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I go to Zuccotti Park
Sunday was beautiful in NYC. Indian summer. I went to the OWS protest. Some observations and some pictures.
Zuccotti park is where the action is contained. This is a miserable excuse for a park. It’s about the size of a football field. Not a blade of grass to be found. As you will see from the pics, this place is already jammed. The limited space may prove to be an issue for this demonstration. You can’t get more than a few thousand in this cramped area.
The park is sandwiched between Broadway and Church. It’s bounded by Liberty St (and some other street I forgot the name of). On one side is the Brown Brothers Harriman Building (talk about white spats).
On the other is the rapidly rising world trade building.
The cops have the place surrounded. But it was very clear that these policemen were not looking for trouble. Two blocks away, I found where the police had set up a command post. I suspect the guys with the helmets were resting over there.
Congressman Eric Cantor made a foolish remark over the weekend. He referred to the happenings in lower Manhattan as a “Mob Scene”. Cantor’s an ass. He has no clue what is going on. This was just a dumb sound bite. He will regret it.
There was no mob. There were no professional provocateurs. There was festive attitude. There was no anarchy.
The following pictures are the scenes that I saw. Look at the people in the background; you will not see anything threatening at all.
There was some attempt to bring order. A library, medical area, kitchen, a media center, legal aid and even a store for “essentials”:
Some people were painting signs:
Others were just painting people:
Wherever you looked there were signs. Just a few of the many:
There was one sign that caught my eye. I’m willing to bet it has also caught the eye of the FBI.
I left the area thinking that this very small group of people couldn’t possibly make much of a difference. It’s a rag tag demonstration. More a party than a serious effort to change the financial system. But as I walked north I thought of a different time in history. One that I participated in. To me, there was a very similar feeling in Zuccotti Park in 2011 to what existed in San Francisco in 1967.
The 1967 Summer of Love was a period where social/political changes began. The allure of sex, drugs, and rock and roll were very powerful magnets for this 17 year old.
I crossed the country and spent a few memorable months in San Francisco’s Haight Ashbury District.
I slept in a crash pad. I went to the Fillmore West and watched Jim Morrison of the Doors sing “Light My Fire” till sun came up. And yes, there were drugs. And yes there was “Free Love” in the park. And yes, it was a hell of a party. And yes, there was not much relevance to the whole thing.
But three years later a million people marched on D.C. and it altered the outcome of a war. It also tore the country inside out. It would be a big mistake to dismiss what is going on in Zuccotti Park. Whatever is happening there, it's not going to go away. It’s going to get bigger.
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Bruce
I'm glad you enjoyed your stroll down memory lane
BUT
this is not 1969
This is a world of informants, disinformation agents, provocateurs, astro turf, and color revolutions. Do you have any idea who organized them, who they are working for, or even what they want? Remember the scams that were the Egyptian and Libyan uprisings?
Webster Tarpley is a little left for my liking, but he offers some interesting insights into world events
http://tarpley.net/2011/10/07/occupy-wall-street-who-wants-to-hijack-the-movement/
There is a lot of anger out there looking to take action. Don't you think that the TPTB knows that? Would they not take action to confuse and misdirect that anger? The vids are on utube of this "spontaneous" uprising being planned months ago by the usual list of unions and community organizers. Don't fall for the sentiment. LOOK at them. ask questions.
I feel the same about Tarpley....he advocates FDR style solutions...yikes!
You might want to check out G. Edward Griffin for a more freedom-oriented analysis on what is REALLY going on. He is an AMAZING intellect! You can youtube him or find him on his websites: realityzone.com and freedom-force.org.
You will NOT have wasted your time!
Have you gone and asked questions? There's an occupation in every major city now. No excuse. I went. It's very grass roots.
good point. there are no protests in my part of the country. but I heard the evidence months ago on the net. the intial protests were no spontaneous eruption of public sentiment. they were carefully planned by the typical large organizations you would goto if you were a PTB who wanted a rentamob. The only question is digging far enough to find where the buck truely stops. I suspect that many of the secondary actions might just be part of the "growing momentum" meme. Most of the people there I'm sure a very honest in their intentions and feelings, but they have no idea who created this or the real reasons why. Don't you find it odd that many of the protestors worship Obama, the same man who filled his admin with big bank insiders?
I also hold Tarpley in high regard. I don't blindly accept everything he says, but do consider him a good source. If he says it stinks of fish, I think we should check the nets.
RKH:
Yep, it is so 'grass roots' that the bigger venues have their own PR firms and all seem to be a) with a meta-message, but b) without any detailed and coordinated sets of "demands." And rather huge Soros support.
Occupation in every major city? So quickly? Same message? Methinks that the grass roots are astroturf.
- Ned
{Did Freud invent the concept of "pre-jection?"}
I can only speak to the details in my town, having attended. There was an 'eat the rich' sign. There were 100 others that expressed frustration that I agree with. So quickly? Well, we've all been bitching on here about the banks for 2 years - there was a base ready made. Same message? What is the message? All I can say is go observe for yourself. Most of what I've read did not represent what I saw.
Odd how the critics have yet to attend, isn't it?
Glad you mentioned Haight-Ashbury and the Doors...perfect seque for wake up call #1: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html...the detailed description of the stranger than fiction connections between just about every icon of the 60's scene and CIA psyops and even stranger percentage of stars who came out of career military families...
which leads me to
wake up call #2 http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/overthrow-inc-doing-what-the-... in it's own way is even stranger than above strangness!>they marched on DC to end a war that the puppetmasters behind the scenes had designed to be unwinnable and kill/or disable as many American fighting men as possible....clearly USA should never have gone in to Nam in the first place, but to make them go in and and then be subject to a campaign of pyschological warfare in the field conducted by the witting or unwitting dupes back home was a new level of Machiavellian psyop only a Nazified Secret Government could pull off!
That's a whole lot to chew on(for the few who will bother to research history in pursuit of irritating facts), and I already did throw in Tarpleys' very interesting backgrounder here last week,
But, here it is again, because...
wake up call #3 http://tarpley.net/2011/10/07/occupy-wall-street-who-wants-to-hijack-the... has some great stuff on the behind the scenes machinations, which once you've read #2, makes such perfect sense, that you'd have to be high on hopium to not agree with Dave's lead off quote from #1...there's something happening here...what it is ain't exactly clear....
I'll let troglodyte leftists and rightists argue over exactly what that something might be....while we anti-statists get on with pouring more corrosive acid over the fictions which sustain both factions' fantasies.
The sixties were a great time to be alive, no doubt about it...but one must not confuse the games of childhood and adolescence with the business of saving the Republic from those bent upon destroying it.
Appreciated your earlier link to tarpley, J. I've circulated it a bit in the liberal blogspace and found some appropriate concern.
Many of us recognize that if this incipient movement ends up endorsing Obama in any way, that will prove it has been hijacked, plain and simple.
Similar view in "Occupy Boston" over the weekend. More "threatening" signs, although the number decreased over the weekend (data points Friday PM, several on Sat/Sun). - Ned
{Bruce, what was your Draft Lottery Number?}
YOOHOO my stinky bitches. While you all done been dreaming about a new summer of love, instead of a winter of discontent, this shit been happening
http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_19016660
Last bank shuts doors on Colorado pot dispensariesOn Friday, the last bank in Colorado to openly work with the medical-marijuana industry — Colorado Springs State Bank — officially closed down the accounts of dispensaries and others in the state's legal marijuana business over concerns about working with companies that are, by definition, breaking federal law. Robert Frichtel, an industry consultant who runs the Medical Marijuana Business Exchange, estimated the number of accounts the bank held to be around 300.
That development — the latest in a series of problems medical-marijuana businesses have had in finding banks to work with — has sent the industry into a now-familiar scramble to find a place for its money. What's different this time is that no obvious solution has presented itself, leading Frichtel and others to conclude the industry is in for a prolonged period of operating cash-only.
"My clients are in a panic state over how they are going to survive in an all-cash environment," Frichtel said.
http://www.stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2011/oct/06/obama_administration...
Obama Administration's War on Medical Marijuana Continues to EscalateThe IRS announced that medical marijuana dispensaries, which the federal government does not recognize as nonprofits even when their states do, cannot deduct the major costs of doing business on their tax returns -- rent, payroll, etc. -- a move that could make collective provision of marijuana to patients difficult to continue. Harborside Health Center in Oakland, a major and well-respected leader in the field (our Scott Morgan has dubbed Harborside "The Best Place in the World to Buy Marijuana"), paid millions in taxes but owes millions more. They say they'll have to stop operating if the appeals process fails to reverse the decision.
Tomorrow California US Attorneys say they'll announce a new "strategy," including forfeiture actions and maybe worse against property owners who rent buildings or land to medical marijuana businesses. It's not a completely new threat, but it is sounding like an enlarged one.
http://www.freep.com/article/20111001/NEWS06/110010470
Have a license for medical pot? You can't have a gun, U.S. saysMichigan's medical-marijuana users can't catch a break.
Three major state appeals court decisions have gone against them in the last month. Now, federal authorities have issued an order that licensed medical-marijuana users nationwide can't possess a gun.
That means no hunting, no target shooting, no gun collecting and no guns for personal protection -- even by patients who legally cultivate marijuana crops -- according to a Sept. 21 directive to prosecutors nationwide from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Restrictions on medical pot growMichigan's medical-marijuana users can be evicted from their apartments at any time under a recent opinion by the state attorney general.
A host of other state restrictions are in place or looming for Michiganders who carry state-issued cards to use cannabis for health reasons.
And this week, a federal firearms memo surfaced that says medical-marijuana users fall under nationwide rules against gun ownership by drug abusers.
The tightening restrictions by law enforcement authorities aims "to stop the wave of acceptance of medical marijuana," Detroit defense attorney and registered patient Matt Abel said Friday.
"And that's a fool's errand because there is no going back," he said. "A lot of the population knows now that marijuana works" to alleviate pain and many medical conditions.
The ban on gun use by medical-marijuana patients nationwide came in a U.S. Department of Justice letter sent Sept. 21 to state and county prosecutors across the country. The directive says: "Any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes ... is prohibited by Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition."
The letter merely clarifies federal law that has been in effect since 1968, Justice Department spokesman Drew Wade said Friday from Washington.
"People were going into gun stores (in Michigan and elsewhere) and showing these marijuana cards as proof of residence and ID," Wade said. Firearms retailers "were unclear on what to do. The sate laws said one thing and federal law said another" about whether such individuals could buy firearms and ammunition, he said.
Medical-marijuana users and their attorneys said they were stunned, while law enforcement authorities said the directive made sense.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-cia-killlist-idUSTRE79475C2...
Secret panel can put Americans on "kill list'American militants like Anwar al-Awlaki are placed on a kill or capture list by a secretive panel of senior government officials, which then informs the president of its decisions, according to officials.
There is no public record of the operations or decisions of the panel, which is a subset of the White House's National Security Council, several current and former officials said. Neither is there any law establishing its existence or setting out the rules by which it is supposed to operate.
http://boingboing.net/2011/10/09/secret-us-court-order-demands-email-dat...
Secret US Court Order demands email data for WikiLeaks volunteer Jacob AppelbaumThe U.S. government has obtained a controversial type of secret court order to force Google Inc. and small Internet provider Sonic.net Inc. to turn over information from the email accounts of WikiLeaks volunteer Jacob Appelbaum, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.
http://www.dailytech.com/New+York+Democrats+Argue+Free+Speech+is+a+Privi...
New York Democrats Argue Free Speech is a Privilege That Can be Revoked
The latest effort on this front comes from four Democratic New York state senators, who have published a report entiteld "Cyberbullying: A Report on Bullying in a Digital Age". In that report, Sen. Jeff Klein, Diane Savino, David Carlucci, and David Valesky argue that the First Amendment has been long misinterpreted by politicians and courts and really means that free speech is a privilege (not a right), which can be taken away.
They write:
Proponents of a more refined First Amendment argue that this freedom should be treated not as a right but as a privilege — a special entitlement granted by the state on a conditional basis that can be revoked if it is ever abused or maltreated.
The argument that free speech was not intended as a protected right seems rather baffling given that the First Amendment is part of the "Bill of Rights."
http://www.dailytech.com/DHS+Testing+Minority+ReportLike+PreCrime+Unit/a...
DHS Testing "Minority Report"-Like Pre-Crime Unit
FAST pre-crime unit is used to collect information such as gender, age, and ethnicity
Someone call Tom Cruise, because "Minority Report" is taking a leap from fiction to reality -- except the real version, which is currently being tested by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, doesn't depend on human psychics called precogs, but rather a screening facility with set algorithms.
This new "pre-crime" detection facility was discovered via a June 2010 DHS document that was acquired by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC). The document states that information is currently collected and retained on "members of the public" as part of the pre-crime system, which is called Future Attribute Screening Technology (FAST).
FAST is made up of algorithms that use factors including gender, age, ethnicity, heart rate, body movements, occupation, voice pitch changes, body heat fluctuations and breathing patterns to identify clues as to whether the individual(s) will commit a crime in the future.
The idea behind FAST is to prevent crimes from happening before individuals even have a chance to commit them based on the factors listed above. It is able to do this through the use of sensors that collect audio recordings, video images and psychophysiological measurements.
( I can't find the article now but there is a bill making drug use illegal for US citizens in other countries, even when it is legal in that country.)
Ted Rall thinks there was a Star Trek personality switch
http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/ce4e21d0d33a012e2f9100163e41dd5b
We should also be careful of what we wish for:
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/152f6390-f2a7-11e0-931e-00144feab49a.html#axzz1aOLa2qyU
At least 23 dead in Egyptian church protests Eyewitnesses say thousands of Christians had marched to the main television building in central Cairo where they were set upon by the military police
http://link.ft.com/r/BLH300/L93BPK/YH07VH/SPPLQK/WT6OBK/YT/h?a1=2011&a2=10&a3=9
Ahmed Yahia, a Muslim resident who lives near the TV building told the Associated Press News Agency, said he saw a military vehicle plough into protesters.
“I saw a man’s head split into two halves and a second body flattened when the armored vehicle ran over it,” he said. “When some Muslims saw the blood they joined the Christians against the army.”
Eyewitnesses said thousands of Christians had marched to the main television building in central Cairo on Sunday, where they were set upon by the military police, who fired into the air and drove vehicles into the crowd to try to disperse them.
“Military police attacked the protesters,” said Tamer al-Mihy, one of the demonstrators. “I heard shots being fired and the soldiers started hitting the people with sticks and belts. Then I saw two armoured vehicles speeding in opposite directions and running over the protesters.” He said he saw at least three people “drenched in blood” and “many people” who had been hit by the vehicles.
Television footage showed burning cars and battles between crowds throwing stones near the television building, which overlooks the Nile. Egyptian television appeared to be fanning the violence by inviting citizens to go to the defence of the army. The state broadcaster portrayed the clashes as an attack by Copts on the military.
The Christians are furious at the attack last month by a Muslim crowd of a newly rebuilt church in the village of Marinab, in the province of Aswan in the south of the country. Local Muslims are reported to have set the church alight after incitement by a preacher. Comments by the governor of Aswan in which he appeared to justify the attack by saying the church was not licensed and that it was a guest house inflamed Coptic anger.
Attacks against churches have increased since the popular uprising that toppled Hosni Mubarak as president in February. The loosening grip of the police after the revolution and the fluid political situation have allowed ultraconservative Islamist groups to express open hostility towards Christians.
The authorities promised after the revolution to pass laws banning religious discrimination and facilitating the building of churches. So far, neither law has materialised.
With parliamentary elections due to be held in November, the bloodshed is certain to add to worries about the country’s transition to democracy.
And how does FT see it? Stock fall because 23+ people are dead. Sigh....
bbb.bbb...bbbut, this was the "peaceful" "Arab Spring!"
How could this happen?
- Ned
They traded a corrupt, U. S. influenced government for control by the military. Like I said, we need to be careful of what we wish for.
Interesting that pot smokers are not allowed to own guns but the pot growers are, and our govt even ships it to them FAST AND FURIOUSLY
Tramp Stamper
What is REALLY interesting is those LEGALLY PRESCRIBED Pot smokers are denied a CONSTITUTIONAL right without being CONVICTED of any CRIME!
That would be TWO CONSTITUTIONAL rights they are denied, right to bear arms and right to trial.
And not a fucking word except from the pot smoking crowd.
Yeah, well what do you expect? Until they're in debilitating pain or at their wits' end with nausea, almost EVERYBODY thinks cannabis is only about getting high.
Gully, fortunately for many here in the Peoples' Commonwealth, possession of "small" quantities of herb is no longer a crime, nor is the "acrid and pungent smell of burning" herb permitted to serve as "probable cause" for further investigation. No pungent clouds that I could distinguish (the campsite is right along Atlantic Avenue, "thick with" ... er ... traffic.
And Cruise in Minority Report is so last-decade. See the real deal e.g.:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=dick&sts=t&tn=minority+...
Are you shilling for the next new TV series?
- Ned
{but the secret "kill-list" for American Citizens makes my blood boil.}
New_Meat
Only the secret kill list? Not the secret decision on the WIKILEAKS guy?
Both are disgusting do to the secrecy.
Gully, I attempt to do some research first. So, yes, I've been on fire about targeting American Citizens. Looking into the others. Yes, almost all of this is worthy of cold, focused anger, due to secrecy, hidden agendas, (and for me, especially, the evident double standards all around). We ought to be working up something effective; these are not in that zone imho. But all teams have a pre-season and do team-building exercises.
- Ned
{Targeting Citizens is another part of blurring the distinctions between groups.}
Quite a twisted path being laid by the various Departments of our KGB apparatus. Chilling.
It will be interesting to see if the Liberty crowd--including the NRA--goes to bat in defense of personal liberty for all those dangerous potheads.
The NRA has been corrupted for awhile now...lots of other better gun orgs to support.
Thanks for the Boston perspective. I enjoyed the Fuck the Fed video posted last week from Beantown. I bet those banksters are shitting sharp edged bricks.
7 days until Black Monday II
Wakanda, yes, that is the sense I had, right on the edge of violence/threats onto inanimate objects/organizations/theoretical people. As to "Fuck the Fed", not even with yours, baby.
- Ned
312. It is the only lotto I ever won. I lost a bunch of friends and a few relatives in that war.
I can't believe you remember that. You obviously did not do enough torpedos.
My husband was the right age and just a few numbers off (days from being called). You remember that all your life, I think. He went any way, a few years later.
Thanks, I'm tracking what we see vs. what is unseen. Saw the kid "pied-piper" from the local PR firm, who has been leading previous endeavors; they'll be marching up Washington street today to the Boston Common for their activities. Great weather, should be a good turnout.
I asked about the draft because I'm wondering what the difference in motivations is/will be. I doubt that there are three years left in this buildup. Motivations to protest got pretty strong in the three years you mention, especially for double-digit midgits, back then. I was a skosh' younger, but, well, the draft didn't matter to me.
- Ned
Me too...missed it by a handful of years.
Kudos for making the effort to get first hand impressions, Bruce! Much appreciated.
Agree. The stuff going on in my area feels forced and contrived. Good to see other stuff from the ground.
Cloward Pivens living large at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Have a nice day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
I was watching a live stream of the OWS demonstration playing in the backround while I was working a few days ago. What was happening was various people were giving speeches. The stuff I heard was disturbing where people were literally calling for a complete shut down of America, to bring down America, and to burn down WallStreet. Maybe I just caught the minority but at least from the livestream I saw there definately is a fringe element to the group .
yes revolution and anarchy are scarey to us since we have never seen it.......that is because we are a civilized people and we are the light of the world and everybody wants to be like us and hates our freedoms or so we are told. meanwhile we invade countries based upon lies and kill innocent people and say ..........again and again, pitifully........may God bless the troops. and...........He will not and He will not bless us either..........
"I don't remember saying that [the song] Revolution was revolutionary... You say that in order to change the world you have to destroy it. Ruthlessly. You're obviously on a destruction kick. I'll tell you what's wrong with it - people. So, do you want to destroy them? Ruthlessly? You seem to think it's just a class war... The lyrics still stand today. They're still my feelings about politics: I want to see the PLAN. That is what I used to say to Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman. Count me out if it's for violence... What's the point in bombing Wall Street? If you want to change the system, change the system. It's no good shooting people" -- John Lennon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb4tYOk8GE
jerry rubin and abbie hoffman were cia agents.........the entire 60's movement was controlled opposition and was designed to destroy amerika by corrupting her religious faith and destroying the family..........another move and that was part and parcel to the overall main plan.....destroy white western european culture, the one and only one that can stop the nwo......and they know it........and they fear it so .......so they work to destroy it and we sit and we watch and we argue..........and we think we are free........
OK. Let's flip the coin. Would you want to be one of the ones drinking champagne on the second floor of Wall Street?
Just as long as "we" don't get caught up in trying to re-live our lives vicariously through the youth of today.
Why not? The only real difference is our ages. The sentiments and the (lack of) focus are the same. It's the 30 to 55 year-olds who don't seem to get it. They have too much "invested" in the existing system, having too much to lose, to see it taken down. When you get have-nots getting angry then you have a movement. Both ends of this age spectrum have seen the most of their wealth removed and transferred to the elite. The older ones in actual earned physical wealth (e.g. low interest rates), and the younger ones in their future earning ability (e.g. student loan burden).
Geraldo and Fox run away from Wall Street YouTube
John Lewis might disagree.
I saw that...encouraging.
I can't say much for the process...lol...but the result was a good thing. Don't allow it to be co-opted.
They tried the same thing with the TP...it was beat back, regardless of what anyone around here thinks. Boehner still has nightmares ;-)
Hey Rocky,
Like I said afterwards they all need to take a good hard look around at who gave them the shaft and now who is acting like one of them. In many cases its one in the same.
They also need to ask themselves seriously...what is the purpose of government really. Its not supposed to be, because I like green energy we need to force its subsidation on everyone else because its unprofitable.
There are many other examples.
There is not a monied interest nor a politician alive (not that those are inseparable entities) that are not willing to jump in front of a parade. Just because the usual suspects are trying to usurp the "purpose" of OWT doesn't mean that the brass band is on board with the values of the lead float.
Well, we know where the genesis came from...odd they didn't pick the Canadian exhange...lol.
At any rate...I think everyone is waiting to see just what the "purpose" really is.
You know my feelings on IB's they should have been allowed to fail. And we all know why they were not allowed to fail. Its a two headed hydra as tip e has said.
And as I have said...I don't think going after the fruadulent"welfare recipient" instead of the one cutting the check isn't going to accomplish much...sayin.
Youth rebels, even in a perfect world. It's natures way.
If it's anything like the 60s the girls are there because they care, and the boys are there because they want to get laid.
All the other stuff is window dressing. I remember walking out of class in HS for a anti Viet Nam war protest by the cafeteria. I went for two reasons - My hot Japanese neighbor, 2 years ahead of me, asked me to [hope!] and I was willing to walk out of class for any reason. A year later I was in the Army.
Let the youth have their fun, recognize it for what it is. It's the unions and leftists I worry about. Not some kids having fun.
We did senior knock off day. How it did'nt leak out , no one knows. But when we came back, it was line up in the auditorium and excuse list check. Then they wanted a note from your parents saying they wrote the first one.
Generation envy?
"It's the unions and leftists I worry about. Not some kids having fun."
Same here...one two three four what are we fightin for?...hey hey I don't give a damn...next stop is Vietnam...lol.
I'll have more respect for it when the tenured professors who recieved the bailouts own up to "their crime" and quit treating it as an event to go to for the day and return to their mansions at night.
Same with the solar corp CEO's et al.
"Congressman Eric Cantor mad (sic) a foolish remark over the weekend. He referred to the happenings in lower Manhattan as a “Mob Scene”. Cantor’s an ass. He has no clue what is going on. This was just a dumb sound bite. He will regret it.
There was no mob. There were no professional provocateurs. There was festive attitude. There was no anarchy."
With the union involvememt there will be professional provocateurs. No anarchy yet perhaps, but remember the Wisconsin Capitol mob? Give it time.
I think you are an ass for making these statements, and you will regret it.
i certainly don't think bruce is a ass, but i would have to say , you are probably correct otherwise.......it is early . give it time. the provocateurs are already in place. when it is time, they will do what they do ......early last week bloomberg was whining and saying this event is costing new york money. then he shut up........hmmm. they probably told him to shut up ......don't worry about it bloomie. we got your back......we will take care of your little city. just let us deal with this anti wall street situation.......bloomie , just shut the fuck up and do your little job and don't worry about ows.....we will deal with it in our own good time..........and so it is.........