19 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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come now......

what would you's all do without big brother looking after you.???

Silly Rabbits.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:11 | Link to Comment hettygreen
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Social unrest leading to political change, organized revolution or just plain old anarchy existed long before the internet, cell phones, tv, radio and mass produced newspapers. One can argue this 'attack' by BART on free speech is perfectly legal while at the same time denouncing it as morally reprehensible but it all really boils down to pissing in the wind. Unless I'm mistaken and the majority really do have a deep seated psychological need to behave like subservient drones, unquestioningly being told what to do, history will not be denied its inevitable course.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:09 | Link to Comment tony bonn
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yes, mr washington, we live in a psychological gulag....we are in desperate need of regime change.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:09 | Link to Comment Paul Bogdanich
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Personally I do not think protestors of the ilk they have in San Francisco (they protest for equitable treatment for animals, people on death row, equality for transgender citizens and other similarly important issues) or the ones from the Westborough Baptist Church should be allowed to stop the trains carrying people to and from work in the city from running.  If it were at all a serious or otherwise well attanded protest I might disagree but please notice that none of the people screaming about this mention what the protest was about.  I bet it's something only the good people of San Francisco could get 1,000 people to turn out for.     

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Hamsterfist
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Why are you here, on Zerohedge I mean?  Really?  The only real social changes will happen through revolutions.  How do you think revolutions are portrayed by those in power?  As criminal acts.  You are just another enabler of the system, like most of the other posers posting on this story.  Go back to CNBC.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:41 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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It was for a potential illegal killing by BART Police and the subsequent withholding of video and other evidence. Should "liberal" folks care about that? How about "conservatives?" See Nmewn's comment above for guidance

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 15:18 | Link to Comment granolageek
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Tain't there. He must have made a mistake and said what he actually thinks instead of what the Sons of the Confederacy pay him to say.

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:05 | Link to Comment EcoJoker
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If you are really pissed, stop freaking posting on this site and GET OUT IN THE STREETS!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 16:16 | Link to Comment eurusdog
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They can't, they are affraid their texting and internet will get cut off and then they won't know what to do!

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:14 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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no.. talking and painting posters has not worked in 40 fucking years you stoner.. peace will not bring about change, talking will not bring about change and every knows that so every stays sitting on their fat asses.. but there will come a point when enough people are pissed that action is taken.

 

America is and has been parceled off to the World to improve the Worlds Quality of Life.

Europe is making the jump into one Nation.

Obama while President sits at the head of the table at the U.N.!

and Alex Jones keeps talking about space ships and Ron Paul keeps talking about going back to horse and buggy times.. and ALL that so the People will go along with moving forward, progress! Women have been programed for forward progress.. and men are stuck with forward progress if they want pussy.. thusly this fight was over before it started.

"We the People" dont want the truth! they want to be happy, feel good and be filled with hope of a better day! the truth does not matter! how they feel matters.

We are ALL fucking doomed! Stupid will wash over the World and give the powers that be what EVER they want with a smile! the Majority wins! 

Wed, 08/17/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment reader2010
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The Amerikkans still can't figure out what the happiness is all about. Instead, they turn to brainwashing lies of advertising imagery, and heavy lifting "Like" button on Facebook everyday. 

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