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Update on Middle Eastern Wars
Since
the U.S. Has Been Planning Regime Change In Syria For Decades, I Guess
the Little Things Like Working On the Same Side as Al Qaeda – or the
Risk of Picking a Fight with Nuclear Powers China and Russia – Are
Ignored
AP reports:
Top U.S. intelligence officials told Congress Thursday
that al-Qaida of Iraq was likely behind a series of bombings against the
Syrian regime in recent months.
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said bombings against
security and intelligence targets in Damascus and Aleppo bear “all the
earmarks of an al-Qaida-like attack”, leading the U.S. intelligence
community to believe the Iraqi militant branch is extending its reach
into Syria.
(this corroborates the Arab League’s findings.)
This is interesting for two reasons.
First, there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq until the U.S. invaded in 2003:
(
Despite the repeated attempts by the U.S. to link Saddam to 9/11.)
Second, the U.S., Israel and its allies are fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda: against the Syrian government.
As I noted yesterday, Syria will hold elections and enact a new Constitution in less than two weeks.
But the U.N passed a resolution
today calling for Syrian president (Bashar al-Assad) to resign. The
U.S. and Israel will try to use this as a proclamation of “international
backing” for an invasion of Syria.
Russia said today it does not support regime change:
The deputy minister also said that Russia does not
intend to persuade Syrian President Bashar Assad to accept the Arab
League’s proposal on sending a joint LAS and UN peacekeeping force to
Damascus.
Russia opposes any regime change, or removal of President Assad. In addition, Moscow insists on recognizing the role of the opposition in the current violence.
An as I noted last week:
Russia has sent a large naval force
to Syria in a show of support for the Syrian government, and a
high-level Russian general and former member of the Russian joint chiefs
of staff has said that Russia will defend Iran. Iran and Syria have had a mutual defense pact for years, and Iran is purportedly directly assisting the Syrian military in its fight with the rebels … sending 15,000 troops of its own. And China has warned against an attack on Syria.
I guess when a country has been planning regime change in Syria for decades
– little things like working on the same side as our mortal enemies,
having a government agree to elections and a new constitution, or
potentially provoking nuclear powers like China or Russia are ignored.
Depsite the Hysteria, Experts Say that Iran Poses Very Little Threat to the West or Israel
The war drums are growing very loud.
For example, the former head of Mossad – who has been strongly opposed to war against Iran – has now thrown in the towel, and more or less said that war is inevitable after the car bombs in India, Thailand and Georgia (even though it is not clear that Iran is guilty for those attacks).
But AP notes:
[Defense Intelligence Agency chief Lt. Gen. Ronald]
Burgess tells senators Iran is unlikely to initiate or intentionally
provoke a conflict.[Director of National Intelligence James] Clapper says it’s
“technically feasible” that Tehran could produce a nuclear weapon in
one or two years, if its leaders decide to build one, “but practically
not likely.”
Indeed, Iran has not attacked another country in hundreds of years. (In the Iran-Iraq war, Iraq was the initial aggressor.)
Moreover, American, Israeli and European leaders all say that Iran has not even decided whether or not to build a nuclear bomb.
And – as the Christian Science Monitor notes – even if Iran did build a bomb – it probably wouldn’t pose much of a danger:
Shrill warnings of war or imminent apocalypse over Iran’s nuclear program have never been so strident, or so ominous.
A window is closing fast, the narrative goes, to prevent a fanatical
and suicidal religious regime from acquiring the ultimate tools of Armageddon: nuclear weapons. Within months, some politicians claim, either Israel, the United States, or both may have no choice but to attack Iran to remove this “existential threat” to the Jewish state.
The world is facing another Hitler, declares Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,
and this moment of decision is akin to the eve of World War II. Iran
is a threat to Israel and “a real danger to humanity as a whole,” warns
Israeli President Shimon Peres.
The tone on the US presidential campaign trail is no less dire.
***
In fact, say analysts and nonproliferation experts who have
studied the effect of the bomb on countries, coexisting with a
nuclear-armed Iran – or at least a nuclear-capable Iran – may well be
possible, even inevitable, whether a military strike delays that
outcome or not.
Analysts say Iran is not an irrational, suicidal actor that can’t be
deterred. Nor do they believe it is determined to destroy Israel at all
costs. A recent Israeli think tank simulation of “the day after” an
Iranian nuclear test came to the same conclusion: that nuclear
annihilation will not automatically result.
***
If Iran were to become a nuclear power, the most immediate question
would be what it means for Israel, where warnings have reached
histrionic heights.“Absolutely nothing will happen,” says Martin Van Creveld, an Israeli
historian and author of some 20 books on military strategy. “Israel
has what it takes to deter Iran, and the Iranians know it.”
Mr. Van Creveld is implying that Israel’s own nuclear arsenal of an
estimated 200 warheads would prevent any Iranian first strike. Israel
has the only such arsenal in the Middle East, and – unlike Iran’s
program – it has never been subject to UN inspection or safeguards.
“Say they build one bomb – it’s not good enough. They need how many –
2, 3, 5, 10, 20? And that will take them a long time, so it’s all
nonsense,” says Van Creveld. Iran is “not going to commit suicide by
dropping the bomb – or even threatening to drop the bomb – on us.”***
In Israel, even talking about living with a nuclear-armed Iran has
long been taboo because it might appear to concede that what the US,
Israel, and Europe have declared
“unacceptable” is, in fact, acceptable. Yet that was the scenario of a
simulation last October by the Institute for National Security Studies
(INSS), an Israeli think tank affiliated with Tel Aviv University, that gave insights into what might happen across the region if Iran became a nuclear state.The surprising result, the day after a hypothetical Iranian nuclear
test, was not war. Instead, all the main players – from Washington to Moscow to Tel Aviv – adjusted rather easily to the new reality, with few dramatic changes in behavior.Even Iran, rather than wielding its handful of new atomic bombs as a
sword of Damocles over a fearful region, attempted “to use them to
reach an agreement with the major powers to improve its strategic
standing,” according to the INSS report on the simulation published in
January.“The sky won’t fall the day after,” says Yoel Guzansky, a research
fellow at INSS who shaped the simulation and was an Iran specialist in
the Israeli prime minister’s office for four years until 2009.***
NATO says it is “unlikely” that Iran would pledge nuclear protection
of its proxies like Hezbollah – and makes no mention of sharing such
hard-won nuclear technology with them, which is a frequent refrain of
hawks and doomsday politicians.[Geneva-based Iran specialist with the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace Shahram] Chubin
states in his book on Iran’s nuclear ambitions that “there is no
reason to believe that Iran today, any more than Saddam Hussein
earlier, would transfer WMD [weapons of mass destruction] technology to
terrorist groups like Al Qaeda or Hezbollah.”Likewise, proliferation expert Joseph Cirincione,
in his 2007 book “Bomb Scare,” points out that nations like Iran and
North Korea are “not the most likely sources for terrorists since their
stockpiles, if any, are small and exceedingly precious, and hence well
guarded.”
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Hot off the press:
Here you go G-Dubya, read this article and it sounds as if I wrote it myself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/17/us-officials-iran-sanctions-military-action
Don't you love their Orwellian spin here!
Illuminist George Bush, Senior, setups-up Sadam for a Kuwait invasion then imposed literally wartime strategic-choke-hold sanctions on Iraq, which Illuminist Buba Clinton then continues for the next eight years, and intensified as he also started regularly attacking Iraqi forces. Then Illuminist GW Bush rides into town on his jackass, for the next eight years ... but now the rogue house-nigger Obama is actually phoney-'blaming' the GW Bush White House for imposing strategic-sanctions on Iraq, but then having rushed to war -- get this -- without supposedly having given the sanctions (i.e. of the previous12-years!!) a chance to work!
J U S T G O F U C K Y O U R S E L F W A S H I N G T O N S C U M !
It's been a REP/DEM tag-team of endless expansion of regional strategic-sanctions in the Middle East, and endless Washington bullshit and pure lies for the past 22 years, as they've done this.
And now they act like they are prepared to really give sanctions a go--this time for sure!!!
Well good for them.
Even though they know, with 100% certainty, that Iran absolutely can not and will not tollerate any policy of strategic strangulation by the West and Israel. And let's not forget that the people who developed this international financial warfare method are rabidly zionist duel-'citizen' Jews, who work in the most senior roles in the US Treasury's Anti-Terrorism Division.
These people are COMBATANTS--they are valid TARGETS--they're not mere CIVILIANS--they are AGGRESSORS.
No mincing words, there is no time for that, this is what it is; Iran is currently under direct international strategic financial attack, that is being imposed by US duel-citizen Jews, with the no-bell hero Obama's unflinching policy blessing and complete support.
And as for Washington not being able to control an unruly and aggressive Israel, what a total load of complete horseshit!
All the US has to say is; "Do as you are told or you'll get zero spares for your aircraft, no F-35i, no high-altitude SAM batteries, and no further overt financial, political or military cover and support".
Who the fuck do Washington think they are kidding here with such a ludicrous cop-out?!
Is Moscow or Tehran going to be fooled by such absurd shit?
Not a chance!
They will presume the US is going to attack.
This is rank incitement to force Iran to go to war, while pretending to the global MSM to be doing no such thing.
Washington is full of murderers and liars--the whole fucking lot of them--and they can never be trusted.
To Hell with all of this war mongering vermin.
That was quite a long dialogue you wrote earlier today about Mohammad Atta and how did he fly out of Dulles due to the flight times. Here's the answer. He flew from Portland to Boston, not Dulles and flew into one of the towers so basically all your conspiracy talk about the questionable times, well.....that's why conspiracy theorists are usally considered crackpots and full of shit. And the best part is you don't give a shit you're wrong, you just move to the next conspiracy.
Flight 11 never existed.
5 hijackers of flight 11 never boarded. The flight never existed.
http://letsrollforums.com/imagehosting/347a6a63d29e0b.jpg
Amer Bukhari, A hijacker from flight 11 was dead before 9/11. search it. Or maybe they placed his corps on board with his luggage, hhmm, a dead suicide terrorist with luggage?
Your getting flight 175 and flight 11 confused as you were supposed to.
9/11 commission report is bunk.
Flight 11 was cancelled according to the FAA website.
Flight 11, you know, the one that didn't exist? supposedly had 5 hi-jackers on board. It's diversion to create the argument that your making now. Slight of hand. These people work for Rand Corp and run psyop all day, their the best in the Nation to fuc the American public perception.
Go look at the passenger manifest for all 4 flight and tell me how many bad guy's were on board? None. Their not listed.
I will admit, I am not at all familiar with the intimate details of flight 175 or 11, I'm just going by Portland CCT, Colgan departing flight time and the FAA website for flight info. This is info provided from where I was told to look if I was interested in knowing the psyops surounding the twin tower incident, the coincedence of same departing airorts etc. I am not a professional in that feild of expertise, but I did mine facts that are irrifutable based on a tip.
I am a professional in respect to flight 77 or any circumstances surrounding the Pentagon on 9/11. I am trying to find answers like you are, I was given 2 facts to go by and the rest is a puzzle in respect to flight 11 and 175. I'm not going anywhere, and neither should you. Actual photos from the pit and all around the twin tower complex are up next. It will enrage alot of people, but I think that's what they may need?
All due respect to the families that lost that day.
Now, your going to answer some questions for me.
1 What are your points of research or material that leads you to your conclusion about.. say, anything on 9/11? If you say, Pop Mechanics, 9/11 Commission or the MSM then you are immediately dismissed as an idiot and this conversation is over.
2 Do you live in the Tri Boro area? DTLM.
3 Do you live in the Tri State area of NYC?
4 Do you have friends at FEMA or the DOJ?
5 Have you ever worked in the feild of Investigative work at any capacity?
6 Were you on site of any of these incidents?
7 Have you taken due diligents to speak to people that were on the ground?
8 Are you working in any form or capacity right now that would compromise your values or Oath as being a paid dis information campaign for DHS, FBI?
9 Have you personally had hands on sensitive inter office materials of the surrounding facts around any of these cases?
If you can not answer at least 3 of the questions above correctly, than your line of questioning, critique and or commentary / argument will be dismissed and reduced to null and void. Your a ghost afterwards.
I noticed you didn't answer my list of questions, go there right now or at your soonest convience before you reply to this post. That's your mission for the day and don't report back till it's complete line item for line item answered in the numerical order as listed in the questioneer.
If you don't know or can't find the answer to one of the questions, The statement, "I don't know" can be used to substitute for an answer, I will help you out and answer the question for you at that point with a reference so you can study the answer and learn.
I will grade it for you when your completed and I will then gague what caliper of individual I am dealing with, you could be 10 years old for all I know. I just need to see if your even mature enough to even have this conversation with. Go get to work, you have about 2.5 hours of research ahead of you so don't dally around chasing red hering.
Sharp, concise answers are what I'm looking for. Don't disappoint me or I will post your return brief on my website for everyone to come here and educate you. Double Endemnity is a clue. You should run across that word in your search.
I will be back at 13:00 EST to gague your progress.
"A window is closing fast, the narrative goes,"
Actually, I would differ GW. I think the window is just opening.
Presidents Day Alert!!
Today we want to shine some light on the open window for another babalonian isreal sponsored False Flag Event to take place soon for the justification to go to war with Iran as EVERYBODY KNOWS.
Watch out at large gatherings and be extra vigilant for anything that looks out of place. We are praying for all the Veterans that will gather at the white house this coming Monday.
The babylonians want to keep an eye on everything and everyone so they find the mistakes in the attack plans before any of the real people of the info-networking that is in place world wide. Give thanks for the truth that flows through all of you that are doing what they can to save the country and world from these evil war mongers.
As we approach these next months, shine and be very vigilant all over the country.
Only YOU can prevent govt sponsored false flag terrorism!
The Signs:
Open window for the period of 20-23 of February and March 20-23.
Past history of Monday morning attacks to milk the headlines all week on the media propaganda channels.
Presidents day.
New Moon.
Missing nukes.
Enterprise.
More open windows:
These comments were posted here and they are frighteningly right on target. The more LIGHT we shine on these evil war for profiteers and eugenicists, the better.
GET BRIGHT PEOPLE!!!
02/15/2012 - 23:13
"The Feast of Moloch (Apr. 19-20) comes with a new moon this year. Illuminati occultists believe their false flags bring them extra power if they sacrifice children by fire during the Feast of Moloch. For example, see Waco and Oklahoma City. I bet we will start bombing Iranian children shortly after Israel wastes the USS Enterprise with a nuclear torpedo.”
More:
02/15/2012
“Too bad it's not fundamentally about nukes. It's about the petrodollar. As with Iraq and Libya. And that fragment of the Chosen currently occupying Palestine demands absolute security, which means pre-emptive war against Iran. Add the two, Dennis Ross notwithstanding, and you get an Isramerican attack on Iran several months BEFORE the election. c. August, probably false-flagged by a Zionist attack on an American warship.”
And one last thing. Has anyone seen the latest Simpson’s episode? Another quinkie-dink?? Notice when in the beginning, they show some oil rig getting blown up by shooting a deaths head at it, and the possible date of 4-5 on the pumps, the prices of gas going way up, and then the scatter plot, or fallout map? And an attitude of “booya“ don‘t know don’t care. Sound familiar? Probably just another coincidence. Watch at min 2:30.:
http://www.wtso.net/movie/518-2313_The_Daughter_Also_Rises.html
WAKE UP AND SIT UP AND GET READY.
EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THIS KIND OF EVIL.
Also, in relation to last weeks note around the usage of mind control on the digital drug TV, if dogs can be entrained to follow the pied piper of the Propaganda digital TV, so can YOU! Are you smarter than a dog??
Our four-legged friends with square eyes: How dogs are becoming addicted to digital TV
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2027269/Dogs-addicted-digital-TV...
WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP AND BE ALERT!!!
***
Thanks for the Sage advise. There was another Simpsons show that had something to do with a warning of sorts about 9/11. Never saw it yet, I read about it on our other forum. Youtube should have it I'm going to go look now.
YO MAMMY OBAMMY!!!!!!!!!!!
From Iranian Press Service:
http://www.iran-press-service.com/articles_2001/dec_2001/rafsanjani_nuke_threats_141201.htm
RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran’s most influential ruling cleric called Friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.
Analysts said not only Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani’s speech was the strongest against Israel, but also this is the first time that a prominent leader of the Islamic Republic openly suggests the use of nuclear weapon against the Jewish State.
"It seems that Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani is forgetting that due to the present intertwinement of Israel and Palestine, the destruction of the Jewish State would also means the mass killing of Palestinian population as well", observed one Iranian commentator.
And let's not forget that the US and Israel have been openly discussing the preemptive use of nuclear weapons to destroy deeply buried 'bunkers' SINCE BEFORE 2001, and the subtext has always been that they are needed against Iran and DPRK ... but this dramatically changed on 9th of Oct 2006, for some inexplicable reason. </sarc>
And THAT talking up the use of nuclear weapons is just completely fucking outrageous.
A flagrant incitement of Iran to engage in a nuclear arms race and to develop a retaliatory doctrine and capability against a US or Israeli nuclear bombardment.
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You reap what you sew .. bitchez!
Augustus, I just realized your link is from 2001.
So even if true, that is 11 years old.
They are following teachings from about 650 AD. What difference does another ten years make.
The Iranian Shites are convinced that the 12th Iman will not return until the Jews are destroyed. They want the return of that Iman and will do anything necessary to make the dream come true. If you are a nonbeliever, your life is worthless. The sooner you go to Hell the better the world will be. If the action brings a loss of life to some believers, they should consider themselves fortunate to get an early ticket to Paradise. The Shite Religion of Peace does not recognize a downside to a nuclear war.
Christian zionists (and, incidentially, Jewish zionists) believe that Christ will not return until there is armegeddon in the mideast.
Are you one of them there?
I've not given much thought to Armageddon. Your writing certainly informs me that you have. In any case, I don't believe Christians teachings direct the followers to attempt to cause an Armageddon to occur. That would be a big difference, IMHO. Are you trying to instigate an Armageddon with your writings?
Millions of Americans believe that Christ will not come again until Israel wipes out its competitors and there is widespread war in the Middle East. Some of these folks want to start a huge fire of war and death and destruction, so that Jesus comes quickly.
Most Americans confuse Zionism and Judaism. But many devout Jews are against Zionism, and Zionists can be Christian as well as Jewish. Those who say that criticizing Zionism is anti-semitic
are misleading people for their own ulterior motives which have nothing
to do with ensuring the safety of the Jewish people. Israeli Zionists
are no more true to the cultural heritage of the Jewish people than
Neocons are to the conservative tradition.
The website you link to is based in France.
A search of IPS' site shows no such story: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fipsnews.net+%22RAFSANJANI+SAYS+MUSLIMS+SHOULD+USE+NUCLEAR+WEAPON+AGAINST+ISRAEL%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=uBU&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:http%3A%2F%2Fipsnews.net+%22One+of+Iran%E2%80%99s+most+influential+ruling+cleric+called+Friday+on+the+Muslim+states+to+use+nuclear+weapon+against+Israel%2C+assuring+them+that+while+such+an+attack+would+annihilate+Israel&pbx=1&oq=site:http%3A%2F%2Fipsnews.net+%22One+of+Iran%E2%80%99s+most+influential+ruling+cleric+called+Friday+on+the+Muslim+states+to+use+nuclear+weapon+against+Israel%2C+assuring+them+that+while+such+an+attack+would+annihilate+Israel&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=2&gs_upl=3593l12496l2l12525l37l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8089413501c19114&biw=1024&bih=605
I call B.S.
I don't read or speak Farsi.
Do You?
The French blog you link to purports to quote an IPS story. IPS is English-language. IPS apparently never ran any such story.
I don't speak any Farsi, but - given that this is a false trail - no one needs to speak Farsi to know your claim is false.
Thanks for playing ...
The French blog is IPS. IPS is an english language blog from France put out by Iranian exiles.
I'll save time it is obviously evil zionista media myth.
But thanks for playing.
I don't have to poll the majority of mullah, imam and ayatollah opinion to know it does not radically differ.
Most people in the world think of IPS as meaning this: http://ipsnews.net/
But I see now that the French news site is adopting the same initials as the world-renowned Inter Press Services.
I guess Calcutta Nightly News could also adopt the initials CNN ...
This google search should give you enough information to start for confirmation of what the Mad Mullah said in his speech.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=CrPHh5SbeTg5O6mQmyT47Q&cp=23&gs_id=20&xhr=t&q=rafsanjani+nuclear+bomb&pq=rafsanjani&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=rafsanjani+nuclear+bomb&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=bc6f26b4cedd3746&biw=1385&bih=695
I say you have no interest in the truth about what Iran intends to do with a nuclear weapon. It does not fit with your understanding of how the world works.
Surprise, Geo Wash. The Mad Mullahs don't use your standards.
It is you who have swallowed the BS, on this and the Sigsby Salt.
So what?
Well done little student. The Mullahs will reward you with one of the virgin young boys.
The lessons of the apologists have been effective in giving you the ability to disregard the dangers of a nuclear war.
Augustus, please read what the actual American and Israeli experts say (quoted in the main article above), not what the Neocons and Neolibs say ...
that might hurt his eyes
I am against USA's imperialist/interventionist adventures,and forcing regime change but to think that Syria really is going to play nice with their own people and hold free and fair elections(heck we can't even have free and fair elections in the USA) and write up a new constitution and to promote that in the article and say...See look ASSAD is a good man...is hogwash.
Democracy can not exist where inhabitants don't want it. Assad is a tyrant, Obama is a tyrant and Bush was a tyrant.
Probably few here are fans of Govt of any description, let alone Assad's.
But don't forget what happened in Libya.
The killing has not stopped in Libya, it has just moved into a new phase, much like Iraq did after Sadam's regime change.
Do we need to support the creation of another destroyed state, where war becomes potentially endless, simply to replace one tyrant (who kept 'order', built vital infrastructure, and kept the food, water, shelter, medical care and electricity coming, and attempted to defend Syria from Jewish land stealing) with another western-backed tyrant (and those are usually the very worst kind of murderous tyrant) who destroys all semblance of order, and provision, and replaces it with murder, warfare and endless deprivation and decay, as western corps(e) loot everything they have?
Do you think it would go better than in Libya?
Like it or not, we have no business at all messing with Syria, and the West and Russia both agree that effectively western-backed foreign forces are deeply involved in fuelling the death toll and physical destruction that is occurring.
On the contrary, we should put the western MSM and all western politicians in their place for even suggesting a western-backed civil-war and regime-change is the natural 'solution' now in Syria, when the reverse is clearly the only acceptable medium and long term option for the people of Syria.
If the People of certain areas want to fight it out then let them! Live by the sword, die by the sword, that is the deal. If they start a fight it is their fight. No one 'owes' them any thing, let alone protection for starting a dumb and pointless fight.
I warned about this exact same thing in Libya, and if that was what we had done there, that country would not be facing a multi-year if not multi-decade insurgent tribal conflict that is in the process of unfolding.
I am totally comfortable with my position in that case, and I suggest that the civil combatants and foreign forces in Syria negotiate a settlement, before it's too late for them, because I am absolutely confident that Assad and Russia, plus China, Hezbollah, Hamas, the West Bank populous, and especially Iran have no intent of allowing Damascus to become another brutal corrupt western-puppet regime, functioning and existing at the behest of zionist banksters.
It ain't gonna be allowed.
If it were established it would simply be torn down (and Bagdad and Kabul would go with it).
It's time to make sure the MSM lie machine and globalist politicians understand this is not an option.
So what?
Red or Blue, they both follow the same marching orders from their masters above
So what?
Al-CIAda wasn't in Iraq until after the U.S. invaded.
I am not so sure that the cause of the uprising in Syria is that the US and Israel have supported some opposition groups.
I suspect that the fact that a religious minority, the Alawis, which constitute only 15 % of the population controls the government is an important source of discontent among the majority of the population (which are Sunni Muslims).
Unemployment and other economic problems have probably also caused discontent among the population. But it is much harder to fight an uprising if people feel that the government is controlled by some kind of pagans.
I don´t know whether the US and Israel would like to replace the Alawi rule with Sunni Muslim rule. In any case I have so far not found any strong argument for that. Perhaps there is such an argument, I´m not an expert on Syria. If anybody knows more than me, please let me know.
My impression is that the easiest solution to the problems in Syria is to let each religious group have their own part of the country. But perhaps it is hard to implement this kind of solution if the Alawi percentage of the population is not large enough from the beginning in any part of the country. Also remember that the Alawis were an oppressed minority before the French rule and are considered as pagans by many Muslims. So I guess that the Alawis don´t want to become a minority which doesn´t rule the country.
So what?
Here in the uS we have a similar problem where an even smaller % (globalists) have usurped lawful government.
I like your idea though, perhaps we give religious groups here a chunk of the country. The Catholics can have the drug eaten mexican southwest, the Bible belt can pray at football games again, the east coast can continue into the abyss of debauchery, and the Mountain states can be "extremists" without being labeled so by the real terrorists.
Or we can just return the Constitutional law where groups do not have rights over individuals ie the Republic. Something to consider...
III
Top U.S. intelligence officials told Congress Thursday that the CIA operating in Iraq (under the code-name "al-Qaida") was likely behind a series of bombings against the Syrian regime in recent months.
Fixed it.
So what?
Hey GW....
Are you going to write anything about Heartland and "Deniergate"???
It's right up your alley....
Scoreboard update:
Iran actively funds and arms people who attack US interests. Such as Hezbollah, the Shiites in Iraq,
Abu Nadal and others. All obviously controlled by the CIA and Mossad.
But they are not at war with the US, funding and arming attacks vs another country is not an act of war anymore.
OF course 9/11 was the result of an evil zionista plan, like believing Iran could take down the evil petro dollar,
pretty much have to be a complete and total fucvking imbecile which is exactly whom you cater too.
Aslam Alekem, anchors to the human race since dirt turned brown could not exist without total fucking imbeciles such as yourself enabling and promoting them.
Yea grow up and post what you know, fanatical ignorant fukktard posting from some ivory tower in the sky who's closest point to islam has been an ocean away.
So what?
Is your computer infected with a looping text virus of some kind? Please try to add something other than "so what?" to a discussion.
You've got to be an Islamic troll.
I'm giving you an up vote. You are radioactive.
whatever he is, he's not good at it
@psychobilly
Reese Bobby is quoting GW Bush from the video. Bush, one hell of a war criminal.
So What?
BTW the former Eastern Bloc, much of Latin America and some of Asia thank you as well.
They did the impossible. THey discovered oil around 100yrs ago and the people of the region ARE RELATIVELY WORSE OFF SINCE.
As much of the Eastern Bloc, Latin America and some of Asia have now passed the middle east in every substantive measure of the human race.
Cause afterall without the evil zionistas the middle east was a paragon of peace for the previous thousand years.
Aslam Alekem
So what?
Common sense would suggest that a war in the Straits of Hormuz would be counter-productive for petroleum importers such as EU and the US. It would take little to close the Straits, the sinking of a couple of tankers or other ships in the correct locations would block the Straits. Under the threat of hostile fire, salvage would be difficult/impossible.
Also, sea mines would effectively close the Straits.
The Iranians under attack would be difficult to defeat, they have thousands of rockets and a long coastline from which to select vulnerable targets. There are multitudes of small boats any one of which can carry a rocket that can sink an oil tanker. Sinking a couple of tankers would stifle transport as no shipper would risk both his ship and cargo, insurance would be impossible to obtain.
All of Iraqi, all if Kuwaiti and most of Saudia's production and export facilities are across the Persian Gulf from Iran and are within range of rockets. It would take very little to slow or shut down Gulf production or tanker export. There is a pipeline project between Saudi terminals and Arabian Sea but this is unfinished. Iran does not have to have a slugging match with US warships. A long sequence of attacks on Saudi/Gulf terminals would cut oil exports effecting both exporters and the rest of the world.
If the Iranians wanted to attack US ships, it could do so easily by using a few of its rockets, using its air force and some of its thousands of small boats. The US task forces cannot defend against every attack at once and the consequence would be the sinking of American ships, perhaps an aircraft carrier.
The Americans have no idea what they would 'win' in such a war. Destabilizing governments and creating failed states has been the best the US can do: Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Sudan, Nigeria, Etc. It is hard to see where a failed Iran can produce 2.8 million barrels per day. The creation of another failed state is not worth the cost of one US aircraft carrier and the accompanying loss of prestige and 'invincibility'.
How long could the West do without the 20million barrels per day that flow from the Gulf? Keep in mind, the Iranians would also likely cut their own exports even though the economic costs would be high. The Iranians would issue scrip and reject the so-called 'hard currencies' of the countries that are attacking them: dollar and euro. The Iranian economy would function with food imports from Russia and China. Keep in mind all exporters accept all currencies that are liquid in F/X markets, there is no specific 'oil currency'.
The US would open strategic reserve but this would be 'tapped out within two or three months unless there was stringent rationing. Demanding that Americans not drive would cause a tremendous backlash. If the 1980s tanker war is a guide, the Straits can be kept closed for months, even years. At the end of that time, the world's economies will be collapsed as the previous fuel shortfalls have been of the order of -5% or less. The proposed shortfall would be over 20%.
A question is whether the Russians and Chinese would stand aside and let the US have its way with Iran. Answer is no, the countries would provide military aid to the Iranians, even manpower. If the situation becomes more severe, look to the Russians to 'lend' medium-range nuclear missiles to Iran under a lease agreement.
Also keep in mind, due to oil-field dynamics, once the Straits were cleared -- a victory for Iran and the typical failure of the US -- the oil production will be much less than before the shut-down. There will be a permanent shortfall of 3-5%. Oil fields that are in 'overproduction' that is, using tertiary recovery methods such as Iranian, Saudi and other fields, cannot be restored to previous level of output if they are shut down.
This is bollocks, where are you getting this notion from?
Have you had a look at the bathymetry? It's deeper than you think.
Look at the length and draft of fully-loaded super-tankers.
Now look at the depth of the strait.
Look at the width and area of strait below the keel of a fully-loaded tanker.
Still think it's so easy to block?
And who the hell cares about salvage?!
There will be no protracted operation to 'clear' the channel of wrecks in the event of hostilities.
Have you considered that the USN can pulverise and disintegrate an large sunken structure like a ship with conventional demolition explosives in under 24 hours?
You understand special-forces clearance divers with demolition charges routinely deploy with specialised variants of US SSNs? That they are trained to use demolition charges for just such clearance operations, in combat?
What there will be is an extremely large oil slick, but this was the case during Desert Storm as well, and prior, during the tanker war.
This has more or less all happened before, only the scale, intensity and duration would vary.
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Yes, sea mines, in conjunction with ASMs (and let's not forget or under-rate Iran's ruthlessly effective modern torpedos) would close the Strait and greatly frustrate if not preclude practical SSN and DDG operations within the strait, for at least several weeks (and it's possible to argue-out why that will be so) and possibly several months. If the Iranians use special forces to attach limpet mines, and/or to attack with short-range rockets and torpedos, the tankers will not get back in there in large numbers for many months.
I think we must presume they would resort to using anti-ship IEDs, and destroy docking, loading and storage facilities with inertial and TV guided ballistic missiles. Russian sources suggest Iran has a couple of hundred thousand ballistic missiles designed to achieve such outcomes. In other words, they intend to saturate US SAM defences with far more ballistic and multirole land and ship attack cruise missiles than the US has PAC3 and SMx's etc., to defeat them. They are sacrificing quality for quantity. Once the USN runs low on missiles in VLS systems, and PAC3 boxes also, it takes time to reload and resupply these systems. Iran soon has the advantage in that case.
Never forget that they have been preparing and stockpiling for over 30 years. The reality that they can supply Hezbollah with so many rockets and apparently very effective guided missiles, in 2006, is testament to their efforts.
The US/NATO would be in for a hell of a fight, and this ignores any Russian and Chinese assistance and intervention.
So what?
The Iranians are doing us a favor if they close those Straits. Only now are they realizing they really SHOULD cut off the oil to Europe.