In a Tyranny, Even Pointing Out the Fact of Tyranny Is Grounds for Harassment
Protesting Against Indefinite Detention May Get You Detained
George Orwell said:
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
So today, even pointing out the fact that we are sliding into tyranny - for example, discussing the indefinite detention bill - is itself grounds for arrest:
Similarly, anyone who investigates factory farming may be considered a terrorist, even though factory farming may be a breeding ground for swine flu.
As may anyone who questions war, protests anything, asks questions about pollution or about Wall Street shenanigans, supports Ron Paul, is a libertarian or holds gold.
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next time pass the paper into the crowd, so that it continues. Can't arrest everyone.
"Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies" by glenn grenwald
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/31/progressives_and_the_ron_paul_fallacies/
That was an amazing read. I plan to print it and hand it to some sleepwalking liberals and ask them where they disagree. Just.... wow.
In Singapore the free speech zone is next to a Police Station and is affectionately called Speakers Cornered.
An *impoved* British tradition...
I called my senior US Senator (Dianne Feinstein) last week to find out why she supported SOPA and NDAA. Well, the lady who answered the phone took exception when I pointed out that the Senator's husband, Richard Blum, is a war profiteer, a fact which is well known in Northern CA - there have been articles in the SF Chronicle over the last few years re: Blums being a private war contractor - and the next thing I know I am being audited by the IRS for self-employment! I'm just a little stay at home housewife and pay all my taxes, but look out about talking truth to your so-called legislative "reps" because I have NO DOUBT that Feinsteins lackey(s) called the IRS. So much for the first amendment! Legislators seem to have taken on as many unconstitutional powers as the executive branch. Perhaps it IS time to get out of Dodge!
I'm progressive and I wouldn't give that two bit whore a nickle if she were on the street starving and begging for food.
She's the worst excuse of a Dem Senator we've EVER had. I hope she gets AIDS from that closet queen of a husband she has.
Rob Noob - But does Florida sound better seeing it is winter and all?
You cannot make your way through a single day in the USA without breaking at least one law. Hell, if you are a US Citizen, you can't have a single waking day anywhere in the world without breaking at least one US law.
What I want to know is if they invoke the inevitable Enemy Expatriation Act, which is designed to strip US nationals of their citizenship so they can then be renditioned under NDAA, do they still keep the former, "expatriated" former citizen on the hook for the expatriation tax and another ten years of filings?
I think I need to pour a scotch and light up a cuban while I wait for the Blackhawks to swoop in and pick me up for my re-education.
I agree, they passed 743 new laws in the State of California this year and over 2,000 the year before. I'm sure some kind of law is being broken, just commenting here. Add the FBI's facial recognition library they're building, police fingerprinting on the spot, reading license plates by computer and suddenly you've got Big Brother everywhere.
When you start to worry about the actual privacy that you might possess in your own home, it makes you wonder. What's next? Little nano-bots that will come inside or on the periphery and sniff, smell and test all the activity going on?
I can only imagine... That's Cuban Cigar DNA! Where did you obtain that? From who? Tell us!
Ha! STP posed a question but demanded an answer. So you get 50% right and therefore that is an F.
How about Die Hard? The rest of your statements (which is what they were) are gibberish.
Must be too much scotch .... humour me and try being a little less cryptic in your commentary.
Why should I humor you? Do you care?
To the Blog Post ''Hedge Funds Now Hold Future Of Europe Hostage'' I wrote the following:
''Everybody with a brain knows that EU and EMU is doomed. Everybody now knows that it has and will lead to low growth with no jobs. Everybody knows that EU has ruined every opportunity they did have. It's just a question of time before it falls apart. My entire aim and focus right now is to just get out. So I can pick up the tarnished pieces of my life and start over. It is a serious tragedy what has been going on under the EU Dictator Reinfeldt of Sweden.''
Half an hour later I had one Swedish Police Helicopter with a camera pointed right at my window right outside my house. I checked internet to see if a robbery had taken place in the neighbourhood and it had not. I filmed it all in my cell phone. They have monitored me for years in Sweden under FRA and the current Prime Minister 'Fredrik Reinfeldt' has targeted and harrased me for almost eight years now on buses, streets, in the subway, stores. I choose to be silent but it makes no diferrence now im coming out with all information.
I only know how to ask questions to attempt to verify True or False. Where the fuck is your question in all that blather of verbal diahrea? No wonder swedish Feinstein sodomized you.
Don't be a troll, just for the excitement of contesting everything, anyone says. It makes you a douchebag. The Swede brings up some very relevant points in a clear manner, contributing to the subject at hand. And what do you bring?
You don't know nothing about being watched until you've experienced what our Swedish friend here has and I have.
Dude, you are totally freaking me out! The Swedes did that? I live in New York city, home of Bloomberg, for crying out loud. I'm up shit creek. This morning, I posted a comment on the same article-
This story is seeping out like toxic waste. Wrap your brains around this, Greek, European and American taxpayers, and begin to call this what it is: transnational, institutionalized theft, courtesy of corrupt, incompetent policy makers in London and Washington and their cynical, sociopathic private business associates in high finance.
Wealth is being extracted in a series of debt-related Ponzi schemes. First it was the United States, Ireland and Iceland, and now attention has turned to all of Europe, the Euro, itself, and perhaps the United States, again. As the first domino in Greece falls, money from European taxpayers is now going to go directly into the pockets of wealthy British hedge fund managers, sovereign wealth funds and other private investors, which means ANYONE, even drug kingpins using offshore fronts to launder money. And it gets worse. Unreported by the mainstream news media, these investors have been loading up on credit default swaps, actually HOPING to profit from Greek default and a cascading collapse of Italy, Spain and the Euro.
CDS should have been banned in 2008. Instead, the market in those financial WMD's has exploded to a record high of over $70 trillion. We can mainly thank Tim Geithner and his co-conspirators at Goldman Sachs, CitiGroup and London for that. What will now happen is a replay of the AIG robbery. The shadow banking system has its hands around our throats. It is the work of the devil's henchmen and should be the stuff of revolution.
Can I claim to have been brainwashed by zerohedge? Would that be okay, Tyler? Kidding.
Claim whatever you like. Does that answer your question? Like the other asshat that thinks we give five flying figs about your story and gurged out gibberish. Do you have a valid question so that the audience may make decisions now?
How about this little bit of "silencing" the opposition or criticism...
Israeli bill may make Nazi comparisons illegal(AP)
JERUSALEM — A proposed bill would make it a crime in Israel to criticize people by comparing them to Nazis.
The draft legislation would impose penalties of up to six months in jail and a $25,000 fine for using the word "Nazi" or Holocaust symbols for purposes other than teaching, documentation or research.
The draft legislation passed its first hurdle Monday when Cabinet ministers approved it. It now goes to the full parliament for a vote.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57356572/israeli-bill-may-make-nazi-...
So they are banning the internet in Israel?
too funny... I guess the obvious comparison between nazis and zionists makes this truth just a little too dangerous.
I hope everyone sees that the only election that is coming up that could DENT what has been going on now is the November Presidential election... And Ron Paul is the only choice that would seek to roll back the out of control Government. Seriously, we've been WARNED, by this video and all the new legislation and if we don't act right now, things WILL only get -orders of magnitude- worse...
So we see the video above and know about the laws... let me ask- WHAT ARE YOU DOING -TODAY- ABOUT THIS?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING THIS WEEK? please don't flame or troll-
do something... talk to your sphere. Volunteer your time, have a party (with a red solo cup(s)) to talk about this with (your sphere). Get people to wake the fuck up. Because soon you wont be able to without- concern or outright fear- about USING your free speech. USE IT OR LOOSE IT...
P.S. Yes I am volunteering and donating and the ideas above. Hope you do too- FIGHT CLUB! (wait- don't talk about it!) ;-)
Ron Paul wants you to be free to chant in public.
without hyperbole, the united states is a terrorist tyranny run by the rockefeller-mic-yale-cia cabal of vicious barbarians....
Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos!
"You vil do az ve say!"
No I won't. I am armed and free, I will not be made a serf. When democracy gives way to tyranny I will still get to vote.
Nine Ebo. We will ask questions, offer choice then indict the rest. To restore or not restore the Republic, THAT is the question.
May I kindly suggest another? The people should consider the concepts of a Republic and/or Authoritarism, debate and then frame the argument for or against the SCALE of one set of concepts vs. the other. Democracy vs. Republic isn't my question but I imagine it will be posed.
"Ah then tell me Sean O'Farrell, why it is you hurry so
Hush my boys now hush and listen...and his eyes were all aglow
'Aye there orders from the Captain..get ye ready quick and soon
For the pikes must be together...at the risin' of the moon."
I'm white, conservative, Catholic and patriotic. If that makes me a terrorist in my native America, so be it. I apologize for nothing.
Hungarian, Russian orthodox Signed also in blood.
Jason C. Rines
I second the motion and invite people of all nations. Any other signers or non-signers?
Now we will decide, choice offered through question. That may or may not come after a statement.
Wolf. You'll find 600 lil' friends to play with soon. Ring around the rosie you weak minded fool. Come play chess bitch.
This is not going to stop until people start prosecuting police for unlawful arrest on the same scale that the arrests are happening.
People have no idea what the law is and have no idea how to use it to protect their rights.
If every Occupier sued for unlawful arrest the Bloomberg eyes would start bleeding.
The potential liability alone would crash NYC's bond rating to junk.
People need to understand that EVERY arrest is PRESUMED UNLAWFUL. The fact the cop is gov't agent is not an an excuse.
You could even do it in small claims court where the cop will not have the benefit of a lawyer to concoct a justification.
Indio... I'm not disagreeing with you but curious about what others might say about this part.
Courts often rule based on precedence... what has been done... (not that that's right either in some cases) and the state has always been treated with 'dignity'(not sure of a better word to use)Doesn't matter what court they get called too... judges will respect a police officer because their job is to uphold the law.... we can't have any leaks in our ship.
I'm not sure how you fight this level of corruption though without taking it to another level. We can't do it by election, and our society does not think long term enough to generate permenent change.
An arresting being presumed unlawful is backed by precedent. Going all the way back to the Magna Carta in fact. You are not suing them in small claims court in an official capacity. You are suing them in their private person. You have to because the state is a legal fiction and can't break the law i.e. do an unconstitutional act. Only people can do unconstitutional acts. When a cop does an act that violates the constitution or any other law they are "acting outside their office" and are not entitled to immunity of the sovereign. You can actually sue them in both capacities is acting unconsitutionally is a policy that you can prove. That is more difficult. The City of NY is a municipal corporation an has zero immunity and ca not confer immunity. En mass calims against it by OWS that have been arrested would bankrut the city because they would not be able to issue bonds for their employees. Why do you think a municipalites carry insurance in the first place? Why do they have risk management? If they had immunity they wouldn't need it. They don't have immunity, Niether do these cops. Stop being a stupid cOW , Stop mooing and start suing!
This is not going to stop until people start prosecuting police for unlawful arrest on the same scale that the arrests are happening.
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No. Typical stroke of US citizenism.
US citizenism pushes toward more and more consumption.
So prosecuting the Police?
It is taken from the victims of the Police in US citizenism.
Never the law officers in US citizenism are attacked in their wealth.
Basically, in US citizenism, when one victim of the Police prosecutes the Police, the victim is going to fund one's own repayments, police officers never forking money out of their pockets.
Of course, at present times, the final cost is reported on those third worlders whose resources are backing up the mighty USD. So the bite is felt much less cruelly.
But in the end, it does not change the deal.
The Police in US citizenism have their victims to pay for them anytime police officers are convicted of any charge.
US world order.
None of your mindless blather ever makes any sense whatsoever.
I think what he's trying to say is if you sue to police or the city you will just pay for it anyway on your taxes. That's why s said sue them in their private capacity. All cops are bonded. In massachusetts the need 5K of insurance. Judges are bonded too. Not to mention their oath of office acts as a lien on all their real property while they are performing their public duties.
Why throw away the Xchange with the trash?
Can or cannot the citizens police the police? Are we going to debate the meaning of the word 'is' or 'is not?' to the 4th power? Didn't think so.
Next time, you can charge ahead stupidly YOURSELF befofe admonishing committing the people to self-slaughter first. Hahahah! Not. See me laughing Mother Fucker?
First one asks the right questions, then one can ponder and measure the answers, finally indictment. You know better on legal process. Go suck your own thumb, sit down and shut up pussy. Because We Are and we have decided to evolve our Republic.
The answer was decided for you since you wouldn't decide. Go toy with a 2 year old deviant.
If the police were operating at the request of the owners and/or the lessees, they were protecting property rights. I assume this was the case. The protestors should only be protesting on their own property, property they have the owners' permission to use, or "public" property. Then they would have a case for First Amendment protection.
http://www.hark.com/clips/bvrvcjqhqd-it-is-with-great-reluctance
For some reason, this reminds me of the "Reservations" Obama had about imprisoning US Citizens.....
I think GW should be arrested for writing this stuff, we gotta pass that sopa thing.
GW: I post on a social networking site, and over nad over I tell all that they need to read 1984 again if they want to have any understanding of what's going on in this country.
or watch the entire movie online:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5464625623984168940&hl=en#
"occupy the dream" organizing protests in over a dozen U.S. cities for this coming Monday, January 16.
http://www.occupydream.org/
So, now they're gonna revive the race-war too?
And just in time for the election. How convenient.
all races should be pissed off at the government.
Dreams are a nice beginning of reality.
The U.S. is almost gone. (IIRC) The federal government in the first years (2003-5) setting up the Department of Homeland Security paid Markus Wolf over a million dollars a year to advise them in setting up this blatant fascist apparatus. Marcus Wolf was of course the former head of the dreaded Stasi , one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies in the world, the East German secret police.
I have friends that would be regarded as educated and successful by most any standards that sit and watch football while the safeguards afforded us in America come falling down around them. The low level Homeland Security morons are merely a small part of the problem. The 70%of the municipal drinking water is medicated and poisoned. The processed food is medicated and poisoned containing neurotoxins and all sorts of vile crap. Everything in the corporate media is adulterated with propaganda. Psychotronic technology is now ubiquitous being employed against the American people… and its going to get a helluva lot worse before it gets better… if it even ever does get better.
RON PAUL 2012
Translation: You a pussy Ben. Now I will flog you for it. I'll cry though, because you have so much more potential.
Bring this Wolf to me. Let us see compare six binary choices vs eight. I may let him even get through to find himself in the Maze Nightmare. He can lick my balls and you can grow a spine chrome dome.
But as for MY Bear, Putin and I have an agreement. But do come for the entertainment Ben, so we can show you how its done.