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Mainstream Reports: The U.S. and Israel - Like Muslim Countries - Support Terrorists
Senior U.S. officials say - according to NBC news - that Israel is training and supporting Iranian terrorists:
I noted last month that the U.S. is as well:
The Mujahideen e Khalq (MEK) ... along with its political arm, the National Council of Resistance in Iran (NCRI), is listed by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist organisation.
Interestingly, the Bush Administration – and especially Dick Cheney – helped to fund the MEK (see confirming articles here and here).
And the New York Times, Washington Post and others are reporting that Rudy Giuliani, former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, former national security adviser Fran Townsend and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey are supporting the MEK as well.
Glenn Greenwald notes:
There are numerous Muslims inside the U.S. who have been prosecuted for providing “material support for Terrorism” for doing far less than these American politicians are publicly doing on behalf of a designated Terrorist group.
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Yet here we have numerous American political figures receiving substantial fees from a group which is legally designated under American law as a Terrorist organization. Beyond that, they are meeting with the Terrorist leaders of that group repeatedly .... And, after receiving fees from the Terrorist group and meeting with its Terror leaders, these American political figures are going forth and disseminating pro-MEK messages on its behalf and working to have it removed from the Terrorist list.
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What they are providing to MEK is the definitive “material support.”
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Indeed, as Georgetown Law Professor David Cole noted, these activities on behalf of MEK are clearly prosecutable as “material support for Terrorism” under the standard advocated by the Bush and Obama DOJs and accepted by the Supreme Court in the Holder v. Humanitarian Law case of 2009, which held that even peaceful advocacy on behalf of a Terrorist group can be prosecuted if done in coordination with the group (ironically, many of these paid MEK supporters have long been advocates of broad application of “material support statutes” (when applied to Muslims, that is) and have even praised the Humanitarian Law case). If we had anything even remotely approaching equal application of the law, [U.S. politicians who have aided MEK] would be facing prosecution as Terrorist-helpers.
Then there’s long been the baffling question of where MEK was getting all of this money to pay these American officials. Indeed, the pro-MEK campaign has been lavishly funded. As the CSM noted: ”Besides the string of well-attended events at prestigious American hotels and locations, and in Paris, Brussels, and Berlin, the campaign has included full-page advertisements in The New York Times and Washington Post — which can cost $175,000 apiece.” MEK is basically little more than a nomadic cult: after they sided with Saddam Hussein in his war with Iran, they were widely loathed in Iran and their 3,400 members long lived in camps in Iraq, but the Malaki government no longer wants them there. How has this rag-tag Terrorist cult of Iranian dissidents, who are largely despised in Iran, able to fund such expensive campaigns and to keep U.S. officials on its dole?
All of these mysteries received substantial clarity from an NBC News report by Richard Engel and Robert Windrem yesterday. Citing two anonymous “senior U.S. officials,” that report [states that] the Terrorist group “is financed, trained and armed by Israel’s secret service.” These senior officials also admitted that “the Obama administration is aware of the assassination campaign” but claims it “has no direct involvement.” Iran has long insisted the Israel and the U.S. are using MEK to carry out Terrorist attacks on its soil, including the murder of its scientists, and NBC notes that these acknowledgments “confirm charges leveled by Iran’s leaders” ....
There are a number of vital questions and conclusions raised by this. First, it would be mean that the assurances by MEK’s paid American shills ... that “they are unarmed” are totally false: whoever murdered these scientists is obviously well-armed. Second, this should completely gut the effort to remove MEK from the list of designated Terrorist groups; after all, murdering Iran’s scientists through the use of bombs and guns is a defining act of a Terror group, at least as U.S. law attempts to define the term. Third, this should forever resolve the debate in which I was involved last month about whether the attack on these Iranian scientists constitutes Terrorism; as Daniel Larson put it yesterday: “If true, the murders of Iranian nuclear scientists with bombs have been committed by a recognized terrorist group. Can everyone acknowledge at this point that these attacks were acts of terrorism?”
Fourth, and most important: if this report is true, is this not definitive proof that Israel is, by definition, a so-called state sponsor of Terrorism? Leaving everything else aside, if Israel, as NBC reports, has “financed, trained and armed” a group officially designated by the U.S. Government as a Terrorist organization, isn’t that the definitive act of how one becomes an official “state sponsor of Terrorism”?
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Of course, as I documented in my last book, those who are politically and financially well-connected are free to commit even the most egregious crimes; for that reason, the very idea of prosecuting Giuliani, Rendell, Ridge, Townsend, Dean and friends for their paid labor on behalf of a Terrorist group is unthinkable, a suggestion not fit for decent company .... The term Terrorism is so completely meaningless, manipulated and mischievous: it’s just a cynical term designed to delegitimize violence and even political acts undertaken by America’s enemies while shielding from criticism the actual Terrorism undertaken by itself and its allies. The spectacle whereby a designated Terrorist group can pay top American politicians to advocate for them even as they engage in violent Terrorist acts, all while being trained, funded and aided by America’s top client state, should forever end the controversy over that glaringly obvious proposition.
Indeed, high-level U.S. and Israeli officials have admitted that they carry out terrorism.
For example:
- The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950?s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister
- Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)
And the former director of the National Security Agency said:
By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.
Note: I am not defending Muslim terrorists or picking on the U.S. and Israel. Many nations - including Muslim countries - have carried out terrorist attacks. I am simply pointing to the hypocrisy, double standards and imperial arrogance of America and Israel.
If the U.S. and Israel sponsor terrorism, then Jimmy Carter’s National Security Adviser was correct when he told the Senate in 2007: the war on terror is “a mythical historical narrative”.
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Look....stop with your divisive bullshit! Let's just strip this down to the cold hard facts:
Radical Islamists are evil.
Radical Zionists are evil.
Radical Anglo/American elites are evil.
Do you see the unifying theme? RADICAL. There are radicals in most if not all groups. But unfortunately, they tend to end up at the helm, and seem hell-bent on dragging millions of people down with them to the pit of hell. Broad generalizations don't help. But when there are irrefutable facts that a certain group has committed evil, they deserve to be called out. Why must we continue to delude ourselves that "America and Israel can do no wrong?" Allowing one's country to do immoral things is actually UNPATRIOTIC.
I WISH I could say that America was not hijacked by a bunch of globalist psychopathetic warmongers....but I would be lying to myself. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.
Gain a more discerning understanding of people commenting here. We are all afraid, depressed, and concerned as to the potential armaggedon-like situation we could very soon find ourselves in. People let off steam here....and sometimes, it borders the melodramatic (including myself). But people aren't necessarily criticizing their entire country....just the psychopaths that are IN CONTROL of the country they love and want back.
Botom line: ALL persons in their respective countries are held hostage and forced to watch while a bunch of evil and power hungry bastards play out a global chessgame in which the endgame is and always has been DEATH and DESTRUCTION.
Are you cool with that? Because I'm sure not...
The elites create "simple mental constructs" for the average joe to understand, like, "it's us good guys against them bad guys".
Apply your own statement of "a game within a game..." to this very situation!
The "game" is not REALLY about Iran and supposed nukes, etc.
It's about decimating as many countries hostile to Israel as possible so that the political Zionists are free to pursue and achieve their ultimate goal, "Greater Israel". That is an irrefutable fact, not anti-semitic speech.
And since a "greater Israel" (original expanded territories that they lost in approx 70 ad) cannot be achieved without massive bloodshed and death, are you on board with America achieving this goal for the Zionists? Are you a-okay with sending your kid to slaughter for the ultimate purpose of Israel expanding their borders?
The people that control Israel and America are NOT patriots....they adhere to an extremely satanic world agenda.
I, for one, will NOT allow my sons to be sent into a war for these purposes. And if you think that any war over there from here on out will just be a neat and tidy "surgical strike mission" and has no possibility of turning into a thermo-nuclear global holocaust, then you truly don't understand the ultimate agenda of these psychopathic, evil "world leaders"!
And for the record, many in our military and defense department are working feverishly behind the scenes to STOP a war from happening, as they know what could happen. I only wish they would grow a pair and conduct a HUGE global press conference to out these warmongering bastards. That could solve a LOT of problems!
You are spewing more Israeli and MSM bullshit propaganda. The fact that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons is a commonly know fact for anyone that bothers to read information rather than have it spoon fed to them.
Wake the fuck up man.
Why is Iran "evil"? Because Israel said so? SPARE ME!
Your post is the most demented pile of propagandistic bullshit I have read in a long motherfucking time. You are, in short, out of your fucking mind.
If you actually read a book once in while you just might see what is is and not bill clinton is. Did the msm and israel fake the bargery pirates? was that all a part of the zionist plot long ago. Was hitlers plan to destroy the jooos all just an american propaganda campaign for isreal to one day run all of our banks? Besides when one day the IAEA says that Iran is one year away from gettng a nuke, then comes out two weeks later and says that they are not trying to possess a nuke and them wash rinse and repeat this story over and over and over. remeber when muhammed albharedi was head of the IAEA and the same crap over and over again. Who's out of their mind? the one listening to the other msm that is telling you that Iran is not getting a nuke and iran doen't want to annihilate israel and that it is all a bunch of american propaganda, and that the hollocaust never happened. And i bet you a mint that you believe that insane crap as well. thank you public education. BTW who is it that will kill you for drawing a picture or making a joke about their beloved mohammed? go ask salman rushdie about that. oh wait you can't because he was stabbed to death by a muslim.
Wow, someone better tell Salmon Rushdie to cancel his next appearence since he's dead already. http://www.salman-rushdie.com/blog/appearances/
Noooo! e's deads I tells ya! da muzies gots im in da bak! ...
Rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated!
At least his 'info' is akurate.
correction- theo van goegh was stabbed to death by a muslim for criticizing islam. i at least need to be correct for the sake of the living. sure'd hate to find out i was dead.
sorry about mr. rushdie. my bad
You are one seriously demented and uninformed tool.
It's of no use trying to reply to you with facts or reason.
I'd stand a better chance of teaching a Walrus to perform an appendectomy than I would of penetrating your thick skull with anything even remotely resembling a fact.
This is an exercise in futility that I will no longer engage in.
Go ahead and babble away til the fuckin wheels fall off. The floor is yours.
I see that you are a star graduate of the Tavistock Institute!
(Do you even know what that is?)
The sad thing is that you have been so propagandized and mind-controlled that you do not see that the foundation of your opinions and "knowledge" has been carefully constructed for you over a period of decades.
Stockholm Syndrome is a bitch!
Even if they were and did get one, who are we to stop them? North Korea and Pakistan have them already. We have more to worry about from Pakistan today than we do from Iran in the future.
Best. The complete failure. Makes my day. Utter US citizenism.
Utter US citizenism.
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I think you meant to say "udder US citizenism", as cows and their Oriental-indigestable dairy products are clearly part of the vast, organized conspiracy against Chinese citizenism citizens, not to mention autistic Chinese trolls.
It never gets old...lol.
I think we need a new name for our obsessive compulsive chopstick washer...how about Yang Wanger?
Bullseye. I am way more afraid of the "USA Patriot Act", than I am of some mythical swineherder huddled in a cave half-way around the world.
george, you are the very absolute best.....
"...the very idea of prosecuting Giuliani, Rendell, Ridge, Townsend, Dean and friends for their paid labor on behalf of a Terrorist group is unthinkable,..."
speak for yourself.....i find the idea compelling and imperative....
the cia is without peer as the number 1 terrorist organization in the world....most of the terrorism in the middle east has been sponsored and organized by the cia...this goes back to at least immediate post-war including the king david hotel incident....
"... the war on terror is “a mythical historical narrative”...."
this is a delicious quote and mirrors exactly what nick rockefeller told aaron russo about the coming war on terror in 2000....rockefeller laughed at how easily the fucktarded american would be so cowed and convinced by the charade, including the wtc attacks....
the bush crime syndicate played and plays a material role in these acts of terror....
another conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.
dang liberal truthers.
The fact that the MSM is only NOW getting around to this story is nothing short of irrefutable evidence of their incompetence. This story, of Israel sponsoring terrorist groups, has been in the "alternative" media for years and years and it has always been brushed aside as "anti-semitism" and "conspiracy theory".
The only revelation in this story is that the MSM is incompetent....but then again...is that really news?
Of course, the MSM are incompetent when it comes to reporting objectively by choice. That makes them exceedingly competent as calculating spewers of official propaganda.
Exactly.
Which leads directly to the question: what do the elites have to gain by using the MSM to bring attention to this subject?
It could be two things:
I'm still pondering #2. Not that it should be unexpected; the elite are masters at generating and channelling anger for their own purposes.
i tend to agree with you. the MSM is almost totally propaganda. so this does not just slip out randomly. not clear to me yet what the purpose of this disclosure is, but have to believe that it will be come clear, and most likely relates to some form of 'divide and conquer' as applied to the U.S. public.
Well, Brian Kilmeade from Faux News is OUTRAGED that this has "slipped out"! He was apoplectic! Hilarious....
the bombings in Syria this morning are NATO/Cabal terrorism. So much for the U.S. propaganda about fighting against terrorism. it has become so blatent now that only a zombie couldn't see what is really going on as the US and Israel try and collapse one country after another in hopes of creating a fascist new world order. RT had the following piece on the bombings: http://youtu.be/zZQoxigZW4Q
Yes, and have a look at what Russia is saying about it. They are not fooled one bit by such bombings, and the more this goes on the more ready for war and escalation they will become, because they KNOW the US and NATO and Israel are working according to a carefully preconceived strategic plan, that ends with Russia and China squeezed out, as their connections to the region and their adjacent border areas are being systematically overturned and reconstituted along western and Israeli whims.
I suspect the Russians are going to get a LOT more involved on the ground, soon. Meanwhile western intellectual 'analysts' are busy convincing themselves that Russia and China can't do much and will just have to accept the Western use of terrorism and insurgency to overturn the middle east, with full Saudi complicity.
yeaaah! .... rriiiiiggghhhhtttt!
"I am a terrorist, do this or else we will get you!"
"Do this! Or these terrorist will get you!"
What is the difference? After 9/11 terrorism became official U.S. domestic policy, and war crimes became its foreign policy.
Terrorism: Using violence, or the threat of violence to create an atmosphere of fear, in furtherance of some goal.
Yeah, we're damn good at terrorism. And we may about to get even better.
Pakistan has picked Iran's side should Israel attack...
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/225791.html
yeah, the US gov has hired mafia figures during WW2 and after the failure of the Bay of Pigs in Cuba, for some examples look at South America and US involvement.
After 9/11? Do you mean 2001? Are you serious?
Terrorism has been a policy tool of governments since the begining of time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte
And those who seek power too.