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Police Brutalize Peaceful Wall Street Protesters
New York Police Mace, Brutalize and Arrest Peaceful Wall Street Protesters
According to various reports, New York City Police have maced, brutalized and arrested peaceful Wall Street protesters.
Here is a video of peaceful female protesters penned in an orange mesh barricade and then allegedly maced:
Here is a protester getting pinned down with a knee on his throat:
Here is a video of a protester allegedly arrested simply for talking to an officer:
Here is a video of another incident:
There are also reports that the police have confiscated cameras and other reporting equipment, and arrested reporters.
The Wall Street Journal notes that 80 protesters were arrested.
The cover of the New York Daily News reads:
Cops smack down dozens during protests
Its Wail Street
The protesters issued a press release today stating:
A march of about 2,000 citizens marched peacefully demanding that the voice of the 99% be heard. This peaceful march called We Are the 99%, was done in solidarity with the #occupywallstreet movement. The movement is entering its second week
and is gaining momentum both locally and nationally. Many more rallies and escalating actions are planned for the coming week. The occupation will continue indefinitely.The NYPD attacked the crowd of peaceful protesters and conducted mass arrests of marchers near Union Square with orange netting, sweeping up Reports of some injuries.
#OCCUPYWALLSTREET is a people powered movement for democracy that began in America on September 17 with an encampment in the financial district of New York City. Inspired by the Egyptian Tahrir Square uprising and the Spanish acampadas, we vow to end the monied corruption of our democracy.
#occupwallstreet is currently located at Liberty Square, formerly named Zucotti Park.
Here is the Twitter feed for the protest, and here is a livestream:
Watch live streaming video from globalrevolution at livestream.com
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The "government" is a corporation (26 USC 3002). All of the states, municipalities, agencies are also corporations. For profit and with limited liability. The cops are the enforcers of the corporate governments; making sure that that the slaves follow the corporate regulations and have no where to run with their property, except slaves can own no property.
The left-right paradigm is a deceptive distraction to keep the slaves divided and to offer the illusion of choice so that the slaves will continue to believe that they are free.
Can you give a link for 26 USC 3002 or point me in the right direction? I searched around but I'm not finding this code. I went to http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionUScode.action?selectedYearFrom... and looked at Title 26, but can't find a section 3002. Thanks, I'm curious and would like to read the actual text.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sup_01_26.html
seem's there's a gap.
[Ed. http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm looks sufficiently adequate for this venue; right up the alley.]
Thanks! I found it. It's 28 USC 3002, in the section on definitions for Judiciary and Judicial Procedure. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00003002----0...
It says:
(15) ‘‘United States’’ means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States;
or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.
So it's true. The federal government is a corporation. Damn. All these years and I never knew.
And thanks for the article you linked. I knew some of that, but there were a few new tidbits, especially the bit about Federal authority ending at the borders of Washington DC because of the Act of 1871. This government is so illegitimate.
I really like it here because questions such as you ask make me get out of the mud and go search around to show me why I'm thinking incorrectly. Sometimes that works ;-)
Fed. Gov't == Corporation. Next research: Corporation == Person. There was way too much caterwauling about that for it to be wrong, but, the source, the source? Gotta' dig this week.
I've said this following before: "The War of Northern Aggression." was the source. Took me decades to understand that (I'm a Yankee piglet).
Good talkin' to another geek,
- Ned
Ditto Ned, and thanks so much for finding that link.
How can you "take the side" of anything if you haven't spoken with one single one of them personally? Because of a video? You're a schrock of shit!
And you're an anti-American, freedom-hating element.
If you are a sleeper you can go fook yourself. If you are a pig (cop) then you can go fook yourself also. If your not a sleeper or a pig then you are a fooking stooge. What kind of stupid question is this. I see no one here taking sides because of these videos.
For the cop-jock-sniffing gents below, something to consider: We now live in a country where our soldiers fighting in foreign lands demostrate and are held accountable to *much* higher standards of civility and (most importantly) fire discipline than cops here in the good ol' PO-lice states of Uhmurrica are. Any G.I. or Marine scummy enough to mace a penned, obviously unarmed female would have his ass in a sling right quick. And if he were stupid enough to allow it to be filmed, he'd almost certainly be looking at a court-martial. I rather doubt that our brave NYPD "hero", officer mace, will be looking at disciplinary action, don't you? Hell, his boss will probably take him out for drinks. They simply don't give a shit about non-cops, (have you noticed they're now referring to United States citizens as "civilians"?), and they really REALLY don't give a shit what we think of them.
And, since we're not reading reports of cops being hunted down by angry mobs, most folks seem to think that's A-OK. It will be interesting to see how much longer that attitude survives. As has been pointed out, this kind of crap isn't reported much - but the web is FULL of nasty little vignettes like these. For extra credit, google the word "puppycide" someday.
When did "My honor is Loyalty" morph into "To Protect and Serve"? Did I not get that memo??
Citizen = One or more: Connected, Rich, Informant, Carry Permit or better, Protected Witness, Defence contractor. Government Employee, (sometimes includes municipal volunteer).
Civilian = No Record beyond violations, but fair game.
Subject = Has at least an arrest record or is a current suspect.
This is what these term mean in my area. In other places "Civilian" may mean various things up to its older meaning "Not militiary or police with arrest power" ie. even includes legislators and police commissioners.
The pension protectors. Themselves
Three front war big govt unions and wall st
A new standard has emerged when judging police brutallity. The officer shown in this video pushing a woman down a stairway was found innocent of assault charges because of an absence of proof that he "intended" to harm her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixvrMGIPOpk
Call me sexist if you must but I was raised to regard men that abuse women with the utmost disdain.
Her father/brother/husband/friend should "visit" him at his home. If there's no rule of law, we the people must do it ourselves.
Someone released the name of the cop who maced the girls. Though, like you said, he'll probable get pats on the back for it and free drinks from the Wall St. banksters at the bar.
It was that same goon lieutenant cocksucker in the white shirt. You can see him taking the lead in brutality in the videos above.
The wrong way to go about it. 99% of those dimwits there don't understand the problem from a fundamental standpoint.
Pure "tribe mentality" and other social glomming. Those idiots are hollow as human beings.
Don't get me wrong - there is a fundamentally scary situation going on - but it goes way beyond the "enemy" these mobs are attacking. They're going after the "fruit & branches," when they haven't taken the time to go after the "roots."
Attack me all you want. I speak truth - and it today's 15-second attention span, it won't get far. Your own doing.
Don't get me wrong - there is a fundamentally scary situation going on - but it goes way beyond the "enemy" these mobs are attacking. They're going after the "fruit & branches," when they haven't taken the time to go after the "roots."
I wonder how they would be portrayed in the media or treated by the justice system if they went after the roots? They would be labelled terrorists or conspiracy nut jobs. You have to start somewhere.
mister0_1
You don't get it. The system is broken. The protests are a symptom of the broken system. They are part of the creative destruction process. It does not matter what they are protesting.
They are legitimate because they exist. Deal with it.
Self healing systems only appear destructive to those in denial about the disease. Revolution is beautiful. Try not to be part of the cancer that gets cut out.
who is this fucking shill?
yeah you mister
interesting commentary history you have
.gov?
use the track feature on this guy if you will folks...nifty zh feature
The protest was not peaceful, and the cops have my permission to bash heads in.
The protest was not peaceful
Almost none are..."peaceful" is a guise. Protesters often look to incite some physicality to twist into a story of oppression.
I wouldn't underestimate this event, however. Whatever the level of "informed" the protesters may occupy, it takes a lot to organize into something that is tinder-box sensitive. There will be more.
It 'not being peaceful' is the first sign that at least a tiny fraction of the people are finally getting it.
Peace had its chance, in election after election, but now only the blood, brains, and guts of the Wall Street Plutocrats at Lord Blankfein's table, FRBNY, spread in front of 85 Broad will accomplish anything, and for that to happen the protesters must be willing to sacrifice their own freedom, lives, and/or limbs. That's why the protest is a waste of time.
It's why I'm not there. I know that if I take a Wall Street banker's life (or even attempt to) or a corrupt, rotten politiician's and I am found out to have done this heroic act, I will spend a life in prison. I'd rather retain my freedom. At least then I can move out of the United States. If I could find a way to do it as a covert vigilante I'd happily do it tomorrow, and place as many as I can into extinction.
I'm afraid self-sacfrifice is the only prescription that will work and if you personally stand in the way of reform, your life should also be available at great risk.
Time for talk is over. They will only understand violent action taken against them. "Them" does not include law enforcement, only black-hearted, shark-eyed perps.
I agree that the blood needs to be shed at the top of the pyramid. Protests and even revolutions will take thousands of lives but never take us close to the ones who need to be dispatched. I'm not suggesting politicians - I'm thinking of their handlers. Corporate thugs and the elite families who have hijacked the planet. If it could be done covertly, with a message to the rest of their minions, the tide might finally be turned. Otherwise, it's just another disruption with no real support from the people because the people (as demonstrated in this thread) are way too divided and protective of their own ideologies to find a common rallying point. And it works in the elite's favour that we can't get our collective shit together.
We need a movement - a focused, cohesive force - with strong leadership and the cover of anonymity to get the job done. When I say anonymity, I'm not referring to the group called Anonymous. I'm talking of a truly underground movement who does not warn what they are going to do. Instead - their actions are their message. Take a few of the elite and a few selected corporate thugs out of the breeding pool and the message is - we're coming for the rest of you.
We need a coup but not an overthrow of government. We need to topple the tip of the pyramid so that the government will fall back into its role of serving the people.
Granted, anarchy will prevail for a time and the ideological divisions that prevent us now from organizing effectively for a common good will still remain. But, the vipers' nests will be empty and we would be in charge of our own fate, at last. It's either that or we're on the road to serfdom and our future generations are doomed to lives not worth living.
This is the only way I see anything changing. I don't want to see thousands or hundreds of thousands of our best people - our husbands, wives, sons and daughters, lost to a useless revolution while the elite sit back and watch with glee. It's exactly what they want. More "useless eaters" dead and off the planet.
It truly is a case of us or them.
Until that time comes, if it ever comes....
Disobey.
Peace had its chance
Interesting...does peace have a chance to return, perhaps as an end-state? I never thought of peace-unrest as a mutually-exclusive, binary operative.
Yep, dirt-nap is a peaceful end-state.
Of course, there are other definitions of "peace" that might be added to the word, to rather confuse the intended goal.
- Ned
They are NEW YORKERS, not the Amish. So yeah, the protest was not peaceful.
if you show up. if numbers show up.
presence and being is everything.
it is not about personal provocation. avoid all that,
it is all about showing up in numbers.
being there. everything else is interference.
. imo
nothing need be said, raise the dead.
Don't you reside in NYC, bm?
Have you been downtown to lend your presence?
Would like to hear eyewitness reports from known sources.
11b40,
i don't live there but will be going there,
not to sleep, but as a pilgrimage of a sort.
who knows, maybe for a sleepless night?
Gotcha....spent numerous sleepless nights there myself...during the pilgrimages of my youth. Enjoy your trip.
I have to go (note, emphasis is on 'have to') late Oct. If this thing is still going on, which I know is a very long shot, I'll go down and have a look for myself.
Evaluating whether the police or protectors are more at fault is completely missing the relevance of this event. This puts enormous pressure on government and the federal reserve. Politicians always react to this sort of pressure whether we like it or not.
People will be temporarily made happy again with borrowed and printed money. Invest accordingly.
this was nyc this week? it didn't make the local news this week? Haven't seen it in the USA today?
This whole f'n crisis the last 6 years, i will never EVER view things the same....
My daughter learned last week that Andrew Jackson was the worst president in the united state history in middle school......and the people will keep living this illusion until the ball drops in nyc this december
The 8 Worst Presidents Ever
Eight good reasons to keep an eye on the executive branch.
By Tom Head,
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/historyprofiles/tp/Worst-Presidents-Eve...
.
according to this author, #1. andrew JOHNSON. #3. andrew jackson.
but obviously it is just one opinion and not mine.
Love to know what the teacher was telling her that painted Jackson negatively.
He got rid of the 2nd bank that was the Central government bank of its day, and that caused a huge backlash in van Buren's term from the financiers, plunging the nation into a major depression, when van Buren won immediately after Jackson's terms.
But on what other grounds. I'm damned curious about the one POTUS who managed to at least temporarily defeat the Banksters, being branded as the worst.
Don't suppose you could find out why, can you, from your daughter? Maybe correct her impressions? Or at least balance them?
"But on what other grounds. I'm damned curious about the one POTUS who managed to at least temporarily defeat the Banksters, being branded as the worst."
Your answer is self-contained in your question. But as a practical matter, the teacher's contempt for Jackson was probably related to the "Trail of Tears." BTW, trace the origin of the Trail of Tears back to its beginning and you will find gold.
"Trail of Tears." BTW, trace the origin of the Trail of Tears back to its beginning and you will find gold.
Could you elaborate? Jackson is one of my heros, but people are always pointing to this as a stain on his career.
The trail of tears was just a culmination of Jackson's actions against the natives, the story actually goes back much further. Cherokees were allied with the Tories during the revolutionary war. General Andrew Jackson was a slave owner, militia commander, and relentless Indian fighter, who defeated another British-allied tribe (the Upper Creeks during the War of 1812) in the battle of Horseshoe Bend. The Creeks (Muscogees) eventually signed the treaty of Fort Jackson, which ceded to the U.S. several million acres in Alabama and Georgia; land not only of the Upper Creeks but also of the Creeks that fought alongside Jackson. The Cherokees, who, among other tribes, also fought alongside Jackson's forces, claimed a portion of this land as their own, but actually ended up ceding this territory and more in later treaties. The state of Georgia was pushing for the federal government to void any Cherokee land claims, and didn't recognize the Cherokees legally. Around 1828 gold was found in Georgia, and a rush of miners and squatters ensued. Georgia eventually began distributing Cherokee land via lottery. The Supreme Court upheld Cherokee treaties, but Jackson infamously dared them to enforce their decision, and later signed the Indian Removal Act, using US Army troops to forcibly resettle the remnants of several tribes who hadn't already willingly exchanged their lands for grants out of the Louisianna Territories. Eventually a subsidiary of the U.S. Mint was set up in Georgia, the Dahlonega Mint, to take advantage of the output. Incidentally, the debts from the War of 1812 were paid off even before this mint was set up, and for a few years the US operated without any interest bearing debt outstanding whatsoever. In fact, it ran at a surplus and distributed excess funds to the States up until the annexation of Texas and the outbreak of the Mexican War.
Thanks, both of you.
The geniuses writing the history books for schools pair the "trail of tears" with the dismantling of the central bank--clever way to make all young kids hate Andrew Jackson and distrust anyone calling to END THE FED in one fell swoop...this pairing adds to the cognitive dissonance everyone has over Paulson's mandate to "save us all" by not ever letting the banks be, socialized since they needed to be bailed out since they were sacrosanct and we must pay (FOREVER) since the banks are TOOBIGTOFAIL! In the meantime, he let's Lehman go down in lieu of a 6 billion bridge loan, and bank holding status to assure a big win for all the credit defalt swaps on Lehman the he insisted must be paid by the US TREASURY to again, SAVE US ALL FROM THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT...
Meanwhile, if only Andrew Jackson were alive today...may his spirit be with us all, and may RON PAUL get elected US PRESIDENT!
They said that most media is silent on it. And rumors twitter censored trending topic and tweets about it. Though I think JP Morgan has a stake in twitter, so that wouldn't be surprising.
I wouldn't expect this particular protest to last, its a trendy fad for most of those ppl.
But I do expect that we will see many more protests in our near future, and some ppl may be protesting because they really have something to say.
What is ominous is that this is an example of a bunch of kids making noise, who don't have serious cause in mind as to why they are protesting, and they are STILL being met with excessive force by police. In one video you can hear a cop saying "He's still resisting" over and over, while the protester is face down with cop's knee in his back saying "get off me and i'll let you cuff me". Cops are trained to say "Stop resisting" or "He's resisting" because thats all the "just cause" they need to beat you and arrest you. Its dangerous precedent that has been set by cops being able to arrest anyone and say they were arrested for "resisting arrest". How does one get arrested for resisting arrest? You can only resist arrest if you were arrested for another cause in the first place, right?
Back in the day they would identify "agitators" or protest "leaders". A team of four would then approach. Two team members would beat up the "agitator" while the other two would watch their backs...confiscate camera film etc. Then usual charges were: Disorderly conduct, Resisting arrest, and Assaulting an Officer. Your word against four cops in court. If you made noises about civil rights, police brutality or misconduct, excessive force etc. they would prosecute all the charges. Otherwise you got to plead guilty to disorderly conduct, agree not to sue, and pay a fine.
Question - How did change take place years ago? You act as if "Twitter" is the end-all-be-all of communication.
You see, the problem with rapid-fire "instant on" communication like Twiiter & Facebook, etc - is that falshoods can propagate as fast at truth.
In fact, it muddies the waters across the board if you don't properly vet a situation.
Our future looks grim.
misterO_1 "falshoods (sic) can propagate as fast at (sic) truth"
Yes, the government hires both police to arrest protesters & poorly educated people to create media disinformation and fact spinning to maintain control.
Police spend their days arresting protesters instead of Wall Street criminals.
Paid media hacks excrete lies and disinformation through mass media, blogs and website comments.
Generally, government hacks commenting in here can't spell for shit, so they're easy to spot.
What the police & crap commenting paid puppets fail to realize is while they contribute to the sinking of the economic/personal freedoms ship of the masses........
they too live on the ship they are sinking.
yeah good point
Just look at the faces of those cops, they look like they are having orgasms, they pick those mothafukers good for the corps
Heavy overtime at time and a half (plus hazzard pay and shift differential, I would guess) based on seniority. And, like every business I've ever seen, it's the assholes who rise to the "top."
what a bunch of worthless liberals.
what they pay? maybe o-6 pay, shit with that statement maybe im getting ripped off. im the tax payer right? lolololololo
They couldn't at all be outraged taxpayers exercising their First Amendment right to assemble now could they...