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Why Are We Fighting On the Same Side with Al Qaeda?
Reuters notes that the leader of Al Qaeda - Ayman al-Zawahri - is backing the Syrian rebels, and asking his followers to fight the Syrian government.
Some of the main Al Qaeda fighters who overthrew Gadaffi - and now appear to be in control of Libya - are already helping the Syrian rebels.
This is curious, given that the U.S. is considering military options for ousting the Syrian government, American allies Britain and Qatar allegedly already have foreign troops inside Syria, and the U.S. has been planning regime change in Syria for over 50 years.
Mainstream reports also state that the U.S. and its allies are backing Iranian terrorists.
I thought Al Qaeda was America's mortal enemy. Why are we backing terrorists?
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Dictating venue it is in a book called Art of War, ever heard of it?
But point taken, if a guy is gassing a quarter million of his own people he doesn't need anyone else's help.
"If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself."
Ever read it?
Thanks for saying what you just did.
Oil and Israel. Oil and Israel. Oil and Israel. Repeat it as often as you need to.
We don't give a fuck about Arabs or terrorism or anything else.
Ton of oil in Afghanistan but thanks for playing.
Such a shame when the real world doesn't quite align with the paranoid delusional world.
Asalam Alekem Brother.
As far as Afghanistan, do you not know that the US and oil co's were trying to "do a deal" for a pipeline across Afhanistan right up until we invaded? The Afghanis ended up not liking the deal and weren't bowing low enough to the banster-oil kingpins.
Of course, that is only one factor. The goal for over 20 years is to pin down Iran. They have accomplished that...now it is "all systems go"....
By the way....ZH'ers know from whence you come....it is so obvious.
We're there for freedom. We'll make them some McDonalds freedom fries and the Afghans will wave American flags.
you missed the israel part. duh.
Ton of Israel in Afghsnistan, tons of oil and Israel in Kosovo, Vietnam and Korea too.
At least that is what I heard on the internets.
The evil zionistas were behind the USS Kohl the embassy attack in Kenya, the little thing at the olympics, the little hostage thing in iran and another half dozen attacks via proxy against US interests the last 30yrs too-
I heard it on the internets.
It's pipeline routes, remember that idiocy.
OBL, in his 1996 Declaration of War (it's on the net) lists in plain English even someone brain dead like yourself might understand: Islam wants the USA out of ME holy land (I don't believe in any thing "Holy" in the physical world, but that's what they believe and most religions believe in holy things).
Just they way you'd want Mexico or some other foreign invader out of America if they were planted here.
As Michael Scheuer clearly explains, Islam does not hate the USA as proven by professional polls taken here. Islam does not hate democracy and is pretty much in love with trading things (when it's not done by force). They like capitalism pretty well overall.
Islam wants the USA to stop protecting the Al Saud family of Saudi Arabia, who own and run the most evil dictatorship (yes, it's not Camelot, sorry to burst your stupid bubble) on earth, where the Al Saud family flush solid gold toilets while the average Muslim eats dirt.
Islam wants the USA to stop protecting Israel, who has no "right to exist" (no such right exists anywhere). Only two ME nations publicly agree with Israel's (phony) right to exist, and they do this only because we bribe them to, and Islam wants that to end too.
BTW, the Israel-firster schill on Fox News Fred Barnes told me on the phone, when I asked who gives Israel the right to exist...Fred laughed at me and said, "God".
No the U.S. foreign policy is the reason for those incidents (USS COLE, Kenya Embassy, Iran Hostage crisis). USS COLE was a direct result of our interference in that region. Yemen officials didn't cooperate with the U.S. authorities and the FBI agents were regularly threatened. Their helicopter was targeted by a missile so its an obvious assumption that we weren't welcome in Yemen. Why would the military dock vessels in a known terrorist harbouring country that is hostile to the U.S..
Kenyan bombings - The bombings are widely believed to have been revenge for American involvement in the extradition, and alleged torture, of four members of Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) who had been arrested in Albania in the two months prior to the explosions.
Iranian hostage crisis - A direct result of decades of abuse by the U.S. backed Shah of Iran who replaced Mosaddeq. He nationalized the Iranian Oil companies which didn't set well with U.S. and Britian, so he was replaced in a U.S. backed coup.
There is a history behind each of the incidents you mention. Look at the cause not the end result.
Of course everytime! and the rape victim had it coming too.
Just misunderstood never responsible radical islam has only been waging a low level war against the US for decades.
We're spreading freedom throughout the world. Look at all the freedom in Libya now. Let freedom ring.
Now back to your regular government brainwashing
...digital TV.
Why are we running guns anywhere in the Middle East?
(One of the many questions which would be asked if there were a Washington Press Corp)
Why did the state department allow the underwear bomber to go around airport security in Amsterdam when he had no passport and was on the terror watch list? The video of the state department agent who went to the counter and personally escorted the underwear bomber onto the plane was widely available and now the lamestream media no longer shows or talks about it.
Two words? Patrick Kennedy. PTFE cannot be exploded with a match, it requires a blasting cap, Fed's didn't let him know that.
it seems reading between the lines has MSM scrambling reason? the thought police have already started the road to cannibalization,... apparently no one knows who the mark is, except for the guy boiling in a potluck kettle for dinner. even the shadow finds no solitary in broad daylight, whence we've become? tread stealthily and softly, for all seem targets of treason in what the wise few deem, the reincarnation of 1984 brought to bear!
First thing we need to do in the NWO is go all Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 on you people so we don't have to hear anything more from Orwell, Rand et al.
Stab yourself in the ears and eyes and you can remain dumb, deaf, and blind
WE ARE AT WAR WITH OCEANIA
"Almost all of the information about the world beyond London is given to the reader through government or Party sources, which by the very premise of the novel are unreliable. Specifically, in one episode Julia brings up the idea that the war is fictional and that the rocket bombs falling from time to time on London are fired by the government of Oceania itself, in order to maintain the war atmosphere among the population (better known as a false flag operation). The protagonists have no means of proving or disproving this theory. However, during preparations for Hate Week, rocket bombs fell at an increasing rate, hitting places such as playgrounds and crowded theatres, causing mass casualties and increased hysteria and hatred for the party's enemies. War is also a convenient pretext for maintaining a huge military–industrial complex in which the state is committed to developing and acquiring large and expensive weapons systems which almost immediately become obsolete and require replacement."
We live a life contained in a variety of mid 20th century dystopian novels.
and it's not only stranger than fiction its more evil
To: MSM
Subject: Whitney Houston
Please be advised to crank up the volume way past 110% full military power, options none with respect to the drug induced "suicide" of the heretofore sank into tabloid hell oblivion Whitney Houston in order to drown out the real news of public revolt bordering on civil war in Greece, open hostile civil war in Syria with Al Queda forces openly backed by our Benefactors in the City of London (similar to the Libyan Arab Spring) and impending overt military action engaging Iran in the essential third world war.
The subjects must be entertained, distracted from the ills and disasters accompanying the new world conquest.
No exceptions have been granted whatsoever.
Malefactors will be treated with inordinate hostility.
By: I. L. Uminatti
Vatican City
Seriously George, you wondered off base on this one. I'll tell you why you're on the same side.
Syria is using HEAVY ARMS on civilians, and they happen to be the right flavour of Islam for the Taliban to be interested.
And as we all KNOW, only the US, Israel, and sometime Russia are permited to use this equipment on civilians. For everyone else, it's a crime against humanity.
Dial 911 for the World Police. Insert your item of strategic significance into the coil slot provided, and wait until you hear the whistle of cruise missiles...
As usual the MSM narrative on Syria is wildly different from the reality on the ground...read Pepe Escobar for some real truth-telling:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/middle_east/nb09ak02.html
Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, huh?
the "terrorists" in Syria, like Libya, are NATO/Isreal backed... :
http://rt.com/politics/syria-russia-libya-duma-statement-975/
War by proxy is hardly new... what's your point?
Taliban are in Syria. They would have been flooding in over the border, especially now that their leader has made it an official front. The US and iraquis have probably been waving them on merrily, better there disrupting syria, then messing with plans for removing US troops.
Whats that? Awfully convenient timing... Syria becoming destabilised and drawing Taliban forces out of Iraq at a time when the US needs Iraq to at least look like it might be able to stand on it's own 2 legs.. coincidence I am sure.
The US is preaching, the taliban are preaching, and civilians are dying, while powerful people play powerful games. The same old story, and George wonders why they're on the same side.
Hey ThunderDownUnder....
Get off your knees boy.....
You been Hood-Winked....
Loser.
Wow.. I'm back in my box and now I feel like a loser.
Thanks for setting me straight.
lolz... grow an opinion and grow a pare..
pretty obvious from your post that you are lost in MSM lala land. back to your original post, "syria" is not using heavy arms on civilians... Syria is fighting a group of foreign backed (NATO/Israel) insurgents... these same insurgents are carrying out terrorist bombings to spread fear and chaos. More outside intervention is the goal... This is imoral, illegal and will lead to world war three... the blood is on NATO/Isreal's hands.
btw, not sure what "news" source you read, but the "taliban" are in Afghanistan, not Iraq. good grief.
What..? Are you serious...? You don't beleive Taliban are all over iraq, and now Syria? Seriously? .... Seriously?
I don't know where to begin with that level of ignorance. Wooo "secret squirrels" doin secret things.. that's believable is it?
Well... regardless of your stupidity, it is not OK to shell a suburb. It is NEVER OK to shell a suburb that has civilians living in it.
My slow learning american friends, the horror of this method of 'warfare' was outlawed 70 years ago for good reason.
You learned in Vietnam that shelling the populous is a bad idea, and you learned again in Iraq and Afganistan.. but you never really learned. Probably because the commanders of those forces will never be dragged up in front of the Hague, so it's all ok.
It's not OK. It doesn't matter who fires the shell. Its not ok.
Well dog gone it, I'm glad as heck we didn't fry 50K civilians in Dresden now!
I'm also glad no civlians died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki!
I think you mean Al qaeda not the Taliban.
Noted :)
I'll refer to them as disaffected youth, orphaned and uneducated masses, manipulated by wacky religious extremists in future...
Young people with guns touring the country side, shooting sh*t that their parental figures tell them its right to shoot.
Sounds a bit like other armed forces...
you do demonstrate an expertise in disaffection, extremism and poor education
no, i don't believe that "taliban" are all over iraq. in fact, i find it proposterous and wonder how anyone could believe that crap. more likely that Newt Gingrich's fookin moon base being built than that being true. Syria is very simple, NATO/Israeli mercenaries are killing civilians and police. The Assad regime is justifiably trying to stop them. its not complicated.
"The Assad regime is justifiably trying to stop them"
By shelling the suburbs.
It's ok as long as it's not your suburbs...?
That makes it justifiable? If it was NY, and Obama just wanted to stop those pesky foreign religious extremists, who happened to be holed up in a major city, it would be ok to use artillery then?
You'd let yor family take one for the team, and be ok with it, because it's the extremists that are the bad guys...hmm..
sorry, I don't watch CNN or fox, so i didn't the propaganda, er news story about civilians in burbs getting shelled by Assads soldiers. No doubt CNN has already been posting stories about Assad eats children and kills women for fun. /s
Fuck You Thunder....
Run along now,I think I hear your mom calling.
*mum
Thunder, isn't it time for you for your class taught by Sarah Palin?
Check your total scorecard, fella. It reminds of the shelling the 9ers did to the Broncos in the 1988 Super Bowl. 55-10 IIRC.
oh that's right it's evil to shell suburbs, it's liberating to drone them
Assad has killed at least 5000people.
and the Assad radical muzzie regime will topple like the others.
Asalam Alekem Brothers.
Because your TV told you that. I can write a brief of what is really going on over in that region later today. Illusion come back to the forefront.. 99% of us American's. if you asked them point blank, probably have no clue why their fighting. Possibly. ZH could be the 1%? I hope. Nation Building is a bitch, but someone has to do it.
Syrian government is secular. Not real bright are you?
Guess when they cease funding and arming the radical islamic muzzie that may be remotely true.
or maybe they will start arming the southern baptists next week to show how secular they happen to be.
Yeah and Saddam was responsible for the 9-11 attacks. We're there to spread freedom by installing Al Qaeda all over the Middle East