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EAT SHIT you dumb fuck and don't even thing about coming back to the ZH community you prick
repost, my bad
It is incredible that Lewis Powell can post from his grave.
the dynamics are playing and revealing. perhaps the nazi's
and communist party elites are correct. perhaps the corporatist
and oligarchs are correct. the general public is entirely incompetent
and too distracted to enact law. maybe the masses need to be herded
and fleeced, inspected and fumigated for advantage of those doing the
fleecing and fumigating?
democracy and representative governance being just fairy tales and
sweet dreams for sleeping, count your sheep.
it is curious. the bastions of the true believers seeking support
financial from china and iran, ideological anti-thesis. but coins
always have an obverse. so, here we go, again. and the spin relates to
the real world of physics and electrodynamic and gravitational complexity,
haunting the ghost of our reality predicated on study and awareness of
our history and the crime of all humanity. civilization itself as defined
by law and the written word.
Since the beginnings of the Occupy Wall Street movement it has resembled the throng of followers in “Forrest Gump’s” cross country run marathon. Just a bunch of aimless folks with no clear sense of vision jumping on with hopes of it leading somewhere meaningful. Heck, the only one in that chapter that came out ahead was the enterprising chap that capitalized on the “Shit Happens” bumper sticker! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVY8ouWnDyQ&NR=1 Fast forward today, it’s no wonder Obama embraces and with sincere empathy, identifies with the protesters. As neither seemingly communicate a clear message of stated goals or offer concise strategies with realistic prospects of achieving the desired and improved state of affairs. In keeping with pacifying the masses, Obama should immediately seek passage of the “No Crises Left Behind Act”, wherein as follows… 1. All protesters shall be given job classification and become unionized. 2. All protesters shall receive government issued “Mexican Backhoes”, i.e. shovels. 3. Effective upon passage the aforementioned and newly unionized protesters shall commence digging at strategically determined locations until further notified. Reaching the conclusion of this glorious shovel-ready project Obama and his new found friends of distinction can resoundingly chant, ‘can you dig it, baby?’, finally fulfilling the campaign slogan of “Yes We Can!”. And at the risk of being verbose, here’s a blast from the past for all the sheeple out there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhUlP4wiAQo
....the problem with the movement is that it is not hurting the big banks, but rather, it is hurting the small-business owners that are fighting to survive in a recession, says small-business owner Carol Bloom Stevens."
which is exactly Obama's agenda.
So says Google: http://www.google.com/cse?cx=011272781630429997772%3Anyqp33fbnxu&ie=UTF-...
and just for fun...
That article "bad moon rising" that discussed the generational differences in opinion on OWS appears to have more fact to it then I thought. Alot of Boomers think we should all just shut up and take it in the keister for 30 more years like good little tax cattle. Just like you guys did right? People should be more ashamed that they sat around with thier thumbs up thier ass while thier children are being robbed by financial terrorists.
We protested Vietnam and it got us Richard Nixon, Cambodia, and hundreds (maybe thousands) of POWs abandoned at the Paris peace talks. Oh yes, protest is so effective.
The difficulty is finding what works, that is not coopted, that benefits the people AND screws "the man".
The closest things to this I have seen are things like Max Keiser's "Buy silver, bankrupt JP Morgan" and the "national change your bank day". Non-violent, effective, less confrontational.
Add to this, possibilities like
You said it better, clearer, and more succintly than I ever could. My sentiments exactly only they are your sentiments.
@ "Occupy Wall Street: Is It Really The 99%?"
consider the difference between the words...
"is" and "represent" as the word is being used
in this title. do you mean to ask....
" occupy wall street: does it represent the 99% ". it being
the movement or phenomena, ows.
Keiser Report: Cameron & Osborne on the Run (E209)
who has the authority to make law? change law? the 99%?
In my opinion, OWS is just another tool the elite are using to divide and distract the People, inciting them to violence so they can launch their pogrom. The elite know if they do not create the cover of war and chaos to mask their crimes, they will eventully be held accountable. Obama's endorsement of this 'movement' is revealing of it's true intent. Follow the money, the power, the players.
It's threads like this that truly exposes and distinguishes those with intellect and those who are slaves to bias, conditioning and utter stupidity.
Some very salient and relevant opinions from some members, thanks. Revolutions are not pretty or necessarily cohesively implemented and executed but rest assured that's exactly what this is and will continue to become IMHO. There will be widespread violence within 24 months.
Anyone who opines that the current "status quo" can be changed with votes is a blathering fucking imbecile, period. How many state elections have been purposefully "undermined" thanks to Diebold to date for example?
Tyler et al, can you please discontinue posting whatever Econmatters jacks-off all over himself/herself/themselves, it does nothing but cheapen ZH.
Well said. coundn't agree more.
Some pretty good ideas Haole.
Many people greatly underestimate the undelying amger in this Country.
A quite lame Post this one, for sure.
To expect some fully-formed movement in a few weeks is simply illiterate. To miss the potential of this is stunningly naive.
One more major Financial boondoggle in this Country (EU?) and this will go viral...maybe not #OWS but the "next one"; this is the Tip of the Spear, make no mistake.
Constructive change is never the result of anger alone. What positive contribution is OWS making?
If it gets even 1% of people who hear about it to look further into something that they haven't previously known, or cared about, then that is a positive contribution to the education of people the world over.
Purely anecdotal, but the Arab spring piqued an interest in Middle Eastern history, and I learned about topics I'd never even considered prior to that. If it happens to me, then it can happen to someone else too.
People need information and impetus before enacting change, and OWS provides both to others.
I've attended antiwar protests going back decades and I can't honestly say that it ever accomplished a thing other than to give me a chance to let off steam. It seems to me that public protest can only be effective when it's confined to a narrow topic and targets a select group of officials who could lose their seats due to an electoral threat. But asking one party or one branch of government to clamp down on its opposite member is like asking a man to use his right hand to chop off his left.
Right. If you put your blinders on the bogey man will go away. Great plan!
"For example, if not for the OWS[???], it is doubtful the Penn State students would have resorted to rioting over a football coach who probably deserved to be fired in the first place based on reported accounts."
Sorry. This is idiotic. Penn State's problems with pedophilia have nothing to do with general disgust with our bank owned leadership. Penn State students are maybe infuriated that the brand they committed to is now being tarnished forever. I don't think these demographics overlap. Except that the Penn State students, by virtue of losing an important illusion, may develop more in common with OWS, if this starts a process by which they question more assumptions. What's this? OWS pre-crime? Ice Hockey fans riot in Vancouver as the Canucks lose Stanley Cup against Boston Bruins
"Another observation: As part of the 99% "worker bees", it is also very difficult for us to fathom how much free time these protesters ... have".
Time is what you make of it. Do you ever ask yourself? Maybe you should quit your job? Maybe you don't have your priorities identified? You talk about family. What kind of world are you leaving to your offspring?
Well, never mind about that. You just get on that hamster wheel and keep spinning. Who knows, you may even move up a few seats.
You can tell Carol Bloom Stevens that sometimes, the time comes when we all have to endure some hardship.
I think I see a way to transition existing Central Banks (worldwide) from debt based money, to debt free, intrest free money.
Sovereign citizens around the world (Occupy Globally) demand debt free interest free money. Back up that demand with action. Stop using and supporting debt based money. If this is done globally, the debt based money system will end.
Governments respond by nationalizing central banks, and reduce interest rates to zero. (Aren’t we headed there already?) Create money to retire all debt.
We have now transitioned to debt free money for transactions and unit of account.
Preserve your wealth with Gold and Silver.
The term "sovereign citizen" is an oxymoron. ONly suckers and dupes use that term. The gov't is the entity that coined it. hping you go into court looking like a nut by calling yourself 2 contridictory terms.
The term “citizen,” as understood in our law, is precisely analogous to the term “subject” in the common law, and the change of phrases has entirely resulted from the change of government The sovereignty has been changed from one man to a collective body of people, and he who before was a subject of the king is now a citizen of the state. “Citizens,” under our Constitution and laws, means free inhabitants born within the United States or naturalized under the laws of Congress. United States v. Rhodes (U. S.) 27 Fed. Cas. 7S5, 788 (citing 1 Kent, Comm. 292, note
We are simply free men and women. The STATE can not be sovereign under any theory except for a fool's consent. Men and women can not give alligiance to a coporation trust or any other legal fiction. allegiance is between MEN.
First, every subject (as it hath been affirmed by those that argued against the Plaintiff) is presumed by Law to be sworn to the King, which is to his natural person; and likewise the King is sworn to his subjects which oath he taketh in his natural person: for the politique capacity is invisible and immortal; nay, the politique body hath no soul, for it is framed by the policy of man...
A body politique (being invisible) can as a body politique neither make nor take homage: Vide 33 Hen. 8. tit. Fealty, Brook. 5. In fide, in faith or ligeance nothing ought to be feigned, but ought to be ex fide non ficta .
Calvin's Case aka Case of the Post-Nati
Sovereign citizens around the world (Occupy Globally) demand debt free interest free money
Sovereign citizens around the world (Occupy Globally) demand debt free interest free money
The fiat monetary system is providing interest free money. That's the problem! It's why folks can't save for their future and it's what enables the government to steal from the present and future earning of the people.
Hogwash. This is a nonsensical post by someone who is profoundly uninformed or trying to spin. Sounds like the latter to me.
See, for example, Ten Ways the Occupy Movement Changes Everything
This is a global movement that has gone viral. It's not going away anytime soon.
Hope and change are just around the corner.
As the weather gets cold, the OWS movement will need to transition to indoor activities. Here are some suggestions:
Demand debt free money such as HR2290. (Using debt as money is insane.)Stop supporting the system you rebel against.Use Gold and Silver for store of value.
Learn more about the problems and solutions:Bill Still's Money ChangersFOFOA FreeGold
The OWS better come to grips with Jon Corzine and what this well connected democrat did to MF Global. MF Global has comitted the ultimate fraud on customer accounts and has effectively lost their $600 mil. If this is not the rallying cry for OWS they are clearly just a complete waste of time politically. It might then be concluded that this organization is nothing more than the 2012 Obama re-election campaign.
My sense is that this the group's primary mission.
END THE FED.
This article blows. It's written by the same kid who would remind the teacher to assign homework just as the bell rang. It's also written like shit and if I had to guess I would say whoever wrote it probably has parents making over 100k. Probably trying to get hired by Morgan Stanley. I hate the those fucking kids just like I hate Econmatters because I never wanted to homework and I sure as shit don't want to read about how Occupy Wall St. should relent and not draw attention to how utterly FUCKED up and debaucherous our financial system continues to be. What's next? SHould people stop posting anti Wall St exposition on the internet? Maybe I should just say "Hey it's cool that the average CEO makes 240 times what his employees do." Let's just keep our fucking mouths shut and not even give these jerkoffs a hard time. I found the following consumately offensive (moreover there is an issue with the subject verb agreement that even a monkey with wet AMD could spot while rolling a blunt) :"The longer it spread and goes on in a disruptive manner without a clear and definitive mission, and solution, the more likely other parts of the society will start turning against it. Time to regroup before falling flat on its face once the red carpet gets abruptly pulled out.
Why does everyone need thinks to fit into neat consumer friendly packages? THE PROTESTS ARE A LITTLE VAGUE SHUT THE FUCK UP NOW. GO BACK TO YOUR MAC LAPTOP AND LEARN ENGLISH VERB CONJUGATIONS. IF YOU COME UP SHORT ON THE FUCKING RENT JUST CALL MOM DUKE.
Here is what I wish an article might read:
Posing as wealthy arab investors, Occupy Wall St. simultaneously takes over Goldman and CNBC headquarters and is deforming upper managment's genitals with blow-torches and acids. They aren't negotiating but FBI can hear porn soundtracks playing loudly to drown out screams. The assailants are entering all sorts of crazy fucking trades always in lots of 666. Supporters have come to cheer them on and throw eggs at the police waiting anxiously outside. The standoff is tense there could be some casualties and hurt penises.
Reggie, do you think it is ok for the star of a movie to make 240 times what a craft services person makes? Is it ok that Peyton Manning makes 240 times the person in the ticket booth?
Prices are a function of supply and demand. Your perverse sense of morality has nothing to do with it. People deserve to earn what their talents enable them to earn.
If pay scales are to be determined by so-called fairness then you owe a whole lot of money to starving Ethiopian kids.
Just to clarify, were you replying to me or Reggie? Because it looks like it is indented under my comment. My questions of Reggie were an attempt to find out what his beliefs are, I don't think any assumption of my morals could be based on those questions.
I was speaking to you.
Let's try this. Suppose I spend 5 minutes a day sweeping the street and Dr. Jones works 20 hours a day for thirty years discovering a cure for certain types of cancer. Do you seriously believe that I am entitled to earn a set percentage of his earnings based on some "fairness" recipe?
Start here: People own themselves. So far, so good? If you own yourself and you perform labor then the fruits of those labors must belong to you, right?
Now rethink your wage "fairness" doctrine and get back to me.
Really? I ask questions to refine what an Occupy supporter believes and you say I have a perverse sense of morality? Are you familiar with the Socratic method? I am not advocating in favor of wage "fairness" and I have no idea why you assumed I was based on what was written. If Reggie had taken the bait, I would have made a point similar to the one you made. For example, if I have apples, flour and sugar I can make an inedible mess, or through skill, knowledge and work, I can make a tasty apple pie. Should both people receive the same wage? (Double plus bonus points if you know where this example comes from.)
Please excuse my hastiness. I misunderstood your post when I assumed that your questioning of Reggie was actually support for his arguments. My apologies.
DOES IT SEEM LIKE I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF DISPARITY? DO YOU THINK I"M GOING TO THE LATEST BLCOKBUSTER TALKING ABOUT FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA"S VINEYARDS? YOU HINTING AT SOMETHING? DO I NEED TO MENTION EVERY FUCKING INDUSTRY IN LIST FORM (HOW ABOUT IN A MATRIX TO MAXIMIZE ROW AND COLUMN SPACE??) FOR ASSHOLES LIKE YOU TO NOT ASK SNARKY QUESTIONS? SORRY BRO I LEFT SOME SHIT OUT. DON"T TRY TO INFER TOO MUCH. I LOVE HOLLYWOOD. DEFINITELY TRYING TO SUPPORT HOLLYWOOD. PLEASE BUY SOME FUCKING MOVIE TICKETS SO THESE PRODUCERS CAN BUY MORE SUSHI AND BEAMERS!!!!!!!! OH AND IT WAS ME WHO GAVE YOU THE MINUS ONE FEEL FREE TO RECIPROCATE.
No need to be sarcastic, I don't know what you believe, just trying to get you to explain. So what do you feel would be the correct multiplier that the top person vs. lowest person? 10x? 1x?
Reggie, you're a fuckin' idiot! I fire guys like you every day, good luck with your future as I'm fairly 100% certain you'll amount to what your are currently, a big fat ZERO!
You are in your dimwitted parlance "fairly 100% certain" of only the follwing: you GRIN before the DICK goes in your SALIVATING MOUTH. Admittedly, you do seem like an asshole boss type but I would never work for ANYONE EVER ESPECIALLY NOT SOMEONE WITH TATER IN THEIR FUCKING NAME. GO BACK TO THE OZARKS AND FUCK YOUR SISTER , THEN FINGER YOUR BROTHER/COUSIN, THEN MILK THE COWS. NASCAR ISN"T GOING TO LET YOU IN THE PIT CREW TATER BUT IF YOUR DAUGHTER/WIFE/COUSIN (FORGET MULLER"S RATCHET- JUST LOOK AT THE ROYALS) IS FLY I CAN HIT THAT(AND WELL). YOU ARE REALLY PROUD OF THE CAPACITY TO FIRE PEOPLE EVERYDAY WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A PERSONALITY DISORDER AND NO FRIENDS. NO ONE TATER LIKES NOT EVEN ON THE INTERNET. Here is Tater: someone who you give a little bit of power to and he exercises it because he isn't too bright/has a small dick/parents don't love him/believes in god/loves opressing other to feel better about his own insecurties. It's the same with you people. You don't know anything about me and clearly do not have the inferential might to deduce/induce A FUCKING THING ABOUT THE NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN NAMED REGGIE HAMMOND.
Guess I struck a nerve huh Reggie? ALL CAPS EVEN! Yup, no friends, everyone hates me. I'm going to go back to my quarters, sip some very expensive liquor and marvel at the fact that I've earned all that I have, sleep like a baby and pay more in taxes in one month than you make (or will ever make) in a year, same goes to chairty. Neither of these though do I expect you to know or understand little man.
I hope you don't kiss your mother with that mouth Reggie (new sherriff in town) Hammond...I'm still laughing...! Man I love this blog!
MARVEL AT WHAT???? YOUR MICRO PHALLUS? YOU THINK YOU ARE BALLING ON THE INTERNET? TATER? OH YOU PAY TAXES? DAMN SON. SIP THAT EXPENSIVE LIQUOR (THE HALLMARK OF TRUE WEALTH-NOT) HOPEFULLY YOU WILL INTOXICATE YOURSELF AND BLOW A HOLE IN YOUR MONGOLOID FACE CLEANING YOUR GUN. RULE #1.......REAL PLAYERS DON"T TALK SHIT ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY MAKE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET AND REAL PLAYERS DON"T EVEN PAY TAXES. SO YOU ARE EITHER LYING, DELUSIONAL, OR A SUPER REPUBLICAN ASSHOLE COMBO. I REALLY LIKE IT WHEN YOU BRAG ABOUT YOUR RICHES AND CHARITABLE SIDE AFTER TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU LOVE FIRING PEOPLE JUST LIKE A TRUE SOCIOPATH. BUT YOUR HONOR MY SON LIKE ME MOLESTING HIM? SORRY TATER, JURY SAYS YOU ARE FUCKED. WHAT A GREAT GUY. DIPSHITS LIKE YOU EQUATE SOME SENSE OF WORTH, DIGNITY, OR ACCOMPLISHMENT WITH YOUR TAX RETURN SOLEY AND NOT CONTENT OF CHARACTER WHICH TRULY REDEFINES TERMS LIKE SHALLOW/MERCANTILIST/CAVE MAN/SELF AGGRANDIZING TURD. KEEP EARNING COMRADE. I FEEL GREAT KNOWING YOUR TAXES ARE LITERALLY PAYING PEOPLE PROTEST THE INIQUITY YOU DEFEND LIKE A COWARD. CHARITY TO YOU IS PROBABLY NRA, ANTI-ABORTION, OR PRO INCEST. YOU ARE A FUCKING JOKER WHICH SHOULDN"T REALLY DETRACT FROM THE POINT THAT No ONe GIVES A FUCK HOW MUCH YOU MAKE. ARE YOU REALLY TELLING ME ABOUT YOUR PRESONAL FINANCE IN ORDER TO INTIMATE THAT MY PERSPECTIVE IS LESS VALID BECAUSE YOUR NET WORTH IS HIGHER?? REALLY? I KNOW ALOT OF FICH PEOPLE AND NO ONE IS GONNA TYPE IT TO FEEL VALIDATED. THAT'S A PROBLEM COMRADE.THAT EXACT BRAND OF REASONING IS MAKING AMERICA SUCH A SHITTY PLACE TO LIVE. IT"S ZERO HEDGE NOT AN ESTATE PLANNING SESSION SAVE YOUR TAX TALK FOR FAT UNDERAGE TRANNY WHO MIGHT NEED A LOAN FOR GENDER REASSIGNMENT. TATER MAKES ALOT OF MONEY YA DIG? BRAG TO YOUR KINFOLK AND MOLESTATION VICTIMS. IS IT YOUR TAXES YOU PLAY MONTHLY OR CHILD SUPPORT (TATER DONE KNOCKED UP A TRANNY COON AGAIN)?? PAY YOUR TAXES MONTHLY THEN YOU PATHETIC LUMP OF SHIT. I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO KEEP PAYING YOUR TAXES BECAUSE THAT IS OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR IDENTITY. TATER PAY YOUR FUCKING TAXES!!!!!!!!!
So tell me about those pork bellies...
Clean up on aisle 5.
Free world? Yeah, right. The corrupt bankers go free and the cops are free to beat up on protesters and the banks are free to foreclose on homes the "considreation" [contractual term usage] of which consisted of punching in digits in someone's checking account. Let's cut out this free shit and tell it like it is...
It's way past time to give the Zucotti Park crowd a gasoline shower and light a fucking match.
So true Vulture, these guys are like Obama, a bunch of "post turtles". No idea what just happened, no idea how they got their, and the only one's dumber than them are the one's supporting them!
OWS supporters, eat my sack!
Well Econ you certainly have generated some nice traffic. But this will be the last time I read or click on one of your posts.
Say hello to Leo.
when you make a statement like this: " For example, if not for the OWS, it is doubtful the Penn State students would have resorted to rioting over a football coach who probably deserved to be fired in the first place based on reported accounts." you sound stupid. I guess ows is to blame for the riots in chicago after nba championships, etc.
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