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Neoconservatives Planned Regime Change Throughout the Middle East and North Africa 20 Years Ago
I've repeatedly documented that the Neocons planned regime change in Iraq, Libya, Iran, Syria and a host of other countries right after 9/11 ... if not before.
And that Obama is implementing these same plans - just with a "kindler, gentler" face.
Glenn Greenwald provides further documentation that the various Middle Eastern and North African wars were planned before 9/11:
General Wesley Clark ... said the aim of this plot [to "destroy the governments in ... Iraq, ... Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran”] was this: “They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.” He then recounted a conversation he had had ten years earlier with Paul Wolfowitz — back in 1991 — in which the then-number-3-Pentagon-official, after criticizing Bush 41 for not toppling Saddam, told Clark: “But one thing we did learn [from the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region – in the Middle East – and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet regimes – Syria, Iran [sic], Iraq – before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.” Clark said he was shocked by Wolfowitz’s desires because, as Clark put it: “the purpose of the military is to start wars and change governments? It’s not to deter conflicts?”
[I]n the aftermath of military-caused regime change in Iraq and Libya ... with concerted regime change efforts now underway aimed at Syria and Iran, with active and escalating proxy fighting in Somalia, with a modest military deployment to South Sudan, and the active use of drones in six — count ‘em: six — different Muslim countries, it is worth asking whether the neocon dream as laid out by Clark is dead or is being actively pursued and fulfilled, albeit with means more subtle and multilateral than full-on military invasions (it’s worth remembering that neocons specialized in dressing up their wars in humanitarian packaging: Saddam’s rape rooms! Gassed his own people!). As Jonathan Schwarz ... put it about the supposedly contentious national security factions:
As far as I can tell, there’s barely any difference in goals within the foreign policy establishment. They just disagree on the best methods to achieve the goals. My guess is that everyone agrees we have to continue defending the mideast from outside interference (I love that Hillary line), and the [Democrats] just think that best path is four overt wars and three covert actions, while the neocons want to jump straight to seven wars.
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The neocon end as Clark reported them — regime change in those seven countries — seems as vibrant as ever. It’s just striking to listen to Clark describe those 7 countries in which the neocons plotted to have regime change back in 2001, and then compare that to what the U.S. Government did and continues to do since then with regard to those precise countries.
Note: The so-called "war on terror" has also weakened our national security and created many more terrorists than it has killed, imprisoned or otherwise stopped. It is also destroying our economy.
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So Pubama and Hillary are neocons?
To Hell with the cut and paste, George. Just tell us what you are smoking.
so now the neolibs and the vast left wing conspiracy is winning the race to destroy liberty in the name of dumb-ocracy
so now the neolibs and the vast left wing conspiracy is winning the race to destroy liberty in the name of dumb-ocracy
Uhhhmmmm i didn't know OBAMA was a Neocon (come on man)...
The world of Nineteen Eighty-Four is built around a never-ending war involving the book's three superstates, with two allied powers fighting against the third. But as Goldstein's book explains, each superstate is so strong it cannot be defeated even when faced with the combined forces of the other two powers. The allied states occasionally split with each other and new alliances are formed. Each time this happens, history is rewritten to convince the people that the new alliances were always there, using the principles of doublethink. The war itself never takes place in the territories of the three powers; the actual fighting is conducted in the disputed zone stretching from Morocco to Australia, and in the unpopulated Arctic wastes. Throughout the first half of the novel, Oceania is allied with Eastasia, and Oceania's forces are combating Eurasia's troops in northern Africa.
Midway through the book, the alliance breaks apart and Oceania, newly allied with Eurasia, begins a campaign against Eastasian forces. This happens during "Hate Week" (a week of extreme focus on the evilness of Oceania's enemies, the purpose of which is to stir up patriotic fervor in support of the Party), Oceania and Eastasia are enemies once again. The public is quite abnormally blind to the change, and when a public orator, mid-sentence, changes the name of the enemy from Eurasia to Eastasia (still speaking as if nothing had changed), the people are shocked as they notice all the flags and banners are wrong (they blame Goldstein and the Brotherhood) and tear them down. This is the origin of the idiom, "we've always been at war with Eastasia." Later on, the Party claims to have captured India. As with all other news, its authenticity is questionable.
Goldstein's book explains that the war is unwinnable, and that its only purpose is to use up human labor and the fruits of human labor so that each superstate's economy cannot support an equal (and high) standard of living for every citizen. The book also details an Oceanian strategy to attack enemy cities with atomic-tipped rocket bombs prior to a full-scale invasion, but quickly dismisses this plan as both infeasible and contrary to the purpose of the war.
forget the label neocon and call them the globalist banksters, for what they really are.
calling them "globalist banksters" limits the mind to financial shenanigans and ignores the use of "nationstates" to herd the peoples into defensive invisible boundary stories - like competitive sports & all the HooHaa that accompanies them, including the "rioting" when a team loses - at ZH the bankster story resonates, but the majority who aren't aware or interested will here anything named for the "financial" classes as beyond their ability / desire to comprehend, or even investigate.
although I don't really believe in "hope" - if one wants to hope for more to wake up, the story needs to be broad enough that it can be grasped, at least at the corners & edges. . .
I think you are a bit too narrow in your classification. I perfer the slightly more broad "Globalists" label.
The people we are talking about is comprised of members of the world's ruling class. This includes politicians, hedge fund managers, bankers and captains of industry. They all want to collapse the status quo in favor of even greater power and wealth.
Some might say Beelzebub uses them like sock puppets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPjxeyG-Ztw
Sounds like tons of fun!
god i love you george!!!
it is also interesting to note that obama had been selected as a future president c. 1990/91.
you could read about the neocon imperialism in the pages of commentary beginning in the 1970s but intensifying in the 80s and 90s....i am surprised someone hasn't trotted out edward lutwak for a last hurrah on imperial aggression but he fucked up with the cheap and innumerable weapons strategy....
brezenski also wrote a mainsttream book on the subject of regime change a few years ago....the neocons knocked off cyrus vance to put brezenski in state in the carter years....
the velvet touch is the 1000s of military bases the usa has all over the world....obama is buttboy for the rockefeller-yale-cia-neocon-masters-of-the-universe psycopath department.....
but alas, judgment day shall clarify the real losers and winners....the lord's plan must continue with his vile and wicked servants accomplishing their foul goals....
Thanks to the US Govt's massive spending and trampling of natural rights, you know I agree with you people about much that is discussed herein, but when you trample on the transcendant by denegrating the "resurrection" and the rapture etc as just the hopium of the people, don't forget that your founding fathers who gave their lives and fortunes so you could be free to speak, believed these things. As stupid as the church sounds to some, sometimes, maybe all the time, there is a collective wisdom in their viewpoint that can't be gainsaid.
with respect, the "collective wisdom" of all sky god churches always teach that living as a human on earth is not as "rewarding" as being with your "heavenly fathers" - so no amount of reverence is allocated for the present moments, the goal being "death" and "resurrection."
the earth and the inhabitants cannot be held as sacred as long as the end goal is always death.
The objective of Commerce is always conquest. We are watching the corporate consolidation of the world. The same military supervised slavery is coming to the United States.
http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/
Syria : Russia is sending an aircraft carrier...
Lebanon : Has been taking over by Hezbollah...
Somalia : Has been bombed by drones. Special forces operations have taken place there.
Sudan : Divided into two countries.
Iran : Once Syria is attacked, Iran will call for a fight.
That's right.
The strategy paper for it is called "Project for a new American Century".
They even have their own website.
http://www.newamericancentury.org
WAKE UP AMERICA!
http://www.infowars.com/senate-moves-to-allow-military-to-intern-americans-without-trial/
We must vote these guys out! Not only were the neocons planning war years ago, the "Patriot Act" was actually sitting in a desk drawer, ready-to-go. Did it not seem strange that 20 pounds of paper outlining the Act suddenly appeared, complete, within weeks of 9-11? You'd think comprehensive legislation would take months to draw up. The Neocons were ready, waiting to pounce on the American people! The "DHS" was invented to control Americans, not rout out 'terrorists!' This next election may be our last, unless it is already too late!
I'm sure if you think about it, you'll realise "we" are past the "voting" stage - by a good few decades and more - as at least the past half dozen "elections" have proved.
and sorry, but if you truly believe those in governance are fully corrupt, voting will not resolve this either - no ONE is going to "save" the amrkn world, it's history - act accordingly!
thinking in terms of "voting' plays right in to their hands - they set up the false paradigm, they own the Diebold electronic polling booths, they own the televised reporting of results, they own the politicians selected. and no ONE can change this, no ONE is powerful enough - the "one MAN can save us!!" meme needs to be seen for what it is - a placating fairy tale.
always thought that was the most obvious and amazing 911 phenomenon
Let's see if we can't ID some of these neocon types in here.
Spot the Neocon. Go!
Do I qualifiy because I loathe the Democrat's basketball playing muslim?
I support Ron Paul's foreign policy. No aid money and no conquest. Drill in the US and let the muslim eat their oil. Let Israel and the scummy Saudis deal with Iran. I am tired of our kids dying for the Saudis and Israel.
If We The People can win this, we'll need to know who they are for the new Nuremberg Trials!
First, you have to get rid of the Federal .gov. Don't waste your time trying to pin blame on individuals yet.
There'll be plenty of time for trials later when we have access to all the files they are keeping secret, for "national security" (ie. their security) reasons, of course.
In WWII, Hitler and his generals had to be removed before any trials could be planned.
Nuremberg was a show trial meant to divert attention from the allies own war crimes and enshrine the holocau$$$$t into place. The Nazis were tortured and blackmailed into false confessions. The Pearl Harbor attack was instigated by the Roosevelt administration. Both the British and the US had broken the Japanese code and knew when and where they would attack. Roosevelt and Marshall let 2,500 men die so we'd have a reason to enter the war. Read "Day of Deceit".
We need a real trial this time of all the guilty parties right down to the planners and financiers of this phony 'war on terror'.
"Day of Deceit".
That's an excellent book.
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I am a Canadian but I really hope you guys can take your country back peacefully. The US Constitution is one of the most important documents ever penned.
as president George W Numbnuts the 2nd pointed out, "it's just a goddamn piece of paper".
Completely true, that.
It's up to each succeeding American generation to either admire "the sacred document" or to blandly salute "the sacred document" because "these Truths" may be self-evident but they are not "self-fullfilling".
and history IS written by the victors...
The Rowdy's won back then but Imagine an English win...
The American revolution would have been a tree, falling in the woods, no sound, no "shot heard round the world", no shining city on the hill" or "last best hope of humankind".
Just Business... as usual.
The way I see it, a stealth contest was waged in the People's intervening abscence and the People lost. There are new victors in place and history is in the process of being re-written.
I'm an American and though I'm proud of that fact, I can't shake the feeling that I'm on a list that exists somewhere in my "homeland".
And where did that Bushy quotation come from, except out of your ass? Childish lies, and hissy fits do not become you.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Russia_to_send_warships_to_Syria_in_2012...
Russia to send warships to Syria in 2012: report
Wolfowitz...enough said. Whether D or R, their agenda is the same, total world domination. Order out of chaos in which a few control the many. It's the most open conspiracy in history and yet so many are so blind to it. Get ready for the meat wagons, they're coming.
Hello. Are there any neocons here? Identify yourself.
I was once a neocon but then I woke up and got better.
"Neocon" is a broad label GW and like-minded statists use. From the article, apparently GW believes Barry is one of "their" puppets. But we never know because the label is never really defined.
here, let me help - "neo" = "new" "con" = "conservative" (in current parlance, the Repub team)
so, "neo-con" is a name adopted by the likes of PNAC to differentiate themselves as more dedicated to the neo-colonising of the world by those who create wars in order to gain resources & territory.
I know I'm being facetious here, perhaps you were as well?
and you don't? maybe you'd like to define "like-minded statists" for the game?
...btw, if you can't differentiate conservatives from "the Repub team," you need to pay more attention.
I defer to Mark Levin's Liberty and Tyranny for a full description of the actions that a statist values and pursues.
You see, a label is just that. What defines ideology is actions - not even one's statements count, really, because of political rhetoric and duplicity. So when you say "a name adopted by," you are referring to a label.
Someone whose actions are conservative is someone who first and foremost supports maximal self-direction of the fruits of one's labor, constrained only by the need to not infringe on others' capacity to do the same.
When you attach "neo" or some other ginned-up tag in order to serve some agenda (often of blame), you warp the whole discussion and disallow anything positive to be ascribed to any component of the label. That's why "liberal" is such a polarizing word, even though classic liberalism actually refers to a conservative set of principles.
GW is polarizing with his labels, and I suspect he is hardly aware of it because he is a magnet for like-minded folks. I was just repeating what he said - that OBama is carrying out what he labels "the neocon agenda." Those are his sentiments, not mine. I did that to point out how silly the whole labeling issue is. Barry a neocon - no one would buy that, right? But look at his actions in the context of YOUR OWN definition and, well, if the shoe fits...
Carry on, my buzzardly friend.
Yes, all of those countries had non-hofjuden central banks. Only Iran and Syria is left now; and their gold bullion.
Wolfowitz? I seem to remember a screaming and crying babbling coward with a towel around his head running down the steps on a hotel in Bagdad with brown stuff and urine steaming from his bodily functions, just because of a few little shells hitting the floor where his room had been...
Victory was "his". And then?
These "neocons" are just "campfollowers" who can't even maturbate!
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com/2011/02/recursive-game-is-policy.html
http://verbewarp.blogspot.com/2011/03/operation-death-star-australis.html
Mesage to these "neocons": Foxtrot Uniform!
You silly people kill me. Of course this was the plan. Do you really think we would allow Arabs to have their own oil? Please... we would no more allow that than we would allow Native Americans have their land and resources. They are such children that can not be trusted to do the right thing with their property, just as the citizens of the World can not be trusted with their own money.
Now pass me that missile key.
I am The Chief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FDlZUeHDkY
It all makes sense..
In a perverted, government control and oppression sort of way.
“The policeman isn't there to create disorder; the policeman is there to preserve disorder"
Richard J. Daley,
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/r/richardjd111632.html
I disagree, it's not going to plan for the USA, IMHO they're bricking it because it's all up in the air. they never planned this level of uprising and their normal tools and reaction is either carpet bomb the bribable with cash, or carpet bomb democracy bombs, their first option is worthless their second will bring them into direct confrontation with the USSR ( yes I'm being ironic) and China..What we're watching is the crumbling of an empire so they'll have to step up the threats and theft to defcon 5 or perish. One things for sure they'll go to any lengths to protect their way of life and their system..
Yes, this has been and is "the plan". It was crafted by PNAC (Project for a New American Century). This thinktank has changed its name since being discovered. William Kristol is one of the leaders, along with Wolfowitz. They are a disgusting group of neocons....but even moreso, they are closet NEW WORLD ORDER GLOBALISTS! They intend to get rid of any dictatorship who is not cooperative with their global government plan. Of course, oil and war profits are also involved, but it is primarily about "order out of chaos"...a NEW order....a GLOBAL one....run by the banksters and their puppet politicians.
Two great books:
Moral obediance is the greatest enemy of Tavistock and all that it represents.
The desire to conflict Islam with Christianity and Orthodox Judaism is the desire
to foster a fistfight between dancers about the clothing they wear.
The process of mind control by controlling the viewing aperature into the collective mind
is the strength of these liars. Too bad for them the collective mind has
resurection of the dead and judgement day included within it.
Talk about willful ignorance and mind control. Tavistock is it's own worst enemy
and shall fall to it's own devices.
I certainly hope you are right about your last sentence! However, I am not holding my breath...
I don't see the moral obedience in too many places these days. And when the zombie masses finally do wake up to what has been done to them, it might be too late to resist. There IS a point of no return...Have we reached it yet? That is anybody's guess.
They have plans for the United States too. What do you think those are?
The US is the driving force and largest weapon used in "taking down" the rest of the world....when that is finished, then they will implode the US and put it under the neo-feudalist fascist global dictatorship. In other words, the US is the soldier who will be shot after he has served his purpose. Nice, huh?
You can download Coleman's book as a full pdf here:
http://www.4shared.com/get/HqXAnh-O/JOHN_COLEMAN_-_THE_TAVISTOCK_I.html