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The people pushing for war against Iran are the same neocons who pushed for war against Iraq. See this and this. (They planned both wars at least 20 years ago.)

The IAEA report being trumpted as a casus belli contains no new information, but is based on a re-hashing of old, debunked claims stemming from “laptop documents”.

Wikileaks documents reveal that the new IAEA head was heavily backed by the U.S., based upon his promises of fealty to the U.S.  Indeed, as we’ve seen in the nuclear energy arena, the IAEA is not a neutral, fact-based organization, but a wholly-captured, political agency.

27551 The U.S. Government Funded the Iranian Terrorist Group Which Found The Documents Upon Which the Warmongers Are Relying

But where did the documents come from originally?

As Gareth Porter noted in 2008:

The George W. Bush administration has long pushed the “laptop documents” – 1,000 pages of technical documents supposedly from a stolen Iranian laptop – as hard evidence of Iranian intentions to build a nuclear weapon. Now charges based on those documents pose the only remaining obstacles to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) declaring that Iran has resolved all unanswered questions about its nuclear programme.

But those documents have long been regarded with great suspicion by U.S. and foreign analysts. German officials have identified the source of the laptop documents in November 2004 as the Mujahideen e Khalq (MEK), which along with its political arm, the National Council of Resistance in Iran (NCRI), is listed by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist organisation.

Interestingly, the Bush Administration – and especially Dick Cheney – helped to fund the MEK (see confirming articles here and here).

And the New York Times, Washington Post and others are reporting that Rudy Giuliani, former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, former national security adviser Fran Townsend and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey are supporting the MEK as well.

So the terrorist group which “found” the documents is funded by neoconservatives who want to overthrow Iran. What a coincidence!

Iran Iraq The U.S. Government Funded the Iranian Terrorist Group Which Found The Documents Upon Which the Warmongers Are Relying

And as Gareth Porter notes in the above-linked article, the Mossad may have created the documents in the first place:

There are some indications, moreover, that the MEK obtained the documents not from an Iranian source but from Israel’s Mossad.

 

One thing is clear: the U.S. and its allies have a long history of using forged documents as an excuse for war.

 


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Sun, 02/26/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment dizzyfingers
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Oligarchs: (here comes war, good for [banking cartel] business) The U.S. Government Funded the Iranian Terrorist Group Which “Found” The Documents Upon Which the Warmongers Are Relying

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment arg
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Thu, 01/19/2012 - 04:08 | Link to Comment Element
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Interesting ... people are really taking notice of everything they do or say.

How long until AIPAC is finally declared a proscribed terrorist organisation?

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 10:59 | Link to Comment AchtungAffen
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On the Beach, bitches...

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 08:40 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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Question, off topic. If a darker skinned people, say, the Egyptians, migrated to northern Europe, how many generations, assuming they didn't intermarry with the Europeans, would it take for them to become as light-skinned as the Europeans? This is a matter of scientific interest, but it is hard to find any discussion of it in reputable venues. It is not meant as a racist question at all.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 07:31 | Link to Comment onthesquare
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 long history of using forged documents as an excuse for war.

"By way of deception thou shall wage war"  Mossad motto

that makes it a conspiracy

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 07:46 | Link to Comment Element
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Wikileaks documents reveal that the new IAEA head was heavily backed by the U.S., based upon his promises of fealty to the U.S.  Indeed, as we’ve seen in the nuclear energy arena, the IAEA is not a neutral, fact-based organization, but a wholly-captured, political agency.

 

George, I would go further, that the entire NPT is a US geopolitical global Stalking-Horse and the IAEA is just a shit-eating parasite that thrives in its butt crack.

 

"A stalking horse is a person who tests a concept with someone or mounts a challenge against them on behalf of an anonymous third party. If the idea proves viable and/or popular, the anonymous figure can then declare their interest and advance the concept with little risk of failure. If the concept fails, the anonymous party will not be tainted by association and can either drop the idea completely or bide their time and wait until a better moment for launching an attack." - WikiPedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking-horse

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 06:52 | Link to Comment Shylockracy
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The neocons are?

a) a race

b) a religion

c) an international crime syndicate

d) racial supremacists with a political project

e) all of the above

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 05:13 | Link to Comment Heliopod
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I feel sad, I am going to Graduate Highschool in 2 and a half years, and I live in a country that is ripping itself to peices

I don't want to live in this world

Good thing we still got Jesus 

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 08:24 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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Pay no mind to Mr. Orthodoxy in the comment following yours. Trust your instincts.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 05:35 | Link to Comment Colonial Intent
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And that last line tells you all that is wrong with the american education system.

If you had educated your people with values and morals that allow them to fuction as human beings rather than wage slaves, you would not need to believe that goblins, faries and trolls will magically appear and save you.

Some arab/african socialist guy who gave out free healthcare and was anti capitalist (threw the bankers out of the temple) is not a man worthy of worship, he was a terrorist.

In fact the only historically dated record of jesus is from pilates diary,  Pilate had dinner with his chief torturer, he told pilate about the only prisoner he failed to break, his name was jesus.

Maybe 2000 years from now a realigion will be based on the testimony of Cheney's diary about the only guy in america who didnt suck his cock for money while he was in office.....

 

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 04:15 | Link to Comment Element
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It would be very easy to just say Iran aren't involved in nuclear weapon development, but that would be unbelievable nonsense than I could never accept as in any way credible.

Look, the West may be concocting a case and fermenting a pretext, but I'm just going to say that anyone who thinks Iran isn't developing (i.e. has almost certainly developed) nuclear munitions is not facing known facts, the timeline of events, and basic strategic imperatives and motivations of Iran's reality for the past 30+ years.

I would also add that any person who thinks that all of the Iran's enrichment capacity and operations are out in the open, a known quantity, is not someone I would accept had a clue.

It would be very ill-advised at this stage for any country to presume Iran doesn't have nukes. The 'logic' that says, "oh, they almost have them, so we have to attack them now with overwhelming force", is the logic that will in fact lead to an inevitable mutual nuclear annihilation.

Iran most probably can deliver low yield tactical nukes right now if push came to shove in a big way.

Iran are NOT going to tell the world they have nukes and more than Pakistan did.

Pakistan had them for most of a decade before India conducted their second test series.

It was only after India directly challenged them to show their hand, via that test event, that the reality that Pakistan had a nuclear arsenal dawned on the world in a tangible way.

The US is essentially trying to get Iran to show its hand.  They want to find out if Iran really is nuclear armed yet.

The thing that holds the US in check is the uncertainty.

Ambiguity is always better with nukes, especially when you don't have many.

I don't believe Iran is bluffing about the US not understanding Iran's military "capabilities".

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 04:18 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Pentagon and all US intelligence agencies agree "unanimously" and with "high confidence" that Iran has no nuclear weapons and are not seeking to develop them. What information do you have which allows you to call their professional judgement into question?

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 04:43 | Link to Comment Element
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Colin Powell 4-Star General, Secretary of State, privy to all briefings going--knew all about chem-vans and the assorted chocolate-coated WMDs that were ready to hit London within about 25 minutes of launch.

Except he didn't know ANYTHING, because they didn't even exist.

Iraq showed that US Intelligence services will produce any reality required by the political winds of fortune.

People like you seem to want to pretend that it was just the politicians who were involved in doing that.

The system was corrupt, and that's how it happened.

It's more corrupt now than ever before.

I'm surprised you can't see that.

US officials also don't know everything (no sorry, they aren't actually infallible, you realise that don't you, or are you an avid 'believer' in what they claim to be real ... have you ever posted here about false-flag attacks, per chance?).

And they certainly never tell the truth, especially when ramping up to a war.

The exact reverse is the norm.

 

 

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 05:48 | Link to Comment Rick64
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There are credible sources in the Intelligence agencies and military, but when they don't support the agenda then they are coerced,ignored, or replaced by the propaganda supporters.

As Army Chief of Staff, General Shinseki testified to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that "something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers" would probably be required for postwar Iraq. This was an estimate far higher than the figure being proposed by Secretary Rumsfeld in his invasion plan, and it was rejected in strong language by both Rumsfeld and his Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz, who was another chief planner of the invasion and occupation.[7] From then on, Shinseki's influence on the Joint Chiefs of Staff reportedly waned.[8]

 He retired in 2003. There are many examples of this

According to a report by veteran investigative journalist Bob Woodward in his book Plan of Attack, Tenet privately lent his personal authority to the intelligence reports about weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in Iraq.[27] At a meeting on December 12, 2002, he assured Bush that the evidence that Iraq had WMDs amounted to a "slam dunk case." After several months of refusing to confirm this statement, Tenet stated that it was taken out of context. He indicated that it was made pursuant to a discussion about how to convince the American people to support invading Iraq.[28] The search following the 2003 invasion of Iraq by U.S., British and international forces yielded no significant WMDs.

It looks like George Tenet was pressured into his reversal of opinion by the Bush administration in order to persuade the American public, but there was a difference of opinions. He also disputed the yellow cake from Nigeria claims. I know they found 550 tons of yellow cake uranium in Iraq, but this wasn't weapons grade and was legally stored by Saddam. It was also common knowledge that he had it.  Tenet retired in 2004 taking much of the blame for the false info, and was replaced by Porter Goss who was 100% pro neocon agenda.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 05:54 | Link to Comment Element
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Exactly, the system is entrained in corruption, and it is more corrupt now than ever.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 04:45 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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In 2003 Colin Powell was a politician, not an intelligence professional. The politicians ignored the professionals and cooked the intelligence regarding Iraq. The politicians are doing the same thing with Iran. The Pentagon and US intelligence agencies have asserted that Iran has no bomb and so US politicians are now using the debunked IAEA report to spin things toward war.

But tell me if you can what evidence you personally have which indicates that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 07:42 | Link to Comment onthesquare
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The arguement is mute at this point in time.  I am quite sure the proof will come out once Iran is invaded and leveled to the ground.  Then the bunkers will be discovered and the sceptics will see that the US was right in their intelligence and in their responsibility to invade Iran. 

There will be no egg on anyones face this time.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 09:27 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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is a mute point a point so moot it doesn't make a sound?

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 16:42 | Link to Comment GoinFawr
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I think so, for all intensive purposes anyway.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 08:01 | Link to Comment Element
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oh dear ... 'we' ... are invading Iran now

dude, you really should use the /sarc switch with stuff like that

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 06:21 | Link to Comment Element
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If you say to me:

The Pentagon and all US intelligence agencies agree "unanimously" and with "high confidence" that Iran has no nuclear weapons and are not seeking to develop them.

Then I'm afraid you'll just have to accept or reject that I'm not the slightest bit impressed by that and do not attach credence to it.

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I made it fairly clear for why I think the way I do about this within these two comments:  I see no reason to type another for you at this point:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iaea-confirms-iran-has-started-20-uranium-...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iaea-confirms-iran-has-started-20-uranium-...

We know Abdul Qadeer Khan proliferated the Pakistani (URENCO) enrichment technology to Iran in 1989 and possibly as early as 1987.

That's 22 to 24 years ago.

Pakistan built their bombs with it.

Do you seriously think Iran didn't do so too?

It took the USA about 2.5 years to enrich enough HEU for two Hiroshima bombs using experimental techniques, not even knowing if it would work.

The pakis and Iranians knew it definitely did work.

Iran, in 1989, was at the end of a shockingly bloody war with Iraq, armed stand-off with USN in their own home water ways. They watched the Russians occupy neighbouring Afghanistan and pulverise it in a proxy-war with the US.  Then they saw Sadam get set-up and knocked down in Desert Storm. They saw the heavy financial and trade sanctions and weapons embargo on Iraq after, and the endless inspector's visits. They watched the endless air strikes within UN no-fly-zones in Southern and Northern Iraq, when Iraqi Sovereignty had been usurped. They saw hundreds of thousands of people sicken from chronic malnutrition and die. The saw sectarian slaughter of Shia Iraqis under no-fly zones. They watched a modern Arab country torn to pieces by cumulative economic and infrastructure damage. They saw the total humiliation of the Iraqi military.  They saw the Iraqi Museums and historical sites trashed, and artefacts stolen. The watched the DISGUSTING OUTRAGEOUS SHAM of the UN's Oil-for-Food Program.

Oil for  F O O D  ... for fuck's sake!

Then Bush and Cheney and Powell simply created a pretext and invaded Iraq anyway.

Iranians had a front row seat on this whole sick evil farce.

And George Bush called Iran part of an "Axis of Evil", as he announced a change to US Nuclear Doctrine to allow pre-emptive nuclear strikes.

Iran watch this shit storm in horror since 1979.

They got the Paki centrifuge tech by 1989.

If you expect me to draw the conclusion that Iran has been sitting on its hands for 22 years, then you're just going to have to accept that I think that's a completely rediculous proposition.

I don't need a US intelligence agency to assert what Iran did with that technology.

I know what they did, they developed bombs.

And I fully expect that my assessment will turn out to be the correct one, and that the official US assessment as we now have it, will turn out to be a mellange of delusional hopey bull-crap.

But tell me if you can what evidence you personally have which indicates that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons.

I do not accept your attempt to place the onus on me.

Frankly, I would like to see the US explain why it seriously expects any realist to accept that Iran simply must sat on its hands, when Pakistan sure didn't, and given that all along Iran was a specific and direct target of both Israel, USA and NATO?  Are we really expected to believe Iran lacked due cause, motivation, skill, materials, or the will to do so?

Why? ... are they all prevert commie tree-hugging peace-nics, after all?

 
Iran may clarify the situation beyond all dispute, in the near future.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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What I find ironic is that if what you say is true, then an attack on Iran could result in Iran instantly nuking Israel. Perhaps the Israelis have a self-destructive streak? Or perhaps Obama is tired of dealing with Netanyahu, as he told Sarkozy?

I would think that the Iranians would be more secure if they boasted that they do have deliverable nuclear weapons. Then nobody would attact them, just like nobody attacks North Korea.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 16:59 | Link to Comment GoinFawr
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And that last bit Ec, is one helluvan excellent suggestion.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 03:25 | Link to Comment carlsbadip
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Whether the crazed believe or not, you were going have to deal Saddam. Better that you dealt with him on your terms and not his. The stupidity was staying after you overthrew him and then he was executed by those without right hands. Time to have left Iraq at the latest was after he was hanged.  Staying was stupid because it showed how weak the US really was.

Iran is a country of 60 million people with more than half under 30. No war here because our army would have to triple in size immediately  and navy would have to grow twice its size for logistical support.   That will not happen.  

The failure to back the protest was foolish, but Obama wants Iran to have Nukes to counterbalance Israel. Unfortunately, like with Lenin and Hitler, nobody really believes Iran wishes to destroy Israel.  Obama is his Father's son, which means a true believer in anti-colonial socialism where the ends will always justify the means.  Iran is the emerging former colony having to fight the Israeli colonialists. 

The Israelis may align with China to solve this problem. They work closely on a number of projects.   China wants oil. Since they already have at least 30 million more men than woman because of the one child policy and that child having for many to be a boy, they have the bodies to throw at Iran to seize the oil.  If they did, the US could do nothing. 

The killing of scientists is an Israeli operation. The US Intelligence capability is more technology, signint, and drones. The US has no capability to really do an an A-1 job. For years, the US hired the French to do such work because the US was so bad at it. 

The Israelis will never cease in their attempts to prevent Iran from getting nukes.   

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 03:32 | Link to Comment CrockettAlmanac.com
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Had to deal with Saddam? The US did deal with Saddam. The US sold him arms including the precursors to the gas which he used against the Kurds.

In 2003 Saddam said he had no WMDs. Rumsfeld said he did. Rumsfeld said he knew where the weapons were. But apparently Rumsfeld did not relay that information to the weapons inspectors who were actively looking for those weapons. Instead, the weapons inspectors were pulled out so that the bombing campaign could begin. When all was said and done it turned out that Saddam was telling the truth. He had no WMDs. Hundreds of thousand of civilians were killed. How does that make any sense?

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 05:51 | Link to Comment Rick64
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 The WMD so called proof came from a known liar and less than credible source called Curveball.

Despite warnings from the German Federal Intelligence Service questioning the authenticity of the claims, the US Government utilized them to build a rationale for military action in the lead up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, including in the 2003 State of the Union address, where President Bush said "we know that Iraq, in the late 1990s, had several mobile biological weapons labs", and Colin Powell's presentation to the UN Security Council, which contained a computer generated image of a mobile biological weapons laboratory.

In a February 2011 interview with the Guardian he "admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war."[

England and the U.S. were selling weapons to Iraq ( England was selling to both sides, Thatcher's son was a middleman for weapon sales in the ME). Bechtel Corp. was building a chemical plant in Iraq in 1988. Just adding to your argument.

 

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 02:25 | Link to Comment Crate kicker 7
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Some of you Anti-semitic, anti-conservative (cause thier all neo-cons you know) pricks really make it hard to enjoy what little useful information comes out of ZH. I know, why don't you all get your white hoods, nazi uniforms, and progressive banners (Che douche Guave and peoples fist and all) and stand out on the corners of wall street to show OWS what its all about..

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 02:23 | Link to Comment resurger
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Troll at me Bruh!

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 01:33 | Link to Comment aerial view
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Perpetual wars: the biggest business on the planet as well as the best way to take away more freedoms and exert more control over people. Three cheers for the psychopaths-not!

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 00:13 | Link to Comment Lazane
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"The ability of the human mind to reject the intrusion of knowledge is infinite"

 

 

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:54 | Link to Comment xcehn
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Well some terrorists are patriots and others are hoodlums.  The war on terrorism is confusing at first glance to the uninitiated. Whatever the US dishes, the Iranians are patiently awaiting to return the favour. 

"Iran used the chaos in the aftermath of the invasion to settle scores from the Iran-Iraq war, an eight-year slug fest from 1980 to 1988 in which an estimated 500,000 Iranians and Iraqis died. The war was largely a bloody standoff that resembled World War I at times with trench warfare, poison gas, human wave and bayonet attacks. Iran, however, has taken a special vengeance on the pilots of the Iraqi air force and the lawlessness that followed the collapse of Saddam's regime gave Iran its opportunity. In addition to the 182 pilots who have been hunted down and killed by Iranian agents, the assassination campaign prompted another 800 Iraqi pilots to flee the country, according to statistics released by the Iraqi Defense Ministry."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/iranian-revenge-iraqi-air-force-pilo...

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:40 | Link to Comment honestann
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Another neo-con-job.

The neo-cons are the biggest, baddest terrorists - ever.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:13 | Link to Comment bobby.123
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Yup, but it has been damn good for China's economy, seeing as how they make all those American bullets (rounds we call them) expended in combat and practise, and all those other munitions for the military machine, and all those chips and digital electronics (computers, etc.) stuff, and all those biopharmaceuticals (some of which occasionally poison the patients), and how about all that derivatives processing they do????

 

http://www.ridpiles.com

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 02:35 | Link to Comment Crate kicker 7
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Can't tell if sarcastic or your head is up your arse???

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:02 | Link to Comment frostfan
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Gee what a surprise, another article by GW full of multiple innuendos to conclude that  USA/Israel/Mossad/CIA is the source of all the world's timelines.   GW also didn't make it easy this time.  He could have put together a timeline of everything but that might be easier to contradict than the innuendo trail of links he made.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Slartebartfast
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There sure are a lot of Government trolls on ZH these days!

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 09:10 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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it must be making a dent

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:43 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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They're israel-firsters, not necessarily government trolls but more likely on the AIPAC or the ADL payroll or just run-of-the-mill jewish supremacists.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 00:30 | Link to Comment frostfan
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no no no just go with government control.   Every thing and every one is a conspiracy to you so make up whatever you need me to be, just like GW's theories.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 04:50 | Link to Comment 4horse
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ff

finally that beautiful haiku

which is just simply  f  u 

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 02:06 | Link to Comment Bartanist
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Guessing AIPAC troll. One finds them all over the bulletin boards these days.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Mary Wilbur
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Just what we need -- another conspiracy theory. It must have a higher meaning than the usual.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 22:54 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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So do you think Russia and/or China would get involved in the Iran conflict?  The US would have to be completely insane, there is no winning a war with Russia and China. 

I hear 2 theories, peak oil and the worlds awash with it.  Which fucking is it? 

The only thing I can figure is that the elite really are fucking nuts.

And now that people can't afford to buy new and are all broke we get SOPA shoved up our asses to close down sites like ebay and craigslist.

I'm really starting to hate living in the US but have no resources and a wife and father that live with me that are completely stupid on this subject thanks to foxs news.

Of course I really have doubts of anywhere on the planet being safe, not with the likes of the US on it.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:27 | Link to Comment robobbob
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I dinged you for the fox bash. if you haven't figured out that they are players for the same team as the rest of the MSM, then you are as much of the problem as the relatives you are complaining about. Do you like the Red kool aid, or the Blue? Just the same sugar water being served up by the same PTB. Better wake up before you find Jim Jones is the one doing the mixing.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:10 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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Right, i've read that a few times.  But would they really react when the US has enough nukes to blow up the Earth 25,000x?  Someone would have to decide to either deal with it or to end life on the planet.  Conversely Russia knows there is no winning a war against the US.  Any exchange of fire between the US and Russia is a meaningless act because they both of the nukes and that's what it would come down to. Insane.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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that aside, something's wrong with the home team when we look to Russia and China to help save our democracy

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 23:35 | Link to Comment robobbob
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we've been down that road before

a) do we (not including the MIC) want a return of the cold war?

b) can America even remotely afford a return of a hostile Russia?

c) who says a new cold war will end as peacefully as the last?

d) even without going hot, Russia could make life REALLY unpleasant, especially picking up all of those frightened EM countries looking for an alternative to the NWO?

e) since when is ANY of this international meddling covered under the constitution?

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