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Nuclear Expert: Radioactive Rain-Outs Will Continue For a Year - Even In Western U.S. and Canada
Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen says in a new interview that the Japanese are burning radioactive materials. The radioactivity originated from Fukushima, but various prefectures are burning radioactive materials in their terroritories.
Gundersen says that this radioactivity ends up not only in neighboring prefectures, but in Hawaii, British Columbia, Oregon, Washington and California.
He notes that radioactive rain-outs were documented recently in British Columbia and Oklahoma with geiger counters.
Gundersen is working with scientists who will publish a paper soon definitively debunking the Canadian and American health officials claims that only harmless levels of radiation are being released.
Gundersen has a high-level contact in the State Department who says that the U.S. government has decided - within various agencies, including the State Department, FDA, and other agencies - to downplay the dangers from Fukushima. Because of this policy decision, the government is not really testing for radiation.
Gundersen says that well see another year of radioactive rain-outs, as the Japanese continue to burn radioactive materials.
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here , just south of philly pa., with the heavy rains yesterday came higher radiation levels
and my accumulated dosimeter shows over a sievert since march 25th when i got it
Either your dosimeter is wrong, or it's time to make arrangements and start digging. You're dead or sick if it's telling the truth. MilliSievert I'd believe if you slept with uranium ore or something.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieverts
That's really high. What kind of reading did you get when it rained?
Are you sure you're reading the scale right? That is way too high.
yes, but i would not feel so all alone/
everybody must get stoned/
well, they'll stone ya when you're tryin to be so good/
they'll stone ya just like ya knew they would/
they'll stone ya when you're tryin to go home/
and they'll stone ya when you're there all alone
Something tells me that they are not going to get the melted and scattered nuclear goo contained for quite some time yet and that will take years for the contamination effects to stop.
This is a multigenerational problem, it wont be cleared up in a few years.
It won't be "cleaned up" in time for the next accident.
Exactly... All of these nuclear engineers who are trying to "help" humanity make me sick. I remember a wife of one complaining on talk radio a few months. She was fearful that the "hysteria" from Fukushima would stop development of new reactors. Well too fucking bad bitch. I guess you'll have to get off your lazy ass and find a McJob like everyone else. If we actually had property rights in this country, there wouldn't be much need for government regulation on reactors. The chance of contaminating half a state and compensating for it would make them just a little cost prohibitive.
they happen weekly and Chernobyl was never addressed except for a band-aid.
considering chernobyl still isnt cleaned up ,or even contained completely or permanently, i'd say you are unfortunately 100% correct
There was a news blip that here in the Pennsylvania that rainwater contained high levels of radioactivity. No follow up coverage. I've got KI pills but when should I start and when would I stop exactly?
I've got KI too. But like all medicines, taking it for too long or without significant need can make you ill in and of itself.
Your local reactor melts down and you need to escape the danger zone fast? Take KI until you get well away, and then for two weeks afterwards. Amongst other measures, like face masks and a dust-proof coverall. Tyvek's good.
For Fukushima's effects in Pennsylvania? Not worth taking the KI, even though the cancer risk is rising. Horrible but true.
35% rise in infant death rates in philly area since march 11th
nothing KI will do for that
but is it time to crack skulls and eat the goo inside?
indeed
that shit was so left field I almost choked to death laughing.. crazyness
I suggest: go to a good supplements/health food store and get "Liqui-Kelp Daily Iodine" or something similar. It's good for your thyroid even if you're not getting irradiated.
We must adapt to and accept that we are now living a post fall out nuclear world. TMI and Chernobyl were only training wheels.
I will order a very special monitor that detects Alpha, Gamma and other radiation... but need a specific suggestion as to what will work in digital form and under 500 dollars. If the Government wont do it, I want to do it. If only for the good of our neighbors who cannot be taking the radiation hits on top of what they are already suffering from effects of war (When home from leave) or medical situations.
buy the gamma-scout geiger counter, it measures alpha, beta and gamma rays. quite interesting to get it on a plane seeing radiation spiking up to 4-6 mikro sieverts per hour, much more than the average 0.2-0.4 on land and also much more than government always tell you about flying exposes you to just 5times the amount than on earth.
the problem i.e. with one partical of plutonium 239 is that is only radiates at roughly 0.01 mikro sieverts per hour, less than the natural environment. if you swallow it however you will die within 6 months with a 100% suceess rate. it is truly mind boggling this stupid technology.
Thank you, I will get on it.
The most poisonous substance ever is plutonium. A single pound is enough to kill everyone on the planet.
Twice over.
A miniscule speck of it is, per scientific consensus, insignificantly safe in terms of how much radiation it emits. Alas, however, breathe it in, and you're a dead man walking.
The typical breeder reactor produces six tons of plutonium each year.
It has a half life of half a million years.
Into my pithy Einstein aphorisms tonight: "A hell of a way to boil water."
Or was that Fermi? Crap. I can quote Sir Walter Raleigh, but not my contemporaries.
Lay some Raleigh on us.
Well, I recall that he once observed about another that that person was "entirely too well dressed to be a gentleman." A comforting sentiment in light of my own wardrobe.
Williamsburg Raliegh? Lay it down hright heah brother.
godzilla 1954
All of this is very logical; what goes up, must come down.
Makes me kind of glad that it hasn't rained here in Texas for months.
I have been through texas during times of dry. It's particularly... trying. Especially when one is used to sticking that 18 wheeler into a field for a while or night's sleep. You cannot do that this summer because your engine will start a fire.
I fell asleep in my truck near El Paso (in a rest area),
The window was rolled down and a Vampire bat came along and had a
nibble, I about shit my pants when I woke up and this thing was on my leg.
By the time I reached N.Hollywood,i had purple streaks running up my leg,
blood poisoning i think, Without anti-biotics it would have most likely killed me,
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
This monitor shows Fukujima @12 CPM so i do not know how much i would rely on it.
JW Approved!
Thank You! for sharing IQ 101 !
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
as for the blood infection...
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That was what I was given when a Brown recluse spider (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bxqI9tu5sE) bit me and I scratched it.. not knowing until it became infected.. my hands swelled to the point where I could not close them.. I am not big on doctors.. but I can understand your pain! on the up side! you must taste good! that is handy information to have if I am ever stranded on an island with you and I get hungry! LOL!!
I worry about Blood Pathogens and infections from bites etc.
However there were times Cold would come up your body towards your heart in the dead of winter in the mountain passes out west while on Chain and Coffee. The last time it happened to me,... I was essentailly writing my last will and testament on the qualcomm as we finally emerged from Esienhower that one winter night. It was cold on the west face and quite wet/snow on the east.
Got to denver and demanded a load... no insisted on either Phoenix or Florida. I got Florida and laid on a beach in 80 degree weather for two days just soaking.
It was awful to others watching a out of shape pale face waddle out onto the sand, all white and pasty with a fucking gut the size of 4 bowling balls. Ugh.
you are smart enough to get to the warm weather.. thats all that counts.. you stay on the beach long enough and you will look like a local in no time.
you have women in bikinis or women in moo moo's? it really is a no brainer! enjoy FL for all it has to offer!
12 month grow season, Bahama's are 50 miles away and all the eye candy you could want to look at.. while keeping yourself out of divorce court! window shopping is so much cheaper! than half of your shit and then half of your income going out the door!
there is NO pussy in the World worth half and then half of your income, NONE!
Holy Fuck u shima Batman...we have been lied to.
Not lied to. Just.... omitted.
It's very damn close to the old Cold War decision making process as to evacuate or not to evacuate. There are books in our Library that detailed washington/Baltimore and Detroit in particular that they never intended to order evac anyway. If the USSR did launch, we would be 30 minutes or less from hell delivered gauranteed. Only a select few would know right away something is up and vanish before the rest of the herd wonders what's up. The first were the NIKE missile battery personel followed by alert managment that disperses with thier Zanax pills to various strong points.
The one fucking thing about the NIKE nuclear defense missiles. When they launch and take out the bombers 100 miles away, the winds would bring the fallout down on the western cities or choke cities further east depending on which way they were launch. To use them meant death for those not in strong shelter by the end of day anyway.
Those beltways were built for a reason in those days. The great cities would be nothing but rubble.
Fast forward to today. I strongly believe that we are experiencing radiation and once I get a monitor, I am going to get the low down on it. I feel that maybe some of it is blocked by the roof but others are getting through.
Radiation will destroy clarity on my implanted lens in the eye. That will be a shame. But oh well. Onwards and upwards.
It's better for the Nation to have a slow purge due to natural casuses affected by a whoops like Fukushima. In time population will drop to managable levels.
I feel like Dr. Strange Love in this post now... that was one hell of a movie. Fail safe was another.
Check out "The Bedford Incident" or "Seven Days in May"
The book On The Beach by Nevil Shute. My parents had a copy laying about, and I picked it up as a 15/16-year-old, having no idea what it was about. When I got about halfway through, and kenned to what was going on, I developed feelings of depression, anxiety, hopelessness, sorrow, and fear that persist to this day.
The only thing that's produced any similar kinda feelings since is The Road, a recent film, and really a tour de force in implied horror. A full on zombie apocalypse movie, nevertheless, there is only a single gunshot on screen. Maybe one or two more off camera. Really weird when one considers just how violent and creepy the movie is. And, an ending that is somehow simultaneously utterly ambiguous, and yet not unsatisfying for that. Sorry to digress.
"would they drop the bomb on us while me made love on the beach?" (always one of my favorite Police songs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbYiLclhkNE
No need to apologize. Whenever I start to think that we might somehow make it through this mess all I have to do is put in my copy of The Road and then I come back to earth.
That movie was most shocking in its utter loneliness and despair. Makes me keep going to get these bastards' system collapsed so we never reach that point.
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'Nuke 'em High'. F'ing awesome.
But seriously, folks... 'The War Game', 1965. Available on YouTube.
A BBC documentary-style depiction of the run up to, and aftermath of a nuclear strike, back when the Russkis only had a 'few' nukes. The BBC board banned it for being too realistic (i.e. communicating the fact that we'd all be screwed).
Wasn't shown for 30 years.
I did work in nuclear business. I did see many people die because the government downplayed the danger.
We scientists knew the danger and took appropriate actions but regular workers and military personnel had to die before some safety measures were implemented.
Chernobyl was a disaster. The Japanese meltdown was/is a catastrophe. Many Japanese will die slowly like it was after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What governments do in cases like this? They observe, collect data, and hide the truth.
In most cases, nuclear safety steps are very expensive. In the Japanese case, the cost is humongous.
One more thing. In most places (Bikini islands, etc) were the USA conducted above the ground nuke testing 40+ years ago, people still are not allowed to come back. It is still too dangerous.
The Fallout games or STALKER.
I've seen that movie (it's on youtube). It's very scary.