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No One Is Buying Iranian Terror Allegations
The day before Attorney General was subpoenaed about what he knew about the Department of Justice and Drug Enforcement Agency's "Fast and Furious" operation to get weapons to Mexico's largest drug cartel, the U.S. government announced that the Iranians planned to kill a Saudi ambassador on U.S. soil.
And they said - you guessed it - that it was DOJ and DEA who broke up the plot.
But no one is buying it ... not even the pro-war mainstream media.
The New York Times notes in a post entitled "U.S. Challenged to Explain Accusations of Iran Plot in the Face of Skepticism":
The Obama administration on Wednesday sought to reconcile what it said was solid evidence of an Iranian plot to murder Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States with a wave of puzzlement and skepticism from some foreign leaders and outside experts.
Senior American officials themselves were struggling to explain why the Quds Force, an elite international operations unit within Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, would orchestrate such a risky attack in so amateurish a manner.
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American officials offered no specific evidence linking the plot to Iran’s most senior leaders.
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Mr. Zarate and senior American officials said the assassination plan did not have the hallmarks of a Quds operation. “It was very extreme and very odd, but it was also very sloppy,” Mr. Zarate said. “If you look at what they have done historically, they can put operatives on their targets and execute. They usually don’t outsource, but keep things inside a trusted network.”
One problem for President Obama and his administration is that since American intelligence claims about Iraq’s illicit weapons proved false in 2003, assertions by the United States about its adversaries have routinely faced skepticism from other countries.
“Of course, that is in people’s heads. Everyone is extremely skeptical about U.S. intelligence revelations,” said Volker Perthes, an Iran expert who is the director of the German Institute for International and Security Affairs in Berlin.
CNN notes the growing skepticism about the allegations.
Retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer says that an FBI insider told him the dubious terror plot to assassinate a Saudi ambassador which has been blamed on Iran was likely manufactured by the Obama administration, because no information about the plot even exists within FBI channels:
Glenn Greenwald writes:
The most difficult challenge in writing about the Iranian Terror Plot unveiled yesterday is to take it seriously enough to analyze it.
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For brazen irony, how can this be beat?
Tom Kean, former chairman of the 9/11 Commission said the alleged plot “surprises me.” Speaking to CNN’s Erin Burnett, Kean said the plot is “pretty close to an act of war. You don’t go in somebody’s capital to blow somebody up.”
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So facially absurd are the claims here — why would Iran possibly wake up one day and decide that it wanted to engage in a Terrorist attack on U.S. soil when it could much more easily kill Saudi officials elsewhere? and if Iran and its Quds Force are really behind this inept, hapless, laughable plot, then nothing negates the claim that Iran is some Grave Threat like this does — that there is more skepticism expressed even in establishment media accounts than one normally finds about such things. Even the NYT noted — with great understatement — that the allegations “provoked puzzlement from specialists on Iran, who said it seemed unlikely that the government would back a brazen murder and bombing plan on American soil.” The Post noted that “the very rashness of the alleged assassination plot raised doubts about whether Iran’s normally cautious ruling clerics supported or even know about it.” The Atlantic‘s Max Fisher has more on why this would be so out of character for Iran.
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The Christian Science Monitor details the many reasons why “Iran specialists who have followed the Islamic Republic for years say that many details in the alleged plot just don’t add up.”
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After 24 hours of media hysteria — there’s this Reuters article, which — under the headline “Officials concede gaps in U.S. knowledge of Iran plot” — reports:
Iran’s supreme leader and the shadowy Quds Force covert operations unit were likely aware of an alleged plot to kill Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States, but hard evidence of that is scant, U.S. officials said on Wednesday.
The United States does not have solid information about “exactly how high it goes,” one official said. . . .The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said their confidence that at least some Iranian leaders were aware of the alleged plot was based largely on analyses and their understanding of how the Quds Force operates.
Greenwald notes in a separate post:
Here is a profile of the Lex Luthor super-villain behind the dastardly Iranian Plot, compiled based on interviews with those who have long known him. He’s described variously as a “scatterbrained, hapless businessman,” “absentminded and shifty.” “a joke” who “was pretty disorganized, always losing things like keys, titles, probably a thousand cellphones,” who “never spoke ill of the United States” and who wasn’t remotely religious — in other words, the pefect target for the FBI to transform into an “operative” by waving money and glory in front of his face, and exactly the kind of person the actual Quds Force would never use for a real plot.
Steve Watson notes that the suspect is a semi-retarded sex-crazed druggie:
Local media in Austin and San Antonio spoke to several of Arbabsiar’s acquaintances in Round Rock and Corpus Christi, who described him in most unflattering terms, saying that they doubt Arbabsiar could have had any meaningful involvement in the supposed international ploy.
“He used to drink, smoke pot, go with the prostitutes,” Tom Hosseini, an Iranian who has known Arbabsiar since college, told reporters, adding “His first wife left him because he would lose his keys every other day. This guy is not a mastermind.”
Hosseini also told reporters that in college Arbabsiar earned the nickname ‘”Jack” for his affinity for whisky, confirming that he wasn’t in any way religious and that “he couldn’t even pray, doesn’t know how to fast.”
Describing Arbabsiar as rude, offensive and unfriendly, others noted that he was a “floundering” businessman who at various points had tried his hand in running a restaurant, a convenience store and a used car lot.
“He was pretty disorganised, always losing things like keys, titles, probably a thousand cell phones,” David Tomscha, who ran the small used-car yard with him, said. “He wasn’t meticulous with taking care of things.”
“He never spoke ill of the United States,” Mr Tomscha added. “I always thought he liked it here, because he could make money. He loved to make money.”
Arbabsiar, who has a history of run ins with the law and minor criminal offences, was described in other accounts as having a preoccupation with traveling to Iran in order to procure the services of cheap Persian prostitutes.
Another local acquaintance, Mitch Hamueen, scoffed at the DOJ suggestion that “Chevrolet” was a code word for the alleged terror operation.
“He probably wasn’t talking in code, he was probably talking about an actual Chevrolet,” he said.
“He’s the fall guy,” Hamueen said. “They’re looking for a fall guy.”
Reporters also spoke with Arbabsiar’s apparently estranged wife who told them “I know that his innocence is going to come out.”
The Obama administration contends that Arbabsiar tried to hire assassins from a Mexican drug gang to carry out the murder of ambassador Adel al-Jubeir during a visit to the United States.
However, the head of the drug gang turned out to be a DEA agent posing as a Mexican Los Zetas gangster. The story has all the hallmarks of classic FBI entrapment tactics that have characterized almost every major terror bust in recent times.
Indeed, a study published this year by the New York University School of Law found that the threat of homegrown terror in America has been “manufactured” by entrapping Muslim men into crimes they otherwise would not commit. And see this.
And Pepe Esobar writes:
As for the Washington mantra that "Iran has been insinuating itself into many of the struggles in the Middle East", that's undiluted Saudi propaganda. In fact it's the House of Saud who's been conducting the fierce counter-revolution that has smashed any possibility of an Arab Spring in the Persian Gulf - from the invasion and repression of Bahrain to the rash pre-emption of protests inside Saudi Arabia's Shia-dominated eastern provinces.
The whole thing smells like a flimsy pretext for a casus belli. The timing of the announcement couldn't be more suspicious. White House national security advisor Thomas E. Donilon briefed King Abdullah of the plot no less than two weeks ago, in a three-hour meeting in Riyadh. Meanwhile the US government has been carrying not plots, but targeted assassinations of US citizens, as in the Anwar al-Awlaki case.
So why now? Holder is caught in yet another scandal - on whether he told lies regarding Operation Fast and Furious (no, you can't make this stuff up), a federal gun sting through which scores of US weapons ended up in the hands of - here they come again - Mexican drug cartels.
So how to bury Fast and Furious, the economic abyss, the 10 years of war in Afghanistan, the increasing allure of Occupy Wall Street - not to mention the Saudi role in smashing the spirit of the Arab Spring? By uncovering a good ol' al-Qaeda style plot on US soil, on top of it conducted by "evil" Iran. Al-Qaeda and Tehran sharing top billing; not even Cheney and Rumsfeld in their heyday could come up with something like this. Long live GWOT (the global war on terror). And long live the neo-con spirit ....
Escobar says that the government keeps changing its story about the plot:
Of course, the decision to go to war against Iran (like most of our current policy) was made before 9/11 (and see this).
The Brookings Institution wrote in 2009:
It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.
Indeed, the U.S. has used fake intelligence to attempt to frame Iran.
And it is well-documented that the U.S. has repeatedly used terrorism against Iran:
- The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950?s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected president
- Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh says that the Bush administration (and especially Dick Cheney) helped to fund groups which the U.S. claims are terrorists against Iran (see confirming articles here and here).
- The New York Times, Washington Post, Raw Story and others are reporting that former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, former national security adviser Fran Townsend and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey – who all said that the terrorists were going to get us if we didn’t jettison the liberties granted under the Bill of Rights – are now supporting terrorists in Iran.
- Jimmy Carter’s former National Security Adviser and Obama’s initial foreign policy adviser - Zbigniew Brzezinski - told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.
- Congressman Ron Paul told Congress: “I am concerned, however, that a contrived Gulf of Tonkin- type incident may occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran”
- And a member of the British Parliament stated that “there is a very real danger” that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran and to gain complete control domestically
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They ignore the WAR being waged on their own soil in order to attack bogey men, who are actually rather moral people. If one listens to the producers of popular music and other forms of entertainment, then one easily finds the true enemy: the perversion of sexual energy, the creative force of the universe, to wanton destruction.
Okeeday. Energy is noise, undirected noise is wasted energy. Tons of wasted heat = cheap energy. Don't forget the root of the word Troika: Thesis - (Synthesizing) - Anti-Thesis
Dr. Paul is our only chance to put a stop to this nonsense.
Yeah. And if he got in to a position of power with MS-13, he could turn them in to a fun loving bunch of homies too. Presidents are just mafia figure heads. Programmed evil puppets for big money.
Government = Force
No man of principle could ever even step foot on a US Presidential debate stage. Even the good doctor is participating in an illigitimate congress that is really a board of directors of a corporation pretending to be the republic it usurped.
Comity comes before polity; a community of violent people will produce a violent government.
The Saudis have money in all US TV networks. Al Waleed - house of Saud calls more of the shots at News Corp then people know. He told Murdoch to fire the Rebecca woman at News of the World. The Saudis are much closer to Israel then both let on. I do not like Iran at all but Pepe Escobar nails it. Sad that we have to watch web news from Russia to get the truth. Anyone who watches US TV is a sheep.
Saudi pederasty/paedophilia needs to be exposed. The family is of primary importance in Islam, as in all religions that sanctify life, including Judaism. Bring the perversion of the 'Royals' to light, and they will lose their heads much quicker than our bankers get ass-raped.
He's not the youngest of candidates. I would suspect he could bring about seven years of peace.
Gary Johnson too in case something happens to RP, else we'd have no dog in the race.
a older version of hpd on the westside, voicing his opinions on 911 at a meeting of neocon talk show hosts and their sycophants , somewhere in LA.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2-qqlykqM&feature=player_embedded
Michael Scheuer has a good take on this nonsense on Judge:
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1217329560001/department-of-injustice/
guys like micheal scheuer will be responsable for WW3 the same way all the people that didnt take hitler seriously are resposable for the hauloucost and WW2
Spitz, go back to your Jewish whore. Sing duets.
Yeah, who was it that said<
"It is impossible to understand history without an understading of economics. Such an understanding is discouraged, lest the prevailing myths are dispelled, and men such as Hitler gain credit for their attempts to right the crowning wrong of our age."
Hmm. Islam prohibits the practice of usury. Could it... possibly? Be the reason it is so disliked?
let me enlight you with some zionist fairytales
1914, 1939 most recently Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, Libya, Somalia and the last on the list Siria and Iran are next
PS who the fork was the founder of CIA ? Reinhard Gehlen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen
What are the simbols on the walls in Congress ?
2 Fascia 1 on the left 1 on the right of the speaker's chair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_symbolism
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0eDBgsh8Rn3Xe?__site=daylife&q=U.S.+Congress
only half in picture but if someone is interested try and look for a better one
So why is evryone so suprised about those things ? is usuall business for them
get over it LOL
flea bitten range bums usually don't stop here in lago. life is a little too quick for 'em........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sNeozweTM
Not only will they buy it...THEY ARE! I've sold over 15,000 "Mullahs=Moolah" coffee mugs ever since this story broke! Thank YOU CIA!
GW: Great job in exposing the total fabrication of this false flag op. Let's hope and pray that Iran is not attacked because of this new Gulf of Tonkin concoction. Otherwise, we are looking at WWIII and a lot of innocent people dying. Time is very short on this fuse. Two to three weeks tops.
Jeez, at least 9/11 had a certain evil grandeur to it; Bush and Cheney knew how to do these things. THIS IS PATHETIC! Best part is about the "Chevrolet"....imagine, a used car salesman using the word "Chevrolet".
erin burnett is unmitigated bore................her show stinks...........
but she's been putting in hours at the gym!
Watch it with the sound off if Dr.Who's not on. She's got nice tits.
Saudi money helped get Hussein elected. It is all through every US TV network and also us corps like citicrap, Disney, Apple et al with Al Waleed who is really a front man for the House of Saud and the King. Saudis were also bankrolling Huff Po against Hillary.
This fake story serves so many purposes.
1. Makes Obama & Holder look good while Holder is being supenoaed. Just like Bin Laden's fake "death."
2. Makes the Saudis look like our friends and victims plus demonizes Iran. Obama throws Islam and the Saudis a bone like the SEALS being sitting ducks and shot down. A gift to Islam.
The Sunni House of Saud is making feces uder their robes because the Iranian Shia are on a roll or really Shia is on a roll. The Saudis are pretty much surrounded. Sadly most Americans have no clue about the 1200 year old or so vicious battle between Sunni and Shia.
Babaar is a terrorist? WHAT WILL I TELL THE CHILDREN?!!!
Don't worry, if this $hit won't stick, they'll Houston come up with another "crisis" in another couple of weeks. For example, I'be heard 3 democratic politicians "suggest" the suspension of elections in order to "focus" on the economy. These "suggestions" are trial balloons to gauge public reaction, and to prepare the public for the Hugo Chavez coup move of election suspension.
The internal polling data must be really bad for them to be pulling this crap this early in the election cycle.
Wouldn't it be great if the propaganda stopped working? As in became ineffective??
Anyone that does not believe this country is a Banana Republic please stand up.
How dare you sir impinge the reputation of banana republics everywhere! sarc off
Standing up, for your post.....and this site. Not a banana republic.
Try making a difference...or picking bananas.
Pepe Escobar is the Tyler Durden of Geopolitics..........his column is a must read @atimes,com
pepe escobar is the tyler durden of geopolitics,... absolutely - a dynamic dual to the nth degree
ps. there's more -
before we leave afghanistan it is imperative the false flag goes up - our airbase in kandahar has strategic, geographic importance for hitting iran's eastern porous border 'flank', and with pakistans cooperation, hitting iran on the southern coast for a clean sweep with the saudi's backing us up on the west with the batteries of missiles sold for their pleasurable discretion, whatever that be,... ? jmo
thankyou gw
Not saying anything about Pepe except this: I liked the interview. But should he not have picked a label for this lie about Iran other than "Fast and Furious", the name of the FUBAR USA gun-running for murderous Mexican felons?
Dude he's drawing attention to the inter-play. Why, when the alledged perp was detained last month, did they annouce this freak-show now? Holder needed noise to cover his indictments. He's being sued by a group of Az. sheriffs over Fast and Furious. Plus, Daryl Issa's on his case.
Where's that PintoCurrency guy who keeps posting the link to Hillary's involvement. Appearently, she + her staff wanted to boost the percentage of guns seized in Mexico that originated in the US. Appearently, Hillary doesn't like the 2nd amendment. Appearently, she's going into retirement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfsWIoO2CPc&feature=player_embedded
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http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/breaking-new-evidence-show-hillary-a-mastermind-behind-gunwalker?CID=examiner_alerts_article
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http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/10/darrell-issa-subpoenas-eric-holder-for-fast-and-furious-communications/
yeah...he's damn good.
Pakistan is now also being developed as an alternative for a new war just in case the US public is actually, for once, smart enough to see through this Iran trial balloon. The Military Industrial complex has to have a strategic plan for where the next billions are going to come from.
Mayor Bloomberg Kills Off Occupy Wall Street at 7am on Friday Morning!!!
The Young Turk host Cenk Uygur explains how a park cleanup effort and new rules supported by New York City Mayor Bloomberg are designed to stop the Occupy Wall Street movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqnf6U8NZmQ
The OWS-ers were out en force this afternoon and eve with brooms, mops, shovels cleaning the park themselves so there was no need for the city janitors. Heck, they were shining the stone steps with rags and Trewax...the plot thickens. What oh what to do if you are the mayor and the people are breaking no laws. tsk tsk what a predicament.
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted--and you create a nation of law-breakers--and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with. -- Dr. Floyd Ferris, "Atlas Shrugged"
did he mention that Mayor Bloombergs girlfriend (sorry...but that's a cover, that man is queer as a three dollar bill...but I digress)...is on the board of directors of Brookfield Office Properties, the company that owns Liberty Park?
But I'm sure that just a coincidence.
bloomberg is a fag? why am i not surprised. seems the last major was too.........
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
arent you a sexxy mofo!
I agree.
http://www.firinglineoklahoma.com/featureditem.html
did you say sexy? now that is sexy. and very utilitarian as well......i hate that we can't have sbr's in texas for some stupid reason.........
I can safely confirm Iran is behind the plot. I even saw Diane Feinstine on th news today and she was breifed by the Cia, Fbi, etc. etc. and she said it is the real deal. So I am sticking with the trustworthy politicians on this one.
Cliff, you are kidding, right? Or drunk? I mean, c'mon, Dianne, my ex-mayor? Queen of all military spending Zionist scumbag Senators?
I heard with my own ears on the TeeVee, they wouldn't lie to us would they?
I fail to see why anyone has doubts about Iranian intentions. Regional hegemony has been Persian foriegn policy since......forever. To doubt that it continues to be is simply willful ignorance.
But have no fear....when the mushroom cloud rises over Tel-Aviv GW will be the first to rush a post about how its all Bush's fault. This is becoming tiresome.
You get to join the moronic fuckwit tool club. Yeah, the mushrooom cloud over Tel Aviv, while long overdue, will be detonated by the Zionist assholes who are behind all of this nonsense in the first place. Remove Israel, and you remove all chances of a world war forever.
Get a clue. This is more a Shia (Iran) versus Sunni (Saudi) war going on for 1200 years. Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies. To a lesser extent it is Persian versus Arab but it is more a battle over Islam. Think northern Ireland on steroids.