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Would You Support an Iran War If …
Would you support a war against Iran if you knew that:
- Iran has one of the largest Jewish populations in the world, and the second-largest in the Middle East behind Israel
- Jews are protected by the Iranian constitution, and are guaranteed seats in the Iranian parliament
- The CIA admits that the U.S. overthrew the moderate, suit-and-tie-wearing, Democratically-elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. He was overthrown because he had nationalized Iran's oil, which had previously been controlled by BP and other Western oil companies. As part of that action, the CIA admits that it hired Iranians to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its prime minister
- If the U.S. hadn't overthrown the moderate Iranian government, the fundamentalist Mullahs would have never taken over. (Moreover, the U.S. has had a large hand in strengthening radical Islam in the Middle East by supporting radicals to fight the Soviets and others)
- The U.S. armed and supported Iraq after it invaded Iran and engaged in a long, bloody war which included the use of chemical weapons. Here is former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld meeting with Saddam Hussein in the 1980's, several months after Saddam had used chemical weapons in a massacre:
- The U.S. has been claiming for more than 30 years that Iran was on the verge of nuclear capability
- The U.S. helped fund Iran's nuclear program
- The U.S. has been actively planning regime change in Iran - and throughout the oil-rich Middle East and North Africa - for 20 years
- The decision to threaten to bomb Iran was made before 9/11
- America and Israel both support a group designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization which is trying to overthrow the Iranian government
- Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials say that Iran has not decided to build a nuclear bomb
- Top American and Israeli military and intelligence officials say that - even if Iran did build a nuclear bomb - it would not be that dangerous, because Israel and America have so many more nukes. And see this
- American military and intelligence chiefs say that attacking Iran would only speed up its development of nuclear weapons, empower its hardliners, and undermine the chance for democratic reform
- The people pushing for war against Iran are the same people who pushed for war against Iraq, and said it would be a "cakewalk". See this and this
- Well-known economist Nouriel Roubini says that attacking Iran would lead to global recession. The IMF says that Iran cutting off oil supplies could raise crude prices 30%. War with Iran would kill the American economy. And see this and this
- China and Russia have warned that attacking Iran could lead to World War III
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not so you'd notice.
Yo, yo, don't forget all those battle groups of nuclear aircraft carriers and missile frigates sitting smack right off our shores, dude!
I mean, who enjoys looking at that plus all those drones and manned aircraft invading our airspace everyday?
The 10 Most Excellent Reasons to Attack Iran
+100
those are good reasons too. I thought of another one:
7. We have almost completed the military encirclement of Russia and China. Just a couple of countries too go and the job will be done. It would be foolish to stop when we are so close to completing the job.
Here's another one: It Will Speed Up the Second Coming of Jesus Christ
Think of all the fantastic schwarma recipes that will flood the Internet from a free Iran, we need schwarma
That's not good. If Jesus come tomorrow, I'm not sure I'm going to heaven. I need more time to get my affairs in order. But then again, when I look at the millions of bloodthirsty warmongering morons anxious to kill and main more Muslim women and babies - I think there's a very long list of bad people that Jesus will be busy processing to hell before he ever gets to me. By comparison , i may look good. I may very well slip by.
Ben Bernanke is Jesus Christ
Jesus had a better beard. And a full head of hair. Apparently acting as the head of the Fed is more stressful than being the savior of mankind.
That may be true -but Jesus looked pretty stressed our after a couple hours of hanging on the cross. But probably a lot better than Ben will look after the SHTF and the angry mobs catch up with Uncle ben.
wait, how do any of you guys know what jesus looked like? i want a youtube reference at least.
America is the greatest hypocrite in the universe.
Are you quoting Sura 5:51 here? ;-)
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Oh goody, a junk.
“O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them"
Very peaceful, I can almost smell the jasmine & honeysuckle now.
I've searched in vain for a comparable passage in buddhist, christian, taoist etc. texts and can't seem to come up with one.
Little help please ;-)
You've got to be kidding! How about a lot of help:
MP3 audio book of The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today - by Elizabeth Dilling
http://iamthewitness.com/audiobooks/09)%20Elizabeth%20Dilling%20-%20The%20Jewish%20Religion.%20It%27s%20Influence%20Today.zip
PDF book:
http://antimatrix.org/Convert/Books/Talmud/dilling/jriit.pdf
I'm not joooish.
Does Elizabeth speak of anything except a general diatribe against one religion/race?
I suppose you'll never know if you won't listen to or read it. I'm not here to spoon feed you. You were making a general diatribe against one religion, and asked for some help, so I was being a good Samaritan (metaphorically ... I'm not a joo either) and provided it.
I think I already have a good idea what to expect and I can dig up thousands of pages of agenda driven if I desired.
The christian crusades began 400 years after Muhammads death. He had no reason to despise them or fear them. However, strangely, the jooos & christians are specifically mentioned as his adversaries in a text compiled by him (Muhammad).
I suggest you spend some time reading up on him and what he began. He was quite the bloodthirsty SOB born of pagans.
And with both know the principle of Al Takeyya in Islam, where it's perfectly acceptable for a "believer" to lie to an "infidel", so how would an outsider even begin to have a conversation such people?
But as you say, I'm not here to spoon feed anyone ;-)
Ok, but nevertheless that Link provides a great deal of detail on the Jewish religion and its flavor and core impetus.
It seems to me (I've noticed) you have a particular desire to not wish to acknowledge such, and play devil's advocate in such discussion to generate some 'balance'.
That just seems to be your gig, I have no problem with that, you seem a genuine person, but in the name of such 'balance', listen to those .mp3 files, and get better balanced yourself (although I know you are not ignorant of it all).
I'm well aware of the Islamic side of this, I know what they are, how some of them behave, and I have seen the 'Christian' side, up close.
Plus I live beside the largest Islamic population on Earth, and they are for the most part good neighbours, respectful and friendly.
I doubt Israel's neighbours would say the same.
And that is the acid test, my friend.
seems to say "don't trust the christians and jews"... based on recent history, seems like pretty sound advice for a muslim.
They've always hated the jooos. And obviously since it's very inception they feel the same way about christians.
Now, I asked about any other "religion" sharing the same vibe about any other.
Come up with anything yet?
I'm going out on a limb and say no, you haven't.
So you say. But why did Jews and Muslims get on OK in Palestine before the Zionist European invasion in the last century? As far as war like religious, perhaps you should read the old testament or the Talmud. Then of course those nasty little episodes known as the Crusades. Or, how about a couple thousand years of Christian on Christian warefare? Or maybe the destruction and genocide of native populations in north and south America by erstwhile Christians?
Shhh don't talk about the 60+ million aboriginals killed in North and South America... we don't like that fact to be known.
And who was the first to use nuclear weapons against civilian population?
first, and, so far, only -- why i believe it was that product of old tom pendergast http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Pendergast, fightin' harry truman. wait, wasn't he the one who made the establishment of israel happen, against the advice of his own secretary of state, nobel peace prize winning general george marshall? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Marshall.
seems general marshall thought it would produce endless cycles of war in the mideast. hmmm.
on the bright side truman did help desegregate the u.s. armed forces.
God supposedly told the Jews to kill every living thing in "the promised land" and take it for their own. Later God supposedly told Romans, Byzantines, Franks, Spaniards, Englishmen and Americans to do the same thing in their own spheres. God supposedly continues to tell many American politicians the same thing today. So why's it such a big deal if supposedly he told Muslims the same thing?
What's that quote about the speck in your neighbor's eye and the beam in your own eye?
"So why's it such a big deal if supposedly he told Muslims the same thing?"
Well obviously it would be a big deal and have potential personal impact if one were a Jew or Christian, wouldn't it? It specifically calls them out does it not?
Am I advocating for an invasion of Iran? Of course not.
Just because atheists sit around sage-like,scratching their beards, convinced that they alone have figured out the mysteries of the universe and have formed their own belief systems around that conviction...does not mean that texts cannot be expanded on to include them.
In fact, with the jizya, it does.
Yup, the original ethnic cleansers ... then blamed it all on God! ... and it would have been all wrong not to follow God's Word.
But it's ok anyway as the original inhabitants were given over to every form of urban wickedness and american idol worship ... very sick shit! ... so they didn't deserve to live anyway.
God knows best. ;-)
Let these text book ploys sink in:
Solutions to the above? None (The combined IQ of humanity is constant. Unfortunately however, the population is growing.)
Periodic revolutions slows them down a bit. We do need one now.
well put.
Oui
Haven't we always been at war with Eastasia?
Your half truths, material omissions and disinformation cheapen the value of this site immeasurably.
kinda ironic you go by the name "George Washington"
"George",
Regarding your statement about the Jewish population of Iran...
Your Wikipedia link shows a Jewish population in Iran of only 10,400 people; which is only 0.1% of the world's Jewish population and only 0.2% of Iran's population.
Nevertheless, I still support your effort to educate us. You do, at least, provide us with links to the information behind your conclusions.
Meanwhile,
For anyone researching the 1953 coup, it's name has sometimes been referred to as "Operation Ajax". It was done more or less at the request of the "Anglo-Iranian" (aka "Anglo-Persian") oil company - which has now become... <drum roll, please> ... BP (British Petroleum).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax
How about a round of applause for "the little-people"!
I knew those godammed Brits were behind this! Those MFers are evil.
more truth is always welcome Dave.
please, enlighten us.
http://www.bosnewslife.com/20550-breaking-news-iran-pastor-nadarkhani-facing-execution-firm-in-christ
nothing but a bunch of reasonable folks over there
Yeah Dave, that article makes all kinds of sense.. We know there are Jews and Christians living in Iran but yet we are to believe that this guy is being executed because he is a Christian and will not recognize Muhammad.. What a crock of shit.. Onward Christian Soldier.. You're a fucking moron..
Duh, he's a pastor.....a fucking moron by definition. More slaughtering in the name of religion than"...............oh, never mind, we have all heard it and those with closed minds never get it anyway.
Gee Dave, when I was a young man living in Florida our State had capital punishment for rape. Hard to know what the truth is in any sovereign nation on such a provincial matter.
Iran state media put out a stunning report Saturday claiming that imprisoned Christian pastor Youcef Nadarkhani is facing the death sentence for rape and extortion, not for apostasy and refusing to renounce his religion, as his lawyer, human rights groups and Western news media have reported.
"His crime is not, as some claim, converting others to Christianity," the deputy governor of the Gilan province, Gholomali Rezvani, told Fars, the semi-official state news agency.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/01/state-media-reports-iranian-pastor-facing-execution-for-rape-not-religion/#ixzz1n9kYF169Yeah, but we now admit we were evil. We have all but banned even mentioning the evil slave holder George Washington's name. Both of my 10 and 16 year old kids confirmed to me that George Washington's birthday was not even mentioned in school today. I walked in on my 10 year old daughter while she was watching a TV program about Charles manson (Famous Hollywood Murders program") and my son 16 year old was busy reading Ellie (The Weasel") Weisel's "Night" getting ready for a quiz tommorrow in his Holocaust studies class.
Funny, but I always thought George Washington was a great man -The Father of our Country. damn, was I stupid when I was a kid.
you mean the zionist media might be lying again!?! gasp and imagine my utter shock and horror.
The islamist media is a paragon of truth.
anything their tyranical government spews out is gospel.
I got a play by play on the last gay torture/murder via the Iranian Press Corp site.
The United States government has killed millions more innocent people than the Iranians ever have.
So sorry, islam has killed more islam than the judeo christians ever could.
But it sure is fun as hell pretending otherwise.
The US started wars against Mexico, Spain, Imperial Germany and Vietnam based on what are know known to be lies. Millions were killed because of these lies. Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in these wars as well.
And Israel is responsible for the deaths of more Westerners than Iran.
Ok so islam has killed more islam than the white man.
The communists killed more people than the rest put together.
But the US government lies.
No doubt, the totalitarian regimes the world over are truth speakers.
Would be why the Swedish government is considering a name change to swedenistan.
No one ever "killed more islam." You might have better success in your intellectual life if you learned the proper terminology for the debates in which you engage yourself.
Once you learn proper English perhaps you'll crack a book and learn something worthwhile. But to make a sincere effort it would be best if you'd turn off Glee and Dancing with the Stars first.
I am sorry imbecile says what?
There is nothing gramatically wrong with killed more Islam.
The US did not invent war and the other people have killed a lot more folks.
Nothing like correcting imaginary grammar errors.
and Israel is not responsible for more western world deaths than Iran, not even close.
Iran was arming half the civil war in Iraq.
surrender noted 12yo bitch.