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America's Deadliest And Poorest City Set To Disband Its Entire Police Force Over Budget Crisis

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While the stock market in the US continues to surge (if not so much in China where the composite is back to 2009 lows) as the relentless liquidity tsunami makes its way into stocks, and other Fed frontrunning instruments, and only there, reality for everyone else refuses to wait. Last week we saw reality striking in Greece, where a section of Athens literally shut down after it ran out of all cash. Today, reality comes to the US, and specifically its poorest city, Camden, which is a twofer, doubling down also as America's deadliest city. It turns out Camden is about to become even deadliest-er, as its police force is set to be disbanded following a budget crisis in this effectively insolvent city.

AP reports:

This city, long among the nation's poorest and most crime-ridden, is on the verge of dismantling its police department and starting anew with a force run by the county government.


City officials are making the move to increase the number of officers while keeping the cost the same by averting rules negotiated with a union that city officials have seen as unwilling to compromise.


Unless the union - which is skeptical of the stated motivations for the change - reaches a deal with the county, no more than 49 per cent of the city's current officers could join the new force and those that do will get pay cuts.


John Wilson, a 57-year-old unemployed baker who's lived in the city his whole life, thinks it's worth a try.


'The police in Camden clearly haven't been doing their job,' he said last week as he walked to his home in the Parkside neighborhood, which has seen six homicides since the start of 2011.


'Any change has to be better. It can't get worse now.'

Oh yes it can. Here's why:

Officials say there are about 170 drug markets operating in this city of 77,000 near Philadelphia, more than 700 people on parole and 600 registered sex offenders.


The murder rate is unthinkably high. In 2007, Newark attracted national attention for a record number of homicides.


As of Friday, there had been 47 murders this year. The city record of 58 was set in 1995.

One can only hope this is not a harbinger of what is coming to all American cash flow, not money dilution ability, ends. Sadly, for Camden there is no more hope.

The city has the nation's highest poverty rate with more than two residents in five living in poverty, census data show.


The big factories that once made Camden an industrial boomtown have been gone for a generation.


Over the past decade, revitalization efforts focused on expanding hospitals and universities, which brought some life to downtown but had a less discernible effect on neighborhoods where even the best-kept blocks have abandoned homes.


The city expects only $25 million of its $150 million next proposed budget to come from property taxes. Most of the rest is supplied by state aid - and that's declining.

Think massive ECB bailouts, which in the US are far more streamlined. As for the local residents who still are paying property taxes, it may be prudent to just take your real estate losses and move on. Or else...

In January 2011, the city government conducted massive layoffs, including nearly half the police department and about one-third of the firefighters.


Since then, all the laid-off public safety workers have been called back, but their numbers have fallen through attrition.


Now, there are 270 police officers, down from 450 in 2005 and 368 the day before the layoffs.


Police Chief Scott Thomson, who is slated to lead the Camden County Police Department's Metro Division, points to crime statistics for the two years before the layoffs that showed the crime declining.


He says it's because of intensive community policing efforts that came about when detectives were reassigned from desk jobs to patrols and the force was able to be more proactive.


With the smaller force, he said, walking and biking beats are used more sparingly.

In the meantime, the local cops are all preparing to bail as entitlement funding runs out

The Fraternal Order of Police lodge that represents Camden's rank-and-file officers is upset that they have not been presented with a formal plan.


Cappelli says officers in the new department would have base salaries that are the same or higher than what they make now - ranging from $31,000 for a rookie to about $80,000.


Officers' health insurance contributions would increase, and officers would also lose longevity and shift differential payments that combined can boost their pay up to 22 per cent.


The plan is to start hiring for the new force in October and have a mix of city and county police patrol the city during a training period before shutting down the city department sometime in the first few months of 2013.

The plan will not work. Good luck Camden: you will need it in your transformation to the first circle of US hell, soon to be joined by many more.

And here are some pictures of just what Dante would see in his modern descent into America.

Shocking crimes: A Camden police officer stands in the doorway of a home on August 22 in New Jersey's most impoverished city, where authorities say a 2-year-old boy was decapitated, apparently by his mother

Shocking crimes: A Camden police officer stands in the doorway of a home on August 22 in New Jersey's most impoverished city, where authorities say a 2-year-old boy was decapitated, apparently by his mother

Fight: A supporter of the Camden Police Department speaks during a hearing before the New Jersey Senate Judiciary Committee, in Trenton

Fight: A supporter of the Camden Police Department speaks during a hearing before the New Jersey Senate Judiciary Committee, in Trenton

Forces dwindling: There are now 270 police officers in Camden, down from 450 in 2005 and 368 the day before the layoffs

Forces dwindling: There are now 270 police officers in Camden, down from 450 in 2005 and 368 the day before the layoffs

Run down: Crack houses have sprung up amid the boarded-up factories and burned out houses in Camden

Run down: Crack houses have sprung up amid the boarded-up factories and burned out houses in Camden


Abject poverty: The unemployment rate in Camden skyrocketed from less than 9 per cent to more than 20 per cent during the recession

Abject poverty: The unemployment rate in Camden skyrocketed from less than 9 per cent to more than 20 per cent during the recession

Gone: Camden police officers will lose their jobs at the end of the year when the department is disbanded

Gone: Camden police officers will lose their jobs at the end of the year when the department is disbanded


Decay: The Camden police have struggled to keep up with the soaring murder rate, amid layoffs and budget cuts

Decay: The Camden police have struggled to keep up with the soaring murder rate, amid layoffs and budget cuts

Decay: Soaring unemployment and the flight of thousands of city residents has resulted in urban blight spreading across the city

Decay: Soaring unemployment and the flight of thousands of city residents has resulted in urban blight spreading across the city

Run-down: Residents look out over the gutter city where almost half of people are unemployed

Run-down: Residents look out over the gutter city where almost half of people are unemployed




And for reference purposes, here are two gratutious clips from the beginning of Judgment Night:



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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:53 | 2824260 LULZBank
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Long Crime Bitchezz!!!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:58 | 2824279 slaughterer
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Heard Knight Capital is relocating their HFT prop desks to those crack houses in Camden.  Good times. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:04 | 2824299 Pladizow
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Coming soon to a city near you!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:12 | 2824350 Clashfan
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Yep, it's "one more time in the ghetto."

"Must I get a witness

to all this misery?"

"The old lady kicks karate

for just a little walk down the street."

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:16 | 2824376 camaro68ss
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Marshal law bitchez!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:23 | 2824400 camaro68ss
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That “save corridor” sign is brilliant! Must do wonders in that area. Only if the rest of America could put up similar signs the world would be a better place.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:45 | 2824455 hedgeless_horseman
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"There are going to be situations where people are going to go without assistance. That's just the facts of life." - Los Angeles Police Chief Daryl Gates

So, you are a successful trader, speculator, investor, money manager, and is typical, have little patience. Something has been bothering you. You have been reading Zero Hedge long enough that you are now absolutely convinced that TEOTWAWKI is indeed nigh, and it could well be quite violent. You have also decided that you want to do something to prepare, beyond getting short the equity markets and going long gold and silver coins, but you do not know what to do, exactly. The HELP function on your Bloomberg terminal is, unsurprisingly, not helpful. A quick review of the government and Red Cross emergency preparedness websites tells you nothing about guns. This is problematic, as you fear that we all might be returning to a time in history where it is a common occurrence to fight for one's life, and you know that we usually do that in today's day and age with guns, or a knife close in.


What to do?





Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:50 | 2824510 prains
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First things first


1. Acquire a heart rate that can work above 72 bpm for sustained intervals, preferably 175 bpm for 2 hours, also be able to operate said heart rate in the dark over rough terrain. In other words RUN FUCKERS RUN

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:56 | 2824538 12ToothAssassin
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2nd rule of ZombieLand: Cardio

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 18:29 | 2826021 AldousHuxley
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why do you need police in the ghetto? to protect what? rundown homes?

it is like paying for a security guard in front of a bankrupted bank.


wait....that's USA today. best military technology protecting banks with no money.






Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:25 | 2824543 hedgeless_horseman
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Get yourself in shape so you can run for your life. Go running, no matter how slowly, five times per week. Work yourself up to 30-minutes during the week, and then a longer run on the weekends. After each run, do three sets of as many push-ups as you can do. When you go see your doctor to ask for permission to get healthy, ask her to find some way to get you off any drugs you currently require to survive, and to please write you a post-apocalyptic "ditch medicine" prescription for a broad spectrum open wound MRSA antibiotic like Bactrim DS (or something else if you have a sulfa allergy).



Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:51 | 2824518 Urban Redneck
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1) Form a syndicate and underwrite the "shovel ready infrastructure" to ring fence Camden, and issue Barry's Blue Shirts guns to walk the wall with...

2) Order the pet congress-critters to switch off the VACANCY sign at Motel FEMA.

3) Follow on offering and Groupon Greyhound bus vouchers to a "Red" state.


Option 1 would most benefit their bottom line-

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:55 | 2824530 12ToothAssassin
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I keep trying to buy 5.7mm ammo but its never in stock!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:02 | 2824559 hedgeless_horseman
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In Stock and this is a reliable company.  My local stores all carry it in quantity.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:32 | 2824978 Zymurguy
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I'd recommend getting rid of any non-common caliber firearms and ammo.  5.7???  What is that?  Just kidding :)

But, if you can't buy it at a rural general store, conv. store, Walmart, etc. - forget it.  Get yourself set up w/ 9mm, .40, .45acp, 5.56/.223, 7.62/.308, 7.62x39mm, etc. etc.  Ditch those exotic "varmint" rounds, etc.  If you can't find ammo for it now - you'll NEVER find it when things go in the shitter.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:15 | 2825072 hedgeless_horseman
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The FN 5.7x28 PDW platform is an excellent choice for the target audience and given mission.

Included on the list is an advanced, easy to use, compact, and highly reliable personal-defense weapon system that is made by FN Herstal, currently the largest arms manufacturer for the U.S. military. The FN FiveseveN pistol (get the model with tritium night sights installed) and PS90 rifle (Tri-Rail model) each fire the same 5.7 x 28 ammunition, which, along with these two weapons, is extremely light to carry. These weapons' standard magazines hold 20 and 50 rounds, respectively.  Unlike many old-school firearms, these are actually fun to learn to operate, because they are so light, yet still have no felt recoil (aka kick). 

The nice thing about guns is, unlike women, they do not mind if you have a bunch of them. 

If you can't find ammo for it now - you'll NEVER find it when things go in the shitter.

I do read this idea, frequently.  For me, being able to carry to the fight, and then employ and win the first "310 trigger pulls and reloads" in a TEOTWAWKI scenario is a higher priority than being able to "find" ammunition.  If you are doing it right, 310 rounds of single fire is a whole lot of gunfighting...more than I hope I will ever have to endure. 

Still, if it is TEOTWAWKI, no caliber of ammo is likely to be available, unless it is off dead bodies, and then they are just as happy to give up their rifle as their ammo.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:27 | 2825649 ZackAttack
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To my mind, the round you choose has to be good for self-defense and a spectrum of game. Ideally, you want a rifle and pistol that share the same round. Ideally, the firearms themselves should be dead-simple.

The best compromise I came up with was a .357 revolver (actually, two of them) and a lever rifle. Great for self-defense in full-powered rounds. The carbine is (adequate) at shorter ranges on ungulates. For small game, I learned over the years the accuracy that .38 Spl wadcutters are capable of.

They work great with cast bullets. I've been saving brass and primers for several years now and accumulating powder and bar lead. You can use lead tire weights if need be.

That was my choice, now I'm spending my time improving my skills with them.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:07 | 2824584 Fíréan
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So, you are a successful trader, speculator, investor, money manager, and is typical, have little patience. Something has been bothering you. You have been reading Zero Hedge



A successful trader, speculator, investor, money manager . . . reading Zero Hedge , you gotta be kidding ? 

Those days are long gone.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:39 | 2824461 12ToothAssassin
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'Any change has to be better. It can't get worse now.'



Warning: It can always get worse.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:19 | 2824639 Mr. Regression
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Don't give Mitt any ideas.  What a great way to solve our crime problems.  Just put up a bunch of "safe corridor" signs and fire all the cops!   Can't wait for my $10.00 tax cut.  God bless those guys who are still out there in Camden.  It must be pretty scary sometimes.  Hey, maybe one of our presidential contenders can stop in and let fly some ideas on what to do with this canary in our nations coal mine.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:20 | 2824643 Mr. Regression
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Don't give Mitt any ideas.  What a great way to solve our crime problems.  Just put up a bunch of "safe corridor" signs and fire all the cops!   Can't wait for my $10.00 tax cut.  God bless those guys who are still out there in Camden.  It must be pretty scary sometimes.  Hey, maybe one of our presidential contenders can stop in and let fly some ideas on what to do with this canary in our nations coal mine.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:28 | 2825221 Cathartes Aura
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dudes, learn doublespeak.  when you see "safe corridor" signs, or "drug free zones" posted, etc. - KNOW that these are shake down areas for the local enFORCEment uni-Formed. . .

The Safe Corridor initiative is part of an effort by the New Jersey Department of Transportation, and departments from other states, to improve the safety of its roads. Roads with accident and fatality rates above the average may have some of their lengths designated as "Safe Corridor" areas. In these areas, traffic fines are doubled.

revenue, like everything else the people labour under. . .

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:08 | 2825345 pods
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I-81 going through PA is littered with these safety corridors.  

Or as I like to call them, enhanced revenue extraction zones.

Yet another reason to avoid PA, along with horrible roads and snail's pace bridge renovation.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:31 | 2824428 Money 4 Nothing
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Martial Law.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:38 | 2824460 Ignorance is bliss
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Marshal law enforced by whom?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:38 | 2824695 Temporalist
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Don't you worry, Tavis Smiley and Cornell West have this all figured out.  They are on a poverty tour through Amerika and according to them "Poverty is the new slavery!"

There is even a letter to the president on their website:

Tell the President to Convene a White House
Conference on the Eradication of Poverty

"Dear Mr. President:
I’m sick and tired of a country that only works for the 1 percent of the
wealthiest Americans while millions of Americans face unemployment,
underemployment, and poverty. I urge you to stand up for the struggling
99 percent and call for a White House Conference on the Eradication of
Poverty that will lead to long-term solutions and living-wage jobs for all


See, all fixed.  Obama got this.  No need to pay car payments, house payments, work, medical bills, student loans...all going to be free.  Just gotta pay those taxes though [unless your income is from not working] which means you're probably fucked unless you're super rich.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:02 | 2825123 Watauga
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da, da marshalls? 

Martial.  Mars-the god of war.  Marshal law?  What the heck is that? 

Martial law is generally the imposition of MILITARY force to domestic chaos. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:33 | 2825233 Cathartes Aura
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mars, the god of war, and the man archetype, the symbol is a circle with an arrow pointing upwards at about 2 on the clockface - like an erection. . .

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:17 | 2824380 economics9698
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The number one argument for free abortion clinics.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:58 | 2824832 zapdude
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How does murdering innocent babies in any way alleviate the plague of rampant crime and a corrupt govt / police force?

Normally I really like your posts econ, but this one sucks. 

Curious & serious -- who is the MMA fighter in your avatar pic?  Always wanted to know.  Mine is Akuma from the Street Fighter series.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:32 | 2825446 zapdude
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Wow.  The pro-baby-murder trolls are certainly out today. 

Where in the Libertarian credo is it celebrated and encouraged to DEPRIVE the most fragile in our society of their basic right to live, regardless of their parents deplorable lifestyles?

Just be glad YOUR mothers were pro-life you ungrateful hypocrites.

If you don't love freedom and liberty, you don't belong on ZH.  If you can't see how babies have the same basic rights to freedom and liberty as you or I do, you don't belong on ZH.  Troll somewhere else.

Sovle the root cause of the crime & corruption, and don't murder babies.  Seems simple to me.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:36 | 2824840 zapdude
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:28 | 2825435 object_orient
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People dependent on welfare have a financial incentive to produce more children. Your free clinic will have a different clientele than you imagine.


I'm sure it's been said further down the thread, but isn't Camden a great argument for drug decriminalization? Almost all the crime and violence there is an obvious result of the war on drugs.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:39 | 2825474 zapdude
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To your point -- remove the incentives in the welfare system so it doesn't reward irresponsible behavior.  No murdering of babies.

Remember this test of morality:  how you treat the weak & defenseless is your true nature. 


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:44 | 2825714 BlackholeDivestment
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Economics9698, you are now risen in contempt. You shall perish.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:35 | 2824447 fuu
Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:14 | 2824359 ParkAveFlasher
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If I were a rich man, I'd be buying every last industrial lot in the place.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:16 | 2824372 EscapeKey
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Camden's still got quite a distance to go in order to match Detroit.

It's getting there, though, I just think you're a bit too quick off the mark.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:55 | 2824534 ParkAveFlasher
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No, no, my comment was meant to be sung to Tevyeh's tune in "Fiddler on the Roof". 

Actually, we are all likely very late to the mark.  Real estate is a slow burn. 

Wider Panama Canal and melting ice cap means North East USA industrial land is the play of the century.  Of the century.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:36 | 2825243 Cathartes Aura
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I got yer toon.

and know that someone already owns the "land" where the decay is, and will pick up their tab once it's burned, vacated. . .

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:39 | 2825251 caconhma
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"Residents look out over the gutter city where almost half of people are unemployed”

We indeed need REAL socialism: One who doesn't work doesn't eat. It is that simple. All this social-engineering must stop.


The change will not come thru a ballot box but rather thru a revolution or a military takeover.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:32 | 2826264 seek
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They don't have that much further to go to match Detroit.

However, you want scary... East St. Louis. Detroit's violent crime rate would have to triple to get into ESL territory.

A family of 4 in ESL will have a member experience a violent crime (murder, rape, robbery, assault) on average once every 2 years. Camden is a fucking paradise in comparision -- the reported number of crimes in Camden is higher because they don't even bother reporting property crimes in ESL.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:05 | 2824580 Whoa Dammit
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The rich men already own the slums. Look up the property records in any blighted area of the US & see who is benefiting.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:24 | 2824664 Mr. Regression
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That might be why you're not rich.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:05 | 2825566 CPL
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I don't believe gentification is in the works or being planned.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:09 | 2824594 Stock Tips Inve...
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The economic crisis is beginning to affect all areas of our lives. Public safety is one of them. It is very important that the authorities set priorities. There are many subjects to be experiencing major budget cuts. Public safety should not be one of these sectors.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 17:13 | 2825798 zerozulu
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Legalize the "DRUGS" and tax them and you need no police anyway.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:59 | 2824284 smlbizman
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im from baltimore and i demand a recount...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:34 | 2824442 Anglo Hondo
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Looks just like a whole lot of west Baltimore along Rt 40. "The Wire" showed a lot of realistic run-down Baltimore.

Thank God I'm on the other side in Fells Point.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:59 | 2824558 12ToothAssassin
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Thank goodness the natives wont leave their enclave when food gets scarce.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:15 | 2825376 silverserfer
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what they gotz to do is learn to grow their own food n shit. word. and plant a crack garden. n some weed too.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:38 | 2825684 tickhound
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I thought we declared victory in the War on Drugs?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:28 | 2824670 akak
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(Decay into poverty, crime and hopelessness)



(But nobody said the change would be for the better)

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:14 | 2824887 HungrySeagull
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Baltimore eh?

Ah yes. Mobtown. Not that mob... but the actual mobs of People who have twice blocked military movements and once required a invasion in '68 to Pacify.




Just getting started.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:01 | 2824291 Divided States ...
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We should have create high paying jobs at Camden, like a Federal Reserve Bank of Camden, then we transfer one of the Fed buffoons (Evans, Kohn, Williams, Rosengren, Yellen or better yet Bernanke) there to run the show. We see how long they last.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:03 | 2824296 slaughterer
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FoxConn, we have a location for a US factory for you.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:48 | 2824764 BooMushroom
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Room and board, plus 1750 calories per person per day, and $1.50 per hour. Security guaranteed with CCTV and company guards.

They'd have to do plenty of random drug tests, though.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:16 | 2824894 HungrySeagull
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No thanks. Payme 5.00 and all the drugs I can handle. I'll provide my own security if you expense me the ammunition and body removal.

Not that drugs, smokes and drinks.



Whaddahole. */Jersey accent.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:01 | 2824292 Dr. Richard Head
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The third-worldification of the US is going smoothly for the elite. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:09 | 2824337 azzhatter
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yep, if we can just get them a little more desperate they too will work for $2 a day

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:33 | 2824438 gatorengineer
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Theres not a welfare queen in Camden that would work for $15 an hour.................

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:59 | 2824557 Lohn Jocke
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Funny, $15/hr is just shy of the rookie cops' salary

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:16 | 2825614 CPL
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I don't know a kid that would cut a lawn for $20.

It has come to the point where money and achievement are completely meaningless.  One collegue I know quit IT eight years ago as a Senior DBA.  When he quit the market was about even in terms of salary to what he was making as a DBA.  I recall his course was pricy in the 90's but as a young lad, he need bread to buy the cool things with all those other crazy kids, like food and rent.

He did his bit, started at 65k a year and peaked at 70k after being laid off about four times.  So he built a painting business on the side because costs as always were rising.  Needless to say the industry is minus one of the guys , many hundreds of homes, offices, garage doors later his company makes around 2k a day.  He mentions and rants about a couple things often.

  1. Kids and adults under the age of 25 don't stick around longer than their first paycheck
  2. $25 is the starting point to keep them around that long.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:04 | 2824309 aint no fortuna...
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cue, market rallies to HoD

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:10 | 2824345 Grinder74
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Looking at that last picture, it makes you wonder where all the environmental wackos are, and why they don't come in, raze rows of houses and plant some trees to combat the TBTF "global warming".

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:11 | 2824871 MachoMan
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because the wackos don't actually pay for conservation...  hunters and fishermen do...  and they have bigger fish to fry.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 10:00 | 2827655 Jethro
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But, it looks as if a controlled burn might be in order.  Going from history, the natives tend to burn their own neighborhoods with alarming regularity.

Since most of the manufacturing jobs have left, there is a surplus people problem now.  The problem would sort itself out if it were allowed to, but government has a knack for prolonging problems.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:17 | 2824903 HungrySeagull
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Wackers tend to get whacked by those protecting Graffitti that divides up gang turf. Dontcha know?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:28 | 2824415 icanhasbailout
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actually, with the record of police corruption in New Jersey in general and Camden in particular, disbanding the police force should make crime go down.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:03 | 2824856 serog
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I think the article is only referencing reported crime.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:10 | 2824869 serog
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I think the article is only referencing reported crime.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:46 | 2824496 Random_Robert
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When is Proshares going to start trading their 3x leveraged inner-city murder rate ETF...?


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:55 | 2824803 Ruffcut
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I was wondering where I wanted to move to. Problem solved.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:18 | 2824905 HungrySeagull
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Heh. Might be just the place.

No need to beg some fat cat permission to breathe when you can just ventilate.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:27 | 2824958 Dick Gazinia
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Do they have a nice sports stadium that could be used "coleseum" style?  Sell tickets to the bloodbath.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:56 | 2824272 becky quick and...
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maybe then can borrow the ed 209 from detroit.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:57 | 2824274 Seorse Gorog fr...
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Vibrant Camden Town

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:58 | 2824276 Red Heeler
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When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:07 | 2824317 LMAOLORI
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A gun in hand is better then a cop on the phone. Shocking this completely Democrat run (they don't even have a Republican party in Camden) controlled for years is going the same way or worse then Detroit another Democrat run city just shocking!


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:34 | 2824441 saints51
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As long as the checks keeping coming in on da 1st of da month

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:40 | 2824465 quasimodo
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Brown bag booze bitches!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:04 | 2824579 bank guy in Brussels
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Great website on that tradition I observed when visiting America many years ago, the popular USA ghetto fruity flavoured 'bum wine', the items with names like

Mad Dog 20/20, Night Train Express, Thunderbird

Famous ad jingle:

« What's the Word?


How's it sold?

Good and Cold! »

We have quite cheap generic wines in Europe, and our 'winos' often have in hand a 'litron' (1 litre bottle) of wine that is yet not bad table wine ... but the American fruity-colour 'bum wine' culture remains distinctive

Pictures, ghetto-edge stores where to buy in the US ... great site. Hilarious reviews like « ... if you like to smell your hand after pumping gas [petrol], look no further ... »

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:21 | 2824647 Clashfan
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I was bouncing at a bar in San Jose CA back in 91. A bum came through night after night, doing magic tricks for customers. He was pretty good, but eventually I had to toss him out.

One day, we drank some Cisco together. He warned me about it, but I paid no heed. Simple, fruity wine, right? What could it do?

You have to be careful with the Cisco. Believe me. Never again.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:20 | 2825195 Nikao7
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Aaaah Cisco...We called it fighting juice back in the day.  Shit will tear a man up :)

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:23 | 2824653 blunderdog
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These days, the sugary "malt beverages" are a better value.  Something like $1.50 will buy a 24oz can of an almost TOXIC blend of melted Flav-O-Ice and alcohol.  Alcohol content goes as high as 12%, which is comparable to several of the old standbys.

The biggest advantage is that they're easier to shoplift from a deli.  Guys in liquor stores are often armed.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:15 | 2824891 saints51
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Their T- shirt is pretty damn awesome. I will ask them if I can get a polo style shirt so I can where it to my next jury duty summons or court appearance when I gathering more skills for civil disobedience.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:19 | 2824910 HungrySeagull
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Never drank the stuff. Rotgut.


Now da white lightning. Enjoyed a shot a time, one is enough.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:19 | 2825189 Strider52
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Me & a friend once had to go to "Alcohol School", cuz we got caught with a kegger buried at the nearby beach. The class was taught by an ex-alkie, who said "After YEARS of of research, we found that the cheapest drink with the most amount of alcohol was....Night Train Express." Natcherly, after the class, we looked for Night Train Express, since we just HAD to try it. It is filth, but you WILL get drunk.

Wed, 09/26/2012 - 08:23 | 2831310 Clashfan
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Now THAT'S an avatar that rocks the Casbah!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:44 | 2824483 Temporalist
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Rahm Emanuel thanks you.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:53 | 2825290 Cathartes Aura
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A gun in hand is better then a cop on the phone. Shocking this completely Democrat run (they don't even have a Republican party in Camden) controlled for years is going the same way or worse then Detroit another Democrat run city just shocking!

if they only had the OTHER team running the show, everything would be so different!

don't forget to vote!

LMAO too.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:58 | 2824277 Zero Debt
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This is why we need a milita.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:08 | 2824327 TheAntiBen
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What they really need to do is issue a new law like in Kennesaw, GA that "...requires residents to have a gun in the house."  Amazing how having a law requiring gun-ownership has reduced crime within this city ->



Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:48 | 2824504 LawsofPhysics
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Without required training it can be a mixed bag.  I like would prefer what several E.Z. countries require; manditory military service and a fully automatic assault rifle in every household. Go ahead, commit a gun-related crime in the Swiss Alps, I dare you.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:20 | 2824386 bonderøven-farm ass
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:23 | 2824935 HungrySeagull
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There are Militas around the USA.

Arkansas for one has one divided into three sections. One concealed carry division, one communications/logistics division and one ... war fighting division. Further divided again into one command zone in Little Rock and 4 divisions around the state.

Subject to the Governor's "Call-up" at any time. 18 to 45 fighting age, both men and women regardless of issues are in it.


Not the nutty kind we all like to see out of places like Waco and others.


And yes I am too old for Militia thank god. I don't think the Gov ever wants to give that call up. Things would have to be truly bad.



As far as Jersey, Detroit and other places...


Just a little bit of smokes, drinks and money gives you security on the street for a time. Hookers armed with 50 dollars are the best to keep the truck from getting painted over, wheels stolen or any other bad thing happening to you. They simply say "He's with me! Leave him alone" is enough.


If not?


Well, there is a truck gun, holster and weapon etc.


Best defense? Never go there. Stay west and live young man.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:58 | 2824278 HoofHearted
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Seems my first priority would be to get the hell out of this place. However far Greyhound would take me, I'd go there.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:12 | 2824343 Rainman
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Most Camdeners have enough bus fare to cross the Delaware into West Philly, known as out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:23 | 2824393 Big Corked Boots
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Lindenwold high-speed line, bitchez.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:40 | 2824464 Divided States ...
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The citizens of Camden should all relocate to D.C., right in front of the White House so they can see the man they voted in from day to night. The gullible black votes.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:58 | 2825303 Cathartes Aura
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can't wait for Mittens to get the throne, and silly excuses to reverse colour. . .

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:25 | 2824945 HungrySeagull
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Those are not the buses they seek.

It's the Casino Buses rolling triple digit 100+ mph hell bent to get your ass to the table or back home again that are the killers.


I have tried to race them in the past with a "Dollar" truck... whew... those damn things are fast. Even with 60 greedy shits on board clamoring "Are we there yet!"

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:58 | 2824281 youngman
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Should remove some folks off the welfare rolls.....self cleansing...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:00 | 2824286 Doode
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So tricky - what is the appropriate mechanism to deal with places like that. Clearly economy is not at fault since the problem persisted for decades under every type of economy. Perhaps reverse immigration (encouraging these folks to seek other states/countries to live in), strong subsidies to Voluntary sterilization (strongly against government enforced ones and possibly reversable if some turn their lives around in the future),  etc. All the talk today about 47 mil on food stamps missed the point that 27 million were on it before the crisis - most of them really should not be having kids and probably should be encouraged to seek life elsewhere.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:11 | 2824347 centerline
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Liquor stores and ammo on every corner.  Sort of like economic cannabalism... or maybe that would be considered economic Darwinism.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:17 | 2824378 docj
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Know what else sells well in places like this? Lottery tickets and cancer-sticks.

Go figure.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:26 | 2825423 youngman
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Looks like a great location for a Whole Foods market....and maybe a Coach store...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:29 | 2824421 graymnzrc
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Camden is tough area. They have a nice open air concert arena but to get there you drive past some homes that are surrounded by razor wire.

Back in the 70's and 80's on the night before Halloween (Devil's Night) they would burn down a bunch of house. Very high ratio of extremely bad people in that town.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:19 | 2824641 bank guy in Brussels
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1962 book 'Negroes with Guns' is an important American text about US blacks arming themselves to defend their homes and lives.

Today, a few American black leaders speak of the similar need for self-empowerment of people in US black neighbourhoods ... encouraging them to own firearms and to deal on a direct community level with the crime in their midst.

The author of 'Negroes with Guns' is a forgotten, fascinating American radical, the dissident Robert F. Williams (1925-1996), who had to depart the US as a political refugee, and even met with Chairman Mao of China.

In a less-fascist America of an earlier era, Williams was eventually allowed to return to the US without being hounded and imprisoned for life or killed by the authorities, as would happen to him today.

Photos in context of documentary on him from America's public television:

'Negroes with Guns: Robert F. Williams on Self-Defence'

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:15 | 2824367 LMAOLORI
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Not really so tricky they can go to other Socialist states like CA or Minnesota and plague them since they like that sort of thing so much. Minnesota already gets bus loads of those people from places like Milwaukee, Detroit, Gary, Chicago which is why many of the people who actually pay taxes either moved out of the inner cities of MN or to other states (W. Wisc if they still were working in the cities,etc.) until they end up collapsing.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:53 | 2824792 WestVillageIdiot
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St. Louis Park (Thomas Friedman's hometown) = poster child for white flight

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:27 | 2824414 RSloane
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Obviously the answer is to keep subsidizing girls having babies, mothers who have to guess who the baby's father is, and babies who are being raised by a mother who could not even take care of a hamster properly. The Medical University of South Carolina was sued by a group of girls  who had received reversible, and informed, tubal ligations after giving birth to their third or fourth child. MUSC had to drop the program of offering free tubal ligations while the mothers were still in hospital after delivering. The courts decided that the mothers could not be approached re a tubal ligation option until after eight months after the baby was delivered. Of course by that time, many of them were pregnant again. Your tax dollars at work.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:35 | 2824446 Dr. Richard Head
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I still like the libertarian idea of darwinian rule and not subsidising the behaviors of others in the first place.  Considering more than half the US population is dependent on others for their daily living, I fully understand why the philosohpy is rejected by so many. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:44 | 2824491 adr
adr's picture

You take away EBT and live within 30 miles of a major city, you better hope you have more than a .22 to defend yourself.

Removing any welfare program will result in the climatic scene from I Am Legend.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:51 | 2824517 Kobe Beef
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Great! Natural selection in action.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:12 | 2824604 10mm
10mm's picture

Inflation,the rip roaring type,will take care of the EBT matter.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:05 | 2826827 mjcOH1
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It may take care of grandma's savings.   But through the majic of the printing press the EBT cards will remain full.   Ripple might be $80 a bottle.   But Uncle Sugar will provide.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:27 | 2824957 HungrySeagull
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Make that 65 miles. That is my standard.


100 when driving a semi back in the day. I ended up with a 24/7 team, always on the move. Stopping only to dispose of waste, laundry and fuel. Everything else? Done.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:41 | 2824471 Monedas
Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:29 | 2824424 neptunium
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I think the best way would be to conduct airburst testing for the new generation of nuclear warheads needed to replace the W-88. 


Either that or sell the city to the Chinese for 50 bucks, and let them run it in the same manner that they do in Africa... They'd sort it out..

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:25 | 2824650 Temporalist
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Sell the city?  Bernanke just bought this city and thousands just like it with his QE3finity.

How does it feel to be owned by a private bank Amerika?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:47 | 2824499 A Nanny Moose
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Let's start by NOT subsidizing unwanted kids, then go from there.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:28 | 2824963 HungrySeagull
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Today's unwanted kids become feral in a generation.


They live harder in 20 years than most of us ever do in a life time.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:53 | 2824508 Kobe Beef
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Reversible sterilization or implant contraceptives in order to receive any public benefits. Make it the law.

Welfare = Tubal ligation or Norplant

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:06 | 2825336 Cathartes Aura
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test for paternity?  then a quick snip to stop the spread?

nah, just enForce pregnancy ala Sanctity of Life rules, because every sperm is sacred once it gets named "zygote" -  then end welfare & let the momma & precious baybee die on the street, like dogs.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:39 | 2825775 New World Chaos
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I like it as long as it stays voluntary.  Make it an equal-opportunity program too.  After a couple generations there would be much less need for cops, prisons, and other expensive services.  Violence would dissipate.  Businesses would return. 

It fits with the elites' plan to get rid of 80-90% of us.  So, why haven't they implemented this already?  It's not like the puppetmasters actually care about political correctness- that's just for useful idiots.  Israel is the most racist state on Earth.  But I digress.  These "useless eaters", as they say, are obviously not completely useless just yet.  What purpose do they serve?  Perhaps this is how the puppetmasters see them:

-They encourage the remaining middle class to support a vigorous police state.

-They encourage the middle class to support the system in general, lest all hell break loose.

-It will appear that they need a big-government kleptocratic babysitter.

-They vote for Marxists.

-Easily misdirected anger.  When all else fails, the puppetmasters can start a race war.  Divide and conquer.

-They help maintain the illusion of separateness.

-They will keep the patriots pinned down while the elites escape with the loot.

-Cheap, expendable brownshirts to use against the evil hoarders.

-More profits for the prison industrial complex and the Cocaine Import Agency.

-General destruction of America.  America has foiled the puppetmasters' evil plans multiple times (most recently by creating the Internet).  This is revenge.

-The "shining city on a hill" is an existential threat even though it never really existed.  Plundering America is not enough.  The whole IDEA of America must be thoroughly destroyed.

-Alturism, intelligence, and responsibility are dangerous traits which must be selectively bred out of the population.  Indolence and sociopathy should be given a Darwinian advantage.

-More blood, misery and trauma for Lucifer. 

-In Europe's case, a backlash against Muslim dole babies will be used to start WWIII for Lucifer.  Google Albert Pike.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:59 | 2824287 Capitalist
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:10 | 2824338 marcusfenix
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either way that's exactly what we are going to get. people need to get over this delusion the GOVERNMENT CAN FIX THIS, they can't, that should be painfully obvious by now.

and it especially doesn't make a damn bit of difference who reads from the teleprompter...

just ask the people who live in places like this.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:29 | 2824966 HungrySeagull
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4 more years...

At least maybe everything has fallen down to the street and it will take a few weeks work with a bunch of D9's to clear it out.


Kinda hard to live in a city sized dirt lot.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:13 | 2824354 Grinder74
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Why hasn't the Great and Powerful Oz of D.C. saved these poor brothers and sisters of color, like he did his greatly esteemed brother in Kenya?  Oh wait...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:38 | 2824457 saints51
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Thats not how dis bitch works o b k b

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:13 | 2824356 toady
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:00 | 2824289 roadhazard
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This is when they call in the National Guard.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:13 | 2824357 centerline
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This is what the FEMA camps are really for.  The average middle class person just wants to feed his family.  Wipe out - Argentina style.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:02 | 2824290 “Rebellion to t...
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Just have Barack send some weaponized drones and his kill list.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:07 | 2824294 francis_sawyer
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Snake Plissken doesn't give a fuck about your war... (or your President)...


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:15 | 2824369 CrimsonAvenger
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Snake Plissken? I thought he was dead.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:58 | 2824553 ParkAveFlasher
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Think again.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:07 | 2824589 vato poco
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The Plisskin movie had it right. At this point, if somebody's still in Camden, it's because they *want to* be there. As noted earlier, Greyhound fares are damn cheap. So build a wall around the entire shithole, give 'em all the AK's & ammo & liquor they want, and let nature take its course. The winner gets to be King.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:30 | 2824970 HungrySeagull
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Warsaw Ghetto?


No thanks.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:03 | 2824297 Whoa Dammit
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Yeah, but they will keep all of the useless administrative employees, the mayoral entourage, and the Escalades.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:03 | 2824298 Sudden Debt
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We don't need the cops!



Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:07 | 2824320 TheAlchemist
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Save the Ta Ta's!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:09 | 2824593 nokomarie
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I pity da foo!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:04 | 2824300 EscapeKey
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ohnoes who will now buy the new iphone?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:08 | 2824324 Sudden Debt
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They'll aways have wellfare to pay for those!

The iEconomy is still safe!


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:04 | 2824301 williambanzai7
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:05 | 2824303 BattlegroundEur...
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Lucky you Amerikans have a right to bear arms.



But for how long is anybodys guess ;)

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