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Apple Announces First Weekend iPhone 5 Sales Of 5 Million, Half Off Highest Estimate

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There was much riding on the Apple update for the first weekend sales from the new iPhone 5 and here they are.


This number would be great if only it wasn't 50% off the highest whisper estimate of up to 10 million sales in the weekend. It is also the reason why the stock is now sliding down well over 2%, threatening to light the AAPL hedge fund hotel on fire.



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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:38 | 2823804 vinayjha
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Too much hype by comscore over the weekend that it has beaten all the record.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:39 | 2823805 GetZeeGold
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Blue light pushing or shoving.


This is Kmart......there will be order.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:55 | 2823862 LongSoupLine
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Good thing demand is only half with Foxconn burning to the ground...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:00 | 2823867 GetZeeGold
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When did that happen?


The problem with you is you can't seem to focus......the subject here is AAPL If you want to talk about Fox....wait for Tyler to post it.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:01 | 2823883 LongSoupLine
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well, I meant the riots.  Perhaps I embellished a bit for dramatic effect...blushing

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:02 | 2823891 GetZeeGold
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Sorry Amigo.......OWS is dead.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:08 | 2823912 LongSoupLine
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ummm, I'm a bit confused by your responses regarding "Fox" and "OWS" do know what I'm referring to...right?  "Foxconn"

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:15 | 2823929 GetZeeGold
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Yeah......I shifted it.


I'll wait a while.....and let you catch up.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:19 | 2823942 LongSoupLine
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That may take a's Monday, I'm still drunk, and only have had 1 cup of coffee.

fyi, based on the junks I see on your responses, everyone else hasn't caught up either

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:46 | 2824022 GetZeeGold
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That may take a's Monday, I'm still drunk, and only have had 1 cup of coffee.


Sorry.....I wasn't aware.


fyi, based on the junks


I always wear full body armour on Mondays.......didn't notice.



Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:01 | 2824075 ParkAveFlasher
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I've been steadily green arrowing GZG. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:11 | 2824116 kridkrid
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He's funny. Constant sarcasm isn't everyone's cup of tea. Works for me.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:18 | 2823939 GetZeeGold
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Then you're in full tilt retard.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:41 | 2824226 monkeyboy
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So APPL's not going to a TRILLION???

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:39 | 2823806 SheepRevolution
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:41 | 2823811 Stoploss
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I saw the new Galaxy S3 commercial last night.

AAPL gots trouble..

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:43 | 2823818 GetZeeGold
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I saw it and I bought it.........ROCKS!!!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:57 | 2824049 TWSceptic
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It's still a cheap plastic South Korean copycat without style.


I got the 5, it's simply the best smartphone ever. Haters gonna hate.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:16 | 2824129 ParkAveFlasher
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I totally don't hate you, I just think you're a shmuck.  Like a nerd just, not actually intelligent.

You care about a phone that tells you when, where, and how to shit. 

I get the free phone with the plan and spend the $400 on pussy. 

edit: I get the free phone with the plan and spend the $400 on pussy or .9999 silver.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 18:41 | 2826067 AldousHuxley
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apple "invented" smartphones like columbus "discovered" America with "Indians".


the chipset, LCD panel, etc....all created by Asian R&D centers


apple just puts shit together in a nice box and had steve jobs douche bag tell fanboys that they are gods.


pretty soon, when the Asians do their own global marketing and sales (not that hard compared to R&D engineering)....then Apple will proably just run over to government for bailout or sales just like most of Fortune 500.


even fucking drone tech was hacked by shithole Iran. Country lagging in technology soon becomes just another museum tourist destination for richer citizens.


value chain:

Raw commodity export --> cheap labor --> skilled manufacturing --> R&D OEM --> Global marketing and sales channel --> Global brand --> Tourist Destination --> Raw commodity export





Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:58 | 2824548 Colonel Klink
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Just remove the C from your user name and I think you pretty much nailed it.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:47 | 2823829 spastic_colon
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time to change all of the economic reports to include Samsung [sarc sorta]

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:48 | 2823835 GetZeeGold
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Everything I own is made by Samsung.......maybe I should buy it.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 18:44 | 2826080 AldousHuxley
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In Korea, you don't own Samsung, Samsung owns you.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:53 | 2823841 EscapeKey
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Well, personally I'm waiting for availability of the Goophone I5:

Problem with Samsung's S3 is that with cheap androids such as those above, margins will race towards zero very, very quickly.

edit - not forgetting their awesome tagline; "This changes anything. Again."

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:55 | 2823856 kridkrid
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I saw an iPhone 5 commercial last night and thought ruh-roh. It was showing me the mechanics of my thumb and my thumb's ability to traverse a space slightly larger than the space previously represented by the screen size of the iPhone 4. It almost seemed like parody, but it wasn't. It was a white flag. The Fonz is in midair and happy days are/is behind us.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:18 | 2823943 Spastica Rex
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I can't wait to hear the air go out of this balloon.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:44 | 2824024 kridkrid
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Until you realize that AAPL is nothing more than a metaphor... Or even then, I suppose... But schadenfreude is better enjoyed when the whole world isn't burning down.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:01 | 2824078 kridkrid
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TWSkeptic didn't like your post. Shruggs shoulders.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:45 | 2824239 dobermangang
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That Samsung commercial was hilarious.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:43 | 2823817 neptunium
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<---------------- AAPL market cap stable 

<---------------- AAPL down ~20% by Q1 2013


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:44 | 2823822 spastic_colon
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looks like the CPI reports may have a problem....appears that extra line of icons won't be enough to keep it in check, let's be clear, the only reason these new igadget releases are useful is for TPTB to be able to control the CPI

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:44 | 2823823 Debtonation
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When is the iPhone 6 coming out?  I can't wait any longer!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:46 | 2823831 Cursive
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:52 | 2823852 EscapeKey
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Krugman's next article will surely highlight how awesome the economy would perform, would Apple release a new iPhone every 3 days.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:20 | 2823951 Spastica Rex
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As I've said, drop iPhones out of helicopters.

Pad the boxes.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:58 | 2823872 LongSoupLine
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Soon...It'll be called the Foxconn 1.  Mail order it from Brazil.  /sarc (sort of)/

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:44 | 2823824 RobinHood73
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:01 | 2823882 DougM
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Put your money where your mouth is pussyboy. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:05 | 2823902 slaughterer
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I am short AAPL since 703.80 last Friday. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:19 | 2823945 GetZeeGold
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Put your money where your mouth is pussyboy.


That's gonna leave a mark.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:16 | 2823933 FubarNation
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My vote is for US Bonds but what do I know.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:45 | 2823827 Cursive
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Maybe if the 5 was 20% heavier than the 4S, it would have sold 10M units.  A $700 stock that's subject to the changing and whimsical tastes of the public.  What could go wrong?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:50 | 2823839 LawsofPhysics
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yes, a toymaker with this kind of "valuation".  I'll only add that you are also talking about a public with increasing less purchasing power as the entire world is now playing a fiat game.  No currency is backed by gold, hence, everyone wouldbe wise to turn all paper promises into something of physical value.  Remind me, what's value of the ithingy when the power, internet, and cellular network all go down again?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:51 | 2823845 laomei
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An ever less-effective paperweight.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:21 | 2824157 ParkAveFlasher
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I'm still waiting for you to send me my Foxconn application, laomei. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:23 | 2823967 Spastica Rex
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What's the value of the "C" on a Coach bag?

Stupid is as stupid does, luckily for the marketeers.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:19 | 2824146 AlaricBalth
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Amen SR.
And who the hell is Christian Louboutin? My fiancé went to Bal Harbour on Saturday and came home with a pair of shoes that cost 1/3 of an ounce of gold. For shoes!!! Geez...I still wear a pair of Sperry Top-siders that are older than her. Then she put her new shoes on with some fishnet stockings and a mini skirt, and all was right in the world.

What a sap. I'm so easily manipulated.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:47 | 2823834 laomei
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Finally the stupid fad breaks?  So much for pet rocks

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:51 | 2823844 insanelysane
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At some point, people realize it is just a phone.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:52 | 2823848 laomei
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What happens when people realize that money is just paper?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:55 | 2823855 GetZeeGold
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Soylent Green is people!!!


Oh the horror....the horror!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:48 | 2823836 Grand Supercycle
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AAPL weekly & monthly overextended parabolic charts are at
EXTREME levels.

This will end in tears and naive longs will be badly burnt.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:49 | 2823838 Id fight Gandhi
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There's always next weekend. Lol. 20 million then!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:51 | 2823847 Shevva
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Anyone know where the fsctory outlet for the iPhone 4S is?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:52 | 2823853 Awakened Sheeple
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:04 | 2823895 GetZeeGold
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That was fast.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:54 | 2823857 The Axe
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This number also includes Fridays numbers.....where is The Pid Piper for Piper now????

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:56 | 2823864 pods
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When the high wears off it will be epic.

People love to be in the "in" group.  Bandwagons are a lot of fun.

Eventually no matter how high you are, you eventually must come down.  

I am pretty sure people got just as high about tulips many moons ago.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 08:57 | 2823871 JustObserving
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Relax, iPhone deliveries were delayed by errors in imaps.  Everything will be fine by next weekend or so.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:00 | 2823877 DougM
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Only dweebs buy phones with droid OS.  Ugly cluttered slow UI just like Linux OS on the desktop.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:03 | 2823894 HelluvaEngineer
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Linux is slow?  WTF are you talking about?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:05 | 2823900 GetZeeGold
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It's a geek throw-down match.....let me get some popcorn!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:14 | 2824618 DCFusor
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Yeah, I guess I should use Winblows or someting instead of the seriously quick and extremely reliable linux in my supercomputers, eh?  Can't use a mac to support the tesla cores...where would I even plug that stuff in?

Who needs uptime, anyway?


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:25 | 2824668 syntaxterror
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Android has 4x as much market share now.


baaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaa

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:01 | 2823884 Racer
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They employed too many of those line stand in'ers that obviously didn't buy anything

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:03 | 2823893 Wakanda
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Steve J's reality distortion field is fading.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:06 | 2823898 stinkhammer
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silly star bellied sneetches

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:26 | 2824186 ParkAveFlasher
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Long SM McBean Corp.  Always break into the scene with the right technology at the right time.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:08 | 2823911 AcidRastaHead
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anyone know if the 5 tastes any better than the 4?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:17 | 2823916 helping_friendl...
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My $20 phone works just fine. All the dick managers at work sit in meetings perusing there phones and I am the only one paying any attention at all.

Have fun with those phone bills, boys and girls, when they switch you over to the limited data plan without telling you.

I suppose they will wait for the iphone 10 first. Then you can have 9 devices sitting in your draw and thinking " I could have traveled round the world for the price of these worthless paper weights."

I remember seeing the first computer I ever bought, an 8088 which cost me $3,500 in 1987?, sitting in a thrift store with a $75 price tag (ten years later). I almost died. $3,500 could have taken me around the world in 1986 and there would have been more to see since we hadn't waged war all over the world yet.

Have fun with your paperweights. When Junior ask why you can't afford College tell him Apple needed the money more than the College fund.


When I drop my phone in the hot tub after to many shots of whiskey ,which happens quite to often, I'm off to Target the next morning to get another $20 phone. Let's see how long Stacy cries when she can't check her FB page because someone stuck a gun in her face for her stupid phone. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:38 | 2824008 FubarNation
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I have a Motofone F3 that has a superior call quality to any iphone I've owned.  The simplicity is a refreshing change.  I salute you $20 phone guy.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:03 | 2824085 helping_friendl...
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Thank you sir!

Traveling to China over Christmas and New Years and have saved $10,000 this year made possible by not wasting my money. 

I should save a lot more money but, what is the point in this control-P environment? I just spend on travel while the value of the dollar allows.

I'll give you guys/gals my inflation accessment when I get back.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:10 | 2823918 LouisDega
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iMbroke. I will stick to my 4s. No issues here.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:15 | 2823931 monopoly
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Still do not think this is a good time to short Apple. My daughter works in one of the flag ship stores in Oregon and she advised they needed about 3,500 each day to satisfy demand with the count of people in that one store. Thursday night they shipped her 650 phones. Needless to say consumers were disappointed. Many stores ran out of the new Iphone. So I think part of it is available supply.

How many times have we written off Apple and within a couple of weeks, back up it goes. Not long or short, just giving all the facts. Many stores sold out due to limited supply. Lets give it a few days before we drive Apple to the lows of that superior stock with losses as far as the eye can see. AMZN>

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:40 | 2823941 drivenZ
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10M? I heard 6-8M and as low as 3.5M. Anyone who was saying 10M was wildly extrapolating the first day sales of 2M since they were double the first day 4S sales of 1M. By all realistic estimates they're still crushing it. They sold 4M iphone 4S's over the first weekend during the last release. So this is an improvement from that number plus they're rolling out sales to another 22 countries at the end of the week. The pre-market slide is knee jerk, this release alone means next to nothing. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:05 | 2824096 drivenZ
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oh also, I guess it's only convenient to mention algos on ZH when they take down gold or the market's up? right? not on headline releases of the largest stock in the world? a 2% pre market loss is all attributed to a natural selloff from dissapointed shareholders, right? oh boy, I feel for the folks on ZH(aka, Fox news of the financial press) that don't fact check or read other sources. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:19 | 2823947 monopoly
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Agree, not broke, but very happy with my 4S. And are all the 2 million pre orders in the hands of consumers? I think Apple does not count those as sold until they are signed for by the consumer. So lets chill for a bit on Apple. 

My eyes are looking at this correction in miners to add more soon. Not worried about Apple or the "great" housing recovery that will fail....again.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:23 | 2823958 monopoly
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Reggie, sorry. You have been wrong on Apple for so long, why bother. Sure at some point it will go down, but geesh, how many hundreds up until you are correct. True, their mapping tool sucks, but how long will that last?

Give it a rest.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:22 | 2823959 Broccoli
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When you buy things and the herd validates your purchase while standing in line pleasure chemicals are released in your brain. You get addicted to those chemicals.

After those chemicals wear off, your brain fights reality by creating justifications about why this marginal upgrade was worth $600 +20% APR on your credit card . It's lighter, the camera loads .25s quicker, OMG I CAN'T SEE INDIVIDUAL PIXELS ANYMORE CAUSE THEY ARE SO TINY!

We humans are strange creatures.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:21 | 2824648 DCFusor
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Man is a rationalizing, not a rational, animal.  You make dumb-ass decisions with your gut, and only then engage your intellect to try to make up a story about how it was a good move.  Any trader should know this - have it tatooted on their chest.  It's how those of us who actually do "think different" take your money.

Of course, thinking different in herds is kinda oxymoronic, no?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:24 | 2823968 longshortflat
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ZH is being WAY TOO GENEROUS in the headline!

Preorders were 2mm up from 1mm for Iphone 4s. So using your 10mm high sale estimate, that projects 8mm weekend sales up from Iphone 4s 3mm sales on first 3 days. Actual Iphone 5 sales were 5mm, including the preorders, so 3mm/8mm (high estimates) is a 62.5 % shortfall to real buyers and Ebayers.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:30 | 2823981 drivenZ
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exactly, the estimates were based on a record breaking first day of 2M sales. The shortfall is in comparison to first day sales. Not pre-release expectations. completely different and cant be extrapolated out across multiple days. have you never done modeling before? 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:26 | 2823972 orangegeek
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NASDAQ100 weekly still looks poised, techically, to go higher.


It's difficult to picks tops/bottoms.  Easier to wait for a turn.  This could be a "turn week".

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:45 | 2824030 CosmicDebris
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Tapped out. Sorry Apple. I suppose this is going to common for future Apple products, too.  Just a guess. I don't think I'm alone anymore. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:46 | 2824032 earnyermoney
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I suspect the crappy mapping software dampened sales. Happy with my 99 cent 3S with iOS 5. Will not update to iOS 6 untiil Apple resolves the mapping software bugs.

Camera comparisons? LOL.

I'm really enjoying the rerun of the Windows vs. Linux wars.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 09:51 | 2824043 CosmicDebris
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I've heard nothing but shit with the iOS 6. Glad I was busy with something else on my iPhone when that update popped up.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:03 | 2824088 franzpick
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I'll WAG that 700 is it for AAPL: I was here once before, back in the day, when QCOM hit 700, an analyst issued a call for QCOM 1000, and we decided it was time to go.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:24 | 2824174 edifice
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5 million iSheep got into iDebt this weekend.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 10:32 | 2824203 Fort
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I'm the proud owner of an apple I3 or so, not sure to be honest. I inherrited it from my wife who took out a new contract to get the I4. Mine has a broken window, but, since I only use it to make and receive phone calls I'm not bothered to get the class fixed for the €30-€50 euro they charge for the surgery. The bonus for having a broken glass is that the calls don't work to well when it rains. This is an excellent excuse in Holland with lots of rain. It helps me to stay in control instead of handing over the control to a device. To be honest I've yet to run into an App that actually adds value, but with my broken window that is not fair to say, I cannot actually see the apps. My next phone will be the $20 type phone talked about before, I do not need it to have internet. My 12 ought hours a day on a PC are more than enough to enlighten me on day to day affairs of the world and work. When I close the door at the end of the day it is over as far as I'm concerned, I do not want to see another digital information source I just want to go home and enjoy my life with my family.

Apple may go north of $1k dollar per share and find the greatest products, I really hope they'll be that succesful. Personally I cannot be bothered with all these gadgets. These were the basic rules I was once taught their is a group of early adaptors that will jump on the next cool thing everytime. I'm convinced this group of people has a high rate of apple addicts. I'm also convinced a big group of more conservative consumers will simply use their brain's and never become real apple addicts. This does not mean they will never buy apple as a principle, but they will only buy a device which they think will offer best value. Apple has a war to win in this field, if it can win that battle, they will definitely go north of $1k. If they cannot this is about as far as they get.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:55 | 2824533 the tower
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Maybe a stupid question, but how many AAPL shares are in circulation? One billion?

Now, how many iPhones are there in circulation?


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 11:59 | 2824561 cocoablini
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Basically people are waiting in contrived lines for a toaster of the modern age. It's a FINE device, in a sea of devices. Nothing that special anymore. One thing that hacs me off is iOS and all these apps you download are all communicating with their backends and diagnostics and testing. So SO MUCH DATA is being passed back anbd forth, eating your dataplan and you get nothing out of it. The chatter between apps and their mother ships is incredible-everything. I don't even want these things anymore, they have made my life HELL

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:39 | 2824712 cashcow
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$AAPL iPhone is the Dutch tulip of the 2010s.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:39 | 2824714 cashcow
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$AAPL iPhone is the Dutch tulip of the 2010s.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 12:40 | 2824715 cashcow
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$AAPL iPhone is the Dutch tulip of the 2010s.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:14 | 2825335 Threeggg
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Dont underestimate bennie & the inkjets coming in and taking this to new highs with the Infinipress ® Afterall what is Apple's weighting on the S&P index now 6-7% ?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:30 | 2825406 franzpick
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Today's market has taken a bite out of AAPL, leaving a gap from 695 to 700, along with similar bites taken out of NDX, VTI, AMZN, SOX, NWX, RLX, HWI, XAX and others.  My downside leading indicator, DJTA, sitting on 10 month support, is only 1% away from breaking down.  Weak close or opening tomorrow will be popcorn time.

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