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New York Police Beat Up Protesters AGAIN Today

NYPD beat up protesters again today:


Occupy Wall Street Arrests; Fox 5 Crew and Protesters Hit by Mace, Batons: MyFoxNY.com

As Alexander Higgins reports:

This video shows Luke Rudkowski and other Occupy Wall street protestors being beat with Batons by White Shirts as the NYPD pepper sprays other members of the crowd. [Rudkowski is the lead reporter for We Are Change.]

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This photo shows the crowd being pepper spayed.

Seattle Police Rough Up Protesters

Also Seattle Police roughed up protesters today:

 


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Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment NEOSERF
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This is getting bigger because the have nots/disenfranchized are sensing a UK moment of opportunity that by lending their bodies to the size of this, perhaps a looting moment will present itself...we see it over and over again any time a sports team wins or loses...principled participants that can actually articulate what the cause is about = 2.1% of the crowd

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Hamsterfist
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For a 'non violent' movement to work, you actually need plenty of violence.  Your 'non violence' needs to be disrupting the gears of the machine, causing violence to flow down hill.  The violence from the state/corporations (what's the difference?) wakes people up, and spurs a larger movement, so long as they aren't gunning everyone down.  This violence only helps the OW protesters.  It also demonstrates that this is a serious movement, unlike the teapublicans.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:30 | Link to Comment gringo28
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frankly, it's about time the NYPD and Bloomberg cleant his mess up, ship them to NJ or better yet, DC.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:07 | Link to Comment gringo28
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yeah yeah yeah, bunch of wannabe flower children glued to your trading screens. hippiecrits....don't bogart that joint and press the wrong button on that next trade. i can't wait for these idiots to try and march on Liberty Street. they'd  be better off going straight to Jim Brady's and foregoing the arse whipping they'll get when the Feds are forced to dismantle the whole thing......oh wait, Brady's doesn't give credit, so i guess they're fucked.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:22 | Link to Comment LauraB
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While violence by the police shouldn't be tolerated against any Americans exercising their first amendment rights, I don't support the message of these protestors.  They seem to be the same useful idiots from the last election who were shouting "Yes We Can" and supported Obama's "Hope and Change".  They are being used by the Marxists to fight capitalism and in so doing are begging to be made even bigger slaves than they are now. 

If these misguided protestors really want to make a difference, they should stop whining for more bailouts and "free" stuff for themselves and read Karl Denninger's post from yesterday: OWS: Want To Turn The Tide?: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=195434  If they read that, understand it, and rise up against the use of leverage and government force, then their protests would be worthwhile.  Otherwise, they are just as greedy as the banks that they are protesting.  Don't they see the hypocrasy in their protests?  They are protesting against greedy banks, while demanding "free" college education, a "living wage" for people whether they work or not, and forgiveness of all debts.  Someone is going to pay for that and it will be the taxpayers.  They are just as greedy and immoral as the banks that they are protesting. 

We need freedom and personal responsibility.  We need to enforce property rights.  We need to send those who committed fraud (both bankers and borrowers) to prison.  We need to enforce the laws against theft and fraud.  We need to enforce the Constitution, which does not allow any bailouts for private banks, corporations, or individual borrowers.  You can't use public (taxpayer) money to pay off private debts.  Period.  We need to encourage the American values of hard work, savings, and private charity, not the current mindset of entitlements, immediate gratification, and public welfare. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:23 | Link to Comment frobn
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Duplicate post

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:42 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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It was worth saying twice. :)

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment frobn
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Do you have the faintest clue of what the protests are all about? Maybe you do and are routing for the 1%.

From the Financial Times

...“It is incredibly powerful not to have a demand – you guys in the media will go crazy trying to pigeonhole this thing.” As long as the medium remains the message, who could object to a group of young, hopeful, concerned citizens?

Bankers are adept at turning broad demands for changes in their behaviour into trench warfare over detail. That is clear from the arcane disputes over implementation of the Dodd-Frank Act – from how to define a “swap execution facility” to the Volcker rule on proprietary trading – and the revolt of Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase over elements of the Basel III capital rules.

Better for Occupy Wall Street to remain outside the skyscrapers and committee rooms and instead keep camping on the edge, reminding the insiders of popular outrage. If they force politicians not to buckle to the complaints of the financial services industry, that will be something. There weren’t many Diggers and they were soon evicted, but we remember them.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment MarketTruth
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If Karl was smart(er), he would simply say "End The Fed" as this includes their banking scheme. With a different monetary system that insists on being valued against things of actual value, one could not endlessly loan, print, endless 'non-reserves', leverage, etc. If someone failed, due to money having intrinsic value they would suffer actual consequences. Sadly, Karl still has faith in the current FIAT monetary system. Again Karl, please change your 'Gold' membership to 'Goldman Sachs', at least be a bit more honest with your readership.

PS: And no, not saying gold backed currency, as said currency could be backed by a multitude of items of actual value. Gold, silver, copper, nickel, etc

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 12:55 | Link to Comment akak
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Exactly as I have said for quite a while now about the clueless and/or disingenuous Karl Denninger: he keeps insisting it is particular people who are to blame, when it is the very foundational corrupt systems that are at fault, and need to be reformed or abolished, such as his beloved fraudulent fiat monetary system.  Karl loves authoritarianism and statism, he just wants HIMSELF in charge instead of "those other guys".

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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since we know it's a place to pick up girls i'm surprised we haven't seen any CEO's there. Keep those camera's handy!

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:56 | Link to Comment Max Hunter
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I haven't seen any evidence of what you are claiming..

Did you ever stop to think that if WS and Bankers weren't taking 50% of the wealth in this country that more opportunities would be abound for people to have good jobs and pay off their debt??  I think this movement is good for bringing attention to the greed on wall street and banking and will ultimately affect the relationship between DC and the fucking parasites they are protesting against.. At least, that's the hope.. I'm not going to throw in the towel because it's not perfect and doesn't comform 100% to what I think it should be about.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 14:12 | Link to Comment pupton
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Are we still whining about corporate "greed"? 

Max what "evidence" do you have that "WS and Bankers" are taking 50% of the wealth in this country? 

How did they get it?  Did they come to your house and rob you?  Please explain?  I have a mortgage because I decided of my own free will that I wanted to own a house and I couldn't afford one so a generous banker offered to lend me more money than I will earn and many years.  Should I spit on him for that?  Is it wrong for him to want to earn interest on the huge sum he has lent me?  is he not taking a risk and also forgoing the use of that money?

How about Wall Street?  How did they get all of that wealth?  Did Wal-Mart send goons to your house to rob you?  No.  They have what they have because people bought what they were selling.  Why is that greedy or wrong? 

I say those slugs on the street (OWS) are greedy for wanting free shit and debt forgiveness, etc. (the laughable list of OWS demands is posted above).  They are angry because someone (likely a Democrat in the White House) told them Wall St. took their money and like a foolish child they believed it.  They have been duped and used by the establishment. 

The real answer is the Federal Government and Fed. Reserve have enabled and supported the mega banks/corps and bailed out failing businesses in direct contradiction to the principles of true capitalism, and in violation of the Constituion.  A return to true Constitutional government a true free markets would fix most of this shit overnight.  The government is the culprit, not businesses.  If they had been allowed to fail there wouldn't be a need for the OWS protest.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:51 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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G!reat post!!!  I agree wholeheartedly!

The banksters wouldn't be where they are now if there were not people and politicians to take their "loans"!

We need to do something very simple if people want true freedom:

Dismantle most of the federal departments and return the power closer to the people...the states and local governments!

In my opinion, Lincoln opened Pandora's Box when he consolidated and greatly increased federal power at the expense of the Constitution.  It's all been downhill since then! 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:22 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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When you get a chance, listen to these words of wisdom from Guru and GangStarr:

http://www.lyricstime.com/gangstarr-riot-akt-lyrics.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghrI-qbiQFI

"Ain't nuttin worse than a rebel without a cause
Ain't nuttin worse than a people without laws.....

Incarceration of the mind, police brutality and poverty
These are realities of mankind"

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:20 | Link to Comment WoodMizer
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The Bacon is  in the pan and the white shirts are turning up the heat.   A Greece fire could burn the whole house down.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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i don't think these events will lead to anything fruitful. i have zero confidence that anything good will come of all of this. frankly at this juncture all of this should just be ignored......i suspect it is all one big stage production anyway...

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 13:56 | Link to Comment pupton
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+1 It's not about results now, even if it was in the beginning.  It's about media play for perception management and distraction.  Meanwhile the "jobs bill" nobody wants is flopping in the breeze, BOA and MS are hanging by a thread, two+ wars continue and Europe...well who knows.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:15 | Link to Comment CH1
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A lot of us have cops for neighbors or relatives: We need to start talking to them about thee things.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:34 | Link to Comment DOT
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The weapons are not a threat,  the minds that controls them are .

 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:48 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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its true. they are stuck in the middle. however, it will always be this way and it was always planned this way  they are the first line of defense for the machine. as long as they get paid, they will do their "jobs".........a friend of mine told me one time she thought that when the cops go home in body bags, then and only then, just maybe they might start rethinking what their "jobs" are worth....sorry to say that, but i agree with her. its a hard thing but most people don't really realize what must be done to inact any kind of meaningful changes. frankly i don't like cops. never have and never will. i have seen too much to change my mind on that. i am a native houstonian. police beatings are nothing new, believe me. this has gone on and i have many rememberances of things that have happened over the years. you ask any native houstonian and i am pretty sure most of them would whole heartedly agree with my statements on  this issue. it always has been us vs. them. that is the way it is. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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I agree with you on this. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:14 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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Rudkowski is such a poser. he probably instigated this event so he could have it caught on film in order to improve his gravitas, which has suffered as of late.......he has absolutely zero cred and anyone that knows what is going on at that "organization" known as "we are change" knows full well what he is about.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:50 | Link to Comment Max Hunter
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Yeah.. I find that guy to be suspect as well..

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:18 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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http://www.subvertednation.net/we-are-change/

 

i will let the subverted nation break it down for you real easy......some things never change do they?  everytime some organization starts up, and it appears it is about to do good things for the people , what happens?  it is subverted and infiltrated and then it is controlled....i get sick and tired of it. 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:39 | Link to Comment riley martini
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So true look how easly the the fascist insider thief Republicans took over the Tea Party . Maybe this time it will de different.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:04 | Link to Comment moondog
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I had hope when Ron Paul founded the Tea Party movement. Then the usual Neo-Con slime showed up and tookover the movement. Palin? Bachman? Perry? All idiots and glory seeking slimeballs. Say what you want about Ron Paul, but he has been on message for decades. A lesser man would have given up and went to the dark side for more power and $$$$$.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:57 | Link to Comment High Plains Drifter
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when the tea party first started , it was full of independent thinking libertarian white men, mostly...........then something happened. when it first started, of course the talking radio heads, beck and limbaugh and others were totally against it, if you remember. but when it was infiltrated, and controlled suddenly beck and limbaugh etc, started talking nicely about it. isn't that intestesting. did you notice?  i did.  don't get me wrong. i am guilty as sin in many ways myself. i too was lost in the right wing neocon faction for so many years. but one day, yes one fine day, i woke up and well..........all i can say is that it put a whole new way of thinking in my mind........and then i learned (and still learn) that everything i thought i knew was a lie.......i walked out of the fog one day and joined the few who truely know what is happening.......the biggest problem anyone knowing the real truth has, is getting people on the same page before it is too late.........and i am afraid that may never happen and there are many who are resigned to this realization and have now forgotten about worrying about it anymore......

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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"These protestors want to TAKE power away from the bankers and GIVE it to the ones who are abusing them (the government)."

I don't see that at all.  From what I have read, and heard down near Occupy Boston, is the fact people are fed up that the banks/corporations essentially ARE the government. 

And the underlying messages of these occupations? 

A) Get Money Out (of politics)

B) We don't need the government or policitians, we can do this shit ourselves.

B is what scares the shit out of elites in both government and corporations.  Both the left and right leaders of both business and politic for about 40+ years, in relatively GOOD times, have been the ones leading around the societal dog by its tail, taking it for walks, feeding it, and telling it where it can go and explore. 

Now that the food isn't as good as the dog is used to. Instead of walking on nice grass to frolic, the path is now littered with broken needles and glass that only the dog can see.  And the dog can smell weakness and fear.  It's going back to it feral roots.  And when it decides to finally lose its shit....well, ya'll know what happens next:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants'_Revolt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Revolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_revolution

 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 13:43 | Link to Comment OldSouth
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From what I've observed and discussed with the younger generation I would have to agree with you. 

History teaches that in extreme times protestors don't care if a list of demands is met as their real purpose is to uphold a facade of negotiation. This tactic works exceptionally well if the demands are just incomprehensible enough to maintain the focus of future action in a relaxed and accessable position.  Protestors rarely underestimate the abilities of those controlling the reins of power and understand they will lose percentage to the cause. Likewise the 1% may be counted on to maintain a level of arrogance sufficient to blind them from reality. The mob is at the door while cake and champagne continue to be served.     

Wall Street should carefully ponder why these demands are so vague. At face value the contrived list seems as blandly ridiculous as "twelve sushi rolls and a pair of skinny jeans" would sound to the ears of the 1%.

In pondering, however, perhaps they might also keep in mind that after years of acting as unwilling participants in the confiscation game our younger generation has well memorized both gameplay and rulesets.  Add to that a lifetime of Internet use and we have a generation with an intrinsic understanding of the power behind mass and maneuver. It seems efficient application of the previous lessons is now only a minor additional step. 

In the end it comes down to a misreading of the "rights of man" by the 1%. Human rights have never been granted by those in charge but are the actions and directions humans will always take when pressed by excessive external forces.  But of course it's different this time.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:29 | Link to Comment gringo28
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yeah, well, based on what these dumb shits are "demanding" 'B' seems entirely appropriate. i mean, please, a demand that ALL debt be forgiven? that's just stupid and speaks to the idiocy from which these morons operate. they are self-interested pure and simple, just like any good old capitalist is. to pretend otherwise is bullshit.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment moondog
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Is that any more ridiculous than FED's 0% loans to corporations and banks (especially foreign banks)? The elite have been gaming the system for a hundred years or more. I think the little man is waking up and saying..WTF?? If you can give trillions of dollars away to banks and corporations (and tax payers ultimately pay for it), where's my piece of the pie?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 13:48 | Link to Comment pupton
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THE OWS DEMANDS http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/10/the_extremist_nut_jobs_of_occupy_wall_street.html

 

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 22:50 | Link to Comment geekgrrl
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From: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-s...

"Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."

So what's your excuse for deliberately misrepresenting the OWS movement? Banker shill? Psyops? Crazy person?

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:08 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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Just released ny police say they were sent out by mayor blomberg, they did not want to go!

 

Its just like europe -all the elites together - then when it starts to fall apart - its every elite for himself

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:34 | Link to Comment Comay Mierda
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this will continue to deteriorate. many of the police sympathize with the protesters because they are getting screwed economically too.

agent provocateurs will incite riots. there wont be enough police to contain it. Manhattan will look like mexico city soon. Boss-snatchings will occur, just like in france a few years ago

too bad its almost impossible to get a concealed weapons permit in NYC. Many law-abiding citizens wont be able to properly defend themselves when SHTF

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:48 | Link to Comment dcb
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they should be called the nypt:

New york police terrorists.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:47 | Link to Comment Kina
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WHITE SHIRTS = BROWN SHIRTS

 

Actually that occured to me as well. But I think it is probably WHITE SHIRTS maybe a Stasi in the making, paid for by banksters.

Executions of dissidents

People were imprisoned for such reasons as trying to leave the country, or telling political jokes. Prisoners were kept, isolated and disoriented, knowing nothing of what was going on in the outside world.[23]

After the mid-1950s, Stasi executions were carried out in strict secrecy, and were usually accomplished with a guillotine and, in later years, by a single pistol shot to the neck.[24] In most instances, the relatives of the executed were not informed of either the sentence or the execution.[24]

 

 

 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:11 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:00 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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I'll accept that interpretation.  Either way, scary.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:45 | Link to Comment dcb
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you have pictures of these people, find out who they are, if they have families etc. let them know they will have to face the consequnces of their actions.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:40 | Link to Comment dcb
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the lefties should consider arming themselves so the real fighting can actually start and wwe can get this over with. the worst of course is bloomberg who just backs the police. first it was the republican national convention, now this.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:37 | Link to Comment bigmikeO
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The irony here:

These protestors want to TAKE power away from the bankers and GIVE it to the ones who are abusing them (the government).

At least the Tea Party wanted to give the power to the people, these folks seem to be pro-wealth redistribution, which is pro-government.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Kina
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Actually this is untrue. That is NOT what they are trying to do. You are just making stuff up now.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:45 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Tea Party asked the government not to do something (Obamacare). OWS wants the government to do something (punish all capitalists because of the sins of crony capitalists).

I will never ask the government for a favor but I'm sure as hell willing to stand up and shout "No!" I've protested wars since 1970 and shook my fist at Arlen Specter at an Obamacare meeting but I won't hit the streets and beg for redistribution of wealth.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:51 | Link to Comment dcb
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your comment reeally shows little understanding o how the system as structured currenly functions. the systm function to redistribute wealth upwwards. you seem to only have  problem downwards. it's not as mmuch wealth redistribution as fairness.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:56 | Link to Comment g speed
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My problem is with who gets to distribute--up or down-- fuck the distributers.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 11:27 | Link to Comment DOT
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The re-distribution mafia; thank-you for your favor, Godfather!

I will repay you with my vote.

I will support you with my voice at the protests.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 08:54 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Does my stated opposition to crony capitalism confuse you? Can you not tell the difference between those who succeed by virtue of talent and hard work and those who use government connections to make a profit?

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!