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Popular Media Personality: The U.S. Has the Moral Authority to Annihilate Iran Because They’re Evil
Tucker Carlson says that the U.S. has moral authority to annihilate Iran because they’re evil.
What makes Iran evil?
Believe it or not, quite a few evangelical Christians think that all Muslims are evil. And the war on terror has largely been a religious crusade.*
Moreover, there is a widespread myth repeated by American media and politicians that Iran’s President (Ahmadinejad) said that Israel should be “wiped off the map”.
As a New York Times translation notes, Ahmadinejad wasn’t referring to Israel at all, but to the “regime” – i.e. the current political administration - in Israel.
Moreover, it was not Ahmadinejad himself speaking. He was quoting Ayatollah Khomeini, who died in 1989 (and who looked exactly like Sean Connery’s evil twin)
Arash Norouzi – who despises Iran’s current leadership as a “backward regime” – notes:
What did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:
“Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.”
That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word “regime.” pronounced just like the English word with an extra “eh” sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase “rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods” (regime occupying Jerusalem).
So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want “wiped from the map”? The answer is: nothing. That’s because the word “map” was never used. The Persian word for map, “nagsheh” is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase “wipe out” ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran’s president threatened to “wipe Israel off the map.” despite never having uttered the words “map.” “wipe out” or even “Israel.”
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The full quote translated directly to English:
“The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
As the New York Times pointed out
R. Nicholas Burns, the under secretary of state for political affairs, recently: “Given the radical nature of Iran under Ahmadinejad and its stated wish to wipe Israel off the map of the world, it is entirely unconvincing that we could or should live with a nuclear Iran.” But is that what Mr. Ahmadinejad said? And if so, was it a threat of war?
For months, a debate among Iran specialists over both questions has been intensifying. It starts as a dispute over translating Persian but quickly turns on whether the United States (with help from Israel) is doing to Iran what some believe it did to Iraq building a case for military action predicated on a faulty premise. “Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map because no such idiom exists in Persian,” remarked Juan Cole, a Middle East specialist at the University of Michigan and critic of American policy who has argued that the Iranian president was misquoted.
“He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse.” Since Iran has not “attacked another country aggressively for over a century,” he said in an e-mail exchange, “I smell the whiff of war propaganda.”
Jonathan Steele, a columnist for the left-leaning Guardian newspaper in London, recently laid out the case this way:
The Iranian president was quoting an ancient statement by Iran’s first Islamist leader, the late Ayatollah Khomeini, that ‘this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time,’ just as the Shah’s regime in Iran had vanished. He was not making a military threat. He was calling for an end to the occupation of Jerusalem at some point in the future. The ‘page of time’ phrase suggests he did not expect it to happen soon.
In fact, many orthodox Jews are opposed to Zionism. Whether Zionism is a good or bad political movement is open to debate. But Iran’s dislike of the Zionist regime is not the same as calling for Israel to be wiped off the map … in the same way that disliking the Bush administration or the Obama administration is not the same as calling for the destruction of America.
In terms of the U.S. having “moral authority” to annihilate Iran, perhaps Mr. Carlson thinks that America’s overthrow of Iran’s democratically-elected government, backing of Iraq in the war against Iran, and support of terrorist groups trying to overthrow the Iranian government give us the moral authority to continue to attack Iran.
* I am from the Judeo-Christian tradition, and am accepting of both Jews and Christians. Please remember that Christian writer and Army psychiatrist M. Scott Peck explained that there are different stages of spiritual maturity. Fundamentalism – whether it be Muslim, Christian, Jewish or Hindu fundamentalism – is an immature stage of development. Indeed, a a Christian fundamentalist who kills others in the name of religion is much more similar to a Muslim fundamentalist who kills other in the name of his religion than to a Christian who peacefully fights for justice and truth, helps the poor, or serves to bring hope to the downtrodden.
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...did another spawn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbC_571dksE of the Suicide Vampire Squid of the Great Wal Mart of China call for hot coals upon their head or just a whole country?
Eh, would this guy dare to claim that America and the (BP) Anglo Iranian Oil Company effort has an iota of ''moral authority'' for this dipshit to base his foundation upon? Oh I get it, make sure the Islamic freak boys get into power
( from the Shaw Shanker Tanker Redemption, to the Ayatollah Amahdinijahd I play with nukes boy)
...and your own (moral hazard) image will be set in place for you to ''claim the moral high ground'' from the Fed Zero Interest Moral Hazard Black Hole. LMAO.
When it comes to Iran, Israeli British and American interests have ZERO moral authority. The media whore of the Propaganda Pimp appeals to it's own image, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hetaBX00wtI programmed boob tube viewers eating foul zero interest seed, within their bird cage, inside the the inverted gold mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxifgnPnC4E
(who would actually agree with him?)
Could it beeee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Qfbrc1jdo ...the American Laodicean that would dare claim the prophecy to be fulfilled in the area indicates a ''moral authority'' exists in Babylon? Lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Hdt_zWIPI
This is exactly why I shut the TV off years ago and won't have anything to do with its current form of Black Magic. Fuck that...
When are we going to get a Commander and Chief and Congress that will dig for the truth before sending in the troops. And would the military be traitors if they refused to fight another man's war because it had nothing to do with defending America. I don't think so.
Somebody has to have the guts and will to say no, no more of this.
We'll get that when they pass a constitutional ammendment requiring foreign military excursions be fully paid for with revenue, not borrowed money. in other words:"Don't hold your breath".
Turds like Tucker love war and would spend trillons on another disaster. I have posted this list before but here you go again...
Wars Iran has started 0
Shit we started
USA: El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004)...
I'm on your side on this one but one comment. If you use this list of examples of shit we started you could come up with a dozen or more that Iran has started. Stick to the real wars, your point will be better taken. Iran is just like most countries, they also stick their nose in their neighbors business. Lot's of Revolutionary guards playing overseas in the middle east. However, they have NOT started a REAL war and I doubt they ever will.
Right 0. Iran really hasn't been arming and funding attacks vs western interests,
it is all imaginary-Iran is at ZERO, I read it at zerobrains.com.
Because the middle east really hasn't been the most violent place on earth since dirt turned brown.
IT is all those war mongering evil zionistas.
The US invented war.
Yeah but everyone knows that Iranians are evil because they are Muslim. See it speaks for itself, no thinking required. /s
The Iranians are not evil. The Muslim religion is evil. Glad I could help.
Here in the East, we think Christian religion is aggressive and evil for it demands absolute obedience and threaten the non-believers with eternal hell. We like our budda better than your false god. So there.
I bet you dont like the way the Iranians dress neither.
Here in the East, we think Christian religion is aggressive and evil for it demands absolute obedience and threaten the non-believers with eternal hell. We like our budda better than your false god. So there.
I bet you dont like the way the Iranians dress neither.
if you are referring to the zionist/CIA created fundamentalist wahabi strand, then yes, I would agree. but that is not true islam... no more than war mongering and hate of brown people honors the true teachings of christianity...
Got is. Israel created Saudi Arabia. Wow the things you learn here..........
No. I am talking about the core beliefs of Islam. I am talking about what you call, "true islam." There is nothing soft and easy about Christianity, and Islam is entirely incompatible with it. That is my view of course. I cannot know the will of God. However I can read.
ever read the Koran, cover to cover, without preconceived notions of what it means? i seriously doubt it. as long as Americans rely on MSM to explain to them what Islam is about, americans will continue to be lead around by their noses and be useful idiots to the zionist MSM. if you want the truth, you have to get off your asses and learn exactly what the poeple who you perceive to be your enemies are saying... you must get around the filters.
Have you read it cover to cover in Arabic? If so, we can talk. After that we'll discuss the hadiths.
No, and I don't need to. Islam relegates "Jesus" to a prophet status. Jesus Christ was begotten by God and has always been. Again, there is nothing soft or easy about Christianity.
Compare the life and teachings of Christ with those of Muhammad and simply reflect on it. It was not God Muhammad claimed to have heard from in that cave, in my opinion. The fact that hoards of Muslims would be happy to kill me for that opinion is reinforcing. However, as I said, all people are God's children. He desperately wants them to accept Christ's gift of salvation. It is all pretty simple.
Now again, I can't know the will of the real God. But I find the purported connection between the World Council of Churches and Islam "interesting." Illuminati.
Junk away you scared rabbits!
Turds like Tucker love war and would spend trillons on another disaster. I have posted this list before but here you go again...
Wars Iran has started 0
Shit we started
USA: El Salvador (1980), Libya (1981), Sinai (1982), Lebanon (1982 1983), Egypt (1983), Grenada (1983), Honduras (1983), Chad (1983), Persian Gulf (1984), Libya (1986) , Bolivia (1986), Iran (1987), Persian Gulf (1987), Kuwait (1987), Iran (1988), Honduras (1988), Panama (1988), Libya (1989), Panama (1989), Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru (1989), Philippines (1989), Panama (1989-1990), Liberia (1990), Saudi Arabia (1990), Iraq (1991), Zaire (1991), Sierra Leone (1992), Somalia (1992), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1993 to present), Macedonia (1993), Haiti (1994), Macedonia (1994), Bosnia (1995), Liberia (1996), Central African Republic (1996), Albania (1997), Congo/Gabon (1997), Sierra Leon (1997), Cambodia (1997), Iraq (1998), Guinea/Bissau (1998), Kenya/Tanzania (1998 to 1999), Afghanistan/Sudan (1998), Liberia (1998), East Timor (1999), Serbia (1999), Sierra Leon (2000), Yemen (2000), East Timor (2000), Afghanistan (2001 to present), Yemen (2002), Philippines (2002) , Cote d'Ivoire (2002), Iraq (2003 to present), Liberia (2003), Georgia/Djibouti (2003), Haiti (2004)...
Right 0. Iran really hasn't been arming and funding attacks vs western interests,
it is all imaginary-Iran is at ZERO, I read it at zerobrains.com.
Because the middle east really hasn't been the most violent place on earth since dirt turned brown.
IT is all those war mongering evil zionistas.
The US invented war.
Our media is owned by warmonger zionist interests who allow us to argue about gay issues and republicans or democrats. But israel is off limits, Iranians are evil, and anything goes when it comes to translating statements in the new york times.
You mean like the Iranian sweet and innocent angel himself came to Columbia University and said there are no gays in Iran. Yup, he's a man of peace and truth....
So they get a nuke ... The first one, which will be the size of a living room, will be detonated in the desert to put the world on notice. It will take a few more years before they get a reliable, smaller nuke that can actually be delivered somewhat reliably. We probably have quite a bit of breathing room here to consider a measured plan to deal with the threat posed by a nuclear Iran, unless, of course, the accelerated timeline for dealing with this "threat" is to meet other needs .... Whodathunk that?
Not exactly...60 years worth of improvements, refinements...you don't think the russians, the chinese or the Pakistanis couldn't have given them plans to something a little smaller or a little more user friendly?
I don't know whether they have a bomb or not....but it isn't like they have to start from scratch....
Yeah, that's why the first one will be the size of a room and not a house. Ever wonder why we didn't go ape-shit when Pakistan got the bomb?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L2Gve7oh_4
Who is this Tucker Carlson, again?
He's a nobody that GW used to get to the real point of his story which is apologizing and justifying for Iranian fanatics.
Bill Hicks is rolling in his grave over the presence of these fevered egos. A truly fair world would put people like this in one room, where they would have to individually duke it out with their loudmouth counterparts in said overseas country. This main event would be worth seeing, and I would pay alot because then you would get to see if they really have the brass tax to match their words. My guess is that this would be a comedic event of epic proportions, and they would be hurled into the dustbin of history where they deserve to be.
Make it a Pay Per View to fund world peace and to illustrate the propaganda as the absurd, farcical WWF that it is
Drones, the ultimate terror machine for now, until we develope somthing more deadly.
No problem. AI drones. No need to get a pilot involved. How much more American can you get.
Don't they still have some of those neutron bombs left lying around? May as well just get it over with.
Whoever is warmongering and not in the army should be kicked in the nuts till they shut the hell up.
from what I can tell, many of the real military guys are dead against more wars. they know the truth want this shit to end. the suicide rate in the military is very telling. and of course the goverment throws them away like so much trash when they are finished with their military service.
Achmed you really get around.
Two weeks ago speaking for the Hamas people,
last week speaking for the Iranian people,
this week for the American military man.
What's next, you going to be speaking for me?
Some existence projecting your own bullshit on the world and then proclaiming said bullshitis what is.
Aslam Alekem
There's really only one country that wants to incinerate Iran. How about we let both of them duke it out. At least it would end this constant nagging and begging for another war costing us blood and treasure for nothing but more enemies we never had before. And costing the naggers and their DC concubines nothing while giving them access to more loot.
We're already the big doofs involved in two major wars for nothing of any benefit to America. We are being destroyed internally by embezzlers and our armed services are being liquidated by cowards who are using them like marauders and pirates.
I say bring them home and let them seal off, invade, and occupy DC, and round up the real terrorists. Now that's a home game I would pay to watch.
Any nation that wants to pick fights with another nation should go do it themselves or stfu.
It's really said that on this topic you, Profewssor 'GeorgeWashington" is...well.... dead wrong!
The Ahmadinejan's 'regime change" statement for Israel doesn't mean what we in the West associate with such statement: a removal of one government in favor of another. What Iran means is removal of Jewish-led governement and replacing it with a Muslim (not necessarily Palastinian) with a necessaryprecondition that Israel de facto ceases to be a Jewish state.
So, of course Iran doesn't think the war is the only option. Of course they'd prefer that Jews would just get up and leave like they did in 1930s Europe.
The bottom line is this: do you think Jews have a right to have a state in the middle east? If so, then Iran's statements are incompatible with that notion.
Do you think Jews have a right to have an apartheid state in the middle east that precludes the rights of citizenship and confiscates the land and water, of people who have occupied the region for centuries?
Of course he does.
The joos committed genocide when they first left egypt and claimed the land of others for themselves.
They did it again this last century. After all they are the master race, the chosen people. Why god himself said so!
Hugo,
Obviously you're correct. The green arrows tell me so. The jews committed genocide against whom?
Lots of people have lots of notions that are stupid and harmful. That doesn't mean we should nuke them. Nor does it mean we should slaughter ten thousands of people living in the proximity... not to mention thousands of our neighbors who would be ripped apart in the process.
We are the only country that doesn't seek hegemony, did I hear that right? Are you fucking kidding me? BTW, has this pussy ever even picked up a gun? My sister could kick his ass yet he talks a lot of shit.
Nice to see those radical judeo-christians rioting and killing folks over the burning of a bible.
Oh that is the radical afghan muzzie doing that? It is so easy to confuse them when one reads the tripe of George.
Aslam Alekem.
Yeah, and what's next, the killing of a bunch more Coptic Christians in Egypt? The burning of some churches in Nigeria (I believe on Christmas Day)? Perhaps for a little excitement, let's try taking a Bible into Saudi Arabia, just to see what happens.
Super sharp point.
I'll go torch a 100 bibles in the bible belt,
if you'll go burn 100 korans in muzzieland.
Afterall everyone is the same, the intolerance and oppression is the same everywhere.
You dumb fuck, you really think it's only about the burning of the Korans? That's just a catalyst. There is some much built-up anger in that country after decades of occupation (us being the latest occupiers) that the final blow was dealt.
Decades or centuries, Neville Chaimberlin? These people have had excuses for hundreds of years to fight Christian infidels. Just because you want to pick 1949 as the starting date doesn't mean they do.
Theories are fine, but you don't KNOW anything about this until you spend some time over there.
No, instead let the muzzies ferget the commandments and follow the rule of liberty and law, like the good 'ol, free-trade, un-warlike, social christian freedom-loving (greeks). One plank at a time, eh.
Of course it is a just a catalyst.
Walk down Main St, Teheran with an anti mohammed sign.
Teach us the tolerance of the most oppressive intolerant people on the planet.