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They're NOT Zionists. Zion is the kingdom of G-d. They're Luciferians. Lucifer, and the rest of the fallen, have ZERO creativity. They copycat and distort. The reason they hate us so much is that G-d gave us His ultimate gift. The gift only He can give. The gift of creativity. The angels weren't created in His image. They weren't given the gift of creativity.
why indeed.. "it is the question that drives us", lol! i randomly came across a wtc7 video 2 years ago, my life has not been the same since, and oh, how much i have learned..
kicked started a couple wars, a boatload of new police powers for the state.... trillions of dollars of spending for the military industrial complex... and it goes on.
I'll tell you what I see. I see a Hell of a lot of people who just need to STFU and eat their peas.
Mmmmm.... whirled peas....
All three buildings were wired. There was probably another plane that was supposed to bring down building 7 but for some reason didn't make it to NY. It might have been the plane that went down (was shot down?) in Pennsylvania. The nanothermite in the dust is the absolute proof anyone would need to say that the buildings were professional demolished.
wtc-7 was brought down by wonder womans invisable plane and everyone knows it!
dont pretend you dont know what happened!
This is the same as the moon landing hoax crap.
For a conspiracy like this, many people would have been involved. By now, someone's conscience would have been stirred to bring out the truth - where is the smokling gun? Just as the moon landing doubters have had their day and fizzled out, WTC7 conspirators will go the same route. All you have is conjecture, out-of-context quotes, and so-called experts. Mr. Gage plays everyone for a chump by not mentioning the main difference between the WTC towers and other modern skyscrapers - trussed floor panels and a shell structure with most of the columns moved to the outer walls.
All you have is conjecture, out-of-context quotes, and so-called experts.
..and my own lying eyes! You cannot watch the destruction of WTC7 and think that is a building colapsing naturally from structural damage to one part of it. It makes my blood boil and I'm not even American. I guess that's a truely global lie. The ultimate globalisation.
I doubt anyone's conscience will be stirred until they're on their death bed. This is not the sort of crime you fess up to and ask for forgiveness.
I'll try to be civil since we both post on TF a lot... Could we please dispense with the fucking straw man arguments? Y is the same as X. Y is untrue so supporting X must be untrue. We're not talking about the mother fucking moon landing!
Thousands of architects, engineers, and scientists have put their reputations and careers on the line to come out against the official kool-aid, that you seem to lap up so willingly.
While we're on the issue of straw men, I can't help but think of the middle aged woman who remarries to a wonderful man. She is happily married, even though the new husband spends 2 hours every night in her 13 year old daughters room. Her daughter becomes more withdrawn and quiet, stays away from home more and more... but hey, sometimes its easier to bury your head in the sand.
So what?Try to grasp this concept: Just because an architect, engineer, and scientist says something, does not make it so, NOR does it make it more 'truthful' than what I argue. Third or fourth time in this comment thread of the appearance of Appeal to Authority. You are arguing by the assertion that many 'scientists' disagree with me, therefore I am wrong. You guys really are not too bright. Scientific Consensus is not scientific proof, and science has been wrong on everything at one time or another.
L'arnaquer.
Don't care about the experts? Ok, fine. How about eyewitness testimony from employees inside the building, hearing explosions, countdown on the radio of wtc7 demolition. Barry Jennings had a lot to say about his hour and a half stranded in building 7 with Mr Hess. Hmm, seems Barry died of "undisclosed causes" 2 days before the NIST final report came out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y57qHmViTOg
Why is Mr Hess alive and Barry isn't??? Hey check out the Giuliani Partners website, there's Mr Hess and his son listed under executives.
http://www.giulianipartners.com/executives.aspx
http://jenningsmystery.com/
I have a feeling you really do know the truth. In that case your an accessory after the fact to the murder of 3,000 people. Congratulations.
PS- Appeal to authority is a key component to winning a court case. Bring in the experts for their opinion, check. Bring in the eyewitnesses for their testimony, check. Bring out the accused (gubmint) and their official version of events, check. 6 out of 10 on the commission weren't to impressed with the investigation.
It's amazing how brazen these assholes are. CD a building/buildings in front of millions of eyeball witnesses and expect to get away with it forever?
cpnscarlet
So you believe that WTC7 collapsed in 7 seconds because of "office funiture" catching fire?
Carry on idiot.
http://www.fatineepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DumbDD.jpg
False premise!
If you've ever spent time in the upper echelons of the military and Government, you would understand that everything is compartmentalized . The term "on a need to know basis" is not a phrase limited to Hollywood movie scripts. A few Key individuals is all it takes.
Also, Understand that 911 was not an "inside Job" per say. We were indeed attacked by a foreign Country but it's not any of the countries you're thinking of.
perhaps. But, for example, do we really know what all happened to JFK and why? Plus, only a small number of key players would really have to know in detail about it, and there are ways of keeping others quiet, or at least if you can't, you make them out to be a nut job.
Ever...
Heard ...
of ...
Van Allen Radiation Belt
Funny how hoax believers acknowledge that Van Allen discovered the belts, but ignore him when he says that passing through them would be lethal.
No joke.
I was with my family at Kennedy Space center not to long ago.
Our first impression:
"These rockets are pretty small".
They're really small.
Luckely we were save.
I did get a pat down.
Answer on; why?:
-I was on .gov property.
...that's how the story is, juno.
Hmmmmm cpnscarlet, have you looked at the building plans...? Please read and learn then draw your conclusions. Spend some time... it will change your thinking.
Thank you G.W.
Be careful out there.
God Bless.
Thanks GW... I find it amazing that people believe what's been told when all they have to do is look and read. The evidence is abundant.
The best evidence I have was watching Bush when he was told the country was under attack. Anyone who see his reaction knows he knew.
See you on the other side my friend!
the video abnormalaties are too numerous to go into. a good video summary at www.septemberclues.info. my favorite is how the planes "melt" into the buildings. what did goebbels say about the size of the lie?
Yes, I think so. But my take was that he was briefed sometime early on after being sworn in that something like this could happen some day. Then, it does happen, and he's all deer in the headlights and like, 'aw fer fucks sake, they went ahead and did it, now I gotta lie may ass off '. Over the last 8 or 10 years I've wised up enough to know our presidents since the 80's?, 70's?, 60'? (you pick the starting point) are for the most part nothing but sock puppets for the uber wealth powers that be. Bush certainly didn't benefit from it and the war thet ensued....is still ensuing actually, so who really were the biggest beneficiaries of 9/11 and Iraq,Afghanistan, Libya, etc?
OMG!!! Bush's whole family is DEEPLY involved in the efforts to create a New World Order (global government)! They have promoted a NWO in their own speeches! Those are hard facts! You need some more info before you comment on Bush, etc.
For a quick primer, go to: nwosurvivalguide.com You will find ample evidence in the way of quotes as to what the elites are up to...
Kennedy was the last one who truly bucked TPTB, and we all know how that turned out for him....and his brother.
Johnson was a well-connected insider with his own moral code, but we may never come to know exactly why he quit in 1968.
Nixon, on the other hand, was largely void of morality. He, along with that old war criminal Kissenger and their verson of Real-Politik, was eager to take his marching orders and change the world as we know it - for the benefit of the few.
Carter may have been another one who was not getting along too well with the Masters of the Universe. You know, with that silly Sundy School teacher idea that there might be yet an even higher power. Not the tool the Masters wanted
Reagan was a GE shill starting in the 50's - groomed and polished for over 2 decades of training and indoctrination. He was the greatest possible wet dream for the Bankers and multi-national corporate looters. Under Reagan, divide & conqueor went into overdrive as he used social issues to bring the holy-rollers into the camp of the Bilderbergers.
Bush 1 --- former director of the CIA. 'Nuff said.
Regardless of your opinion of him, I believe Clinton threw the Wizards a curve ball when he was elected. No way they expected this kid from Arkansas to beat daddy Bush, and look how hard and fast the big guns went after him. It was a lot harder to rig elections back then, in the age before Diebold. By the time he left office, however, it seems that he had been re-educated. After all, it is his signatue on the legislation repealing Glass-Stegall during his last month in office...plus a lesser know piece of legislation that re-wrote the rules for commodity options trading. At that time, oil was tradingfor about $25/barrel.
Then came Bush 2. Truly, has there ever been a President who did more to wreck America? He finished nailing our colective coffin shut.
Now we have Obummer. The telepromter in chief. The blank slate, with no record of real world acheivement. I fear he is the funerial director.
Great description of our recent presidents. I especially liked the one on Reagan. Speaking of GWB's intelligence level, when he went to Phillips Andover, a math teacher who failed him was forced to raise his grade when GW's daddy intervened, so that he could get into Yale. That math teacher is responsible for the war in Iraq and the death of 1 million people.
Some say Bush is smart... I am from Texas and I never thought so. I went to UT and I'd bet he would have been a good old boy to drink with and chase the girls but dummer than a box of rocks compared to Cheney or Papa Bush. Sock puppet for sure but well aware of needing a new Pearl Harbor to go into Afghanistan and Iraq.
Who benefited? Hmmmm many multinational corporations like Haliburton, KBR, L3 and Parsons to name a few. Any corporation supplying the MIC.
There are 7 ME countries that TPTB want regime change: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen and Iran. Count how many of these the US is involved in? Watch what happens soon in Syria.
I can figure out all of them except Yemen...why Yemen?
Yemen? Look at a map of Yemen and the pinch point between it and Djabouti, Africa. Shiping lanes going from the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden are at risk. Much like the UAE pinch point across from Iran. Shutting down either sends oil prices much higher.
Also has much to do with each country's ruling class and if they are in favor with the Elites who hold the purse strings. Gaddafi in Libya was playing ball for a time until he decided to go towards gold as a currency for light sweet crude trade. Italy, a NATO country, gets much of its oil from Libya.
can we hang these fuckers yet?
i mean really?
lobby / bribed whores..
who have brought the United States ARMY back to keep control over the people of the Untied States..
how much info is enough?
when will the sheep wake the fuck up?
when will there be enough of us to get rid of these scum bag washington dc beltway gang lying lobby whore? who Murdered Americans!!
when is enough, enough?
I am ready.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/194764.html
Sailing for publicity against Israeli crimes is becoming more common. Most recently, a retired American professor has sailed across the Atlantic Ocean from his home in Texas to the Mediterranean in memory of the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty by Israeli forces, resulting in the deaths of dozens of Americans.
9/11 is NOTHING NEW!!
Our Government has Murdered Hero's, MANY Before!!
Wow. That was a very interesting presentation.
My problem with it is the way it's ambiguous about whether it's talking about just building 7 or also the two world trade towers. I hated that. It really opened my eyes about WTC 7. But then the presentation continues and there are multiple instances of the presentation implying that the shenanigans undertaken on WTC 7 were also the case with the two world trade towers without them ever quite coming out and saying so clearly. I hate that ambiguity. I especially hate it when it follows a very good presentation about WTC 7 and a call for rigorously following the evidence on WTC 7.
The lucid authority of calling for following the evidence is somewhat given away when you vaguely imply things and let people infer things on that basis.
Very good and very interesting, but for god's sake, decide what the hell you're going to say and what the hell you're going to claim and do it! Don't say X and be vague enough about it that Y is also inferred.
If you understand bldg 7, then you can use your noodle and figure out the others. this site is taking a huge risk to post this, as it is "unAmerican" to question 9/11. i applaud their bravery!
Go to 911truth.org if you want extensive research on all things 9-11.
fred, watch the video 'blueprint for truth' by ae911truth, it goes into the main towers.. if you thought this was a good present, wait until you see that one..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVCj7q49o
I just watched it. Um . . wow. I'm a ridiculously analytical person at times. I'm an engineer. In our office when a crucial letter or document is going to go out and we have to be sure about it, they give it to me and let me see if there's any way to tear it apart, any loose edges. I see a couple loose edges in that presentation but nothing which discounts the greater thesis which is essentially a negative one, that the official story is a load of shit. You don't have to have a 100.00% complete competing thesis of your own to show that an official story is a piece of shit.
I've never taken this theory seriously before because, frankly, the people I've seen expounding it were usually hysterical and they were often nitwit leftists. That's not to say that anyone and everyone on the left is a nitwit. I'm a libertarian by the way. I think there are nitwits on the right and nitwit libertarians, too. But the few people you ever heard expounding this theory seemed, almost invariably, to go off on some Bushitler rant from it. Frankly, if there was a conspiracy to do it, the chance that it went up to Bush was 0.00%.
Anyway, this was a tremendous eye opener. Thank you. The parts of the presentation showing the cascading explosions down the side of the WTC towers *ahead* of the collapse and the impossibility of the physics and momentum to account for things in the manner of the official story are very powerful. I still remember in the minutes after being told the towers had fallen telling someone, probably with a dismissive shake of the head, that that was impossible, that a plane impact and some fire can't take those buildings down. But I'm not a structural engineer and there was too much to digest. I didn't question it very long and accepted the ubiquitous and unvarying official story.
I thought I distrusted my government and those in it before. Now . .
Those were my thoughts as well.
Please research at ae911truth.org. This video was kept short and focused. When you begin to read and look you will satisfy your curiosity and then you will wonder why we cannot investigate. That's when the madness of all this sets in......
GW... is it better to live inside or outside the evil empire?
the empire covers most of the earth. those countries currently not under control, are being slowly surrounded.... (Iran).
Nobody trusts our government anymore. Nobody. All's they have left is the fascist media to pretend nothing is wrong but nobody trusts them either. In America you have to survive buy reading between the lines. This country is a police state waiting to flex it's muscles. Historians will talk about what really happened 100 years from now like it was common knowledge but the tragedy is everyone here is not allowed to speak the truth. They will marvel at us 100 years from now.
Plenty of people still trust the government. I worked for public "education," I know.
ok, I'll bite George, who dropped it and why?
pe, better to first convince yourself of the evidence of controlled demolition.. only when you are convinced that there is no other way to explain the evidence do the answers to "who and why" become plausible... or put a different way, the "who and why" become less important, in that who is "somebody who had the power and means" and why is, well, the rabbit hole that you will not jump down unless you are convinced of the facts..
Ask yourself what changed because of 911 and who benefited?
I do ask, and still dont really know, other than the military-industrial complex, so fill me in. Please don't try to tell me it was Bush. That yahoo has been the made the most despised president ever, which ain't easy with guys like Nixon, Carter, and Obama out there. I still hold out hope for Obama, he has potential, he's well on his way to being a major fuck up and despised prez. The only person I can be sure didn't benefit from it is me I guess.
go back to huffington and finger paint with the rest of the shallow end.. oops I mean special kids.
when you have 2,000 fucking engineers who say BULLSHIT! and then sign it putting thier ability to work on the line? how they feed their families?
but Geroge needs to tell you why?
really?
people like you are the problem, Bush was elected by people like you and it is ALL YOUR FAULT STUPID!
HAHAHA, I guess we can't all be geniuses like you obviously are JW, and eloquent to boot. Stay on those meds though..............
Well if you are really serious... the short answer is the most wealthy. You may call them the Elites.
I usually explain this by mentioning if you and I had more money than we could ever spend would we want to change the world. Yes.
We would influence what we could, not always winning but changing the status quo for sure. If we wanted things to go our way we would have to address all the different cultures and standards of living. Raising some and lowering others until we reached some order of parity.
What's funny is all Elites don't get along. Greedy bunch they are. Politicians at all levels are beholden to those funding their elections. If I gave you $100,000 today would you not do me a favor?
Truely a President does not get elected without massive funding. You should look and see which corporations were the top contributors to Obama's campaign. Then think about how the TARP money was spent and draw your own conclusion about Obama.
Peace!
Thats's exactly right, that's the answer I was looking for. The uber wealthy fund all these guys campaigns and then we're shocked when they throw all the dough and more back at them, while talking up soak the rich schemes. We have a tax code that's a foot thick. Are all those laws and loopholes in there to save the middle class money? Hell no, it's to minimize what the wealthy pay.
It also explains why the last several presidents have basically been sock puppets of these guys (shhhh, don't tell JW that - he seems to still think BO is a good guy, or Bush started all this, or something) and the only two candidates put up are their horses - can't lose if you own all the horses in the race.
Peace.
at least two classes of people in this world, the elites (and those who knowingly serve them) and the rest of us who think we know what is happening, but are so lost in the matrix that we can't realize that most of what we see is not true or not real. but as morpheus so correctly notes, you can't tell someone what the matrix is, they have to see it for themselves.