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Police Brutalize Peaceful Wall Street Protesters
New York Police Mace, Brutalize and Arrest Peaceful Wall Street Protesters
According to various reports, New York City Police have maced, brutalized and arrested peaceful Wall Street protesters.
Here is a video of peaceful female protesters penned in an orange mesh barricade and then allegedly maced:
Here is a protester getting pinned down with a knee on his throat:
Here is a video of a protester allegedly arrested simply for talking to an officer:
Here is a video of another incident:
There are also reports that the police have confiscated cameras and other reporting equipment, and arrested reporters.
The Wall Street Journal notes that 80 protesters were arrested.
The cover of the New York Daily News reads:
Cops smack down dozens during protests
Its Wail Street
The protesters issued a press release today stating:
A march of about 2,000 citizens marched peacefully demanding that the voice of the 99% be heard. This peaceful march called We Are the 99%, was done in solidarity with the #occupywallstreet movement. The movement is entering its second week
and is gaining momentum both locally and nationally. Many more rallies and escalating actions are planned for the coming week. The occupation will continue indefinitely.The NYPD attacked the crowd of peaceful protesters and conducted mass arrests of marchers near Union Square with orange netting, sweeping up Reports of some injuries.
#OCCUPYWALLSTREET is a people powered movement for democracy that began in America on September 17 with an encampment in the financial district of New York City. Inspired by the Egyptian Tahrir Square uprising and the Spanish acampadas, we vow to end the monied corruption of our democracy.
#occupwallstreet is currently located at Liberty Square, formerly named Zucotti Park.
Here is the Twitter feed for the protest, and here is a livestream:
Watch live streaming video from globalrevolution at livestream.com
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtH7vH4yRcY
You need to re-think that.
The A-A's had the politicians on their side, men who sacrificed their lives for an ideal (or, in King's case, to get more girls). Who among today's protesters would give even an arm a leg, or more than some time?
The masses who lost their means of earning a living, who are going to endure generations, whole lives, of deprivation, a sudden or steady decline into poverty, are not of the caliber to give up their lives or put them at great risk thru peaceful demonstrations.
We'd need another 10 million more in key cities to even begin. I don't know anyone who is yet destitute, desperate, self-sacrificing enough to do it.
Yeah, Orval Faubus, Ross Barnett, and George Wallace were instrumental, fucktard.
....whole lives, of deprivation,
Deprivation? Are you kidding me? Take a look at a few images from the 1930s to see true deprivation. Who is starving? Who is freezing? Protest all you want, but don't compare the unemployed of today with those of 80 years ago. Some of them may be dying of boredom, nothing more.
You haven't the vision to look out two weeks let alone a few years.
Be patient. Everyday brings the classes who pay ALL the bills, the middle classes, closer and closer to the poverty line, and then they will cross into it and they won't have the jobs to pay all the rich and poor.
You ain't seen anything, yet.
tough teaching someone with no vision and no regards for history,,,,,, lolololol welcome to america,,,,,,, fuck:( reality sucks sometimes
why must these protesters resort to disrupting a civil life in the city for?
They cannot attract like minded people to join their cause if they have a hidden protest.
You're the only one that said "hidden," not me. You can organize a gathering in other places, too. Who the hell is milling around Wall Street on a weekend? Do it in Central Park or something.
Think sensibly for a minute. You need mayhem to "attract like-minded people?" Since when was that OK?
Now before you act irrationally (I noticed my negative ratings), look at the videos.
1. They were out of context. Not one video shows the beginning, middle and end. Just a "clip." That leaves the viewer without complete info. The same thing you complain about with big business and government (i.e., "transparency"). That would leave one to believe there was poltical motive behind it. Hypocrisy works both ways.
2. How did this group get their point across with hollering and flash mobs? How would anyone understand thier sound-bites without a more thorough explanation? "I'm angry! Blah!" What are you accomplishing?
It's my opinion that these mobs do more harm than good.
I understand the frustration many people have, but what most of you don't know - is the ridiculous complexity behind the whole situation. It goes way beyond what you *think* you know about it. I don't care whether you think you're a bondafide expert or not. You'd need a white-board the size of Giants Stadium to lay out the players, the dotted lines, and so on.
These social mobs are horrible. Knee-jerk reactions from people who generally are losers. It takes a genuinely smart group to make a difference. This, didn't make a difference.
No red from me but.....
Many smart groups have published their objections for years. They have been mostly ignored.
The system has created many losers and some of those will ask "cui bono?"
I have no idea if this protest is lead by genuine disaffected or is an op designed to draw repression. Either way the days of status quo seem numbered.
Mario Savio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4khZNsudmA&feature=related
"This, didn't make a difference"....YET, Mr. Zero.
You really don't understand the dynamics or the purpose of a protest movement, do you?
When the flash point is reached, no white boards are needed. You think this is a managerial econ class?
The whole point is total disgust with the system and those who make the rules (in their favor, of course).
As a veteran pf the street in both the Civil rights and the anti-war movements of the 60's, all this looks a little lame to me...but the awakening is in it's infancy. Much more is coming.
You really don't understand the dynamics or the purpose of a protest movement, do you?
Protests are almost never for the 'stated' purpose. (Just like environmentalists aren't really concerned about the environment - just a veil for anti-capitalism and resource re-allocation). The true agenda is almost always behind the curtain of the front-running ruse. Protestors are masters of passive antagonization, the purpose of which is to claim tyranny and oppression against the front-running ruse, all the while parading the true agenda under cover.
As you imply, reaching the "flash point" is the goal. Inherently the goal is to demonize any sense of civility and enforcement of law.
So tell us, in one sentence, what the objective of the protesters is? What do they want to specifically achieve, restore, or correct?
1.) Your premise is wrong. The anti-war protests of the 60's were about getting out of Viet Nam. The Civil Rights movement was about....Civil Rights. These protests are about this country's looting by the Wall St. establishment, in collusion with our elected leaders, and enabled by the legal system.
2.) Your attempt to pump all protesters as 'masters of passive antagonization' possibly appeals to your corporate or government sponsors, but it's just silly. If there were a true leadership organization made of "masters", it's been doing a really bad job. Otherwise, why is it taking so long? People should have been in the streets 2 years ago.
3.) One thing in your response is correct...reaching the flash point is the first objective. The goal is long term change in our political and finacial and legal systems. This is just the beginning.
4.) With a moniker as radical as "mayhem corner", you sure do seem to have a vested interest in the status quo.
My "corporate or government sponsors"
First bad assumption. I'm neither corporate nor government sponsored. Self-made and independent of all that stuff. Nice of you to presume what you do not know, however.
The Civil Rights movement was about...Civil Rights.
What does that mean? You are superficial in your understanding of these things. Certain facets of the so-called Civil Rights movements were appropriately targeted at eradicating unjust discrimination. But "civil rights" is a veil for multiculturalism and distorting the pursuit of liberty by asserting "rights" that are in fact infringements.
reaching the flash point is the first objective
As I said, antagonization is the moniker of protestors.
With a moniker as radical as "mayhem corner", you sure do seem to have a vested interest in the status quo.
Wrong read, but that's OK. The name is a twist on Augusta National's 11-12-13 holes. You're view that I'm stuck on the status quo is also misplaced. I'm for a return to unfettered liberty and the actualization of the Constitution the way it was envisioned by the framers. I just believe that pretending to protest peacefully while in fact being passive-aggressive and looking to ignite a "flash point" is a weak attempt at promoting an outcome. I'm not for the bankers or Wall Street theives, but getting out in the street and acting loony is ineffectual.
If the goal is long-term change in the system (I don't disagree with that, by the way), TELL US WHAT THAT CHANGE LOOKS LIKE - WHAT ARE THE FACETS OF THE "NEW" SYSTEM. Otherwise it's just purposeless anarchy, which is what it is right now.
Ah, yes...presumption. The backbone of the boards, and a malady you suffer from as well.
How amazing your powers are, to be able to judge the depths of my understanding of such things as the Civil rights movement. Maybe you want to question my understanding of the anti-war movement, too. Judge away - just know that I was intimately involved with both movements BEFORE earning the moniker that I use here. Like Mayhem Corner, it's meaning is not obvious to the uninitiated...but you can google it.
There are cancers growing within our government and our financial system. Our rights are being stripped away before our very eyes. The 4th Estate had been hijacked and is no longer effective - little more now than a tool of supression employed by corpo-facist elite. How else could this have been going on now for 8 days in NYC and it not be all over the networks and cable stations? If Paris Hilton farts too loud in the middle of the desert, it's on the 6:00 news....but this, mere blocks from the news center of the world, can't even be found on TV.
So, if this is so looney and ineffectual, why the media blackout?
If you believe you can just coast along and somehow the glorious vision of our forefather's will magically appear, well good luck wid dat. Our forefather's would recognize you for the apeaser you seem to be.
Or, maybe I am totally wrong, and you have a grand plan of action. If so, please share it with us.
In the meantime, understand that I am not really in favor of a new system. I love, and believe in, the old system. We just need to hit the re-set button and get back to it. However, there are powerful forces in the way of a re-set. Far too many are enjoying the staus quo with vested interests in making sure the laws really are not enforced as regards them. If you don't recognize that it will be a major struggle to change the direction we are headed in, you are simply naive.
Yep...I'm looking for the flash point. I want this thing to blow up. I want rocks turned over and light shown into the dark shadows of Wall Street.....and Washington....and the Media. (by the way, what happened to the Murdoch scandal?).
This 64 year old man says - let's get it on. FORE!
Tell me again what you expect the end result to be? Otherwise you are nothing but an aimless anarchist. Blow it up - good for you. But unless you can articulate what the end-game is, you're continuing to waste your time. All you're effectively saying is we gotta change this thing! Into what?
If the civil rights movement was so effective, why is that battle still waged? If you're anti-war movement was so effective, why are we still at war (including, officially, with Vietnam)?
You are just an assemblage of carbon occupying space and antagonizing operatives.
Party on, though, Mr. hippie. :D
This isn't just directed at you. It is a shame that you both want the same thing yet can't agree and get sidetracked. Civil rights are better and the Vietnam war did end. Does it mean we will never have these kind of problems again, of course not. Protests and boycotts can have tremedous results. So IMO both of you are right. Just because people are protesting doesn't neccessarily mean they want a new system, but maybe they want to be heard and show that they don't support the free ride the corporations and banks are gettting as well as no accountability. It also doesn't mean that they want anarchy. In your defense boycotts are a way of passive aggressive protest and both methods can work if we have unity, but if we are constantly getting sidetracked on trivial issues then both methods are ineffectual. Liberty requires eternal vigilance.
To bring attention to the patent larceny of corporate socialism writ large on Wall St and knock the blinders off of the people who believe the MSM drivel about recovery and being in a recession and not a depression.
Is that a run on sentence, snowball? I wasn't very good at grammar in grade school, and I just barely made through high school. I think your single sentence ended with Wall St. But typically you leftists like to dominate the conversation with blather.
Don't forget critical thinking. In addition to grammer, that's another thing you probably were not very good at.
My guess is, Schoolyard Bully was your specialty.
I also agree the awakening is in its infancy, but I have seen every attempt at organization against TPTB fail due to all the dirty tricks used to turn us against one another. That's one of the things I like most about ZH: many folks here have figured out the divide and conquer game and are putting aside less important differences to focus on what really matters.
But it makes me wonder: when are we going to see the people who have some money and power - and some real patriotism, not the flag-waving kind - stand up to this enslavement by the banking cartel? The founders of this country were not young kids set out to overturn the status quo. They were wealthy landowners with a vested interest in not seeing the country occupied and taxed into oblivion by a distant power.
If this movement against the bankers is to be effective at all, it can't just be the kids out there. (BTW, thanks for your efforts in the 60s)
You probably would have said the same when the tea was thrown in Boston Harbor.
Okay, I'll word it another way. How will they break the machine if they don't jam up the gears a little?
It's fucking Saturday! What, are they keeping someone from getting to the sports bar? Not like there is a line to get into Harry's Hell, l don't think Harry's is there anymore. There is no one to disrupt in the financial district on Saturday. They are all on Longisland trying to keep Peru at full employment.
As the Middle East embraces their new born Arab Spring,
the USA and also England must face their cold and dark Winter of Discontent.
I got a sneaking suspicion that D. Strauss-Kahn was set up for some reason. However Christine Lagarde is just a US Policy Puppet who really has not got the faintest clue what is going on with the world economy. Ms. Lagarde is censored by the US administration and not allowed to say anything negative about the US Deficit, US Debt or US monetary policy. So all she can do is talk about Europe, and she was just as clueless as the french finance Minister, as she is now as the US IMF stooge. Her fake tan says it all - very accomodative.....
All these clowns will usher in the 21 century Great Depression the World had to have, no matter how much zero ZIRP, inflated LSAP or monetary quantitative easing Geitner asks Bernanke and the IMF or the ECB to conjure up. All they do is throw more fuel onto the raging fire.
Meanwhile England, the USA, Blair and Obama are losing all credibility with the Arab Spring in the Middle East as they follow down the path of a apartheit and totally failed diplomacy and a corrupt and incompetent monetary fiscal policy of beggar thy Neighbour, crossing ever deeper into a dark and cold Winter of Discontent.
wr;)
@Die Weiße Rose. I agree with your sentiments. You're basically right.
I don't want to me Mr. Fact Guy, but England hasn't been a sovereign state since 1542, the country is the 'UK'. (It's like calling Germany 'Prussia' - it's kind-of-right, yet also way off.)
Tony Blair is the Middle East Quartet's current 'Special Envoy' (god knows what powers that vacuous title confers, maybe a frequent flyer scheme with JP Morgan) and hasn't been UK Prime Minister since 2007.
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"I am Mr. Fact Guy."
I got a sneaking suspicion that D. Strauss-Kahn was set up for some reason. However Christine Lagarde is just a US Policy Puppet who really has not got the faintest clue what is going on with the world economy. Ms. Lagarde is censored by the US administration and not allowed to say anything negative about the US Deficit, US Debt or US monetary policy. So all she can do is talk about Europe, and she was just as clueless as the french finance Minister, as she is now as the US IMF stooge. Her fake tan says it all - very accomodative.....
were the complete results of the IMF audit ever released?
"When the final report on the risks of the US financial system is released in 2010 — and it is likely to cause a stir internationally — only one of the people in positions of responsibility today will still be in office: Ben Bernanke."
I have to watch the election from a distance, the Potemkin village that is our political system is no longer funny or charming. Who the next President is, is largely irrelevant. Why such a negative disposition?
Because the IMF is going to subject the databases of major financial institutions in the USA to a stress test. Yeah, oh shit is right.
Whoever the poor bastard is that gets placed into office will have the Mother Of All Fuck Ups to deal with. Two wars, Russia, China, Peak Oil, Global Warming, Food Shortages and . . . A http://business.theage.com.au/imf-finall... "> FAILED STATE .
Still sitting back and waiting for it to be something other than dirty hippies sitting in a park demanding vegan pizza
@ laomei, nice try, friend.
They look like productive citizens to me, not welfare recipients. Even if some are working on their master's degree, taking on debt and living with their parents, what concern is it of mine? Their life choices. If they start demanding I pay their healthcare, tuition, or talk about redistribution, then I will have a problem.
You are a douche who lacks the ability to think critically--these people are fighting the same things most people on ZH complain about, corruption in the market and the absence of rule of law. All you can think of is to call them names.
yea, but they are arguably doing more harm than good with the message
A Tory would have said the same thing about this mob in Boston in 1770.
http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/related/massacre.htm
WTF have you done lately, keyboard king?
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.
Only freedom gives people the impetus to do this sort of thing. The sort of freedom as described by Janis Joplin. Jobless, and with nothing to take from them except their right to move about as they please. That's pretty darn free.
"they are arguably"
You could argue that, but you would be wrong.
The more people who WAKE UP, the better...
lololololololol, now thats funny you need to put in there "eatin pizza"
And so it begins !
NYPD, Nazi/Ameriklan police dogs, bare their bloody fangs to protect the TPTB.
Foot soldiers, paid Mercenaries of TheTribe, who will brutalize, gas and jail their own children to protect their Mafia/Masters criminal profits.
Which Side Are You On?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N43Cm6ra0hY
All You Fascists Bound To Lose!http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=VwcKwGS7OSQ
What, didn't you notice that the last presidential ballot read "Communist Party, Nazi Party, Ron Paul - Tick one only."?
Nazi America --- where the dumbass douchebag cops can't even distinguish the good from the crooks, despite the fraud and corruption. Services like that should be the first thing cut when the books go from black to red.
No one went to jail: http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/fsn2011-0914-1.mp3
yes, but, there are a HUGH variety of types of nazies, so, what kind will we be?
the final solution is the ONLY solution.
http://expose2.wordpress.com
It is not NAZI America. It is the Zionists Occupied America.
Remember Jewish Bolshevik's occupied Russia with GULAG and slaughter of 25% of the Soviet population. Now, it comes to America!
Spare us your ignorant predjudiced bullshit. The Russians oppressed the Jews, Sparky.
The Zionist Jews oppressed the Jews. They are still oppressing the Sephardim.
Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky as well as most of the rest of the Bolshevik leadership were Ashkanazi Jews. They also were instrumental in the Ukranian Holocaust.
"Jewish Bolsheviks Murdered 66 Million In Russia" http://www.rense.com/general77/bols.htm
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=160
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
The henchmen know their union-negotiated paychecks come from the Ponzi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1guK_40omnQ
As things go south, sooner or later these protesters will catch on and covertly arm themselves. Maybe with FNH 57s? At that point the remaining cops on the payroll will have an interesting choice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven
Wow, that was really deep, and moving too...
Speaking of 'moving'...you probably should once in awhile so you don't get a bedsore on that fat ass.
Mayor Bloomberg gave strict orders