For most cases, it appears culture has historically been a bitch. But regarding the inet, it appears it can also be on your side when somethings rise was based on ideals that are totally alien to common culture.
Yeah, they managed to subdue it's origins.... yet it just doesn't want to "die already". Like a hydra.... chop off 12 of the 16 heads, and the remaining 4 ones just stubbornly refuse to obey the new agenda.
(will go into more detail, if you request so. After all, there is something VERY special and groundbreaking about the inet.... and it has less to do with tech, but more to do with how humans use it.... in a way, that is completely incompatible with "real-world" culture and morals.... a "way" that offers a (seemingly) risk-free alternate personality, outside of one's own established "real-life" - call cypher to deliver his punchline (If the so called "real-life" sucks, and i'm not willing/able to change it on my own, then how about i get a 2nd chance, not inhibited by my usual environment?). THIS is he criticial mass out of which the inet did become public.... and the origin, which certian major players want you to forget, yet failed to do so completely:
The popular inet originated neither out of the current cultural doctrines, nor out of anonymity: it originated out of sacred pseudonomity... an alternative, to the "real world" and culture).
First, as a Bruins fan, Tim Thomas is a great goalie.
But this was just not right, for the sake of the team. He didn't even use it to promote whatever legislation pissed him off; just the same corporatist right wing propaganda we hear from hacks like Peter Schifff.
But part of that is misinformation. I think the guy, like most others, gives way too much credit to how much power the actual president has in policy. Presidents haven't really mattered since JFK. The only people who really change and form the legislation and lack of (impactful) regulation are the multinational corporations that Congress works for (and hold stocks in) and of course, the Board of the Federal Reserve. Ben Bernanke has more power than Obama; Obama can't start wars if he doesnt have the money.
Thomas also missed an opportunity to actually have a chance to talk with the Preisdent; I am sure as a million dollar athlete, he has more of a chance to actually get the guy's ear for 5 minutes on whatever than I ever will. Even in a election year. He could of picked a subject and expressed his views in a handshake. Of course, Obama could have shrugged him off ala the Occupy protesters in NH, but I disgress.
However, Tim is from Michigan. There is a HUGE sovereign anti-government faction out there; the type of guys who refuse to pay taxes, get a Driver's License, and own as many guns as they like (parts of which I agree with).
Sounds Like President Obama's advisor Jeffrey Immelt and his company, GE!
Seriously though, during those media spots, they aren't really accorded any time to speak with the president, so one has to truly doubt there would have been any face time.
The president, and his cabinet appointments only matter as to who they appoint.
Since Obama has an established record for appointing a 100% neocon administration, and since Hillary Clinton has likewise appointed former neocons (including GW Bush inner circle guy, and former #3 at State under Bush, and the swine who outed Valerie Plame, Marc Grossman -- also implicated in the selling of nuclear secrets to foreign governments and the shadow arms market), they do have much to answer for.
If you don't realize that Obama appointee, Neal Wolin, was responsible for the language in the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (repeal of Glass-Steagall), and you are unaware of his appointments of the number one jobs offshoring evanelist in America (Diana Farrell), the number two actual jobs offshorer, GE's Jeffrey Immelt, and #3 jobs offshoring evangelist (going back to Reagan's administration, Jim Kolbe), then you simply haven't been paying attention.
Also, you may recall that during the Bush administration, they cooked that Iraqi WMD intelligence data to "allow" themselves the excuse for their illegal invasion of Iraq, then you should also realize that Obama has cooked the IAEA's Iran Nuclear Assessment Report along the same lines (and since both the American government, and the EU, have illegally frozen Iranian Central Bank's assets --- under international law, that is -- this constitutes an official act of war against Iran by the American government and the Obama Administration.
Therre were no excuses for the Bush crime family, and there are no excuses for Obama and his crew!
"Thomas also missed an opportunity to actually have a chance to talk with the Preisdent"
Beer summit, part deux? I don't think Barry can hang with a hockey guy for drinkin'. TT would insist on sitting on the south lawn with a quarter barrel and a tap...each.
but TT didn't "act stupidly". Also Our Dear President had all kinds of time to know how he got there. "I don't know the facts of the matter" only happens wrt the Cambridge PD.
TT would know where to find a brew; he sat down tonite,
You know what, in desperate times, some things are more important than worrying about what the team thinks. People who are in a position to deliver a message always carry a burden. What he did was not about ego, although I see the sports MSM are seeing it differently.
Having said that, I'm sure he explained himself adequately to his team mates. Moreover his statement is on the NHL web site. So he must have explained it too others as well. I'm sure that required some character as well.
All credit to Tim Thomas. His statement wasn't partisan. He had the balls to say what so many of us know to be true (and true in more countries than just the US).
tt refused to lend his fame to a political
event, this is out of order and divisive to
the hero following herd mentality that is at
the root of this ancient technique of social
control, talent and quality lent out to give
credence in a social manner to anti social
policies and controls. conformity challenged !
next thing you know he will refuse to do
cola commercials! we can't have that.
he is opting out of the cult of personality
status sharing with the political establishment.
is that so bad? will he lend his status to some
other political figure? will he reject the entire
concept of mass mind modulation through fame and
the group tendency to be open to those manipulations?
and so what? what would Joseph Goebbels say?
goebbels would have him punished for his pricipled
statement.
w,
more hockey talk ! one thing is a good goalie
never allows the crap past him, it never gets in his
net, never. if it finds his net it must be
essentially exceptional. only the best moves and shots
get in.
and here this, enjoy the dynamics here. i hasten
to bring it up in public but it is irresistible.
the mittens takes off the 11th commandment ( yes,
the republicans have added one. it is another example
of the "god thing" as it pertains to assholes thinking
they can take human life as a calling or 9-5 job.)
so he breaks it and smears the newt who then smears
him back and the opportunity then goes to santorium
to shit on the both of them, ron paul in silent attendance.
or maybe i missed something?
.
Mitt Attacks Newt Over House Ethics Questions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmd8NyhKPE
.
this is synchronicity at play. nature unfolding to
bring about the best and obvious "light". > ? <
.
of course it is in the counting of the votes so
perversion there can always thwart the insight of
the electorate anyway. good criminals always think
of everything beforehand, it goes all the way back
even before the bible.
but this is special, boggles the mind almost.
Newt Gingrich: My Affair Clarified Why I Needed To Impeach Clinton http://wonkette.com/441480/newt-gingrich-my-affair-clarified-why-clinton...
.
as newt says ..." it is very simple " newt gingrich
get the money and sell out your influence. it is the
12 commandment of the pnac new world order....rape and
pillage through a front man who has run the gauntlet and
knows the ropes. donations always accepted, especially from
those who will see it come right back to them through media
and advertising expenses.
WB- Love your work. I'm a life-long hockey fan and if I could buy that poster I'd hang it on my wall proudly... even if TT IS a Big Bad Bruin. Thanks again dude
Potvin is now the local TV colour guy for the Sens here in Ottawa which is his hometown. When they did the game in NYC a few days ago, the play-by-play guy mentioned that the NY fans had long memories and still get the old "Potvin Sucks!" chorus going even when they see him in civies.
Honestly? Do you think you are hurting any of our feelings with your pathetic jealous insecure rants? Americans of all stripes even ones that look like you make you feel small. We get it.
Dude, This line isn't douchy at all. On the money in my opinion.Everything from wasted food in the US to Solandra destroying parts, and fucking Cash for clunkers destroying parts, proves the triuth of the statement.
AnAnonymous "US citizens claim to be innovative. One sector you have to give it to them is the number of insane ways they can go in order to consume and deplete resources."
I don't buy the premise that Thomas' act, is some kind of elaborate subterfuge. And I certainly don't need to be told I don't understand what the problems are back in the GO-US of A. ;-)
The B's are a blue collar team. OK, they can afford on their 1%-erz salaries to buy condoz in the North End and walk/bike to the gahden, like 1/4 of them do. In the skosh' neighborhood, they are regarded as regular guys, high-five on the way to practice carrying the sea-bag of gear.
Never been any political comments from them; never. But here is an individual, truly at the top of his leagues' game, who makes a political statement only because his team has been placed into a political situation.
- Ned
{we used to say "Our Canucks are better than your Canucks"--How does that translate to a WH visit?}
I think all of us know the feeling. Something happens to you, you read something, you hear something, then bang, everything you ever thought is upside down, can never be thought of the same, and there is no turning back.
The innovation of America was from freedom. People from all over the world came here and took advantage of that freedom to create wealth. They had to compete with others to create wealth in the most efficient manner and we were the most efficient. The top down central planning crap is how the rest of the world worked for 1000s of years and how things have steadily declined in America in the last 100 years. Saying that all the problems of the world started in the US in the last 100 years is beyond stupid. America up to the early 1900s was humanity's most significant venture into liberty ever. The rest of the world has very limited comparisons and 99% (as opposed to America's 40-50%) of the time the world has lived under central planning CSing tyranny. AnAn loves living under tyranny and thinks that all his problems are caused by America. Some might be from our decline, which TT is attempting to turnback, but the majority are from his own crappy country. Yet he comes on here and disses Americans that want to be free. He is a bitter pathetic loser. That is why I mock him and he deserves to be mocked.
The computer anon types on and the internet he drools thru are both brought to the world courtesy of the ingenuity of the USA and it kills him because he knows it...
What's more is that the American rise to prosperity is not a mystery. China just as well could have done it a long time ago had they embraced liberty instead of Mao. If they had, I'd be making plans to move there today. They didn't and life for the majority of people sucks there. Ripping Americans who want liberty only helps ensure that it will continue to suck.
I knew it would, but who cares. That guy really deserves to be supported by everyone who understands what is happening. It's not a secret anymore. Now it's a question of who steps forward and speaks loud.
+30
Way to go Tim Thomas - way to go Banzai!
WB7, a bit late, but i think you may like this one:
http://imgur.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu/AlTom
That's funny. It is interesting how the concepts of property rights, privacy and territory are playing out in the digital realm.
For most cases, it appears culture has historically been a bitch. But regarding the inet, it appears it can also be on your side when somethings rise was based on ideals that are totally alien to common culture.
Yeah, they managed to subdue it's origins.... yet it just doesn't want to "die already". Like a hydra.... chop off 12 of the 16 heads, and the remaining 4 ones just stubbornly refuse to obey the new agenda.
(will go into more detail, if you request so. After all, there is something VERY special and groundbreaking about the inet.... and it has less to do with tech, but more to do with how humans use it.... in a way, that is completely incompatible with "real-world" culture and morals.... a "way" that offers a (seemingly) risk-free alternate personality, outside of one's own established "real-life" - call cypher to deliver his punchline (If the so called "real-life" sucks, and i'm not willing/able to change it on my own, then how about i get a 2nd chance, not inhibited by my usual environment?). THIS is he criticial mass out of which the inet did become public.... and the origin, which certian major players want you to forget, yet failed to do so completely:
The popular inet originated neither out of the current cultural doctrines, nor out of anonymity: it originated out of sacred pseudonomity... an alternative, to the "real world" and culture).
Request: "I am Kim Dotcom (aka Kim Schmitz) (aka Kimble) (aka Kim Tim Jim Vestor)"
Well done William, I hope Mr. Thomas gets to see it.
I hope so. I can't track it exactly but it seems to be moving around? ;-)
First, as a Bruins fan, Tim Thomas is a great goalie.
But this was just not right, for the sake of the team. He didn't even use it to promote whatever legislation pissed him off; just the same corporatist right wing propaganda we hear from hacks like Peter Schifff.
But part of that is misinformation. I think the guy, like most others, gives way too much credit to how much power the actual president has in policy. Presidents haven't really mattered since JFK. The only people who really change and form the legislation and lack of (impactful) regulation are the multinational corporations that Congress works for (and hold stocks in) and of course, the Board of the Federal Reserve. Ben Bernanke has more power than Obama; Obama can't start wars if he doesnt have the money.
Thomas also missed an opportunity to actually have a chance to talk with the Preisdent; I am sure as a million dollar athlete, he has more of a chance to actually get the guy's ear for 5 minutes on whatever than I ever will. Even in a election year. He could of picked a subject and expressed his views in a handshake. Of course, Obama could have shrugged him off ala the Occupy protesters in NH, but I disgress.
However, Tim is from Michigan. There is a HUGE sovereign anti-government faction out there; the type of guys who refuse to pay taxes, get a Driver's License, and own as many guns as they like (parts of which I agree with).
"..the type of guys who refuse to pay taxes.."
Sounds Like President Obama's advisor Jeffrey Immelt and his company, GE!
Seriously though, during those media spots, they aren't really accorded any time to speak with the president, so one has to truly doubt there would have been any face time.
The president, and his cabinet appointments only matter as to who they appoint.
Since Obama has an established record for appointing a 100% neocon administration, and since Hillary Clinton has likewise appointed former neocons (including GW Bush inner circle guy, and former #3 at State under Bush, and the swine who outed Valerie Plame, Marc Grossman -- also implicated in the selling of nuclear secrets to foreign governments and the shadow arms market), they do have much to answer for.
If you don't realize that Obama appointee, Neal Wolin, was responsible for the language in the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (repeal of Glass-Steagall), and you are unaware of his appointments of the number one jobs offshoring evanelist in America (Diana Farrell), the number two actual jobs offshorer, GE's Jeffrey Immelt, and #3 jobs offshoring evangelist (going back to Reagan's administration, Jim Kolbe), then you simply haven't been paying attention.
Also, you may recall that during the Bush administration, they cooked that Iraqi WMD intelligence data to "allow" themselves the excuse for their illegal invasion of Iraq, then you should also realize that Obama has cooked the IAEA's Iran Nuclear Assessment Report along the same lines (and since both the American government, and the EU, have illegally frozen Iranian Central Bank's assets --- under international law, that is -- this constitutes an official act of war against Iran by the American government and the Obama Administration.
Therre were no excuses for the Bush crime family, and there are no excuses for Obama and his crew!
I think Tim thinking bigger and was taking one for team America.
"Thomas also missed an opportunity to actually have a chance to talk with the Preisdent"
Which would have gotten zero response, As it is he now has national attention.
"Thomas also missed an opportunity to actually have a chance to talk with the Preisdent"
Beer summit, part deux? I don't think Barry can hang with a hockey guy for drinkin'. TT would insist on sitting on the south lawn with a quarter barrel and a tap...each.
but TT didn't "act stupidly". Also Our Dear President had all kinds of time to know how he got there. "I don't know the facts of the matter" only happens wrt the Cambridge PD.
TT would know where to find a brew; he sat down tonite,
Oh, and thanks WB7 for your continuing efforts.
You know what, in desperate times, some things are more important than worrying about what the team thinks. People who are in a position to deliver a message always carry a burden. What he did was not about ego, although I see the sports MSM are seeing it differently.
Having said that, I'm sure he explained himself adequately to his team mates. Moreover his statement is on the NHL web site. So he must have explained it too others as well. I'm sure that required some character as well.
Dude, stop demanding 100% purity to your ideal and embrace it when people take a step in the right direction.
as a long, long time buffalo sabres fan it pains me to pay tribute to any bruin.
as a former goal tender myself it feels good to see tim stepping up and taking a stand.
so thank you tim for skating to the top of the crease and doing the breed apart proud.
All credit to Tim Thomas. His statement wasn't partisan. He had the balls to say what so many of us know to be true (and true in more countries than just the US).
Hero, in my opinion.
Glad to see more from different backgrounds giving a puck.
AnalAnonymous sounds like that little nazi shithead from the other day ... i forget his name ....
tt refused to lend his fame to a political
event, this is out of order and divisive to
the hero following herd mentality that is at
the root of this ancient technique of social
control, talent and quality lent out to give
credence in a social manner to anti social
policies and controls. conformity challenged !
next thing you know he will refuse to do
cola commercials! we can't have that.
he is opting out of the cult of personality
status sharing with the political establishment.
is that so bad? will he lend his status to some
other political figure? will he reject the entire
concept of mass mind modulation through fame and
the group tendency to be open to those manipulations?
and so what? what would Joseph Goebbels say?
goebbels would have him punished for his pricipled
statement.
goebbels would have him punished for his pricipled statement.
And he still may! Tax season comes soon.
Fuck the state.
The thought occurred. to me.
w,
more hockey talk ! one thing is a good goalie
never allows the crap past him, it never gets in his
net, never. if it finds his net it must be
essentially exceptional. only the best moves and shots
get in.
and here this, enjoy the dynamics here. i hasten
to bring it up in public but it is irresistible.
the mittens takes off the 11th commandment ( yes,
the republicans have added one. it is another example
of the "god thing" as it pertains to assholes thinking
they can take human life as a calling or 9-5 job.)
so he breaks it and smears the newt who then smears
him back and the opportunity then goes to santorium
to shit on the both of them, ron paul in silent attendance.
or maybe i missed something?
.
Mitt Attacks Newt Over House Ethics Questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmd8NyhKPE
.
this is synchronicity at play. nature unfolding to
bring about the best and obvious "light". > ? <
.
of course it is in the counting of the votes so
perversion there can always thwart the insight of
the electorate anyway. good criminals always think
of everything beforehand, it goes all the way back
even before the bible.
but this is special, boggles the mind almost.
Newt Gingrich: My Affair Clarified Why I Needed To Impeach Clinton
http://wonkette.com/441480/newt-gingrich-my-affair-clarified-why-clinton...
.
as newt says ..." it is very simple " newt gingrich
get the money and sell out your influence. it is the
12 commandment of the pnac new world order....rape and
pillage through a front man who has run the gauntlet and
knows the ropes. donations always accepted, especially from
those who will see it come right back to them through media
and advertising expenses.
Thanks for saying NO Tim.
WB- Love your work. I'm a life-long hockey fan and if I could buy that poster I'd hang it on my wall proudly... even if TT IS a Big Bad Bruin. Thanks again dude
BTW, you don't have to buy it. Just download it and print it off.
I was a diehard Ranger fan, so you know what it means for me to hat tip a Bruin.
Potvin sucks ;-)
kindred spirits... he never stopped sucking either :-)
Heh heh heh ...
Potvin is now the local TV colour guy for the Sens here in Ottawa which is his hometown. When they did the game in NYC a few days ago, the play-by-play guy mentioned that the NY fans had long memories and still get the old "Potvin Sucks!" chorus going even when they see him in civies.
In the good old days, watching the fans in the uppers was half the fn.
"Gallery Gods" in the old Boston Gahden.
Red seats suck!
Red Seats suck!
Red seats suck!
OK, so I was a 99%er in my youth
Only one cooler than Tim Thomas was Nick Fotiou throwing pucks into the upper deck after warmups!
Nicky gloves off...the golden days of hockey ;-)
if I could buy that poster I'd hang it on my wall proudly...
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////
You'd be welcome because that is exactly the purpose.
Monetizing one of the most lunatic comment ever made.
US citizens claim to be innovative.
One sector you have to give it to them is the number of insane ways they can go in order to consume and deplete resources.
Shill... -1
"US citizens claim to be innovative."
Honestly? Do you think you are hurting any of our feelings with your pathetic jealous insecure rants? Americans of all stripes even ones that look like you make you feel small. We get it.
Douche
williambanzai7
Dude, This line isn't douchy at all. On the money in my opinion.Everything from wasted food in the US to Solandra destroying parts, and fucking Cash for clunkers destroying parts, proves the triuth of the statement.
AnAnonymous "US citizens claim to be innovative.
One sector you have to give it to them is the number of insane ways they can go in order to consume and deplete resources."
I don't buy the premise that Thomas' act, is some kind of elaborate subterfuge. And I certainly don't need to be told I don't understand what the problems are back in the GO-US of A. ;-)
The B's are a blue collar team. OK, they can afford on their 1%-erz salaries to buy condoz in the North End and walk/bike to the gahden, like 1/4 of them do. In the skosh' neighborhood, they are regarded as regular guys, high-five on the way to practice carrying the sea-bag of gear.
Never been any political comments from them; never. But here is an individual, truly at the top of his leagues' game, who makes a political statement only because his team has been placed into a political situation.
- Ned
{we used to say "Our Canucks are better than your Canucks"--How does that translate to a WH visit?}
I think all of us know the feeling. Something happens to you, you read something, you hear something, then bang, everything you ever thought is upside down, can never be thought of the same, and there is no turning back.
The innovation of America was from freedom. People from all over the world came here and took advantage of that freedom to create wealth. They had to compete with others to create wealth in the most efficient manner and we were the most efficient. The top down central planning crap is how the rest of the world worked for 1000s of years and how things have steadily declined in America in the last 100 years. Saying that all the problems of the world started in the US in the last 100 years is beyond stupid. America up to the early 1900s was humanity's most significant venture into liberty ever. The rest of the world has very limited comparisons and 99% (as opposed to America's 40-50%) of the time the world has lived under central planning CSing tyranny. AnAn loves living under tyranny and thinks that all his problems are caused by America. Some might be from our decline, which TT is attempting to turnback, but the majority are from his own crappy country. Yet he comes on here and disses Americans that want to be free. He is a bitter pathetic loser. That is why I mock him and he deserves to be mocked.
The computer anon types on and the internet he drools thru are both brought to the world courtesy of the ingenuity of the USA and it kills him because he knows it...
What's more is that the American rise to prosperity is not a mystery. China just as well could have done it a long time ago had they embraced liberty instead of Mao. If they had, I'd be making plans to move there today. They didn't and life for the majority of people sucks there. Ripping Americans who want liberty only helps ensure that it will continue to suck.
got fuel to burn,
got roads to drive
Keep on rockin in the free world........
LasVegasDave
US poor people got Iphones, Flat screens, and cars.
Take that starving African children!
Good that those cheap iphones, flatscreens and cars, are edible.... makes the expensive food a nonissue.
Idiot.
WB7,
Lots of negative rants and trolls today...job well done!!
FM
I knew it would, but who cares. That guy really deserves to be supported by everyone who understands what is happening. It's not a secret anymore. Now it's a question of who steps forward and speaks loud.