MF Global looting can continue! Missing funds and fees likely to go higher: Guest Post by MFGFacts.com

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Sat, 12/03/2011 - 00:04 | 1940825 trovaxo
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Will this event trigger a run on U.S. banks? What keeps the same meltdown from happening at Bank of America, Vanguard or whoever?

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 19:25 | 1927934 Ron Hera
Mon, 11/28/2011 - 16:18 | 1922424 lynnybee
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thank you for this posting re MFGLOBAL.    fascinating stuff & the general public is clueless & doesn't understand what just went down .... kind of like 9/11 attack , where did all that gold in the sub-basement go anyway ?   

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 14:44 | 1921688 Forgiven
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Thank you sir, may I have another?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 14:19 | 1921607 onlooker
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“”Why is it illegal for people to rob banks but legal for the banks to rob the people?””

Because bank robbers may use guns or other devices which can induce harm.

Loosing everything you have and living in your car or on the street and being susceptible to disease, depression and malnutrition and subjecting you’re children to danger and harm is not an USA statistic.  Destruction of the economy and the American population has not been proven to be the fault of the banks.

Overall courts support the power structure and not the rights and interest of the individual citizen.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 14:19 | 1921604 non_anon
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meh, they are just doing Gods work

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:51 | 1921501 Catullus
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Cement shoes. East River. Very effective.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:49 | 1921493 PulauHantu29
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"No one could have seen this coming"...they testified to Congress.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:28 | 1921417 MrBoompi
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I'm sure the author will excuse us if we believe the "integrity of this court" is NOT in question, because we believe there is no integrity at all.  Federal Court will protect the oligarchs.  Hell, they ARE the oligarchs for god's sake.

 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:09 | 1921324 Sean7k
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Why all the surprise?

Financial instruments are created on a regular basis, promising excellent yields, while not producing any legitimate good. It is done through "trading". As long as all the trades work out, everyone gets their "yield". However, if the trade goes bad, then investors are locked out and screwed. 

As these same companies write financial regulation and are capable of owning the judges that will rule in these cases. Is it any surprise we get these results? Oh, the horreur! Someone cheated me, where's the justice?

If you play with snakes, you're going to get bitten. Many of these snakes carry world class toxins. Celente was attempting to create paper profits from trading, not producing a good or service, but trading off of leverage and is outraged he was fooled. He knew there is a problem, he was converting his profits to physical.

Until people stop playing the game for quick riches by the same people that created the game and the rules it is played by, the results will always be the same. Financial companies are criminals, would you invest your money wirth the mafia? Then, quit complaining when they stick a gun in your face and say nada for you fool...

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:07 | 1921323 Sean7k
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I only pressed it once, really!

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 12:52 | 1921269 tony bonn
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i hate to break it to you babycakes but this legal fraud was planned as part of the bankruptcy.....not until a judge certified to enable and legalize criminal and fraudulent behavior was found did the stealing of customer funds begin....also, those customers will never see a goddamned dime of their money.....they can kiss it all goodbye....50%? bwaahahhahahahahaaaa!!!!

let's not be fucktarded about this story any more.....it is legally sanctioned theft and nothing whatsoever will be done about except to throw and occasional bone now and then to the dogs who will then think that justice will finally occur....it won't...

did you not learn anything about gm and chrysler bankruptcies?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:37 | 1921447 MissCellany
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Yes. We'd all best observe closely how this goes down, because 401(k)s will get the same treatment one of these days.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:49 | 1921494 El Viejo
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You can rollover 401ks into self directed (standard not roth) IRAs, but beware many 401k plans only allow one rollover per year.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:00 | 1921299 Rainman
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+ 1 . And speaking as the recipient of numerous piddly little checks from massive fraud settlements, I approve this outstanding rant !!

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 12:17 | 1921117 Rainman
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The favorite tool of the flim-flam artist is confusion. Good goin' !

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:58 | 1921050 apberusdisvet
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Corzine to be named ambassador to a country with no US extradition treaty; you heard it here first.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:44 | 1920985 Loose Caboose
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Celente just popped a blood vessel.

You know, it's up to the clients (read that as "victims") of MFG to get out from behind their lawyers and get their asses down to the street and start protesting right outside MFG's door.  Draw some attention to this crime as it is going down.  Not wait until it churns through the useless court system years from now and gets a white wash and a fair thee well.

This is a case where the customers are being screwed and it is their responsibility to cry bloody murder, in public.  Forget the lawyers - get a posse together.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 18:55 | 1923211 Zero Govt
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fuck the crooks and their crooked system ...MF creditors should pitchfork then string up Corzine and his MF staff without any delay... then hang the liquidator (Trustee my arse) and then guilotine the entire alphabet soup of NY and Chicagos gangster finance: CFTC, CME, SEC and any other initials that make them angry

the creditors out-number this cabal of crooks 100 to 1 ...use your numbers against this criminal minority 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 12:58 | 1921267 JOYFUL
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It's up to the clients (read that as "victims") of MFG to get out from  behind their lawyers and get their asses down to the street and start  protesting right outside MFG's door. Draw some attention to this crime  as it is going down. Not wait until it churns through the useless court  system years from now and gets a white wash and a fair thee well.

Sorry, that needs be reconstructed, using past tenses....back when it still had a chance of mattering, I threw in everything but the kitchen sink to see if something, anything could produce a pulse....No pulse. None. {nb. whiny blog commenting does not qualify as a real response to real crime, anymore than the old lady gets her purse back by crying "Stop Thief"!}

"this is the biggest single stolen money story since Bernie Cornfield's IOS, with as many potential loose ends and damaging consequences as Nugan Hand. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

"If the small investor class does not go completely apeshit over what's already happened to them as of this week, they will assuredly be completely destroyed before that Mayan calendar thingy even has a chance to kick in."

And now, it's gone!  Like Elvis, the $ has left the building. Amerika, that land of "lost"{stolen?} opportunity....snooze n lose.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 14:00 | 1921529 Loose Caboose
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@Joyful.  You're right, of course.  Nothing will happen.  It was just a thought. The outrage of the masses is sufficiently deadened by TV valium and iPad worship.

Well I oughta......oh look!  Something shiney.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:44 | 1920978 waldocktrades
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As a former Lind-Waldock representative whos experienced the Refco bankruptcy first hand as well as the transition to MF GLobal, I can say without question that this like dancing on the grave of our family's reputation. My latest blog, "Fixing MF Global's Mess" ties into our experience at the exchanges.

http://blog.commodityandderivativeadv.com/2011/11/23/fixing-mf-globals-m...

 

Furthermore, to keep people apprised of breaking MF Global news, we started a site, www.mfglobalnews.com

Good luck everyone. We are here to help in any way shape or form, possible.

Sincerely, Andy Waldock.

 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:41 | 1920969 SwingForce
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"Is this an episode from The Twilight Zone?"

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:41 | 1920968 OutLookingIn
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As Bill Black's most famously put it and titled his book after it -

"The best way to rob a bank is to own one!"

In other words the "insiders club" and you aint in it!

The inside of Wall Street is a putrifying, puss filled, fetid, vomitess, cess pit. And this stench is all over the politicians in Washington whos pockets are stuffed with this putrid mess.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:35 | 1920949 Georgesblog
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This will continue long enough for a patsie to get caught with the hand in the cookie jar. Some lower management type or sales rep will leave a paper trail. The public will have their scapegoat. Where all that money went, is another issue. I hope it comes out better than AIG.

http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:31 | 1920928 Vince Clortho
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Further looting is approved until we can determine how much money is missing.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 15:42 | 1922148 Elwood P Suggins
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The looting will continue until morale improves.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:45 | 1920989 sabra1
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further looting is approved, until there is nothing left to loot, then and only then, we'll loot your gold and silver!

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:19 | 1920895 High Plains Drifter
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bill flekenstein says he has money tied up in this mf global business

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41TlJEzU2fs

 

he says its his own personal money and not any of his fund's money.  oh thanks bill. glad you clarified that since you have been known to do the same thing as mf global has done with other people's money in your own funds.......ha ha ha........

 

 

 

 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:03 | 1921308 repete
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Fleck has only been right about one thing in the 12 years I've been following him.  That would be EVERYTHING.  He is one of the smartest guys in the business.  Care to clarify your charges Drifter?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:17 | 1920883 Haole
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Burn, rape and pillage bitchez.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 12:08 | 1921087 spanish inquisition
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Obviously this was MFG customers fault just like the old rape defense. Being sophisticated investors, they should of known the system was corrupt and that investing money with them was just provoking MFG to steal their funds. Going into bankruptsy, anything left will get eaten up by the lawfirm at $5K/hr after you add in all jr partners and assistants. Yep, their own damn fault...oh, that goes for all you other sophisticated investors

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:18 | 1920879 Widowmaker
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Rule of law, or laws of rule?

... with justice abortions in kangaroo-kourt for everyone "else."

 

Judge, I like your robe.

"Thanks, it's just for show."

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 13:52 | 1921507 El Viejo
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Some day this wll be known as the age of the enlightenment of the naive.

http://www.marketskeptics.com/2011/11/the-article-newsweek-gutted-proof-of-fbi-corruption.html

 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:20 | 1920899 High Plains Drifter
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that judge allowed them to continue business after they filed a bankruptcy petition?  this man is on the take, no doubt about it........another bit of insanity......

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:31 | 1920932 Lost Wages
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Yep, this judge got a big old bribe that I could have never matched during my own Chapter 7 case.

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 17:49 | 1922953 rocker
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Don't forget the Supreme Court. The court has ruled that : 

 Our Constitution is now For and By the Corportions and Bankster Cartel of Wall Street and the Manipulated HFT Markets.

Main contributors: Goldman Sachs and J P Morgan.

Our Liberty and Freedoms no longer are allowed by the Patriot Act and passage of Homeland Security under Bush & Co.

Ratified by Bambi & Co.

Our Economy is now Worse than Japan Now.  First Declining Decade, check. Second Declining Decade, in progress.

Zhombie Banks will be Fed by Taxpayers throught the banking Cartel called the FED.

FED: a none Federal Agency ruled by Thieves and Gangsters. 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:31 | 1920913 Widowmaker
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Judge Glenn justice -- just another financial derivative.

Heads the kourt wins, tails you lose.

 

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:14 | 1920877 mossme89
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Why is it illegal for people to rob banks but legal for the banks to rob the people?

Mon, 11/28/2011 - 11:20 | 1920898 Leopold B. Scotch
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It's good for the economy.  Now shut up, will you?

 

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