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Iran Accuses German Siemens Of Sabotaging Its Nuclear Plant As Turkey Sends Heavy Weapons To Syria Border
It seems you can't turn your back on the Middle East for more than a few minutes without something going bump in the desert. Sure enough, a few shorts hours after we reported that the leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guards is certain war with Israel is coming, here comes Iran again with the stunning admission that none other than German industrial conglomerate, and occasional maker of nuclear power plants, Siemens was reponsible for "implanting tiny explosives inside equipment the Islamic Republic purchased for its disputed nuclear program. Prominent lawmaker Alaeddin Boroujerdi said Iranian security experts discovered the explosives and removed them before detonation, adding that authorities believe the booby-trapped equipment was sold to derail uranium enrichment efforts. "The equipment was supposed to explode after being put to work, in order to dismantle all our systems," he said. "But the wisdom of our experts thwarted the enemy conspiracy." Expert wisdom aside, what is stunning is not the ongoing attempts by everyone and the kitchen sink to terminally corrupt the Iranian nuclear power plant: after Stuxnet one would expect nothing less than every form of conventional and "new normal" espionage thrown into the pot to cripple the only peaceful argument Iran would have for demanding nuclear power, which by implication would mean that all ongoing nuclear pursuits are geared solely toward aggressive, military goals, of the type that demand immediate military retaliation by the democratic superpowers. No, what is stunning is the implicit admission that Germany's, and Europe's, largest electrical engineering company, has been not only quietly transacting with none other than world peace (as portrayed by the MSM) enemy #1, Iran, but instrumental in its nuclear program.
Obviously it took a Stuxnet second before Siemens denied everything and then some. Via Reuters:
Siemens denied the charge and said its nuclear division has had no business with Iran since the 1979 revolution that led to its current clerical state.
"Siemens rejects the allegations and stresses that we have no business ties to the Iranian nuclear program," spokesman for the Munich-based company Alexander Machowetz said.
Oh well, Iran must have bought all those Siemens nuclear centrifuges, concrete dome and steam plant in near perfect condition on eBay from anonymous sellers (who accept PayPal and even credit cardsas long as the purchase does not have an Indonesian shipping address).
Iran, however, isn't afraid of trowing Siemens into even deeper water, alleging not only breach of international embargos, but also masterful sabotaging of ones own product:
Boroujerdi, who heads the parliamentary security committee, alleged that the explosives were implanted at a Siemens factory and demanded the company take responsibility.
There is of course another possibility: that the shipping address of the mysterious and anonymous ebay seller was somewhere in Langley, VA:
Some Iranian officials have also suggested in the past that specific European companies may have sold faulty equipment to Iran with the knowledge of American intelligence agencies and their own governments, since the sales would have harmed, rather than helped, the country's nuclear program.
According to Iran, the alleged campaign has included the abduction of scientists, the sale of faulty equipment and the planting of a destructive computer worm known as Stuxnet, which briefly brought Iran's uranium enrichment activity to a halt in 2010.
Certifying that there is undoubtedly a Jason Bourne episode in the works over this entire incident is the following:
Abbasi also told the U.N. nuclear agency in Vienna that "terrorists and saboteurs" might have infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency, after the watchdog's inspectors arrived at the Fordo underground enrichment facility shortly after power lines were blown up through sabotage on Aug. 17.
Iran has repeatedly accused the IAEA of sending spies in the guise of inspectors to collect information about its nuclear activities, pointing to alleged leaks of information by inspectors to U.S. and other officials.
Five nuclear scientists and researchers have been killed in Iran since 2010. Tehran blames the deaths on Israel's Mossad spy agency as well as the CIA and Britain's MI-6. Washington and London have denied any roles. Israel has not commented.
Boroujerdi said the alleged leaks of nuclear information to its adversaries by the IAEA may finally push Tehran to end all cooperation with the agency.
"Iran has the right to cut its cooperation with the IAEA should such violations continue," he said.
If anyone follows the game theory in this one, and has any idea who has not defected, or where the Nash equilibrium is at this point, please speak up. The rest of us just want the popcorn.
And in far simpler plotlines, Reuters reports that Syria (which for those who have a 15 minutes attention span, was accused three months ago by everyone, and certainly Hillary Clinton, of offensively taking down a Turkish plane before it turned out to be a self-defensive move, at which point the entire false flag story promptly disappeared as it could no longer be pre-spun) is once again being provoked by NATO-member Turkey, which is now deploying heavy armored vehicles and weapons to the border with Syria. The spin this time around:
The deployment is reportedly in an area where earlier this week Turkish civilians were wounded when stray bullets and shelling crossed the border from the Syrian province of al-Raqqa.
CNN Turk television said artillery fire had landed close to the Turkish border overnight, causing panic among local residents.
The Turkish army moved three Howitzers and one anti-aircraft weapon to the border, the channel said.
Turkey, a member of NATO, has conducted a number of troop deployments in recent months along its 911-km (566-mile) border with Syria, where rebels are fighting to topple President Bashar al-Assad.
And on, and on, until the interminable foreplay finally ends, whenever one of the abovementioned democracies decides the quiet period is over, and the time for real GDP building (if only in a hard core Keynesian-cum-Krugman sense) once the ability to generate even one additional dollar in debt is no longer available, is upon us.
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might could be the dumb kraut bastards gave up on starting wars after going 0-for-2 in World Wars *they planned for for years and then started*, only to fuck 'em up right out of the gate. And then get humiliatingly publicly buttfucked - live on TV with the whole world watching and laughing at them - by their conquerors and new masters. Maybe they just got kinda *tired* of it....
WWI and WWII were just intra-family disputes, butt out vato puto .... we're on the same team when it comes to Islamofucks ! Well done Mossad, Stuxnet and Siemens and CIA and MI6 ! Iran will end up looking as stupid as Egypt did after the 6 day war ! You heard it here !
in your demented logic you just said something funny : intra-family disputes that take out 80 million people, more than any other wars in human history; and the bottom line is : Dad up thar, no big deal, its all in the family!
Who needs enemies with family like that.
Monedas go fry like a fly in hades.
The distance from Iran to berlin is 3,292 miles or 2 days 3 hours:
https://www.google.com/search?q=distance+from+berlin+to+iran&ie=utf-8&oe...
But I have a snakeing suspicion that an Iranian r*cket can make it there much faster then 2 days.
I'm sure glad we are separated by a couple of oceans from all these kooks.
Speaking of kooks, how far are you from Washington DC?
l'm gonna guess Reston. Just a guess though.
You'd think that with men in charge of all these countries, foreplay wouldn't last nearly this long...
It's amazing how bad the Iranian PR machine really is.
Why Iran does not just manifestly state that it will relinquish all nuclear ambitions when Israel joins the NPT and open its bomb/nuke program to the same international inspectors as Iran is beyond me.
Get that mental midget in the Member's Only jacket - Ahmadinejab off the stage.
Invite Oprah to Iran to interview Khamenei and front channel a cession of a regional nuke and ballistic missile arms race. In the meantime, you better dig more and deeper holes.
Hard to believe Iran is better behaved than North Korea, India, Pakistan and our greatest of trusted friends Israel, but it's too true.
Most of this problem revolves around Americans actually believing their so-called "news" is true wherein the rest of the world is not quite so delusional.
Considering the USS Liberty, the Saudi involvement in 9/11 and the abject failure of the Obama administration to perform the slightest enforcement of criminal and social justice in this global financial farce, even the most jaded passive pedestrian is on the glidepath to side with the Persian underdog against this seething irrational group of bullies.
If these guys can pull off a proxy war in Syria based on humanitarian issues - likely now that Angelia Jolie is trolling for the CFR again and bribe enough Egyptian Army generals to herd the Muslim Brotherhood back into prison, then maybe they can strike Iran and keep the Djinn in the bottle a few more years. Otherwise, you might just accidentally unite Sunni and Shia against Israel once and for all.
All that corporate German, Russian and Chinese tech flooding into Iran does not bode well now or ten years from now.
Isn't globalism wonderful?
You guys should have listened to Y and moved to Canada.
Instead Al poisoned him.
Feel safer now?
all the countries you mentioned already have nukes so the US takes a hands off approach.
OTTO, hit the basement. We have your url! An angry asshole you are!
Countries sign the NPT voluntarilly, becuase it confers various benefits such as access to technology.
The problem is that Iran signed the NPT, enjoys(ed?) its benefits, but fails to comply with the NPT obligations.
Israel hasn't signed the NPT. Therefore, it neither enjoys its benefits, nor has to comply with its obligations.
Oh, it's legal. What's legal? whatever you say it is.
Dream on.
"But fails to comply with the NPT obligations."
That is the opinion of Israel en the US/UK/FR. What a source.
How many nukes does Israel have? Or it doesn't matter because they didn't sign the NPT?
So if Iran retreats from that treaty there is no problem anymore in your view?
Nuclear power plants are neither cheap or clean. The power may be cheap in the beginning, but the long term storage problems are never addressed until the utility has taken its profits and run. The spent fuel is a hazard for thousands of years and just like our debt problems, is being left for future generations to take care of.
The only reason nuclear power plants exist is they are good places for governments to experiment with new types of nuclear for the purpose of future nuclear weapons.
The nuclear power plants are heavily subsidised by governments to this end.
There is no way that Iran wants nuclear for simple energy production, that is a total lie that is basic in any country that has nuclear power plants.
Japan has all but admitted that there are research facilities at the damaged nuclear plant at Fukushima that no camera will ever be allowed into.
Anybody who believes even for a moment that Iran is pusuing nuclear power strictly as a cheap power supply, is certifiable.
The Iranian government is pursuing it to gain knowledge in a destructive force that may eventually destroy all life on earth.
NO NUKES
one thing fuka-jima taught us is - where are the robot's? the radiation proof contruction workers in space suits? no. really . where?
i've seen the 35 m.p.h. trillion dollar bat-wings in the sky? show me the clean-up!.........
Unfortunately, the robots can also die (breakdown) from the effects of radiation.
They can "harden" the electronics to make them more resistant, but there are limits. (Space equipment need to be hardened as well. As the article suggests, hardened electronics are a couple generations older than stuff we would normally use.)
"Radiation Hardening 101: How To Protect Nuclear Reactor Electronics"
http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/semiconductors/design/radiationharden...
"How does radiation pose a problem for electronics?
Radiation can ionize atoms and disrupt a semiconductor's crystal structure. For electronics that are very close to a reactor, neutrons will create physical damage to the semiconductor crystal. But most chips will fail first because of leakage that’s associated with the charging of insulators. In something like a metal-oxide-semiconductor device, for example, gamma rays and X-ray radiation will knock electrons off atoms in an insulator to create electron-hole pairs. The resulting trapped positive charges will shift the operating characteristics. Devices are designed to turn on and off at a well-defined point of operation, and if that operating voltage shifts, this can create difficulties."
Iran wants to be a nuclear player ! They can be the world's nuclear waste dump ....after my Jews put them in their place ! The tankers leave with crude and return empty with a couple of pallets of nuclear waste lashed to their decks ! I love resourceful people !
Be careful what you wish for.
Your description of the effects of peaceful nuclear power is nonsense – which makes it difficult to take seriously your guess, and it is only a guess, about Iran’s intentions.
Iran is like a chiuaua barking furiously behind a chain link fence at a pit bull, It thinks if only I can get around this fence(nuclear) I will kill that pit bull.
But when it finally finds a way past the fence it will be torn to pieces.
Unfortunately for you, a current example of one important reason for possessing a nuclear weapon is North Korea, showered with offers of aid but no threats of attack.
Unfortunatly there are leaders out there, with relgious beliefs, that have no deterrent, and believe that if they start a war that ends all life, it was meant to be. Preordained, is the word they use. Nuclear weapons must be kept from countries that are ruled by a relgious leader and the president is just a front man.
No Nooks 4 Kooks ! North Koreans are zealots for the Socialist religion ! No Nukes 4 Cukes ! Can we all agree that cucumbers should not possess nuclear weapons .... can't we all just get it on !
You are a tad ambigous Curt, who exactly do you refer to? I love these open ended , subtle, questions, which, if you really think about them, can lead you to some strange places.
Your answer betrays your religiosity. You have a religion and yours says that theirs is evil.
I have no religion. I think they are all nutjobs, jews, christians, muslims,
Can't accept that life is a short fragile thing, so they invent a god and afterlife.
Bullshit.
A belief system is a religion and unless I am mistaken your comments suggest that you are a believer in religious humanism as per your statement that religious people are nutjobs.
Who’s to say that a religion that calls for biting chickens’ heads off is more dangerous than your religion or that of Richard Dawkins’?
"The equipment was supposed to explode after being put to work, in order to dismantle all our systems," What a laugh. Siemens motors will self -destruct without explosives.
Just send 'em "all you can use" free Lucas electronic wiring harnesses.
Lucas. The Prince of Darkness.
Knuck, you sound like a man who likes the sound of a fine-tuned Trumpet.
---76Bonnie
What, no honor among thieves?
Siemans? Just about every "fucking" Jet engine on planet Earth, has a Siemans stamp on it!
what is your point? there are thousands of components in a jet engine.
Otto, you are an "ass hole". You " Reiterate the disdain" in every thing I disagree with!
Placate your knowledge in a positive way!
Otto ? How many jet engine parts are stamped : "Made By Semi-Skilled Muslim Douche Bags" ?
Do you have statistics on how many muslims work for Rockwell or Rocketdyne in the U.S.? I would imagine there are a few - without the Douche-Bag label.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_GVfPuw4M&feature=related
>>>looks like a whole lotta burnt offering(s) >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CDVJ3opuCg&feature=player_embedded What a waste...
As humans, we are still this dumb, amazing.
Thanks. B-H-D. I am no-ones underling. I like the person.
"They're not naming the countries that will be taking part in the naval exercises nor will they be naming the country that will be laying the mines in the Strait of Hormuz" /paraphrase
Bugs Bunny sounds like a New York jew, I never noticed that before.
The whole world's a powder keg now. Bullish for broken windows.
More like bullish for Potassium Iodide tablets!!
The weak and corrupt leaders of the developed world are being managed by the influence and policies of Israel.
The worry out of Iran gaining a nuclear weapon is, if you can believe it, that Iran’s going to use 1 weapon against Israel’s 300 to 600 and shoot that 1 weapon over Tel Aviv and they both will be destroyed!
That is the unrealistic fear: that either one of them would use nuclear weapons. Once you use a nuclear weapon, the other if he has one will use a nuclear weapon. That would be incredible. Nuclear weapons, every since Hiroshima, are used only as nuclear deterrents.
Interestingly, the golf states top concern is Iran becoming nuclear.
So, Israel isn't alone with this worry.
Check you maps.
You many notice that Israel size is like NJ, which means that one nuke delibitates the country.
If you are still not understanding the concern, live in Tel-Aviv for while...
that is a statement that merits a golf clap; as it hits the nail on the button like a ball on its tee. Good drive sir!
J.R. I'm really proud of you! I understand where you are coming from, and what you have to work with.
Russia used tactical nuke against China near lake Baikal in 1968 .... China backed the fuck down in a nano-second ! Nuclear weapons and other applications have been a blessing to mankind .... Rachel Carson of Silent Spring fame has innocent blood all over her liberal puke body !
Anything to back up that claim?
I can't find a thing about it.
I heard it here on ZH ? It was observed that a tactical nuke had been used .... no one claimed responsibility, of course .... it would have to have been the Russkies, nicht wahr ?
I think they are just looking for a discount on their next purchase.
R -U contemplating a long { Bed Bath Beyond}?
Nah, I don`t like the colours that they have.
Convert their washing machines to centrifuges !
I guess it's time to sell out all Siemens stock.
No one outside Nato will buy them.
Which happening also means that fighter aircraft and missiles sold by the US and it's NATO allies are also booby trapped so they cannot be use against them
AHHHH there blows the arms trade!!!!!!
Audi, Volkswagon, Porsche, Ferrari, (ect... I was not picking a fight!
Good enough for a goverment job = good enough for Siemens job
Can I take the " 5TH"?
Come on Iran, you can do better than that. At least make something up like Siemans was the driving force behind the anti Mohammed movie, then at least you would get sympathy from the entire Islamic world as well as the American left.
Hangfire, I deeply appolgize. That was disrespectful of your time.
China has been doing the same thing to the US with drywall and even cabbage patch dolls. The whole game is for corporations to use nations against each other. Anyone bother to think of what the end of that type of game is when it is played with nukes? Interesting. Since corporations lack the capacity for morality I conclude we are going to see a nuclear war. And to think the signs of the end of humanity could have been derived from reading the adorable face of a cloned cabbage patch doll. I hate clowns.
Another healthy does of reality being served up in support of the general thesis of Jim Stone....
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/blackmail.html
and
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima1.html
yu only need to mention one name in the world of industrial sabatoge -Ysreal...
Germany is a minor satrapy of the sionist entity, Merika a major one...they all dance to the same tune...
http://youtu.be/8SbJIlEd6jA
or
http://youtu.be/1mvhDIr0wyc
(Smenge Bros, Live!)
But what if not one bit of it is true?
R U questioning the veracity of that Schmenge Bros documentary bio?
Do yu have not even a glancing familarity with the 'hyper real'?
Afraid not, I was referring to that Jim Stone crap, and I think you knew that.
I am fascinated to hear how Jim's work is 'crap'...so much so that I'll provide yu a platform...
please educate us.
Have already done so previously, and you know I have.
But more to the point, it's self-evident crap.
You're responsible for 'educating' yourself.
sounds like a 'kop-out' to me...in the absence of yur elucidation as to his 'krap' I'll stick with what I know...
he's on the scent of something no one else has the guts to git to...
'self-evident crap'...evidence of solipsistic crap bein spewed by the bucketful here. I honestly thought that yu might have somethin in yur glove!
Siemens has a long history of corruption; here are just some of the allegations…
Siemens Under Investigation For Payments To Russian Company | WSJ | April 30, 2012
Siemens AG said Monday it was under investigation for potentially corrupt payments made by one of its subsidiaries to employees of a Russian company.
The German engineering giant was notified by the Munich public prosecutor’s office in February that a “foreign authority” had asked that office for assistance in “criminal matters,” according to a Siemens regulatory filing. Specifically, the investigation is examining “alleged payments” by a Siemens subsidiary in “North West Europe” to employees of a Russian company between 1999 and 2006, the company said…
Siemens has been dogged by bribery allegations for years. In 2008 the company pleaded guilty to corruption charges in the U.S. and paid $1.6 billion in fines to settle corruption investigations in the U.S. and Germany. Prosecutors in those countries alleged that Siemens had engaged a systemic and far-flung bribery scheme, including in Russia. Siemens allegedly paid bribes to officials at Russian state-owned hospitals and to a quasi governmental entity in Russia responsible for implementing a traffic control system in Moscow.
The massive settlement also sparked investigations in other countries. In March, Siemens agreed to pay EUR270 million in an out-of-court settlement with Greek authorities to resolve a years-long dispute over bribery allegations in that country, without admitting or denying guilt. The company has also disclosed that it is under investigation in Turkey for alleged bribery.
In December, U.S. prosecutors charged six former Siemens executives and two alleged intermediaries with conspiracy to violate the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which prohibits bribes to foreign officials, and other charges…
“The Company remains subject to corruption-related investigations in several jurisdictions around the world,” Siemens said…
http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/04/30/siemens-under-investigation-for-payments-to-russian-company/
Siemens needs to be investigated over their website. Its a fucking disaster zone for an engineer trying to locate product docs etc.
Not to worry, all of the product dox are in untranslate-able German. You can't understand them anyway.
- Ned
{think I'm joking? Talk to the TXU guys}
This has got to be one of the "MoST VIBRANT" threads I have ever had the privilege to be involved in.
I hope the " fantastic ideas", that I have absorbed, come to fruition! God Bless Ya all!
Thats it, no more drinks for you buddy, and hand over your keys, I'll call a taxi.
Glad you enjoyed yourself, See you again next Saturday?
Curt look for "validation", & drinks in your local [P/X] When you explore "Chicago Merc, Exchange" Santelli Style!
Give me a call! I'll call some of my "VC"friends! No VOLTS or Teslas!
i hear the chinese will trade nuke tech for gold, and are quite scrutable.
OTTO is a, corrupt Russian, that is developing a conscience!
Nothing More or Less!
The world is going to end
We re doomed
Yes, on a very long timescale, and
yes, individually on far shorter timescales
Alreighty then, Siemans is a fantastic, " Highly vulnerable" to payoffs company? NO?
Some Russian interest? i - something?
"Look, we’re in a war, and New Zealand knows better than any other country that war is hell and you pay a price when you engage in war.
"But the fact is that the sacrifices that have been made have, in fact, paid off in terms of creating a better course for Afghanistan, and then we’ll have an enduring presence there in which we’ll continue to be there to make sure that all of the gains and all of the successes will continue to be in place for the future."
Leon Panetta thanking Kiwis for our recent dead kids while making the huge sacrifice to fly here first class and be entertained at no cost spared by our retard bank plant politicians. Yay NZ
Do you know what a " YARD" is in F/X? OTTO is a " NAT" on the wind of humanity!
Hey, Mr. P.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhx2j3dMUuQ
Oh shocking. Of course, this kind of behaviour you would not see GE do...
GE traders do it every day, to guarantee energy prices! Good question!
One helluva way to boil water.
Elaborate? / solar-electric-nuclear (all ears
Japan is doing ok as it draws power from a grid without 50 reactors....
Southern Cal will go a second summer w/o San Ofre and all seems well. Before, I was under the impression that eclectricity from Nuke plants was vital to our consumption....now, I'm convinced that the NRC is just another TBTF money machine, and I agree w a post above that nuke plants are weapon breeders.
We have a winner! [Ding Ding] Ineverslice well done!
Very good summary, thank you + 1
Hey ,num nuts! Japan is "crude dependant'! tAKE YOUR BULLSHIT, some where else!
Nuclear in big doses is deadly, That is why it is a deterrent.
But in small doses it is tasteless, ordorless, and will cause mutations in the basic makeup of all living organisims, it is a slow but insidious effect that will cause cancers in the near term and actual evolutionary changes in the long term. Wish your future progeny good luck, they are called the Morlocks.
Yes... and we are about to experience many "big dose" events as more Westinghouse plants have entered "old age", and are too costly to maintain. What to do? Socialize the pain.
You call rolling blackouts "doing ok"?
I call it "3rd world disgraceful".
Been to Japan have ya? Watched a couple "EEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEE" girls on some tube site and think you know a thing or two, do ya?
Stop talking out of your ass - Japan IS IN NO WAY "doing ok".
"Well, you know, I think one of the things that was made clear to me by the Defence Minister is the interest in developing amphibious capability here with the New Zealand forces. And we certainly can help provide assistance in that. The marines are among the best in terms of that capability. And I would hope that, you know, we could develop an approach where we could continue to do exercises, continue to provide training and assistance, continue to provide our expertise and try to build up New Zealand’s capabilities so that you will be in a better position to be able to provide not only for your own security but help us in providing for the security of the Asia-Pacific region."
Leon Panetta letting a shitty little fascist banana (milk) republic in on the secret that its kids are to be fodder for Chinese made machine guns. Yay NZ.
Didn't German submarine crews steal milk from NZ farms during WW 2 ?
And sheep, many sheep... they had no Marinwes on board.
NZ almost had the misfortune of being conquered by a single conman, that's what the shagging does...
Yes that was when we had good Russians and Chinese and bad Japanese and Germans?
Heh, just like in those 'This man is your friend' posters
Lithium /rare earths. Energy Storage, is just the beginning. Lithium cells are 35-60% DURATION CHARGEABLE.
You bore me.
I understand, the energy) that creates something of value, and get "Mis - Understood for it?
I Crawl into mine shafts, ïce covered holes" to support my family! Yes! The holes in 18th century mines do exist!
I won't expose the places.
Silver mines they are.
You effin termites1 Enjoy the "C-130 deliveries" , ungrateful assholes!
pussy junkstaz!
I'll call a cab.
+5
Japan is 87% energy dependant! You effen retards, make me laugh!
Let's stick to the "pretext"of tylers post! Read the charts? STUXNET disabled software!
Stuxnet didn't disable software, it altered software to cause damaged to uranium enrichment centrifuges.
All these so called "survivalists"are giant pussies!
En vino postathon.
I personally, have a lot of respect for Turkey! I am glad that the turkish"UNDERSTATED"air force is kicking some ass!
People claw back "False Flags"" , and i Laugh! We went to the moon, and got caught off guard on "2001''.
The space shuttle "Endeavor", flying into lax was a great feeling!
I have a hunch, we will be tested again!
All your Semens belong to us.
You are a smart person Knuckles. I'm thinking 12 hours from now will be a good indicator.
Good on ya
12 hours from your post, your head gonna' be ...
...It seems you can't turn your back on the Middle East for more than a few minutes without something going bump in the desert...
What did that Neo-con spokesman say in the heat of "War of Civilizations", GBW's new crusade in IRaK , when chastising the French for their critique of US "WMD" spiel in the UN in 2003?
"We live on Mars, while you Europeans live on Venus!"....Robert Kagan said that in his seminal article "the Power and the weakness" announcing the Irak decision, to summarise the difference between US imperial attitudes and EUropean dovish ones.
That sums it up very well again today ten years later. Pax Americana has an unfinished agenda in the ME, just like Hitler did when he annexed Czechoslovakia; he had to go on to Poland. That was his Karma.
"We will go to Poland while you debate like the Constantinople elders how many angels can sit on a pin head ", sums it up very well, once again.
Might is right. On goes the fight. But this time there is water under the bridge of past mayhem amongst the legions of Rome, and, there is now the emerging might of China and its new allies in the region; aka Iran, maybe PAkistan and Russia.
Europe is now marginal in this military conflict; Siemans false flag or no false flag.
We have the makings of the 1930s scenario all over again; as we are in the great depression.
Hey Falek tURBAN HEAD! You fuck tard! Loose the neo-con bullshit! I'll paste your worthless F/X trades on Z/H you douche bag wanabe euro trader!
Why in the Hell any one would trade the euro is beyond me!
ha, you can talk other language than baloney trade talk. Good to know that. As they say, up yours, and shaken not stirred, as James B would say.
Neo-con bullshit is very much in the air; like it or not, its the sign of those who hold the world by the nuts. Reality is what it is. And it aint trading in a bent market.
If you really want to learn to trade, ask. This isn't (Forex Live). Typical "Persian wanabe" Hey waterboy?
I cleared 18% 0n 100k over the last 10 days (pretax). You are a ? something
you are so full of "something" you need a good wash out. Don't show your love of all things asian its hanging from you nose, like snot.
Falek you are a joke! let me give you a tip, Camel Jockey! Cable is so over sold you can make some money there.
You are a fucking clown! You trade on Instinct! You are are a moron! I'll bet you got short "aud" on thursday! You make me laugh!
Guys like you, goal post traders! I love taking your $s. I'm gonna get ya again on the gap in Asia!
...Now its coming out of your ears....the hubris.
read this a-hole and meditate : Mars et Vénus, 10 ans après | Presseurop (français)
If you can speak other language than Forex.
I don't trade, I have been known to invest. So f*** off! If you understand body language.
Falek Puka, get a life! You know I'm telling the truth, Fuck Wad! You know it ! You won't admit it! You can't trade!
You have ZERO SKILS! LOOSER!
you know that you are funny...like Hitler was in "the great dictator".
Swastika Yen, bouncing the Forex on his finger!
The whole world bows to your acumen. lol!
Have fun with that exotic. nok/cyn . Or that other dumb shit long trade you made. aud/usd long, when the 4hour is going to get poounded! Get short "GBP/JPY" moron! I just gave ya one!
Makes me wonder if the Greeks double checked their tanks.
The submarines Germany gave to Israel are booby-trapped too?
*sheepish grin*
Everyone knew Seimens equipment ran the Iranian facility. File this one under Meh.
Lets take a look at some stories from Zerohedge, see if a pattern is emerging:
German State Of Saxony Supports Legal Action Against ECB
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/german-state-saxony-supports-legal-action-...
Spot The Odd One Out
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/spot-odd-one-out-5
A German court is going to sue the ECB and oil prices are dropping (bad for Russia by the way, who just so happens to be a major stumbling block in Syria), so how should this be fixed?
Why? A scandal involving a major German company and a war drum beating session of course!
Game theory aside, I think some pattern recognition would help too.
It is true that there is a chance that all the entities involved in this game / theatrical episode are all gnashing their teeth, impatiently waiting to tear eachother apart. Alternatively, (as has happened plenty of times in the past) they could well be working together (in perfect harmony) to help the powers that be. For once, the clue is in the attitude of the door mats (government-sponsored trolls).
At this time, my guess is as good as yours.
If TPTB is conspiring against Siemens, it's because they stated several times on CNBC that they are hedging for an EZ breakup - can't have a non-bank do that /not so sarc
Achmed! You broke the centrifuge!
What to do?
We tell the Mullah that the Germans sabotaged it at the factory. Here, put this grenade in. Let's get out!
And you believe this? Seriously?
The douche bag " ruskies" are working the thread tonight!
http://rense.com/general69/dayone.htm
In this writeup replace "Bush" with potus, "Rumsfeld" with Obama's main man.....
Sounds very realistic. Gas at $10/gallon.
Guys that make $ , are despised! That is why we donate so much!
What the article reports would not surprise me.
Along with that,perhaps I cannot read very well but you make the call.
It seems that a certain terrorist group has now been taken off the terrorist list because they have renounced their violent ways.
So,Our U.S. leadership along with the legal system are going to fund and give this terrorists group weapons and funds to stir up shit in Iran.
WTF
At the same time Susie homemaker goes on the terrorist list here in the U.S.
Fuck the law,just rewrite it to suit your fancy and commit murder,rape,pillage,burn,scorch the entire planet.Your Fascist government cares about you. LOL
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/09/washington-iran-mujahe...
You can lobby Capitol Hill for most anything and get it if you have enough money.
The L.A. Times has a sordid history; it is a pro-Israel bought newspaper, even firing well-known columnist Robert Scheer who often criticized central banker corruption.
Now, more than three years of bitter legal conflict after real estate magnate Sam Zell lost financial control in bankruptcy, the LA Times reported in July that the judge in the Tribune Co.'s bankruptcy case has approved “a plan to transfer ownership of the Chicago media company to a group of hedge funds and banks based in Los Angeles and New York (including JP Morgan). The Tribune owns the Los Angeles Times, KTLA-TV Channel 5, the Chicago Tribune and other media properties.
“The new Tribune will be controlled by financial interests on the East and West coasts.”
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/14/business/la-fi-tribune-bankruptcy-20120714
It was Rahm Emanuel and Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill in 2007 who pressured the FCC to “act quickly” on the sale of the LAT to Chicago-based real-estate investor Sam Zell ( worth $4.9 billion) who used financial self-dealing to buy the newspaper, “borrowing against the employee pension and stock ownership program. He himself only put $315 million into the total $8.5 billion deal.”
According to Matt Stoller, Emanuel and Durbin argued “that the FCC shouldn't allow its review of its media- ownership rules to delay completion of the transaction.”
Says Stoller, “Both Dick Durbin and Rahm Emanuel received substantial donations from… Zell, with Emanuel having an especially close set of ties. Zell gave to him for his contested 2002 primary slot, after Emanuel had just finished his stint as a Chicago investment banker. Their social worlds are so close that Emanuel actually attended the strongly pro-Israel school that Zell built.”
If all this isn’t bad enough, on May 22, 2012, the Columbia Journalism Review reported that the Los Angeles Times, “still one of the most powerful news organizations in the country, will receive a $1 million grant from the Ford Foundation, and thus join the growing ranks of journalism outlets funded in part by major philanthropy.”
Says the CJR: "The worst case scenario is that the Sam Zells of the world (Sam Zell remains Tribune Company’s chairman, but you can think of him as a stand in for anyone you’d rather not have controlling a newspaper) will take grant-funded coverage as a further excuse to slash every part of their newspapers that isn’t either profitable or subsidized."
http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/ford_foundation_los_angeles_ti.php
Additionally, the Ford Foundation keeps questionable bedfellows and is one of the contributors to the racist organization, La Raza. For the period 1992 to 1996, the total amounts of “gifts, grants and contributions to La Raza was more than $38 million. And its donations come with attachments. The organization receives two-thirds of its funding from corporations and foundations including major support from the Ford Foundation and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the latter having given $6.6 million in 2002.
http://www.infowars.com/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-gave-millions-to-la-raza/\
It gets better /worse,The people behind this are the same people that you will readily recognize as the REAL TERRORISTS
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/08/are_the_mek_s_us_frie... Careful the picture you see of one of those individuals may cause stomach upset.
Thank you Zerohedge and SGT report for all your support to the public on the real stories of what is happening and giving us a voice to speak our opinions.
Appreciate it .
Cult of " Non Criminality" Sir?/
Yen
The name, is in respect to what we on the planet Earth are faced with everyday.
Thanks for asking
• sirs
I thought Siemens had pulled out of nuclear power
http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/response-to-fukushima-sieme...
Besides centrifuges come from Urenco
http://www.urenco.com/news/2/about-urenco.aspx
which is where A Q Khan got the blueprints and parts to build Pakistan's nuclear programme
Clear; lets discuss "hi- Bypass" turbofans. EADS's and Boeing are exploring a joint venture, with a multi fusalage design.
Any comments?
Any fellow engineers here on ZH ?
Was trying to research the actual details on the Manhattan project last night to confirm an idea
I had.
Bearing in mind that project had both huge theroretical and practical hurdles to overcome,how
long did it take to produce enough HEU to complete three bombs ?
A)less than 12 months.
B)18 months.
c)24 months.
The Iranians have had centrifuges since 1989.
but it was only 3, and only 2 were HEU
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=richard+rhodes&sts=t&tn...
and the Manhattan Project exceeded the size of the then wartime automotive/armored vehicle industry.
And your point is well taken.
- Ned
My mom took us to the Oakridge, Tennessee plant in 1956 .... she wanted to know if they needed any Guinea Kids for their radiation experiments ! They did have a machine that would make your dime radioactive .... any traitorous, class action attorney's listening ?
My chemistry set circa 1949 had two really neat items. A little glass tube ( with a cork) that contained a yellowish-greenish powder. Radium. And a little square patch of what looked like sandpaper. Uranium oxide. At night I could get under the covers and sprinkle the radium onto the uranium and watch the fascinating little sparkles erupt. Cool. Almost as cool as going down to the shoe store and looking at the bones inside my foot in the unshielded X-Ray machine they had there. Took all kinds of things down to look at them in that machine - dead birds, frogs, etc. Nice old man that ran the place told me I was going to be a scientist someday. I'm 71 now and so far no cancer - must all be a myth. Radiation is actually good for you. I say bring it on. Duck and cover is for sissies.
While you're at it, give me a plate of those Pacific NW oysters. Yum.
Know what Fukushima means in Japanese? "Like, we give a shit". (Rough translation).
And finally let's all remember - guns 'n missiles 'n drones 'n bombs don't kill people - governments kill people. Just sayin'.
I love oysters .... but a little radiation couldn't hurt the belly sludge of those little bottom feeders ? The belly sludge is where all the flavor is !
Tyler, the "Online Newspaper" thing ? Should we Z/H readers get together?
Just asking? We are "Fair Warning" you!
When the Turks go full Ottoman and place an entire armored division on the border (or better yet, 3rd Corps in its entirety), please wake me up then.
Germany selling arms to Iran eh?
Anybody else think that when all this blows up, the lines will be drawn down the middles of the oceans?
Labrador looks pretty good right now.