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Now Taiwan Is Also Claiming The Senkaku Islands: 70 Fishing Boats Set Sail To Stake Claim

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If you thought it was complicated when "only" China and Japan were disputing the recent escalation in property rights over who owns those three particular rock in the East China Sea, to be henceforth called the Senkaku Islands for simplicity's sake because things are about to get far more confusing, here comes Taiwan, aka the Republic of China, not to be confused with the People's Republic of China for the simple reason that the latter officially asserts itself to be the sole legal representation of China and actively claims Taiwan to be under its sovereignty, denying the status and existence of ROC as a sovereign state (yet one which benefits from US backing), to also stake its claim over the disputed Senkaku Islands. It has done so in a very confusing manner: by replicating what it thinks China did some days ago when an "armada" of 1000 fishing boats set sail in an unknown direction and which the trigger happy media immediately assumed was in direction Senkaku. It subsequently turned out that this was not the case and as we reported, "China's fishing season stops every year in June-September in the East China Sea, where the islands are located. This year, the ban was lifted on Sunday." In short the (PR)China fishing boat amrada was not headed toward the Senkakus. Taiwan however did not get the memo, and as NKH reports, "several dozen Taiwanese fishing boats have set sail for the disputed Senkaku islands in the East China Sea, to claim access to their fishing grounds."

So to summarize: a country which (PR)China claims does not exist and is under its own sovereign control, has replicated what it thought was (PR)China's strategic move to reclaim the Senkaku Islands (which was nothing of the sort), and is sending its own fishing boat armada to reclaim islands whose ownership has sent Japan and (PR)China on the verge of more than mere diplomatic warfare. The only thing that could make this any more confusing is if someone discovered title deeds ceding ownership of the Senkakus to Japan, the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China at the same time, and signed by Linda Green.

From NHK:

More than 70 boats from a fishing cooperative in northeastern Taiwan set out Monday afternoon, hoisting banners claiming that the islands belong to Taiwan, and that Taiwan's sovereignty and fishing rights must be protected.

 

The cooperative is protesting Japan's purchase of 3 of the islands in the Senkaku chain from a private owner earlier this month. The cooperative says the waters surrounding the islands have long been a major Taiwanese fishing ground.

 

The cooperative says the boats will be joined by vessels from other cooperatives along the way to the islands.

 

The fleet plans to arrive at a point about 40 kilometers southwest of the islands by early Tuesday morning.

 

The boats are to circle near the islands after forming into groups of 5, with the aim of entering Japanese territorial waters.

 

More than 10 Taiwanese Coast Guard vessels will be on hand to monitor the fishing fleet's activities.

So who's next in order of territorial claims - Argentina?

In short- utter confusion which can only mean one thing - sit beck and enjoy. It's popcorn time.

 

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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:36 | 2826276 stopcpdotcom
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Let the conspiracy theories begin.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:46 | 2826297 Precious
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Here's the real story.   The Chinese government paid the Chinese fishermen to go to Senkaku Islands.  Unfortunately for the government, they paid in advance. The Chinese fishermen motored out of the harbor, turned around, and motored right back in. That's their idea of patriotism.  It shows how much the Chinese people respect their government.  

 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:03 | 2826367 Essential Nexus
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I'd motor right out of there and not come back.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:10 | 2826387 nmewn
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The FIRST rule of protecting MY favorite fishing spot is...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:20 | 2826411 White.Star.Line
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Don't worry about that pesky first rule.....

Cmon, out with it.......

Give me coordinates!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:29 | 2826446 Monedas
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He only knows where there are some good lawns to mow !

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:36 | 2826473 nmewn
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;-)

You have a problem with good trim? Don't stand too close, you'll get cut Mo.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:11 | 2826560 Stackers
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Just wait till Duck Dogers and the Little Martian start fighting over them.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:39 | 2826905 old naughty
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One majong table has four players.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:30 | 2826448 nmewn
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Hell, I thought it was common knowledge now...lol...all part of my intricate ruse to get Taiwan, Japan and China away from my honey hole ;-)

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:34 | 2826890 A Nanny Moose
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You don't want all those other people fishing the scene of your maritime misfortune.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:19 | 2826407 dont say a word
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They should motor on out to Australia with the rest of the boat people.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 08:59 | 2827450 Peter Pan
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With the mining boom all over I guess Australia needs some immigrants to help fill in all the holes they dug up for export to China.

Seriously though, the Senkaku Islands will end up being the cemetery of some very big egos if things get out of hand.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:12 | 2826564 oa92000
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 Anti-Japan Protests In China. How does this look??

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 02:57 | 2827065 Ar-Pharazôn
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too funny they are smashing down a rolex store.....

they know really good what they are doing................. /sarc

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:56 | 2826469 Mercury
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It has done so in a very confusing manner: by replicating what it thinks China did some days ago when an "armada" of 1000 fishing boats set sail in an unknown direction and which the trigger happy media immediately assumed was in direction Senkaku. It subsequently turned out that this was not the case and as we reported,...


I've been telling y'all it's just a big Fuckawi race.

Sailing around in circles "discovering" non-existant islands?...please.
Has Stratfor alerted you yet that there is alcohol is involved here too?

Ted Kennedy's gone now so,  just like when the America's Cup left Newport, this thing is kind of an international trophy at this point.
This would be the Pacific regionals if I'm not mistaken.

Don't rule out the Japs, those boys can drink AND sail when they want to...

 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:54 | 2826520 LawsofPhysics
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Say it with me; Party at Senkaku!!!!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:01 | 2826536 nmewn
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Toga Toga Toga!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:57 | 2826668 Simon Endean
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@LawsofPhysics: "Say it with me; Party at Senkaku!!!!"

 

Party at Senkaku

Every movie starring you

And the world will turn to flowing

Pink vapor stew.

Kenji, go get your gun

For the Chi-coms are in our fishing grounds today

Hong-Li, go fly your MiG

For the Tojoist war-criminals have come to play

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:58 | 2826669 Simon Endean
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Drat! Double post

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:59 | 2826281 lolmao500
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And the US delists MEK from the terror organisations lists... so it won't be long before MEK bombs stuff and kills people in Iran.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/22/barack-obama-terrorism

Terror delisting the MEK is a cynical sham
The dissident group's lavish lobbying has paid off: hoping to look tough on Iran, the Obama administration has enlisted the MEK in a proxy war

And Korea too is on Japan's case.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2012/09/25/0200000000AEN20120925000400315.HTML

Korea ready to raise history issue at U.N. assembly: minister
South Korean Foreign Minister Kim Sung-hwan on Monday stressed the importance of promoting "correct history" at the United Nations.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/09/24/china-japan-drones.html

China to use drones on islands in dispute with Japan

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/hardware/iPhone-manufacture...

iPhone manufacturer closes plant in China after 2,000 workers clash

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044435880457801587332967088...

Playing Chicken in the East China Sea

But the stakes to Japan's security are indisputably high. If it fails to protect its administrative control over the Senkakus, then it will have put at risk all its disputed island territories, not merely in the East China Sea, but also those in the Sea of Japan and the northern Pacific. Further, a surrender would mark the ascension of China over Japan as the region's major power and also encourage more Chinese pressure on Japan's water space.

What if Tokyo decides tougher measures are needed against Chinese ships? That could bring into play both countries' navies, which so far have not been deployed in this crisis. This is a numbers game Japan can't win, since its roughly 50 frigates and destroyers would face nearly 200 PLA Navy destroyers, frigates and guided missile boats, not to mention 65 submarines and hundreds of fighter and attack aircraft. Japan may have a qualitative edge, but that would be worn down by China's ability to flood a combat zone with ships, subs and planes. Tokyo would be forced to turn to the United States for support under the mutual security treaty.

That would cause a great-power crisis unseen since the days of World War II, with untold economic fallout, not to mention the possibility of ever-widening military operations. Washington will have to decide how to deal with its treaty ally. Leaving Japan to face China alone would destroy America's global alliance system, while allowing China to redraw boundaries in Asia would simply hasten the decline of American influence.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2012-09-23/1751701894.html

China's first aircraft carrier delivered to the Navy TODAY

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120922/176152844.html

Kyrgyz Air Base May Soon Host Russian Strategic Bombers (right next to China)
Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:17 | 2826405 FreedomGuy
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Japan is a regional power? Economic power, perhaps but not a military one. They and everyone else has depended on the U.S. fleet for power.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:27 | 2826428 lolmao500
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Their fleet is pretty good training and quality wise. Much better than the Chinese one. Japan would probably be able to hold their own against China if they used every island as a fortress... and you know how well they did that during WW2.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000087239639044435880457801587332967088...

Meanwhile, Japanese exporters report that China is delaying the acceptance of Japanese goods at customs ports around the country, and rumors are beginning to circulate that Beijing will once again squeeze the supply of rare earths to Japan, which are vital for industrial production.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:17 | 2826576 HungryPorkChop
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The trade wars have already begun?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 03:33 | 2827087 Vlad Tepid
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You don't follow strategic developments very closely do you?  The Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force has one of the highest tech navies in Asia, second only to the US ans Singapore and they are heavily drilled.  The fleet is blue water capable and self-supporting with underway replenishment vessels of all sorts and helicopter carriers.  Their diesel electric submarines are the quietest around.  Japan is more than a regional power.  It is the strategic counterbalance to Russian and Chinese power projection.  US support is just icing.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:38 | 2826282 TheFantasticMonkey
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Whatever fish are left don't stand a chance. Kudos, though. I'd totally go to war with China and Japan using only fishing boats. Brilliant.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:49 | 2826328 Schmuck Raker
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The "Iranian Gambit", eh?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:10 | 2826558 cowdiddly
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3 Nations ready to fight over 3 eyed radioactive tuna. A hungry world indeed.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 07:49 | 2827261 ZeroAvatar
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Only the 3 eye-sockets remain. The eyes themselves are missing from exposure to COREXIT.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:39 | 2826291 zorba THE GREEK
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I have recently purchased the Senkaku Islands and I have a receipt for them.

So everybody can go home now. I also have purchased (from the same source)

the Moon and Hope Diamond. Anyone interested in buying any of these assets

from me, please contact me at Dumbsmuck.com.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:41 | 2826302 TheFantasticMonkey
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Not so fast. I have a fishing boat.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:58 | 2826345 JuliaS
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I've recently purchased Dumbsmuck.com

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:31 | 2826454 White.Star.Line
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I have the same receipt!

Have we been re-hypothecated???

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:45 | 2826778 Go Tribe
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Any homes left on the back nine?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:44 | 2826911 A Nanny Moose
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You didn't buy that. Somebody helped you along the way.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:40 | 2826298 Schmuck Raker
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Fuck Yeah! Way to go Taiwan - I was starting to lose interest.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:44 | 2826307 centerline
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+1.  Taiwan for the save.  Who's next to the party?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:41 | 2826299 Deathrips
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Resource stripping..soon this will be a pile of rocks with no resources and they can all go home. bummer. Silver...bitchez?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:44 | 2826306 TheFantasticMonkey
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I wonder if we can lay claim to Iran using only fishing boats? Would be way cheaper.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:46 | 2826313 MsCreant
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The islands need to declare themselves soverign and tell everyone to FUCK OFF!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:48 | 2826320 TheFantasticMonkey
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If only rocks could talk

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:59 | 2826356 Schmuck Raker
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Mine does all my thinking for me.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:06 | 2826376 CPL
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The resident Senkaku bird population was appauled by the whole international uproar regarding China and Japan.  With Taiwan launching a fishing flotila the question was asked of a local resident.  A local resident responded with this statement.

"RAaaaaWWWkkkkKK." to which the resident shit on the rocks, launched itself, targetted and consumed a halibut.

 

This is proof alone that the UN should provide a forum for the political strain to settle in a boardroom.  While further analysis of the information provided by a third generation BreX sister exploration company based out of Borneo is validated to how much invisible oil everyone could divide amongst themselves.  The Pelican could not be reached for further comment.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:16 | 2826398 nmewn
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lol...yes, clearly another strongly worded statement is in order here.

Oooo Ooooo Oooooo Ahhh Caw Caaaw.

Avian diplomacy bitchez ;-)

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:45 | 2826648 MsCreant
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Monty Python funny!!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:08 | 2826833 optimator
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Mrs. Howell wants to civilize the island with an orchestra. But the sounds attract the wrong kind of audience.

 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:39 | 2826904 A Nanny Moose
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Weapons of Mass Deception would surely be discovered shortly thereafter...along with a pristine passport belonging to an alleged dissident of some sort.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:48 | 2826322 nasa
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... --- ...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:49 | 2826324 The Gooch
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See- "You might be a conspiracy theorist if"...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:49 | 2826326 moskov
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Japan is fucked.
They have disputed islands with South Korea, Russia, Taiwan, China at the same time. Most of these islands Japanese gov claimed were looted by the Imperial Army of Japan during WW2 but they have never been handed back to those victim countries because US was keeping that disgusting Royal Family alive and leave those War criminals walked free after the trial of Tokyo. Now the US is forming allience with its enemy of WW2 just like they did with Nazi Germany and Warmongering Israel...there is no end to these evil bastards from Washington and Pentagon who prefer breeding extremists all around the world in order to divide and conquer.

Karma is bitch for this sort of American dream, and QE3 will be that nail to the coffin for US dollar and its so called democratic and peaceful paradise.

God punish America.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:57 | 2826343 Schmuck Raker
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"God punish America." ??

Calm down moskov.... no need to bring Harvey The Rabbit into this.

Besides, as you point out - "They have disputed islands with South Korea, Russia, Taiwan, China at the same time." - And they have for 50 years!

Doesn't mean it will all come to a head now.

This is just a bunch of Sabre Rattring. Rearry.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:41 | 2826485 CPL
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It only means as much as it does while the oil currently flows, not future.

 

I wonder which one of them wants to tap for oil and destroy one of their large fishing grounds first?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:56 | 2826349 Oldballplayer
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Do you think for a second the US Military is going to go to war with China over this crap?  My guess is someone in Washington is on the phone with Tokyo asking them what part of nuked back to stoneage did they forget?

Fishing boats is one thing.  But if this escalates to tug boats we are all fucked.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:09 | 2826383 moskov
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the problem is Japan itself has more than 50+ nuclear plants on that tiny island, it has almost no buffer zone for nuclear shock wave or mountain range for people to hide under or even flee throgh its land boarders to other countries. If Japan decided to abandon its socalled Peace Constitution and reform its Army. It means a red alert to every neighbour country to Japan would massively hike up military Defense and turn missle heads to Japan automatically. Especially for China and Russia. If the US allows Japan to has its own army, just wait for the revenge by the Japs for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or it's the time for China and Russia finally put an end to this Fukushima island turning right wings all the time because the japs want to settle on the mainland in order to escape from earthquakes and tsunamis.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:10 | 2826555 Mine Is Bigger
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Only a small number of backward people still live in this day and age with the stupid idea of dishing out revenge for something that happened generations ago.  While the Japanese may have many flaws, I don't htink being stupid enough to be consumed with vengence is one of them.  Have a great time spewing your nonsense though!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 03:07 | 2827071 Ar-Pharazôn
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the planet where do you live has a name?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:21 | 2826390 buzzsaw99
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God punish America.

...this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay? [/al czervik]

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:24 | 2826422 FreedomGuy
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The USA former alliances with Nazi Germany? How did that work out for the ally? "Warmongering Israel"? How many countries has Israel conquered? Round off to the nearest whole number. What planet did you say you were from?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:28 | 2826439 buzzsaw99
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Hitler's worst sin was that he gave rise to the fascist state of Israel. They have conquered the entire middle east, the usa, and most every other country that gets in their way.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 01:02 | 2837726 Schmuck Raker
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FFS, Buzz, millions of corpses during WWII is just minor infraction?

Pull yer head out, dude.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:31 | 2826457 lolmao500
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The USA SHOULD have formed an alliance with Nazi Germany and steamrolled the Soviet Union... and when it doesn't advance, just drop a nuke on Moscow. Problem solved.

Then the cold war would have never happened.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:39 | 2826478 The Shootist
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Are you saying we should have re-armed the Krauts to beat back the god damned Bolsheviks?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:50 | 2826516 lolmao500
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Ya. Patton FTW.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:18 | 2826854 optimator
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Churchill was quoted as saying to Marshal Montgomery, "make sure those surrendering Germans stack their rifles carefully, we may have to hand them out again".

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:51 | 2826794 optimator
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If the U.S. stayed out the Russians and the Germans would still be wearing each other down, and the Japanese and the Chinese too.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:54 | 2826342 The Shootist
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Eggcelent.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:02 | 2826363 Essential Nexus
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This is all just an incompetently played game.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:05 | 2826375 DanDaley
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It's just noise. -B.H.O.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:23 | 2826417 nmewn
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"Ä solid B+."

"Just a few bumps along the road toward democracy."..."Harry, I have a gift."...lol.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:06 | 2826377 Schmuck Raker
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I think I have a reasonable solution:

  1. China gets the mineral resources/seabed and under
  2. Taiwan has dibs on the fish
  3. And Japan can have all the dry land

[Jimmy Carter eat your heart out.]

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:07 | 2826380 Whoa Dammit
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There is a very wicked full moon on 9/29. Anything could happen between now & then...

"Even the most boring Full Moon is interesting; now we have one happening early in the cardinal signs. You don’t even need a big aspect in the background to get some global-scale event; the Full Moon alone can do it. But this one is packed with solid rocket boosters."

http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/daily-astrology/monday-astrology-the-week-out-full-moon/#more-61712

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:10 | 2826840 Cathartes Aura
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whooooaaa, dammit, there's another person paying attention to this incoming full moon!

friday, going into saturday. . . and if you're so inclined to watch for Yom Kippur, it's wednesday. . .

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:12 | 2826393 jonjon831983
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Despite Taiwan's warmed relations with China, in Taiwaneses' minds I think they still believe themselves to be a separate entity.

Sure, Taiwan probably wants the islands too, but this is the US encirclement in action.

 

Note that USS Stennis is in the 7th fleet area as well. So 2 carriers there.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:28 | 2826444 FreedomGuy
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I have lots of Taiwanese friends. They are clear they lost the war with the commies but they always consider themselves the true free Chinese. They don't seem to hold a lot of grudges as they have helped bulid many many businesses in China. China needed them for language, cultural bridges, technical expertise and business expertise as they opened to the West.

They have lived under the constant threat of invasion but the USA has always been their translucent backer. Many of them are pretty fiesty. It is fun to see this development.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:18 | 2826394 dwdollar
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What is China waiting for? If they land troops on those islands who's going to challenge them? Japan isn't going to risk confrontation and the US is in no position to make demands. If China can't figure this out, they have little hope of becoming a world power.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:47 | 2826503 owensdrillin
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As long as they don't put on so many troops that the island tips over.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:58 | 2826649 DR
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This isn't just a test for ownership of the Senkaku Islands, it is a test of how far China can challenge US hegemony in East Asia without repercussions.

 

State Department Spokesperson Victoria Nuland noted that even though the U.S. takes no position or sides in the dispute, the U.S. would intervene if a military conflict erupts between Japan and China.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 03:11 | 2827074 Ar-Pharazôn
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because there is a sea between china and the islands.... which make china transport ship very vulnerable.

if china try to land expect that those boats to sink

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:18 | 2826395 White.Star.Line
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Those that view the earth as a gift find endless abundance.
Those that view the earth as a commodity choke and die from the increasing scarcity.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:04 | 2826543 atomicwasted
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Dude, I think you found the wrong website.  Echkart Tolle is over here.  http://www.eckharttolle.com/

You're welcome.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 08:01 | 2827282 ZeroAvatar
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Ahhh, yes....Meister Tolle........scam artist extraordinaire!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:16 | 2826401 Bangin7GramRocks
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This is all soooooooo gay!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:17 | 2826404 Jack Burton
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These Islands are not important, but they are a proxy for the many other Islands in that region that are all in dispute and all very important for fishing and energy rights inside the territorial waters. Japan and China will not back down because if they do that sets a precident for the other much more important island disputes in the area. Remember it isn't these rocks that matter, they are a proxy. No side wants to start the game with a loss that will encourage others to try to claim very important islands.

The USA must be pressing both sides to back away and let these rocks remain unclaimed. The US has a war with Iran to carry on soon, they can't be bothered backing Japan against a determined and fast growing China.

The USA taking a proven terrorist ring under it's wing as a client is a sign that this group is being funded, armed and trained by the US and will begin operations inside Iran soon. Remember, the only true terrorists are those opposing US interests, the others are freedom fighters. This should be clear to even the meanest intelligence, no?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:23 | 2826418 chump666
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Offshore natural gas that runs down from the Senkaku islands to the disputed Islands off the coast of Philippines, also Vietnam has disputed waters near the Chinese waters - in which India wants part.

So basically these are geopolitical tensions based solely on energy, natural gas.  The blame?  Well they are all a-holes, the lot of them.  But the two rogue and out of control central banks ECB and Fed are exasperating the tensions by causing the energy prices to rise, that, or the central banks are front running war:  Israel/Iran blows up after Obama election/s. Either way, they are making it worst.  All and all, everything will become chaotic, messy and FUBAR.

But that is the cycles of life.

 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:40 | 2826479 DanDaley
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...these are geopolitical tensions based solely on energy, natural gas.

 

Here I thought it was just a bunch of Asians doing a face-saving routine.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:09 | 2826695 chump666
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Well they are doing what we will be doing in 3mths or less with Iran, race to war...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:26 | 2826424 blindman
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you/they didn't create that island or fishing resource.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:27 | 2826429 nick howdy
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I claim these islands in the name of The Nick Howdy Goverment....WTF.. everyone is doing it...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:27 | 2826430 nick howdy
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I claim these islands in the name of The Nick Howdy Goverment....WTF.. everyone is doing it...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:27 | 2826431 nick howdy
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I claim these islands in the name of The Nick Howdy Goverment....WTF.. everyone is doing it...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:28 | 2826437 nick howdy
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I claim these islands in the name of The Nick Howdy Goverment....WTF.. everyone is doing it...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:28 | 2826442 nick howdy
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I claim these islands in the name of The Nick Howdy Goverment....WTF.. everyone is doing it...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:30 | 2826449 nick howdy
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Holy Shit..This Apple product sucks..

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:33 | 2826462 Monedas
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Don't post while jacking off !

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:39 | 2826476 nmewn
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lol

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:52 | 2826800 chump666
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haha

that was funny.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:53 | 2826804 chump666
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haha

that was funny.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:10 | 2826838 Hulk
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That was quick...

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 08:38 | 2827376 nick howdy
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Ok..You got me...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:48 | 2826508 Skateboarder
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I would give you an upvote for admitting your fault, but you used an Apple product. But you admitted your faults and thus didn't get a downvote. A million upvotes for tossing your iTelescreen off a bridge.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:19 | 2826855 Cathartes Aura
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"Holy Shit..This Apple product sucks.."

nice save nick.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 08:46 | 2827393 nick howdy
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Thanks, and I'm not just making excuses, I really think the IPad is a POS...Intolerably limited without jailbreaking. After jailbrealing...Painfully limited.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:29 | 2826443 q99x2
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The Chinese found oil and unless thems fishin boats carrying bio the sharks is about to be made some very happy campers.

Not only that but why would China wanna give into the tranny of the NWO. They don't have to because at this point no one needs another fucking iPhone.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:31 | 2826460 Monedas
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BO will back the Chinese like he did the Argentinos !    www.obamasrealfather.com

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:39 | 2826477 Monedas
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This dispute should go to arbitration .... and be decided by Google maps .... as the final authority !    

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:44 | 2826487 lolmao500
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BTW, the Taiwanese boats have already made it. There's about 40-50 already there.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2012/09/184205.html

40-50 Taiwanese boats sailing in contiguous zone around Senkakus

 media quote JCG confirming ships from Taiwan have entered Japanese waters near disputed uninhabited islands.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:45 | 2826500 saints51
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I can see the Taiwanese holding each others hands on the island singing:

"chinese, japanese,dirty knees, look at these"

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:53 | 2826506 oa92000
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Diaoyutai :

1500 miles from Tokyo

150 miles from Taipei

?? miles from Shanghai??

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:00 | 2826535 lolmao500
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Beijing you mean?

 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:49 | 2826511 oa92000
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did i get that video up here .. try again.

Japanese kill 23 000 dolphins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H2dnz6maU8&feature=fvst

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 20:59 | 2826532 Heyoka Bianco
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Yeah, but how do all the fish self-identify? Do they see themselves as Japanes, ChiCom, or Taiwanese? Murica needs to get in there and fight for piscine self-determination!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:05 | 2826539 lolmao500
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Kyodo: "Dozens of Taiwan vessels enter Japan's territorial waters near Senkakus"

Taiwan ain't run by wimps like China is apparently.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2012/09/25/2003543597

If officers on Japanese maritime defense vessels — which usually intercept Taiwanese fishing boats operating in the area — try to board the Taiwanese fishing boats, special service agents traveling on the coast guard vessels will “board our fishing boats to stop” the Japanese from boarding the Taiwanese ships, Coast Guard Administration (CGA) Minister Wang Jinn-wang (???) said.

If the Japanese ships spray water at the Taiwanese fishing boats, Wang said, “we will spray water back at them.”

He added that he would not rule out the use of arms if “the other side resorts to it first.”

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:41 | 2826639 prole
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I got the popcorn and the big screen, but so far no action in this "action movie?"

/Sike I don't have cable come on now sheeples

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:25 | 2826867 Cathartes Aura
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"If the Japanese ships spray water at the Taiwanese fishing boats, Wang said, “we will spray water back at them.”

well hell, if all they're up to is having fun with some super-soakers, then who are we to deny them?

boys just wanna have fun.

http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/en_US/supersoaker.cfm

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:03 | 2826542 oa92000
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http://imgur.com/a/Y7oIp  Anti-Japan Protests In China

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:09 | 2826556 10mm
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I say let the EGG ROLLS beat each other.Result,No#10 Egg Fu Young".

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:44 | 2826644 robertocarlos
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My theory is that there are no more fishies. At least not enough fish.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:51 | 2826657 lolmao500
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JCG: Ships from #Taiwan appear headed for main disputed island held by #Japan

Here we go.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:56 | 2826666 Yen Cross
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Isn't it"SUPER" Typhoon Season in the South China Sea?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:00 | 2826676 americanspirit
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Whatever all this is, it clearly isn't about these bits of uninhabitable rock jutting up in the middle of an undistinguished bit of ocean. They are good for nothing - not habitation, not military bases, nothing. So it has to be about something else. What could that be? My guess is that once some nation gets them declared part of that nation's 'territory' then the surrounding 200 miles becomes part of that nation's territory as well. It's a footprint game IMO.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:11 | 2826697 web bot
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OIL OIL LNG LNG OIL OIL... you get the picture...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:10 | 2826684 web bot
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This is turning into a circus show... with real lions that have the door to their cage wide open.

If I were Taiwan, I'd be careful. The 1994 US Taiwan Relations Act may be put to the test... and I doubt if the US would be prepared to jump in to defend Taiwan over this.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:13 | 2826707 robertocarlos
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The USA will look pretty stupid if Taiwan sides with China.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 04:24 | 2827117 Sandmann
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Taiwan is a PRC puppet and depends on its factories in the PRC. The USA should let Taiwan hang and tell its business to relocate to Texas if it wants a future

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:26 | 2826735 EvlTheCat
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Cruster Fruck!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:48 | 2826784 hero HNL
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I live in Kobe & saw a helicopter carrier leaving port (took pic from my balconey). Very unusual to see one in the Inland Sea. They have no business in this part of the country.

 

I wonder where it is going....

 

 

hero

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:52 | 2826801 Stuck on Zero
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This whole thing could be turned in to a big profit for CHina, Japan. and Taiwan.  Cover the island with television cameras.  Next, agree to each send a team of five commandos to the island.  The survivors get the islands.  Call it "Tae Kwon Do meets Samarai meets Kung Fu Masters".  This could beat out any reality TV.  Even the losers would get billions.

 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:01 | 2826818 lolmao500
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Would be great. But really how long would it take for it to be over... a few hours?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:55 | 2826920 George Washington
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Nice tie in to Linda Green!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 04:54 | 2827137 StychoKiller
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Linda Green:  Driven to Excel!  :>D

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 00:23 | 2826962 Alpacanio
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Hay, is that the island that Godzilla lives?

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 01:34 | 2827015 reader2010
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Taiwan is stupid here. Just read China has about 1,500 missiles locked on some Taiwanese targets as we speak, and they add more than 600 more each additional year.

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 23:29 | 2906021 monad
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Its a scam to get more money from 'interested' parties. Playing ends against the middle for profit, just like Israel. Like the money isn't burning holes in Obama's pockets already.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 04:21 | 2827114 The Reich
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Add me for Claiming The Senkaku Islands, too!

 

The Reich

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 04:53 | 2827136 StychoKiller
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"No, I am Spartacus!" translated into Chinese:  "No, We own those islands!"

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 11:14 | 2827951 GoldbugVariation
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Seems wrong to call these islands "Senkaku", when the Chinese name is Diaoyu, that is not neutral reporting.

I've had a look at the international law (the treaties helpfully available on the Japan government's constitution page) and it does appear that the Japanese government handed them back to Japan as part of the Treaty of Surrender at the end of WWII - http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c05.html -  "We hereby undertake for the Emperor, the Japanese Government and their successors to carry out the provisions of the Potsdam Declaration in good faith".  The 'Potsdam Declaration', paragraph 8 - http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/etc/c06.html - limited Japanese sovereignty to the main islands "and such minor islands as we determine" ("we" being the USA, the UK and China) and said "The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out".  The Cairo Declaration - http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/shiryo/01/002_46/002_46tx.html - said "all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and The Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China".  The Diaoyu/Senkaku islands were included as part of "Formosa" (Taiwan) when Japan took control of several Chinese territories in a contentious 1895 treaty.  The Cairo Declaration, Potsdam Declaration and 1945 Treaty of Surrender, perfectly obviously, reversed that.

 

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 13:23 | 2828560 akak
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So in actually, these islands properly belong to Taiwan and not the mainland Chinese Communist regime, right?

One look at a map makes that interpretation the only logical one.

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 13:18 | 2828517 tony wilson
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taiwan and japan do not fart without cia,pentagon guidance.

better ramp up dem dollar printing press machines as scotty would say day canna take der printin pressure captin.

syria to iran to squeeze putin.

dumb islands 2 fold japan cover story to hide fuckishitishima kill off and squeeze china.

some parts of chinese government have already been infiltrated by the rothschild  population reduction cartel

let's see what kicks off in africa next

Fri, 10/19/2012 - 13:24 | 2904721 monad
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Long drones. Settle this one with robots.

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