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There's a list from Mish at the bottom with the only senators possibly worth not tossing out of office. I like Bruce Krasting's plan: Throw the bums out! We may disagree on economic principles, issues like taxes, unions, and abortion, but maybe we can agree on a plan to choke off the pervasive corruption in politics, and get rid of elected officials who are willing to shred the Constitution. See also Washington's "Obama Rings in the New Year By Signing Bill Allowing Indefinite Detention of Americans" and “For Civil Libertarians, The NDAA Is Our Mayan Moment: 2012 Is When The Nation Embraced Authoritarian Powers With Little More Than A Pause Between Rounds Of Drinks” ~ Ilene

Obama Signs Legislation Killing Bill of Rights; Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Rachel Maddow Skewer Obama; Road to Tyranny; Complete List of Senatorial Cowards Backing the Bill

Courtesy of Mish

In 9 Things to Say Goodbye To, I lamented on the loss of privacy and free speech.

Unfortunately, the situation is much worse, thanks a huge group of senatorial cowards that wrote and passed a "defense" bill that allows US citizens to be arrested, detained, even sent to Guantanamo, Cuba without being charged with any crimes.

On New Year's Eve Obama Signed Defense Bill Despite 'Reservations'

Obama's Blatant Hypocrisy 

The "reservations" Obama has are of his own making.  Please consider this skewering of President Obama by Rachel Maddow.

Link if video does not play: Rachel Maddow Skewers Obama

The bill is a clear and direct attack on the Bill of Rights.

Link if video does not play: Rand Paul vs. John McCain

Road to Tyranny

Please consider this video from Larry Wilkerson, retired colonel and former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell.

Link if video does not play: Wilkerson: New Military Powers the Road to Tyranny 

"Larry Wilkerson: National Defense Authorization Act that passed the Senate giving the military power for indefinite detention without trial is a draconian violation of our rights"

Ron Paul Say Defense Bill Establishes Martial Law In America

In an interview with Alex Jones on Prison Planet, Ron Paul says Defense Bill Establishes Martial Law In America

Bill Passes Senate 86 to 13

Unfortunately the Indefinite detention bill passed in Senate

Exactly 220 years to the date after the Bill of Rights was ratified, the US Senate today voted 86 to 13 in favor of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, allowing the indefinite detention and torture of Americans.

As RT reported earlier, one provision in NDAA FY2012 will allow for the reinstatement of “enhanced interrogation techniques,” essentially making waterboarding and forms of psychological torture a very possible reality for anyone America deems to be a threat, including its own citizens who, prior to the ruling, had the US Constitution on their side.

Among the corporations which have lobbied in support of NDAA FY2012 are several military contractors, including Honeywell and Bluewater Defense, who together have received millions of dollars in Pentagon guarantees this year alone.

“How long can you hold them? As long as it takes to make us safe,” said Graham.

In his closing marks, Graham ironically recited that in respect to “civil liberties and the American way of life,” US citizens must fight. “If we don’t fight for it, we’re going to lose it.”

Unfit for Office

Any Senator voting on a bill that would allow US citizens to be arrested, detained indefinitely, even sent to Cuba without being formally charged with any crime is no friend or supporter to the US constitution.

Note the absurd irony in Graham's statements. The fight for freedom can never be won by trashing freedoms or the Bill of Rights.

Senator Graham and Senator McCain are both huge hypocrites and cowards. 

Indeed, all 86 Senators who voted for that bill are cowards, a hypocrites, and no friend to the United States or the US Constitution.

Even more disgusting, Senator Mark Udall introduced an amendment intended to forbid the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens and even that amendment was rejected by a vote of 38–60.

I do not have a roll call on that, but there are 60 extreme cowards who wrap themselves in a flag while pissing on the Constitution. 

13 Courageous Votes

Nay ID Crapo, Michael [R]
Nay ID Risch, James [R]
Nay IL Durbin, Richard [D]
Nay IA Harkin, Thomas [D]
Nay KY Paul, Rand [R]
Nay MD Cardin, Benjamin [D]
Nay MN Franken, Al [D]
Nay OK Coburn, Thomas [R]
Nay OR Merkley, Jeff [D]
Nay OR Wyden, Ron [D]
Nay SC DeMint, Jim [R]
Nay UT Lee, Mike [R]
Nay VT Sanders, Bernard [I]

There you have it. Anyone not on that list voted to trash the constitution. I am particularly pleased by the votes of Senators Jim DeMint, Thomas Coburn, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Michael Crapo, and James Risch.

Those are the only six Republicans willing to stand behind the Constitution.  

Senator Rand Paul Explains His Vote

Link if video does not play: Rand Paul's Impassioned Plea

"Detaining citizens without a court trial is not American. ... Justice Scalia said the very core of liberty, secured by our anglo-saxon system of separated powers has been freedom from indefinite imprisonment at the will of the executive. Justice Scalia was, as he often does, following the wisdom of our founding fathers. ... As Franklin wisely warned, those who give up their liberty for security may wind up with neither."

Wikepedia has the Benjamin Franklin quote as follows "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Benjamin Franklin is correct and Senator Rand Paul was a hero for fighting this bill. Sadly, Rand Paul failed to a collective group of cowards who do not know what the Constitution is about or why we need it.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

 


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Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:22 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
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f you support Ron Paul, PLEASE go to drudgereport.com and vote in their IN HOUSE poll.  It's right at the top and DOES NOT link you or spam you.  I just voted and after it just shows the results.

RON PAUL 2012

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:59 | Link to Comment non_anon
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yeah, did it, he is in 2nd to Romney in the Drudge poll so far.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:56 | Link to Comment my puppy for prez
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Milestones
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"Any law repugnant to the constitution is VOID. This court and all other offices of government are bound by that instrument."  Marbury v Madison Cranch 2 1803.

That pitiful scranny necked step n fetch it should have his neck wrung like a barnyard chicken.        Milestones

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Beard of Zeus
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To be a Patriot is to be against the State.

It's come down to this.

The State will employ thousands of angry non-Whites and immigrants as a Revolutionary Guard to harass, persecute, and assault American citizens.

It's coming.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:12 | Link to Comment wmefford
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

(Who will guard the guards themselves?)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:09 | Link to Comment pvzh
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I have a feeling that Ron Paul is Flavius Aetius of our time who will meet the same fate with the same consequences for the country.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:02 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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I believe this is the appropriate graphic for the day:


 

http://cryptogon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/hope.jpg

 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Nostradumbass
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Tyler(s),

Please keep this thread posted prominently on the main page for awhile. Give people a chance to read and forward as much as possible.

Serious business here.

Thanks.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 13:27 | Link to Comment The Old Man
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The Patriot Act formed the TSA and DHS. Apparently that's not enough. The NDAA, supposedly, directs the indefinite detention of terrorist sympathizers (by their defenition) and their ilk for our protection.

However. If you make a law (NDAA) of such substance, which cloaks the interpretation through gray legalize, many forms of domestic terror can be proscribed to it, then what you are doing is protecting your own ass within the beltway, not the population as a whole. Why, except for the Guantanamo Bay detention of those captured terrorists, would we need a law to protect us from ourselves?

Trying to not get off topic, this act, as I see it , it some kind of a hedge against major civil disorder. And not just any run of the mill riots, but prolonged civil disobedience. There was a time when the US military was used against a population in this country. We can't remember a recent one because Custer lost at the Little Big Horn so long ago and we'd like to forget. I think these are the intentions of this bill. They are preparing to fight succession and strong opposition to their future moves. They do not want any interference.

If that's not Tyranny, then nothing is.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Reptil
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Lmo Mutton
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Legislation does not supercede the Constitution.

Only the People's failure to enforce the Constitution renders it invalid.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 13:10 | Link to Comment ItsDanger
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Sad to see Obama who was so against Gitmo is more than happy to pass legislation that can be used against citizens of his own country.  Then again, perhaps that is why it makes sense considering his attitude towards the US.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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I find it highly LOL that I keep getting these fundraising emails from Obama in my inbox (I didnt donate in 2008...they got my email probably from the white house website where I've signed at least 8 petitions on various subjects from NDAA to SOPA to Online Poker).

"Hey, I just singed away your civil liberties......can you donate $3?"  I mean, the gall! 

Makes me laugh even more than when I listen to Talib Kweli's song, "Distractions", who say, "The closest I've seen Obama on the trail; is when he sends me stuff that lands in my junk mail"

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 12:29 | Link to Comment Bansters-in-my-...
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Kinda funny (not) that the American Silver Eagle has the word "Liberty" on it...
Fooled ya...
Fool me once,shame on you.
Fool me twice.......
Well,you know.
Keep your eye on the ball,my fellow 0hedgers

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 12:06 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Obama did nothing except sign a piece of illegal paper.

The Executive Branch, nor the Congress has this authority.

The Constitution and BOR"s forbid it.

Therefore, it is no Law.

Any enforcement of this law on Americans on American soil will cause a Civil War,it will start as a guerrilla war,and go exponential from there, the heavier handed they get the worse it will be.

Mark My Words.They are already starting to burn the house down,for other reasons,wait till  innocents are ripped from their homes.

This will not stand, and the people that signed it will hang by a rope before it's over, if it's PUT into practice and arrests (ILLEGAL)are made.

ANY LAW that does not stand the scrutiny of the Constitution, is NO law,as therefore is NOT TO BE OBEYED.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Reptil
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It is illegal, yes. Just like the Lisbon Treaty is just a piece of toilet paper. They'll pretend it's Law though.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Reptil
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I don't trust Rachel Maddow, she's in the loop; if she'd be sincere in rejecting the NDAA, she'd support Ron Paul.

She's part of the system that takes righteous anger, and turns it into whining and inactivity (lamestream media).

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:39 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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Elections make zero difference anymore. The People have lost all control of our country. That is what you get for no term limits, electing the same sons of bitches over and over until they passed control to the Banks and the MIC for reelection dollahs.  

I'm surprised they didn't do this during the BushCo years. I expected it then.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:44 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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The latest NDAA wording formally and greatly expands the so-called “war on terror”, by claiming a US government right to indefinitely imprison without trial any citizen of any nation, any “ person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.”

Clearly, one intent is to threaten imprisonment for anyone who “supports” directly or indirectly, intentionally or unintentionally, any “associated forces” deemed to be “engaged in hostilities” against any apartheid or dictatorial government "partners"..  No trial, no evidence needed, even apparently were some "partner" to precipitate the “hostilities” by aggression. No trial, no evidence needed, even apparently were some "partner" to be a ruthless dictator or drug lord.

What exactly constitutes “substantial support” or “associated forces” to be determined by whatever definition ‘they’ choose, without challenge or appeal.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:39 | Link to Comment WTF_247
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The problem with this law is that people who are taken will be unknown to the public - it will not be announced.  Good luck trying to take it to the Supreme Court for a Contitutional test if there are no "claimants" because they are detained in unknown prisons and not allowed lawyer or even to contact anyone on the outside.

One day you are going to work, then the black vans pull up and you are gone.  You will just be a missing person.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:52 | Link to Comment Ray Bones
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This is what I'm thinking. Obama made some remark about the law enabling him to pick up Americans, but he said he wouldn't do it. But how will we know if he does or not?

Also, WTF with all these clowns who voted for the bill? It literally sailed through both houses of congress. They, or someone in their families could be picked up too. Man, the pooch is definitely screwed now.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:40 | Link to Comment JailBank
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I just took delivery of 1000 .223 NATO rounds over the weekend. So it was nice knowing you ZeroHedge I only hope that I can get internet access in Cuba.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 12:34 | Link to Comment DosZap
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JailBank

I just took delivery of 1000 .223 NATO rounds over the weekend.

Why?, think your taking those to CUBA??...................wasted your $$$.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:35 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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I hate agreeing with Maddow, just like I hate agreeing with Kucinich. Still, there are times when they and I see eye to eye. Despite assurances by some posters that it doesn't really apply to us citizens, I have only to point out that the rule of law meant nothing to the current president when it came to the GM and Chrysler bailouts, or the individual mandates in Obamacare. We have to face the fact that written laws only mean something when TPTB respect and adhere to them. That clearly is no longer the case. When my two senators, one a liberal ex-astronaut and the other the conservative son of Cuban immigrants, both vote for this it means liberty is at an end.

 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:56 | Link to Comment Reptil
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Read up on Kucinich' UFO experience: in short they told him they'd throw him off the bus (despite his wife's connections) if he'd open his mouth about it once more.

Seeing not much political gain, he shut up. These politicians serve a goal, they're like the Reichstag just before Hitler was handed power (no he did NOT win the popular vote). They're the clowns in the rodeo. Distract at the moment the bull (the people) suddenly sees clearly what's going on.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:34 | Link to Comment PulauHantu29
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Ron Paul greeted by overflow crowd first day back in Iowa

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ron-paul-greeted-overflow-crowd-first...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:31 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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They know social unrest is coming.  Either from economic collapse, or outcry to NOT invade Iran, if that time comes. 

That's why for all of the corporate led fascist led legislation.  Since its "the law", dumb Americans (70% of us) will except the rest of us who are smart enough to know the bullshit behind said "law" to comply with them.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Widowmaker
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Q: What incorporated personhood pushed this abortion through?

A: All of them, for YOUR protection.

Lock em up and throw away the key.  Dissent is terrorism and you will be eliminated.  Nothing like arbitrary bullshit from the desert to gut the framework of the US government for incorporated government for profit.

Land of the FREE, home of the _______, which is certainly not the DC central planners for hire Inc.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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not so fast Ilene:

If you also considered the 38-60 amendment vote significant:

ID Crapo, Michael [R]

ID Risch, James [R]

OK Coburn, Thomas [R],

SC DeMint, Jim [R]

UT Lee, Mike [R]

ALL voted AGAINST that amendment http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=1&vote=00210

 So "there you have it".

[ The practice of voting "for" something one time, and "against" it another is prevalent. It allows politicians to claim they are both "in favor of" and "opposed to" depending on the immediate audience]

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 10:25 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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Rest assured,

everything legislated in the US, from the Patriot Act, the various presidential executive orders relating to "terrorism", the "Homeland Security" department, the huge military build-up, the “pre-emptive” and “defensive” wars, up to and including the recent NDAA -

have nothing in common with the actions of the 1930’s German government after their comparable “9/11”.

Reichstag Fire Decree of 1933

§ 1. Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of opinion, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications. Warrants for House searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed.

[Or so we have been told.]

Fri, 03/09/2012 - 07:45 | Link to Comment Colonial Intent
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Tue, 01/03/2012 - 10:10 | Link to Comment cherry picker
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Is that not treasonous, taking the foundation of a country and rendering it worthless?

Isn't that how Adolf got in.  First with charm, speeches, then slowly but surely turning Germany into an insane asylum?

Too many people sacrificed themselves to uphold the Bill of Rights and Constitution and this man who sits on the throne signs it away, just like that with some phony "reservations"

Wait til he gets picked up after he loses the election and vanishes.  He will be sorry he signed them when siting in Gitmo.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 09:52 | Link to Comment Bullwinkle Moose
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The day is coming (maybe sooner than we care to think) that there will be a takeover attempt of our government.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:09 | Link to Comment OpenEyes
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I actually think that played into this whole thing.  The overwhelming 'aye' votes in both the senate and house of something so blatantly un-American, un-constitutional, leads me to believe that those in power know what's about to happen and they are taking these steps to try to insure that they can hold on to power (not to mention saving their own necks).  They know that the shit's about to hit the fan and there will be mucho pissed-off citizens looking for immediate change.  So, they slip in this horrific piece of legislation to allow them to have the military scoop up any and all who might be angry and motivated enough to cause them serious trouble.

A desparate ploy by desparate people.  And an omen that things really are about to move into the end-game.  

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 09:23 | Link to Comment buffettwanab
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 09:50 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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Treason indeed... the top Vid above shows the US President talk out one side of his mouth about the last US President usurping the Law while he then talks out the other side of his mouth (or is it arse?) introducing his even more radical totalitarian powers (inc usurping and absolute contempt for the Geneva Convention)

Sorros, Blankfein and Dimon have found a perfect puppet.. a US President whose only defined ability is to read autocues and with the memory of a Goldfish so he forgets what he just said completely contradicts what he guffs next

it's just amazing where the banksters find these kids

 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment Henry Hub
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I am afraid of what could happen.

Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination and someone in Military Intelligence decides that his plan to bring the troops home and end all the wars constitutes aiding the terrorists. They have him picked up and put in indefinite detention.

This could happen under the new NDAA law.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 09:53 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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let's be clear they could pick up Ron Paul ...and everyone who voted for him!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 09:17 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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True, all true, but at the end of the day, I have trouble believing that a Marxist, Feminist like Ilene will vote for anyone but Scumbama, so what's her point?  Ideas have consequences.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 08:25 | Link to Comment dcb
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everything this man has done was predicted in a bilderberg conspiracy video before he was elected, while clinton was in the race. the crap isn't some fake stuff, it's real. I saw the video taken after the bilderberg conference in virginia. always discounted that sort of thing before. Not anymore.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 08:00 | Link to Comment etresoi
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I find it amusingly ironic that a black politician sets forth policies to eliminate the civil rights of undesirables.

Justice will be served when the Obama daufgters are sent to FEMA camps for crimes they may commit in the future.

As Frank Zappa pointed out in 1966, "it can't happen here" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKITpVovTAE hahaha

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 11:34 | Link to Comment chunga
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Here is an interesting clip of Zappa on CNN "Crossfire" March 28 1986...

Ron Paul and Frank Zappa on the Danger of American Fascism

...and a dash of Zappa guitar porn for good measure. The Master and the Student. Live - with his ever-present Winston.

Frank Zappa & Steve Vai

I remember him going on the Dave Letterman show; walking right past the "NO SMOKING" sign with a cigarette in his mouth then poking the butt out on Letterman's desk.

 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 10:13 | Link to Comment fajensen
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The track record of black political leaders in Africa is pretty much along the same lines, although somewhat lacking in sophistication. Must be either "a black thing" or a "multi-cutural society thing".

Chop-Chop: The sound of a panga-party coming into your home soon.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 07:40 | Link to Comment Kina
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Wow, Obama just stabbed America right through the heart.

Isn't he an expert on constitutional law? Thus is moral crime is worse than any other person in the country. He knows what it is he is doing, how morally filthy it is and how it is the demise of freedom in America.

The first person to be dealt with under this law should be him.

Don't upset JPM, Goldman now...or its disappear forever.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Mareka
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Mike Crapo should not be on this list.

He has co-sponsered the covered bond bill with Bob Corker attepting to allow rolling of credit card debt and auto loans into marketable securities insured by the FDIC.

This bill would give the Treasury Secretary complete authority to determine what debts becomes FDIC insured.

see it here...

 

http://corker.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=News&ContentRecord_id=badf05...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 07:32 | Link to Comment dcb
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wHERE ARE THE PROTESTERS WHEN YOU NEED THEM.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 10:29 | Link to Comment rwe2late
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Protestors?

definitely too few, and much late,

------------------------------------

the draft language of the Montana recall petitions reads:

The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees all U.S citizens:
"a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed..."

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2011 (NDAA 2011) permanently abolishes the Sixth Amendment right to a jury trial, "for the duration of hostilities" in the War on Terror, which was defined by President George W. Bush as "task which does not end" to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001.

Those who voted Aye on December 15th, 2011, Bill of Rights Day, for NDAA 2011 have attempted to grant powers which cannot be granted, which violate both the spirit and the letter of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

The Montana Recall Act stipulates that officials including US senators can only be recalled for physical or mental lack of fitness, incompetence, violation of the oath of office, official misconduct, or conviction of a felony offense. We the undersigned call for a recall election to be held for Senator Max S. Baucus [and Senator Jonathan Tester] and charge that he has violated his oath of office, to protect and defend the United States Constitution.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 07:03 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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on the whim of Stalin, Mao, Hitler off to a concentration camp..

...and now on the whim of a US president too

Gotta love 'democratic' Govt (a monopoly institution of power in society) reaching its authoritaive pedastal end-game

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 06:23 | Link to Comment Pondmaster
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http://www.lawfareblog.com/

 

Much legaleaze  written about NDAA - Only for those with minds deeper than a "Dancing with" I.Q.  

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!