Head Of Iran's Revolutionary Guards: "A War With Israel Will Occur"

Tyler Durden's picture

Even as the popular ADHD affliction is preoccupied with who paid what taxes, and whether this poll shows that guy on top or this one, until tomorrow when they flip providing even more meaningless chitchat opportunities, everyone appears to have once again lost sight of the big picture, which is that two US ships continue full steam ahead toward Iran, namely the CVN-74 Stennis aircraft carrier which has crossed the Pacific ocean and is now a week away from its target, and the LHA 5 Peleliu big deck amphibious warfare ship, where they will join two other aircraft carriers and the LHD 7 Iwo Jima as summarized by the graphic below. Why is US naval presence in the Gulf soaring to a concentration not seen since the last Gulf war? The head of the Iran revolutionary guard may have an idea. From Reuters: Israel will eventually go beyond threats and will attack Iran, the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards was quoted as saying on Saturday.

As speculation mounts that Israel could launch air strikes on Iran before U.S. elections in November, Mohammad Ali Jafari told a news conference that the Jewish state would be destroyed if it took such a step. "Their threats only prove that their enmity with Islam and the revolution is serious, and eventually this enmity will lead to physical conflict," Jafari said when asked about Israeli threats to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) reported.


"We are making all efforts to increase our defensive capabilities so that if there is an attack ... we could defend ourselves and other countries that need our help with high defensive capabilities."

And just to be clear:

"A war will occur, but it's not clear where or when it will be," Jafari was quoted as saying on Saturday. "Israel seeks war with us, but it's not clear when the war will occur."

"Right now they see war as the only method of confrontation," he said.

And when a war does break out, the only question is what China, Russia and India will do. Iran's stance is clear:  "If they (Israel) start something, they will be destroyed and it will be the end of the story for them," Jafari said, according to ISNA.

One thing is guarranteed: in one-two weeks US naval presence in the 5th Fleet will be unprecedented, consisting of at least 3 US aircraft carriers, and 2 amphibious warfare groups, excluding any other naval support the rest of the developed world will throw in.

In other words, if for some reason the US needs a big diversion in the days just before the election, it is sure to get it.

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blindman's picture

Jesse Ventura Embarasses Piers Morgan in Front of CNN Audience
Posted on September 21, 2012
This is pretty epic.


Monedas's picture

They are the same Socialist shit .... except Ventura gets the 2nd amendment right and agrees with Ron Paul about stupid nation building !

Precious's picture

The "war" started long ago with the planting of the Stuxnet virus.

blindman's picture

Friday September 21 9:00am
1 hour
Guns and Butter
bonnie faulkner interviews catherin austn fitts.
unpacking mr. global. pt 3.
Unpacking Mr. Global, Part Two — Catherine Austin Fitts on Guns & Butter
stuff you gotta watch.

Fukushima Sam's picture

Gee, with nuclear-armed neighbors like Israel around I wonder why Iran wants their own nukes?

Votewithabullet's picture

...another mystery is why would a cuntry w/out newclear weapons openly taunt and call for the total defuckingstruction of a neighboring country that has them? Fucking ...dumb dumb dumb dummmmmmb dumb, trust me I dont want it , I will be very pissed if it happens butt fuck it they have oil and they OPENLY SAY CRAZY SHIT, real men dont buy land, they take it...

AldousHuxley's picture

war boosts popularity of incumbent politicians.


israel elites must be desparate.


I hope israel launches couple missiles, damage iran, then china and russia annilates israel, and us bombs iran.


then no more middle east conflict.


Let Israel and Iran go kill each other in name of religion......with arms purchased frrom US and russia.

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

An interesting idea, but too much could (would) go wrong.

Vote NO to war by buying gold!

markmotive's picture

Civilization needs war. We need a common enemy to keep us cohesive.

The Report from Iron Mountain - Why Civilization Depends on War:


BigJim's picture

 The Report from Iron Mountain - Why Civilization Depends on War

- brought to you by a bunch of guys whose above-average incomes entirely depend on... 'defense' spending. Hmmm.

Bicycle Repairman's picture

Israel has an election Oct. 22 and the polls are not going Netanyahu's way, I believe.  If Netanyahu loses, then a certain momentum will be lost permanently.  So, Oct. 22: is it a drop dead date?

Previous Israeli wars have been nice, neat, quick affairs.  Nukes or no, this one will not be.  And Israel cannot stand up to a protracted fight.  At some point (within a week?) the pressure on the US to bail out Israel will be unsurmountable.  Hopefully a "no decision" can be negotiated with China and Russia, and the conflict can be limited to the middle east.   Madam Clinton is going to get her 3 AM phone call.


CompassionateFascist's picture

Israel (read: Netanyahu) will attack Iran real soon because, via spike in oil/gas price, he hopes to get rid of Obama and bring in neo-con stooge Romney. Amerikwa (Obama) will support the Zionist aggression because Iran, like Libya and Iraq, needs to be shoved back onto the petrodollar. I'm somewhat surprised Netanyahu has waited this long to strike...now he's painted himself into a corner. And the paint ain't dryin'.  

TheGrandChessboard's picture

Lets assume you are right why didnt Israel bomb Iran back in 08 before the 2008 election so that john bomb bomb bomb iran mcain could win the election.

sushi's picture

New moon is on the 15th so around this date is the likely time.

That gives roughly a week before Netanyahu is voted out of office leaving the world in flames. A great political legacy.

There was a recent MIT analysis of Syrian IADS (air defenses). Basic conclusion was that Syrian IADS would be very difficult for NATO to overcome ie an attack on Syria would not be as easy as the attack on Libya and this is the primary reason NATO is not pounding the table for some form of NATO enforced no fly zone.

If Syria is a tough nut to crack then one has to ask what about Iran? Greater geographical depth, much more rugged terrain, greater distance from Israel and likely as well armed.

I think we are all about to get a 3 AM phone call.

dougngen's picture

I hate to disagree with you and I don't have any concrete facts. But they said the same thing about Saddam and his "modern weaponry" provided by the soviets. I'm pretty sure the guys at the skunk works have not been lazy over the last decade.

dougngen's picture

I hate to disagree with you and I don't have any concrete facts. But they said the same thing about Saddam and his "modern weaponry" provided by the soviets. I'm pretty sure the guys at the skunk works have not been lazy over the last decade.

JR's picture

If Israel makes a pre-emptive strike on Iran it means an extensive war in the Middle East, perhaps the beginning of a world war. It’s an incredible step, and it’s my opinion that a lot of U.S. politicians are trying to avoid this by taking unfair measures, such as crippling sanctions, against the Iranian people.

These measures are meant to show the U.S. as strong as it can be without war.

The U.S. has not determined with any certainty that Iran is building a nuclear weapon, of course; in fact, the Aug. 30 International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report, according to IPS, “reveals that Iran has actually reduced the amount of 20-percent enriched uranium available for any possible ‘breakout’ to weapons grade enrichment over the last three months rather than increasing it.”

So what we’re left with are damned-if-they-do-damned-if-they-don’t U.S. policies against Iran for developing peaceful nuclear power. Any other country would consider these sanctions as an act of war.

The truth is, of course, that this U.S. posturing by Obama and the Congress is meant to persuade a “pipsqueak nation with delusions of grandeur” not to make a military strike on Iran, even though Israel’s security and prosperity are entirely dependent on America’s generosity.

How can this be?

It turns out that America’s political system – the political parties, the Congress and the President – is highly susceptible to the pressure brought on behalf of Israel. First, there are the lobbyists, AIPAC and other pro-Israel groups, supplying politicians with big money and blackmailing those who don’t perform.

Then, there is a pro-Israel press, particularly in the Eastern Establishment, grinding out stories opposing Israel’s enemies.

And, more recently, the neoconservative movement has enlisted pro-Israel Christian groups to lobby and pound away against vulnerable politicians.

But most important of all is the fountainhead  from which flows the massive amount of cash for the military industrial complex,  foreign aid and the American Empire’s wars against the enemies of Israel--the Federal Reserve and the pro-Israel families who own the bank, and thus, control America’s currency and the power that goes with it..


Joseph Jones's picture

Fderal law requires any group in the USA financed by a foreign nation to report such activity to the US govt.  Israel purchased, via political payoffs and religious pressure, the privelige of ignoring the law. 

There are about five Israeli financed groups operating in the USA. 

Tedster's picture

I have a first edition copy of that book, a relative had a nice library that ended up with me for the time being. The first time I started to read it my thought was "this is a pantload.." Seriously. A quick google search, and found that the book is a fake.

The tell was, something to do with copyright. Look it up, you'll find the same. Just sayin'.

john39's picture

US senate passed a resolution last night that all but locks the U.S. into another war to benefit Israel....  this is beyond disgusting:


RichardP's picture

... a resolution ... that all but locks the U.S. into another war ...

Huh?? From your link:

The bill text ended with the statement: "Nothing in this resolution shall be construed as an authorization for the use of force or a declaration of war."

JR's picture

Aldous, no matter what people say, there is a right and wrong in the world. And to throw all the innocents into the pit of firebombs, torture and endless slaughter is perhaps mankind's most evil inclination. Surely, at this point, this can be resisted.

“[H]undreds of patriotic Iranian Jews…continue to live in their ancient motherland nation of Iran and add to its rich culture and civilization.” -- from Iranian Jews to Israel: Our National Identity Is Not for Sale

Here are the words of the Honorable Representative Morris Motamed, Jewish Member of Iranian Parliament (Majle), 2007 regarding an Israeli “offer of $10,000 per person” for Iranian Jews to repatriate to Israel, which Iranian Jews said “constitutes bribery and outmost disrespect” to their “honor and patriotism” which “is NOT for sale” :

“The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradable for any amount of money.

“Jewish Iranian identity is not a commodity that passes from the hands of one merchant to another in return for money.

“Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran’s Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews.”



john39's picture

somehow americans need to break free of the mind control that dictates that "good" or "civilized" people must support israel at all costs....  ignorance is no excuse when it comes to supporting murder and immoral wars.

akak's picture

I don't see a single Wal-Mart, Starbucks or Carls Jr. in any of those photos.

Obviously, the Iranians are pure barbarians.

Anusocracy's picture

Worse than that - the only apples are in the produce markets.

AldousHuxley's picture

Iranians have real assets like oil under ground

America have fiat in banks


American elites don't like Iranians become rich. must pull them down to american capitalism.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Nope, Apple products are popular over there, and US iphones get hacked for use on their networks.

knukles's picture

No Lloyd's pork baby back rib shoppes, Smithfield spiral ham outlets.... how can they survive?
Need Democracy Now!


where are my carriers?

prains's picture

I don't see a single Wal-Mart, Starbucks or Carls Jr. in any of those photos.


missing kentucky fried pork for some strange reason as well

bankruptcylawyer's picture

somehow you fools , many of whom are just disguised anti-semites but not all, need to focus on america's petro-dollar addiction, the american dependence on controlling saudi and emirati oil  for financial and military dominance by AMERICAN oil and weaponry oligarachs.


yes yes, it's all israel and aipacs fault that america is involved in the middle east. of course. the cold war, americas rise to power after wwii, and the american global imperial force with military bases all around the world and masssive petroleum requirments , plus the giant bubble of american national debt that relies upon a stable international demand for dollar rooted in the control of the middle eastern oil markets couldn't be an AMERICAN reason that AMERICAN CORPORATIONS go to war. blaming israel is scapegoat bullshit. it will not solve your problems. america would sacrifice israel if it neeed to do so in order for the american oligarchy to continue controlling the middle east. and they will conitinue to control it for their own benefit.


just because israel has a mutually beneficial relationship with israel doens't absolve you, as an american, from the mistake of ignoring the domestic AMERICAN causes of the american military's aggressive position taken principally to benefit the AMERICAN , OIL  GUNS AND BANKING interests.

 the refuge of the israel haters is then to blame the american jews for allegedly controlling all of america. yes of course, the jpmorgans, and rockefellers and waltons, and smith and wessons and boeings of the world they are all secret jews of course. even if they do go to church. everyone who is part of the problem is claimed to be a jew, and if not that, then they are a muslim or some 'other' group. scapegoating is the refuge of the person unwilling to identify the specific interests and specific families that own these interests and to confront the difficult of neutralizing their influence.


people seem so easily convinced of the distraction tactics of government propoganda that they overlook the oldest distraction tactic in the book. scapegoating minority groups. 



CompassionateFascist's picture

So bankruptcy lawyer is a Jew. Who Knew?

sushi's picture


just because israel has a mutually beneficial relationship with israel 

End Quote

I suspected this was true. Thanks for the confirmation.

Conchy Joe's picture

...but make that 25K and we're out of here!

Conchy Joe's picture

They could just catch the redeye from Tehran to Jerusalem and be there in no time. Just check "vacation" on the forms and it should all be good.

cjbosk's picture

190 per barrel oil doesn't do anything for the incumbent but toss him on his ass where he belongs. That's what happens when Israel starts lobbing bombs over there. Obozo wants nothing to do with an Iranian conflict, those are his "peeps" over there.

Israel will knock the snot out of Iran, and I don't think it will last but a few short weeks. Oil up, Obozo out, that simple. Netanyahu HATES Obama...and I totally understand why. Obozo is the greatest embarrassment to the nation and the world. Israel made it clear, they're not waiting, nor do they need to, for the U.S. to support this initiative.

Down with Iran! Once and for all.

Renewable Life's picture

Hey "bro", ever heard of the US statistic oil reserve???
Oil will hit 150 yes, then uncle sam takes control of shit from there!!

Next bullshit myth: Israel will mop up Iran.....those clowns couldn't ever dig out hezbollah in Lebanon, 5 years ago, you think they'll take on Iran and be done in 2 weeks????!!!!!!
Please, get real!!

But don't worry, we will give you all the glory, you can fly those antiquated fighter jets you have and make a lot of noise and puff yourselves up, and your uncle Sam will follow behind with stealth bunker busters and EMP attacks, followed by cruise missiles and our special forces!!

There all better, and bibi and you can go on thinking your big dicks again!!!

sullymandias's picture

Oh yeah, those statistic oil reserves, that'll show em bro.

Sparkey's picture

Perhaps you are a `Troll` cjbosk , I don't know much about these things, I will say; If you work for salt, you give your employeer bene for your wages, if you do it only for the love of the game and the righteousness your cause you are a master Dancer on the floor of literacy. I don't see the World through your lenses, still I've  read your stuff and marveled at your control of the work.

Divided States of America's picture

I agree, take out 2 birds with one stone. I could care less if the Middle East (especially Israel) was wiped off the face of the Earth. Makes for a much better life for everyone else if that happened.

azzhatter's picture

I can see a war starting 3 weeks before election and the obamabots telling us that now is not the time to change leadership, we all need to support the president. Rah Rah Rah. 

prains's picture

and you're not used to this by now, this is not the first or last time and required no specific party affiliation GO RED errr GO BLUE err GO RUE

blindman's picture

i doubt there has ever been one accurate
translation or contextual report to a western
audience of anything that was ever said in iran.
period. western media does not report that stuff,
they just misrepresent it to steal from the treasury.
it has been going on like this for at least half
a century with regards to one country or another,
you would think that a few people would have noticed
by now? of course when it comes to looting many
eyes go blind but as has been said..
" not every closed eye is sleeping." or something
like that?

Husk-Erzulie's picture

This Guy with the weird name is clearly unhinged, a monster I say, a monster.



Husk, for one misses Muamar.  The dude had a certain bizzaro style... the all hot ninja girls personal elite body guard... pitching a bedouin tent in the middle of an American city on a state visit... I always felt there was a bone dry sense of humor at work.  He didn't deserve to be lynched and sodomized by ignorant mercs and have Hillary Clinton chortling over his death.



In the name of God who loves human beings.


My dear brother:

I, you, we and all of us are pursuing truth and happiness for human beings, which is unfortunately a victim of world powers.

This is a historical opportunity to undermine all inhuman relations and put an end to prejudices, which have questioned the truths and separates them, to build a new beautiful world based on love, justice and beauty.

This is a historical and certainly achievable objective. It only needs our hands, minds and hearts to join each other.

I pray Great God to bless you, who love humanity and wish success for all. I hope to meet you in a better future.


M. Ahmadinejad

September 8, 2012

RichardP's picture

(signed) M. Ahmadinejad

Delivered with roses to his Sunni bretheren??  Oh wait, you mean this letter applies only if you believe the same as M?  Everyone else is an infidel and should be eliminated?  That kind of love has staying power.

Ar-Pharazôn's picture

no. delivered from a unicorn, coming from a rainbow, while skittles were raining

Calmyourself's picture

Russia annihilates Israel, yeah good luck with that..  Your forgetting to read a book...

cjbosk's picture

You say that as if Iran is a civilized nation? Surely you can't be that stupid...although Obama did become president so I suppose anything is possible.