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Why Are We Fighting On the Same Side with Al Qaeda?

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Reuters notes that the leader of Al Qaeda - Ayman al-Zawahri - is backing the Syrian rebels, and asking his followers to fight the Syrian government.

Some of the main Al Qaeda fighters who overthrew Gadaffi - and now appear to be in control of Libya - are already helping the Syrian rebels.

This is curious, given that the U.S. is considering military options for ousting the Syrian government, American allies Britain and Qatar allegedly already have foreign troops inside Syria, and the U.S. has been planning regime change in Syria for over 50 years.

Mainstream reports also state that the U.S. and its allies are backing Iranian terrorists.

I thought Al Qaeda was America's mortal enemy. Why are we backing terrorists?

 

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Sun, 02/12/2012 - 23:52 | 2152489 smb12321
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These poster who know the details of all these "secret" plans must have gotten the message wrong from the mother ship.  It's hilarious (and pathetic) that folks give a URL to a You Tube video with scary music as their "proof" of some nutty conspiracy.   They simply can't accept that things happen not because of nefarious cabals in the North Pole but sheer human muckishness.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:39 | 2152213 my puppy for prez
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It won"t be a bloody coup....it will be called the banker Amero and North American Union.  That was easy!

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:28 | 2151878 blindman
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@.."Why are we backing terrorists?"
because the terrorist enemy #1 of my terrorist
competition #2 is my terrorist ally #1.
it is a banking thing, like tranches of cdo's?
i think william did a flow chart on it.
the fed funds everybody.
seriously, perhaps because all international
diplomacy has devolved into terrorism of the strong
against the weak who happened to be born in the
wrong place at the wrong time and those who should
know better have lost their minds in their lust for
what they think is power but is just residual pain and
masochistic self hatred and inter-generational torment.
remember, we live among those who think that the
logistics of terrorism is genius, profitable and rightly
funded by your tax dollars.
or maybe it is because we are the terrorists? the tsa,
hls seem to think so. you may be on to something here?
it is all double speak. our operations are strategic,
everyone else's are suspect and terrorist's.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:44 | 2152227 Money 4 Nothing
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An invisible, mobile enemy which holds no borders. Boogie man. Our war on Terror, not to be confused with our war on drugs, allows us to be fully autonomous in the global arena of state sponsored terrorism, No borders was the intent, to be able to deploy troops anywhere without hearing alot of shit from other countries.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 19:12 | 2155633 blindman
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this beyond border power concept is banking, banking with
absolute enforcement authority. authority beyond the voice
of the, any and all, people. that sounds like global fascism
to me because it is global fascism. no complaining, thanks
anyway, or if you complain it amounts to nothing but a crime
or an inciting of a potential terrorist act; so speech is free
but also terroristic and therefore a crime, too. a free crime?
only tolerated by authority when committed by authority-authority
as defined by law, of course.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 11:39 | 2153544 GMadScientist
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they know when you've been sheeping

they know you're on the take

they know when you've been bad or worse

so be worse for jingo's sake

 

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:51 | 2151859 apberusdisvet
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OT:

I am surprised that neither GW nor any of the Tylers have a post yet on the firing, and thus marginalization, of Judge Napolitano;  perhaps the sole voice on the MSM daring to speak the truth

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:50 | 2151851 dumpster
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use both hands on the toilet

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:00 | 2151896 Money 4 Nothing
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Wipe with left.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:14 | 2151683 TerraHertz
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That's a rhetorical question, right? Like "Why is our right hand assisting our left hand?"

So, to state the obvious (to all except those who listen to the MSM)...

Because Al Qaeda means 'the base', which is slang for 'the toilet', but is also an abbreviation for 'the database'. The term refers to a list the CIA created during the Russian war in Afghanistan. A list of persons on the CIA payroll in Afghanistan and elsewhere, who were assisting the American/Israeli supply of arms to the Afghan resistance against the Russians, or were actually fighting the Russians. Bin Laden (aka Tim Osman) was a rich Saudi, from a family with close business ties to the Bush family. He acted as an intermediary in the supply of arms such as Israeli-made copies of American Stinger missiles to the Mujahadeen. At one point he also apparently helped the CIA and State Department arrange for a bunch of middle eastern low level minions to be given US passports (on the CIA's tab) to travel to the USA for some obscure intelligence operation he (and the minions) were not told anything about beforehand. Bin Laden found out what the operation was, via the TV news on the morning of 911. The minions were all apparently killed though none of them actually got on the planes in question that day. Most of the names used for their passports turned out to be of real people elsewhere in the world, who have been trying to clear their names ever since. Tim Osman was also dead within a couple of month (in early 2002), due to kidney failure while on the run from his former 'friends.'

After the Russians left, there was quite a lot of mission drift. Al Qaeda is now more or less a bunch of paid mercenaries for the USA. They get moved to where ever the US needs some terror, murder and chaos, often with the actual movement being via US military helicopters.

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them are ex-inmate 'graduates' from various US military secret prisons, aka torture centers, with more than a little experimental mind control technique thrown in for extra creepy mayhem and deniability.

 

http://everist.org/archives/links/!_Osama_Bin_Laden_links.txt

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:38 | 2152777 The Heart
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A+

Excellent reporting!

Thank you.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:20 | 2152766 Joseph Jones
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Bingo!  I'm reminded of Jon Krakhauer's book The Pat Tillman Story...he mentions a big military bust of an Al Qaeda training camp where the bomb making textbook was a CIA training manual we gave the Mujahadeen....SahWEEET! 

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 22:15 | 2151658 AN0NYM0US
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why is congress fast tracking FAA to integrate Drones?

why is DHS opening up the Pre program?

why are there no bankers in jail?

why is the FBI puting out tenders for monitoring Twitter activity (http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/61060-fbi-wants-to-scrape-twitt...)

WHY is GOOGLE fast track changing their privacy policy to integrate all of your google related online activity?

 

and Why do Google`s dear leaders block their flight plans, block their geo locations etc.?

 

and why do the banskster class in recent years hide their public propety records behind llc`s and fake name trusts?

 

 

etc.

 

Alternatively one can also ask:

Why was 56 yr old Goodwill worker Henry Martinez charged with Grand Theft by his employer for giving discounts to some of the poor people who shop at Goodwill? http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/feb/11/goodwill-worker-gave-away-ite...

(it`s fucking goodwill dumb emeffers)  Not one effing bankster has even been investigated and this poor bastard is thrown in the slammer for a total of thirteen hundred dollars of unauthorized discounts on used shit to poor people that he was trying to help.    F Goodwill who transform  free crap that rich folks don`t want  into a profit that helps to  pay their exectutives by selling that same crap to poor people

 

Why do people shop at Trader Joes ?  when they present themselves as natual and good but are in fact  beyond evil - Trader Joes only after huge protests agrees to sign a  Farm Workers fair trade agreement - Stupid effing farm workers not happy with fifty cents for picking 32 pounds of red half ripe tomatoes  Double F Trader Joes and all who shop there (especially those who shop there -  hypocrites all)

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110228/upper-west-side/farmworkers-demand-bette...

 

IF we at ZH can do one thing might I suggest that  we see that Trader Joes  is damned to hell for all of  eternity in compensation for their hypocrisy.  The only thing worse than a thieving bankster is a thieving bankster in shrubs clothing.  F TRADER JOES

 

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:49 | 2151580 MichaelNY
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"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Walt Kelly

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:41 | 2151551 Everybodys All ...
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this would be a good question to ask the president. Good luck on that one. You'll get the same answer you got for Egypt, Libya, etc. ... Arab Spring is worth our support.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:58 | 2151533 Money 4 Nothing
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Because Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski said it's "okay".

His Pedigree: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

This is an excellent read: http://www.rense.com/general81/abig.htm

 

Al Quaeda = good.

Muslim Brotherhood = good

Hezbolah = bad

Al Shabob = bad

Hamas, depends on who hires them for the month.

Islamic Jihad = good, Israels equivalant of Al Quaeda.

Taliban = Ragtag scapegoats for when shit goes sideways but nessesary.

Obama Administration = Bad.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 18:36 | 2151530 tony bonn
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al qaeda is a creature wholly of the cia and wholly for cia purposes....you aren't supposed to know this...every single regime change in the mena over the past 12 years has been a cia project....every single one

the cia is world's all time biggest terrorist organization and a mass murder without peer......the vietnam war comes to mind as does that foul phoenix program lead by william colby....he admitted that 60,000 civilians were murdered in cold blood....and who can forget 9/11 controlled building demolitions and the cruise missile fired at the pentagon to destroy some more enron papers...

i believe that when the truth comes out it will be shown that the mass genocide in cambodia under pol pot will be proven to be a cia operation.

 

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:41 | 2152215 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Great post Tony! Right on par with GW, radical islam has not been waging war with the US it is all  imaginary.

The USS Kohl attack=imaginary

THe Kenyan Embassy attack=imaginary

The nightclub in Bali=imaginary

the hostages=imaginary.

JFC could go on for two days here and not miss a beat.

So what the fukk is the excuse? Pretend otherwise or medicate to pretend otherwise,

or you just are radical islam?

 

 

 

 

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 08:31 | 2152939 my puppy for prez
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If your modus operandi is to swallow the "official" reports/history by the MSM/CIA/JCOS, then of course you are going to think Tony is crazy.  

You are arguing from a false premise based on Tavistock propaganda.  

I suggest you read deeper works from now on....maybe something like "The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations" by John Coleman, or even "Propaganda" by the master of lies himself, Edward Bernays.

Until then, you will go on believing that you know the TRUTH, which you obviously do not.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:46 | 2152779 The Heart
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Dare to google "Israel false flag."

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 23:44 | 2152457 Bringin It
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The Lavan affair Paneful.  Jews placing bombs in Cairo, in among other place US sites, to False-Flag Arabs with the terror attacks.  Ever here of that one Paneful?

On July 2, a post office in Alexandria was firebombed, and on July 14, the U.S. Information Agency libraries in Alexandria and Cairo, and a British-owned theater were bombed. ... Egyptian authorities arrested one suspect, Robert Dassa, when his bomb accidentally ignited prematurely in his pocket. Having searched his apartment, they found incriminating evidence and names of accomplices to the operation. Several suspects were arrested, including Egyptian Jews and undercover Israelis. 

And one wonders why the Arabs got so tetchy about the Jews in their midst. 

The events your post mentions are not imaginary, but the MSM story line regarding the events is.  Seems everyone but you Paneful, realizes the MSM is only full of bullshit.  [What's the hostages=imaginary??]

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:37 | 2152774 Bringin It
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Paneful - thanks for the red arrow.  Seems you didn't get the memo.  Many/most of the rabid zionistic supremecists have disappeared.  They were told to stand down to avoid calling out unpleasant facts like the Lavan Affair above.  Somehow, they forgot to tell you.  You must be isolated in some way ... Western Canada?

BTW, the impersonation you're trying to pull off has certain shades of the Levan Affair plan, doesn't it?  Pretending to be who you are not, laying waste, creating havoc, and eventually, disappearing while the Other takes the consequences??  Are you seeing it?  I am.

 

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 13:26 | 2154025 Xkwisetly Paneful
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So which is it folks?

Are radical islam seems to be the head and shoulders winner.

As the endless delusions continue ad finitum.

Aslam Alekem Brothers.

 BOL with the endless campaign to treat your women as sub humans, kill gays and stifle freedom of expression amongst others.

 

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:16 | 2152155 Bringin It
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Tony - nice post as usual.  william colby got snuffed at his retirement home.  Did you see that?

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:53 | 2151829 Money 4 Nothing
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I don't know about the whole pol pot thing, but I will look into it. Here is the hole in the Pentagon.

http://www.rense.com/general70/066-large.jpg

I just want to know how a 4 story tall 757 fit through this 7' hole at ground level. Anyone?

Source: http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 11:46 | 2153576 GMadScientist
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My war with the CIA: The memoirs of Prince Norodom Sihanouk.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 04:13 | 2152804 OldTrooper
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I just want to know how a 4 story tall 757 fit through this 7' hole at ground level. Anyone?

Uhmmm...lucky shot?

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:20 | 2152764 The Heart
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It didn't.

Add this one to the the list of anomalous ponderings.:

http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:01 | 2152091 Meremortal
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And I just want to know how a 7 foot diameter missle knocked down multiple lights poles over one hundred feet apart in the street in front of the Pentagon, knocking them down TOWARD the building, and leaving paint and metal marks on all the poles. That would be paint that matches that on the "lost" airliner. That Bush was thorough, man!

I also want to know where that airliner landed or crashed if it didn't hit the Pentagon. That's a big thing to lose.

I also want to know where all the people are now who were on the lost airliner that "didn't" hit the Pentagon.

I also want to know how my cousin, director of the Federal Black Lung Program in Washington D.C., watched an airliner fly into the Pentagon from about 1,200 feet away that day.

I also want to know what kind of missle has landing gear and tires that look much like those of an airliner, said landing gear and other parts are clearly visible in photographs taken at the scene by multiple persons. I've never seen a missle with landing gear, but that Bush didn't miss a trick! I though he was a total dumbass, looks like he was a genius instead to put this operation together!

I also want to know why an idiot would disappear 4 airliners, flying two (or missles, heh) into the WTC, when one would have done the job. Why massively complicate an already huge and difficult conspiracy?

 I also want to know how many people you estimate it would take to put on and cover up the entire 9/11 operation.

I also want to know how many air controllers watched the "missles" flying around and identified them as airliners, making them part of the conspiracy?

I have many more qestions, but that will do for now.

Hey, I'm just asking questions.

 

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 07:03 | 2152874 Colonial Intent
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Too many straws to snap so just this one for starters.

"I also want to know how many air controllers watched the "missles" flying around and identified them as airliners, making them part of the conspiracy?"

 

Know what a transponder is?

Thought not.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:51 | 2152783 The Heart
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Good unanswerable questions.

Here's one for you.

Have you watched this documentary in it's entirety?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2329092821935314404&ei=qSozSrXQA...

 

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:13 | 2152758 Milestones
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As Denninger keeps saying, do the math. Ground zero departure at 8:20 am and at 9:00 am they are 375 miles away from the Pentagon. That's 937 miles per hour. That plane was not a Concorde. Normal airspeed once at crusing level is appx 500 MPH.

More of what came out of a north bound bull heading south. 

Good post to both of you.              Milestones

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:49 | 2152146 Money 4 Nothing
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I was a contributing author to this information in this link. Because of my job back in 2001, I had excellent first hand documentation of the Pentagon incident. Please read, understand this is some of the best 9/11 evidence out there besides Pilot's for 9/11 truth. I became a first hand witness to alot of the Pentagon evidence.

 

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/pentagon/what-hit-it.htm

Picture of type of "Drone" UAV used here:

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

 

It was a jet powered weaponised drone built by Raytheon in Arizona that was crashed into the pentagon guided by a WRC type UAV ground based guidance system. All my investigative material has been copied and sent into the Pentagon DOD for an investigation that never happened. They saw a plane, it just wasn't flight 77. The UAV parts are depicted in the pictures in the link I left.

I'm not here to convince anyone, I'm reporting this info to awake people. I can answer a shit ton of other questions, I just really don't feel like doing it tonight.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 04:09 | 2152798 The Heart
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A+

Awesome work.

Where's the plane boss?

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 14:36 | 2154006 Money 4 Nothing
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Rabbit hole: N644AA stats for 2001/9/11.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/AA77DepartureStatistics.jpg

If you know how to read this chart link posted above, you will see that flight 77 was cancelled before the emergency of 9/11 even started. Any flight after 08:45 that morning had to be cancelled due to a "no fly" order over the whole United States that morning. In a nutshell, this flight never existed according to their tower logs. 

Why was the Bin Laden family expidited out of the United States that morning under a Presidential "no fly"? Search: President Bush made a statement that he feared that their safety may be in danger. O.T. The Bin Laden family lived in the shadow of the then CIA Headquarters in Fall's Church VA, damn near on the same property. Search....

I really can't do this today, it's just too much to go through again. What official FAA documentation and information I own flies in the face of the "official" story. The documentaion from FAA are readily available online right from their web site. 

Good educational official brief: Stand Down orders of 9/11.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/OrderRegardingAA77HittingPentagonOn911.pdf

You can see that the information for AA77 is "0000" across

the board and 'no' tail number was taken down and recorded in any Dulles International Airport Log Book, because American Airlines never assigned 'any' AA Jetliner to this 'canceled' route.

If we go backwards in time to 9/10 and 9/9 and 9/8 through the entire month of September 2001, then you will see that American Airlines never used the N644AA Jetliner on this AA77 Dulles/LAX Route.

It's a secret wraped in an enigma. Not everything is as it seems.

More of my contributed research papers can be found here:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc1.html

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:30 | 2151760 LasVegasDave
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Wow!  I'll bet it was the CIA who tipped off your Mom that you were jerking off in the garage.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 04:32 | 2152814 prains
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I was told it was your garage

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 22:21 | 2152300 sun tzu
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Only idiots like you still believe Al-CIA-Duh is the enemy. Yeah and Osama is sleeping with the fishes. 

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 19:38 | 2151807 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Yea the US was behind 9/11, they just forgot to  plant the WMDS in Iraq.

They planed for decades but forgot the key part.

Keep up the good work George.

 

 

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:55 | 2152788 caerus
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not about weapons...petrodollars

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 14:15 | 2154301 Xkwisetly Paneful
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YEa it is about petro dollars!

Total global commerce in USD dollars has plummeted from 75% to 65% in the last 40yrs, this while a farce super Euro currency was introduced.

It is just such a damn shame when the obvious reality doesn't align with the ludicrous delusion.

Petro dollars are the greatest thing to ever happen to the caveman. Without them he would be getting 4 pebble sandwiches a barrel or maybe 1/25th what he is currently receiving.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 21:01 | 2155988 Money 4 Nothing
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Expand The truth about our imminate "problem" with Iran is this, They Chair OPEC now and run their own oil bourse (Island of Kish) and do not accept the USD for oil trade. Iran just cut a huge energy contract with China and India too excluding the Petro Dollar recently. Customers have to enter their Bourse with a basket of currencies besides the USD. Search these inconvienient truths for your own good, I will leave a search term on the bottom to help get everyone started. MSM will keep sabre ratteling about Iran want's the bomb. Well, the WMD they posses is they run OPEC now, it's simply their turn, nothing more or less, we knew this was comming for years, each Nation takes turns Chairing it. The last time an OPEC contributing Nation refused the USD aka Petro Dollar, we had Sadam Husain killed within 3 weeks. Iran is a nuclear state and they are not considered a "super power" North Korea has nukes along with Israel but nobody complains about their nuclear programs, why? Because they don't control OPEC. Cut and paste into your search engine: "1st oil shipment sold on Iran oil bourse", now you know the truth. It's to preserve the Petro Dollar aka World Reserve Currency. Israel will more than likely strike Iran first with conventional then welcome to WWIII. I did the job that your psyops MSM will not touch with a 10 foot pole. Your welcome.
God Bless America. Things are going to change fast in the Ides of March.
Mon, 02/13/2012 - 03:37 | 2152775 Joseph Jones
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The USA did not plant WMD in Iraq because there was no need to.  Nothing negative resulted from that omission, nothing. 

Bush insured a 2nd term with his ridiculous recording of Bin Laden telling Americans to vote for Kerry if they knew what was good for them.

Besides, it does not matter who is president.  Every one of them work for the banksters.  Every one. 

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 13:48 | 2154110 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Other than Bush abdicating power to some manchurian candidate sharp point.

Small pototoes or virtually nothing to plant WMDS compared to pulling off 9/11 but I understand any and everything to promote the grand delusion.

besides it doesn't matter who is president the hostage release day was all a massive coincidence as well.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 11:37 | 2153538 TeresaE
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Not EVERYone. RP for POTUS

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:45 | 2152042 Bansters-in-my-...
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Fuck Off panefull.

you sack of shit.

Fucking stoolie.

Mon, 02/13/2012 - 04:10 | 2152799 OldTrooper
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Well, that settles it...you must be right.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 20:58 | 2152109 john39
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special variety of troll that one...  poison pill.  dumb as a post... but poisons the forum.

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 21:16 | 2152159 Xkwisetly Paneful
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Whoa, Achmed! Just a several days ago diversity of opinion was all the rage.

the product of an oppressive regime,will be extremely lacking in creativity and imagination.

Obviously lacking such things, Achmed23 now calls it poison, whining to only he knows what for some antidote,

simple=stop posting incredibly ludicrous misinformation and there would be no poison.

*and I would adore if just one of you misinfomationbots could post a link to how to get paid to post.

Lacking imagination and creativity that allegation has popped up numerous times now-so please who does one contact to get paid to post here?

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 22:22 | 2152304 sun tzu
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Get them thar terrorists. Stick ur hands down my pants yeah. Let's blow up some Pakistani children. That'll teach 'em

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