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Obama Is Implementing Plans For War Throughout the Middle East Created 10 Years Ago by the Neocons

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By Washington’s Blog

 

Politico reports:

The U.S. has dramatically ratcheted up the pressure on Syrian President Bashar Assad, slapping new sanctions on key companies Wednesday as White House press secretary Jay Carney said the leader is guilty of “heinous actions” and the country would be better off without him.

 

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President Barack Obama and other administration officials have already said publicly that Assad has “lost legitimacy” and must begin the push toward democracy in Syria or step down. A few weeks ago, after months of protests on the streets of Syria and little progress from Assad without explicit U.S. calls for his resignation, administration officials began to consider calling for Assad to step down, CNN said.

 

The new push from the White House, officials said, will make clear Assad is no longer a credible reformer and should give up his post.

A Nato plan for a post-Gaddaffi Libya - carving up the country, and giving the richest spoils to the UAE - has been leaked.

The U.S. is already at war in Somalia. As the New York Times noted last month: "U.S. Expands Its Drone War Into Somalia".

The U.S. is always trying to justify war against Iran (see this, for example) and Lebanon.

What explains these widespread wars throughout the Middle East?

As American reporter Gareth Porter reported in 2008:

Three weeks after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, former US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld established an official military objective of not only removing the Saddam Hussein regime by force but overturning the regime in Iran, as well as in Syria and four other countries in the Middle East, according to a document quoted extensively in then-under secretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith's recently published account of the Iraq war decisions. Feith's account further indicates that this aggressive aim of remaking the map of the Middle East by military force and the threat of force was supported explicitly by the country's top military leaders.

Feith's book, War and Decision, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing "new regimes" in a series of states...

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General Wesley Clark, who commanded the North Atlantic Treaty Organization bombing campaign in the Kosovo war, recalls in his 2003 book Winning Modern Wars being told by a friend in the Pentagon in November 2001 that the list of states that Rumsfeld and deputy secretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz wanted to take down included Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan and Somalia [and Lebanon].

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When this writer asked Feith . . . which of the six regimes on the Clark list were included in the Rumsfeld paper, he replied, "All of them."

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The Defense Department guidance document made it clear that US military aims in regard to those states would go well beyond any ties to terrorism. The document said the Defense Department would also seek to isolate and weaken those states and to "disrupt, damage or destroy" their military capacities - not necessarily limited to weapons of mass destruction (WMD)...

Rumsfeld's paper was given to the White House only two weeks after Bush had approved a US military operation in Afghanistan directed against bin Laden and the Taliban regime. Despite that decision, Rumsfeld's proposal called explicitly for postponing indefinitely US airstrikes and the use of ground forces in support of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance in order to try to catch bin Laden.

Instead, the Rumsfeld paper argued that the US should target states that had supported anti-Israel forces such as Hezbollah and Hamas.

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A senior officer on the Joint Staff told State Department counter-terrorism director Sheehan he had heard terrorist strikes characterized more than once by colleagues as a "small price to pay for being a superpower".

Indeed, in 2007, General Clark told Democracy Now:

I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you’re too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don’t know." He said, "I guess they don’t know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it’s worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran."

Obama is simply carrying out the Neocons' war plans created right after 9/11 ... if not before.

Postscript: The former director of the CIA’s counter-terrorism center says that American policy in the Middle East is failing because the U.S. doesn't believe in democracy.

And security experts - conservative hawks and liberal doves alike - agree that waging war in the Middle East weakens national security and increases terrorism. See this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

Oh well ... can't change policy now, can we?

 

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Fri, 08/12/2011 - 00:18 | 1553317 Founders Keeper
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Hi disabledvet.

Why do you think the Crusaders "were a little right of center"?

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 09:08 | 1553825 JW n FL
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he must be a baptist.. LOL!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 03:02 | 1553494 Pay Day Today
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How can you even have a political "Right" and "Left" before the French Revolution!!!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 04:48 | 1553535 falak pema
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You could : Socrates vs Athenian Hegemony; Cicero's republic vs Caesar's dictatorship; Abelard vs Saint Bernard and divine absolute power in their confrontation in 1141, the beginnings of the fight between dogma and reason in France; Galileo against the Inquisition; Luther vs Catholicism. The whole trend of western civilisation has been to impose 'reason of logic', primacy of fact, rule of law, democracy and republican rule on its traditional counter part from barbarian times : 'reason of power', incarnated by Emperors, Popes and then the Nation-State. All through the ages this is evident even when Pericles, who invented democracy, fell into the 'honey trap' of hubris by imposing 'hegemony' on non Athenians. 

Classical left and right play in the geopolitical sense.

If you want a clear logical definition of what differentiates 'right wing' thinking from 'left wing' thinking I would say that it lies in the confrontation of 'top down logic' and 'bottom up logic'; the french revolution and the american revolution incarnated the triumph of the latter in their declaration of human rights; the corner stone of 'left' logic.

The Crusaders were the original 'ethnic cleansers' for IDEOLOGICAL reasons in western civilisation. Their mandate was defined by Saint Bernard in 'Laude Novae Militae', who extended their right to waging just war when he created the 'soldier-monk' concept. It was a travesty of the Gospel 'give unto Caesar'...it desecrated the monk by putting blood on his hands. He justified it in his treatise, as prolongation of Saint Augustine's just war concept, by declaring 'homicide' in Holy Land was 'malicide' when executed by the Templar. You cannot get more 'right wing' than that! It destroyed the moral basis of the church. As they lost the Crusades, in spite of 'God wills it', inspite of 'Gott mitt uns', and then reverted to fighting the 'enemy within', logical perverted knee jerk to save the church and launch the Crusade against the Cathar heretic and declare the Inquisition.

That's precisely the route the neo cons took today : 'The clash of civilisations, the new crusade, the new debacle, both moral and military.

Then, during the Crusades the geo political aim of the Franks was to conquer Constantinople, to make the Latin church supreme. Jerusalem was just a false flage symbol. The real riches were in Constantinople and controlling the East -West trade along silk and spice routes that Constantinople controlled. They succeeded in 1204. Venice became top dog and the Franks ruled Mare Nostrum until 1291. By then they had been kicked out of both Holy Land and Constantinople and they also lost Sicily and then Naples to the Spaniards subsequently.

Today, the GWB neo cons fought their mid east war ostensibly for 'clash of civilisation' but in reality for 'OIL'. This is about OIL since sixty years; as was the Crusades about controlling burgeoning east-west trade, through colonisation of Holy Land, that Constantinople had monopolised for many centuries first with Persia, then with the Arabs.

There you have the analogy of how the neo-cons of GWB in  their NWO configuration were a carbon copy of the Franks of the middle ages. They will both meet a similar fate.  History seems to repeat itself...

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 20:20 | 1556002 Fiat Money
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Excellent discussion of the "divine right of HOMICIDE" by Augustine, St. Bernard, the Crusaders (and Franks), etc,  except that you leave out the OLD TESTAMENT - where "TO BE GOD-LIKE" is to  LAY WASTE to ENTIRE swaths of humans (often in the most brutal, savage, & barbaric manner possible, i.e. killing babies & children, defiling the dead)  -  see Sodom & Gamorah.  Indeed, EVERY  SUNDAY SCHOOL in the world that teaches  THE STORY OF  NOAH & the ARK - are  promulgating  wholesale ETHNIC CLEANSING - DIVINE GENOCIDE - as a "JUST" mass homicide !!  (Not to mention the 2nd half of the "Noah was GOD's CHOOSEN WISE MAN"  story - namely,  he gets blind, stinkin' drunk, passes out in a stupor, wakes up, and CONDEMNS his son Ham's  DESCENDENTS UNTO ETERNITY - the bible quote used by Jews and Southern Christ-ians alike to JUSTIFY SLAVERY for dozens (if not hundreds) of years!!) 

      Here's a couple quick LISTS of  THE MEN - THE Neo-Cons - who were DRIVING  George W. Bush & Dick Cheney to  ILLEGAL WARS OF AGGRESSION and  the SYSTEMATIC LOOTING of the American people - 

"PNAC" Neo-Cons - the TIP of the LIKUD ICEBERG - behind the Bush-Cheney administration: http://newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm http://newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm and http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/bushjews.html  

 bonus:  the NEO-CON  Likudnik WARMONGERS & FINANCIAL SWINDLERS  behind Obama:  http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/obamajews.html

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:16 | 1558014 rampancy777
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Yes hello i felt obligated to respond to your statements regarding the Bible, specifically in regard to the difference between making oneself "Godlike" and making oneself to be like God. It is Godlike to be righteous, that is without sin. To obey the will of God would be to make oneself "Godlike." This is appropriate since we have been made by God and in his image. However, to make oneself "like God" is to say "there is no god besides me, i decide good from evil, and if there is a god i condemn him for his actions." 

Who in the Noah story is guilty of genocide? Noah? Rain? God?  He is certainly a better judge of right and wrong than we are. I do not believe that you can logically make a genocide charge stick to God.

Also the Lord knows your heart so he will judge you based on your motives as well as your deeds. We make our plans, but results are the Lord's.

As far as you fascination with the Jews, well they are interesting people. Yet do you really think that there are only bad Jews, and only good "whatever you are?" Most of us can't stand our own family members but you want to condemn all the Jews? Isn't it God who has kept these Jews around all this time? And you are blaming them for American problems. Listen friend, I was born a US citizen, and I can tell you it is us who are to blame for this crap. You've got to lay off the Christians and the Jews, it makes you sound xenophobic, racist, and anti-american, since our republic specifically provides for the protection of all groups equally.

It is wholly out of your ability to shape the world into your own vision. All that you can do is accept what God told us all in the beginning. You are cursed. You will die. Just remember, Jesus did die for people like us, offering us hope in place of a curse, paying for our sins himself.

In conclusion, things would not be better if the acting god was not God Almighty. Things would be a million times worse if something other was the final authority.

also...

wasn't it Jesus who chased the money changers aka bankers from the temple?

doesn't the bible say neither a borrower or lender be?

or how about "the lord detests dishonest scales."

i think you are a smart guy but i fear you have rejected hope prematurely.

don't tread on me 

buy the dip

ron paul 2012

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 09:57 | 1553961 Founders Keeper
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[...by declaring 'homicide' in Holy Land was 'malicide' when executed by the Templar. You cannot get more 'right wing' than that! It destroyed the moral basis of the church.]---falak pema

Hi falak pema

How was the "malicide" of the Templar "right wing"?

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 10:20 | 1554044 falak pema
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It was based on divine word that 'God wills it'. Socrates taught us in the Melian dialogues that there were no two types of justice, one for Victor one for Victim. Justice was universal. Jesus taught us the same. But the Catholic church of Saint Bernard said no! Right Wingers as I have mentioned represent age old tradition based on 'emotional' values : race, religion, geography, blood line, etc. Left Wingers look for new horizons. Logic was the new horizon then as well as the early christian teachings of the apostles who believed in a jewish heretic called Jesus...subversive to both Herod and Caesar...But then maybe you have another definition of right wing ideology. I am talking about the tradition in the US since Sen. Joe Mccarthy, through Goldwater, to Johnson, Nixon and then RR and the Bushes. Their ideological support being W Buckley and consorts, now the Neo Cons and the born again christian elements. So right wing is not just Dem/Rep split. Its mind set. We are what we do. And Johnson and Nixon did what they did...as Clinton and GWB subsequently in relation to the current financial context. They were both responsible for deregulation, ZIRP, and its current mayhem.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 11:00 | 1554247 Founders Keeper
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[Right Wingers as I have mentioned represent age old tradition based on 'emotional' values : race, religion, geography, blood line, etc. ...maybe you have another definition of right wing ideology. I am talking about the tradition in the US since Sen. Joe Mccarthy...]---falak pema

Thank you for your Reply, falak.

Indeed we have different definitions of "the right."

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 09:24 | 1553869 ReactionToClose...
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wow ....

not bad ... elements of truth, etc.

But this reads like the Mein Kampf of Dan Brown "Da Vince Code Theoligy".

Come on,  George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, TJefferson, John Adams, John Jay, John Hancock, et all really were aligned with the fact-based logically driven, botton-up French Revolution ... .which turned into a blood bath?  Hah!

I got a natural high readng this ..... is this the prototype for another 'historically accurate' Hollywierd screenplay ... you know, moral relativism and all that  versus failed left/right, 'they are dividing us for a reason' tradition?    .... Tom Friedmanesque higher, more rational, more global perspecttive on moral order?

And for the record, this guy who blogs as GWBlog is a bit much ... Neocons (arguably & largely evolved from, Scoop Jackson Democrats by the way ... go research this for all the political sophisticates) everywhere .... I swear, they, the dasterdly, Neocons are everywhere ... Jamie Dimon must be one too. 

I know, I'm a disbelieving, naive idiot, insufficienetly educated  ...  Here is a dare ... try my reading list.  And as a biz person, I wake up every day to what mistake  will I make next that might be fatal ... and rigid ideology is one of the traps ... but principles are oftentimes what has saved me from disaster. And I view debt limits as a principle not an ideology ... no one can borrow at these levels ... there is mean reversion eventually.

Stay open minded and any historical account you read has to be a 'version' of it unless you saw it with your own eyes ....

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 20:38 | 1556034 Fiat Money
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"Come on, George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, TJefferson, John Adams, John Jay, John Hancock, et all really were aligned with the fact-based logically driven, botton-up French Revolution ... .which turned into a blood bath? Hah!"

 Lighten up, RtC...

    The VERY EXCELLENT  1 hr. History Channel video,  "BARBARIANS II: The ANGLO-SAXONS"  explains that the GERMANIC TRIBES that INVADED and conquered,  wholesale WIPED OUT Roman culture in "Dark Ages" Britannia  had a tradition of EQUALITY within the tribal units; their warrior-kings ruling by CONSENT of the tribe, there were NO inherited royalty as ALL the ROMAN EMPEROR dominated cultures knew.    Does that mean the Anglo-Saxon war tribes were "democratic" or less ruthlessly savage in their dealings with foreign enemies?  HELL NO!  -  BUT, they DID  establish the principle of RULE BY CONSENT.

  Fast forward a few centuries,  did the English NOBLES who FORCED King John to sign the MAGNA CARTA,  intend that EVERY serf & peon in their dukedoms should have the 'rights' and privileges of "FREE MEN"??   HELL NO!  

     IT WAS A PROCESS, specifically, the nobles  RESTRAINING the power of the King (John) to WAGE COSTLY WARS,  without approval (consent) of those who would be TAXED to PAY FOR THOSE WARS.   Of course, if John had been a better - or luckier - commander, the English would have forgiven him his high war taxes, the English LOVE a CONQUERING HERO war king.  

   Fast forward a few more centuries, for fellow white men,  Washington, Franklin, Hamilton, Jefferson, and other founding fathers in America  were a BIG IMPROVEMENT over King George III,  although, if you were a Black slave, they were AS BAD or worse.  America's white slavery/owner culture of course trying to establish ruthless, cruel  slavery for slave descendents unto eternity. 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 09:13 | 1553838 JW n FL
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Fucking Bravo!

Can I get a curtain call of some sort?

Encore'!! Mother Fucker! Encore'!!!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 09:38 | 1553881 falak pema
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I've even written a novel about this middle age period. This shill, GWB, pissed me so off with Irak and Clash Of Civilizations in 2003, I learnt about that period and wrote this novel.

Here is the link!

www.falakpema.com

You can even buy it on kindle at Amazon.com.

The amazing thing about fiction and reality is that having written a book using as hero a pagan viking, like  new comer of sorts, a reverse modelled Connecticut Yankee in King Arthurs Court, his Old mythical values revolt against this new ideological and colonial war called the Crusades; he fights both the Templars and the Saracens as his honour obliges. He cannot buy into Templar exaction of muslim populace.

Now out of the blue, the reality hits us all in Norway, and this fella extolls medieval Templar values to justify his current acts. 

So my book is the perfect antidote to the current debate about clash of civilizations in the west; terrible regression to mine eyes. 

I thought a real look at what happened then merited a novel. 

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 10:55 | 1554228 JW n FL
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Bro I think you are Fantastic.. but understand by talking to me you will be branded a Nazi and all kinds of ugly things.. I like you so please be aware of the ignorance that permeates here among the majority.

 

I will look into the book! You have wonderful delivery!! 

What I lack in talent I try to make up with in facts or splashes of color! LOL!! 

By well! and Thank You for sharing!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 11:04 | 1554260 falak pema
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The internet is a free space like highly oxygenated air, heady stuff. I share it gladly with you although tomorrow I may lock horns with you. That is the privilege of having this occasion to share without losing our free will to dare while all the time knowing we care...

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 07:10 | 1553599 Kobe Beef
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I would like to hear your comments on the similarities in failure of the British Empire & its Successor, the USA. I find it fascinating that the Anglo-American Alliance is sandbagged yet again in Iraq, Afghanistan, & Yemen, to name a few. You'd think they'd learn eventually.

Cheers,

Beef

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 10:31 | 1553693 falak pema
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Hubris makes a serial killer out of man as he thinks himself invincible. Being invincible makes him believe 'might is right'. We are now in that recurrent vicious circle of ...the harder they fall...The British, to build their Empire in their prize plum colony, India, established and reneged three hundred local treaties with successive feudal states, using one to bring down his neighbour and then using another to repeat domino effect. Such callous behaviour, totally alien to the nobility of purpose outwardly extolled in the House of Commons, was the secret pride of those who were nurtured on the playing fields of Eton, like the skull n boners who rule in the US of A today in a similar mind set, as avowed, self anointed 'leaders of the free world'.

Carthage delenda est...is the motto of all those who will one day face the Ides of March, then the Barbarians at their gates, having outsourced their defence to mercenaries, bankers, Taliban hit men and conditorris of the worst kind who will inexorably turn against them one day. That is the recurrent logic of empires. 

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:56 | 1553124 sentient
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The problem with the US is we have spent 10 years pissing with the Islamists....  As POTUS I would have exterminated these rodents with 1,000 MOABS.  If they would have survived 1,000 more would fall.  Screw this 7th century scum.  No American lives and we strip mine their countries for what we need... FUCK THEM!

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 23:48 | 1553250 blindman
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but we have been their partners for 50+ years.
see the golden gimmick and the petro dollar.
btw, so has israel.

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 23:08 | 1553164 gangland
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA to  eternity...

 

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:51 | 1553114 PulauHantu29
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"Change you can believe in."

mmmmmmm.....

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:50 | 1553108 the grateful un...
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you have to wonder why Bush didn't expand the No_Fly Zone across the St of Hormuz. That may have been part of a quid pro quo with UAE, we were going to sell them the US port authority, and they would let us put boots on the ground across at the vital Hormuz straight. but then Sec of St Snow messed up the deal and for that he was fired.

When Def Sec Gates was asked, if he thought we had made any mistakes the last decade, he said yes. Question then, did you think invading Iraq was a mistake, and he said NO. WHat he meant if you understand gradeschool math is that invading Iraq was OK, but occupying Iraq was a big mistake.

So I think what THEY all think, is that the ME will be a No-Fly Zone in a few years, which means your country can be a hotbed of terrorism, and we will bomb you every day, and then leave you to clean up the damage. No reparations, no pacificiation, no policing of rival factions. The US will stick their dick in the hornets nest and walk away before they start to sting. This is the Isreali policy on Gaza by the way. Great program for oppressing millions of people but they learned something as the victims.

all the the ME will look like Krakou in the 30's. eventually we hustle them off to camps. unless of course they agree to work for Corporate AMerica for slave wages. after all the Chicoms are getting a bit fractious, where will we get our tribute?

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:47 | 1553096 bigkahuna
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They must be thinking of waging this war with drones exclusively because the rumblings are of troop cutbacks for the DOD.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 10:52 | 1554213 Max Hunter
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I'm sure there is a False Flag operation in the works to fix this little stumbling block..

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 22:58 | 1556313 bigkahuna
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I hope it is not as clever as the last one or two. I hope we can as a country see through it.

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:43 | 1553071 gangland
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gasp! i am shocked i tell ya! just flabbergasted! not peace prize barry ?!?!? say it isnt so!

dear mr barry-presidento,

you lost the great game cause you suck at strategy.  this is your memo.

buh-bye.

kind regards and best wishes always,

Russia, China, Iran, Pakistan, India, Brazil, Saudi et al.

 

#bushclanFAIL #uberziofailism #winthefuture #treason4lulz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI

paraphrasing black agenda report editor glen ford: obama is neo-conservative neo-liberalism in black face.

http://uhurunews.com/video/play?resource_name=barack-obama-white-power-i...

 

full disclosure i am caucasian. feel me? like from there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBHS2jfF5Z4

 

do yourself a favor spend some time watching this shit as opposed to the tee vee.

 

 

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 20:59 | 1552754 Everybodys All ...
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Don't forget the instability is good for the caliphate loving Kenyan ... while you are at it.

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 20:55 | 1552741 Arthur
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Thu, 08/11/2011 - 20:37 | 1552691 israhole
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But it's good for Israel!

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 06:54 | 1553585 max2205
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All under cover of a peace price. Bush's both need a peace prize

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 20:56 | 1552743 Arthur
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No.  A stable Middle East is good for Israel.

Fellow democracies, that don't need to demonize Israel as a means of distracting their masses, would be good for Israel.  The current protesters in the middle east don't mention Israel, ever wonder why?  

Free socities are an anathma to Hamas.

 

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:33 | 1553055 israhole
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What do you mean protesters don't mention Israel?  They all do, except on TV.  Hundreds of videos on youtube prove this point.

 

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 09:49 | 1553937 DosZap
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israhole,

The news mentions Israel all the time, you would  think they are paid BY Hama's,and Al Queda, and Iran directly.

Never, ever do you see a story with Israels side off it, just how many children and civies they have supposedly killed,after being rocketed 400x's a week, damn them for actually responding to a constant barrage of attacks...........

When they do respond, they ALWAYS are made out  to be the shit heads on MSM Nazi TV.

Folks always talk about the Zionists here,never about Israels right to just be left the hell alone, then I am sure they would not be constantly at war,and having to retaliate against the unending IRAN supported Hamas rocket attacks.

Iran is the BIGGEST terrorism exporter(and have killed more Americans I might add) along with the Saudi's(our bestest buddies) in the entire ME.

Want PEACE there, STOMP these two Dictatorships like a damn bug..................... Iran  is run by a madman, and ruled over by a radical Theocracy,hell bent on destroying all around them, that do not submit to Sharia Law.

Friggin nut cakes.

Allah Akbar my ass.....................sick of this shit

 

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 10:50 | 1554207 Max Hunter
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My God you are so full of Zoinist propaganda it's leaking out of your ears.  All I hear on MSM is how Jews are under threat.  If you honestly think MSM is siding with Arabs than there is really no hope for you to have a constructive conversation about this.

If you want to bring even the resemblance of information you are going to have to do a little better and tone down the obvious lies you propogate for Zionist and Neocon agendas.  Good God man... have some humility. Don't be so insulting to the readers here.

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:59 | 1553142 disabledvet
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lighten up a-hole. besides they're protesting soaring food prices. i thought you'd be crowing. apparently you "don't have your a-hole" game on.

Thu, 08/11/2011 - 22:44 | 1553086 Ahmeexnal
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Do you also blame Israel for your low IQ?

I bet you always blame someone else for your idiocy.

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