Spanish Military Threatens Treason As Catalonia Seeks Secession Referendum

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"Do not play with the feelings of the Catalans" is the totally unveiled threat after Catalonia's beggars-can-be-choosers demand for an unconditional bailout fell on deaf ears. The traditionally separatist-minded province has decided, according to ANSAmed, has decided to pull a Greece - and escalate with a move to secession. A resolution, on the right of the Catalan people to cut off ties with the Spanish state, will be voted on Thursday by the regional parliament.



This statement of "the will of Catalan people to vote on the bond with the State of Spain" opens the way for forthcoming elections on November 25 to become a referendum on the sovereignty of Catalonia.


The Spanish military are not taking this lying down with the counter-threat that these 'separatists' and their 'inappropriate and unacceptable' threat to break-up Spain shall be, according to El Economista, charged with high treason. We are sure Draghi has a 'grand plan' for this.


Via ANSAmed: Spain: Catalan Parliament will vote on right of independence

(ANSAmed) - Madrid, September 24 - The parties which played a central role in the National Day of Catalonia on September 11, 2012 are now working on a statement on the right of the Catalan people to cut off the tie with the Spanish state.


The resolution will be voted on Thursday by the regional parliament, at the end of the general debate due to start tomorrow. To the writing of the resolution on sovereignty, which is not binding, are participating the following parties: Convergencia i Union (CiU), the ruling party in the Generalitat, with 62 deputies; Iniciativa (ICV-Euia), with 10 deputies; Esquerra Republicana (ERC), 10 deputies, the independents of Solidaritat, 3 deputies, and Joan Laporta.


The Popular Party (PP) (18 deputies) and Ciutadans (3) are against the initiative, while the Socialist Party (PSC, 28) proposes to move towards the construction of a federal state.


According to Spanish media, the statement won't be only a proposition, as others rated in the past by the Catalan room, but goes further, and expresses "the will of Catalan people to vote on the bond with the State of Spain".


In addition to this, it opens the way for forthcoming elections which may already take place on November 25, and a referendum on the sovereignity of Catalonia, claimed by parties supporting a national indipendence. A decision which, as indicated by the Catalan President Artur Mas, must be taken by the majority of the Parliament.


After the refusal of the government of Mariano Rajoy of a fiscal pact with Catalonia - a privileged system of financing, such as those in the Basque Country and in Navarre - Mas said that it was time to take a step forward, even with the a referendum for indipendence.


For his part, the Secretary General of Convergence (CDC), Oriol Pujol, declared to be "skeptical about a dialogue" suggested on Saturday by Prime Minister Rajoy, to check the possibility of an agreement on the financing of Catalonia. He also urged the Prime Minister to take initiative and "Do not play with the feelings of the Catalans".


According to La Vanguardia, the model for the new Catalonia would be Scotland. (ANSAmed).


Via El Economista: (Google Translate'd) But military warn of the consequences of promoting "fracture of Spain"

Spanish Military Association (SMA) has warned Monday that those who cooperate or allow "fracture" of Spain should "respond with all the utmost rigor" in the courts in the field of military courts by the "serious charge high treason. "


In a statement, the association warns that "the highest office" and "governments" should take "appropriate action immediately to remove any hint of secession without armed forces look serious and unpardonable in tessitura to comply scrupulously strictly with the mission and that the Constitution gives them to ensure the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of our country. "


"If it had unfortunately-warn-act, there must be no doubt that those who have allowed, participated or assisted in reaching this last time but repeated threat of fracture of Spain, by commission, omission or out of your constitutional positions shall be accountable to the fullest extent of all so serious charge of treason before the courts in the field of military jurisdiction. "


For this association, the attitude of the president of the Generalitat of Catalonia, Artur Mas, and members "separatists" of Parliament is "inappropriate and unacceptable" and "not consistent with any of the ways with the duty and responsibility as representatives of the state, are required to observe and exercise ".


According to AME, current events in Catalonia are the result of "a frightening economic crisis and other manifestly disastrous political management by the formations that incur a high treason to voluntarily maintain a system of electoral representation that encourages the emergence and establishment of separatist nationalism to give in to his blackmail votes to stay in power. "


This association, which is not registered in the Register of Professional Associations of members of the Armed Forces, created in light of the Bill of Rights and Duties of the military-is chaired by retired Colonel Leopoldo Munoz and is mainly composed of former members of hosts and Navy.

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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:53 | 2825075 Pladizow
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"Treason doth never prosper. Whats the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."  - Sir John Harrington 1561-1613

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2825114 Stackers
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Welcome to the hotel Spain. You can check in but you can never leave.......

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:11 | 2825163 Richard Chesler
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Treason = messing with banksters' bonus.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:21 | 2825199 hedgeless_horseman
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Nobody expects the Spanish bifurcation!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:27 | 2825216 Oh regional Indian
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Pretty darn freaky people. Please take a look at the map in the post linked below. 

The line passes EXACTLy through Cataluniya.




Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:49 | 2825275 Surly Bear
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I know a Catalonian, and *I* wouldn't mess with her. You can do what you like.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:55 | 2825293 Sudden Debt
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Catalonia: Madrid...
Madrid: yes my little milk cow, whasssuuupp?!
Catalonia: I like you... but I think we should see other people....
Madrid: WHAT?!?!?! I just sold you my bonds!!!
Catalonia: It's just not working out... I slept with....Germany...
Madrid: NNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:51 | 2825282 El Diablo Rojo
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Junked you for superstition and not reading the inards of frogs properly.  Everyone know you must first take the 33rd parallel and divide it by 3 to arrive at a prime number, then on the eleventh day of november (11th month) in the year 2011 (11+11+11) cut open a frog (frenchie) in Barcalona to find out if the bailout will be successful.  Come on Dude, links like that should also have a sublink to a Nigerian Prince who needs help. Your credibility was just shot down by a .33 caliber round.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:59 | 2825308 Oh regional Indian
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And yet, on 9th March 2011 (18 months ago) I drew a line on a map based on a certain Hypothesis, and it passes EXACTLY through Cataluniya.

So...yeah, whatever.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:31 | 2825443 magpie
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Congrats if you saw this coming

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 18:40 | 2826064 BigJim
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It's pretty clear you should stop drawing lines on maps - we don't want any more trouble, do we?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 22:52 | 2826799 Think for yourself
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post hoc, ergo procter hoc. Correlation is not causation. Unless You saw it and called it at that time, it's not an argument for your line. Moreover, anybody who knows a few catalans or who know the history of the region could have assigned a very high degree of probability of the situation like this decades ago.

Your "line" doesn't foresee it, nor does it explain it. It does not even qualify as a hypothesis; it doesn't even make falsifiable predictions. "Oh, here's a line, I claim it is the line of evil-doing, so at some time some events might happen at some points on this line..." 

That's very poor science, especially for someone who defines himself as an en-sign.

Sat, 10/06/2012 - 11:48 | 2862767 lakecity55
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There is no such thing as a "33rd Degree" Freemason.

Third is as high as one goes, Master Mason.

If you can't figure out your own life, blame it on some vast conspiracy that explains everything.

Real life consists of numerous real conspirators, special interest factions, constantly competing against each other.


Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:33 | 2825668 Dcheeth2
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That line passes right over my house in Devon.


I am evil personified. Watch out world, Satan lives...

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 23:46 | 2826912 Cathartes Aura
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hmmm. . .

dev-on. . . dev-ill. . .

yep, pure evil you are.

but excellent clotted cream teas, nonetheless. . .

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 03:32 | 2827085 Ar-Pharazôn
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well.... do you think there is any country in the west world that will allow one of his region to declare indipendence? ..............................

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:01 | 2825121 economics9698
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If we can convince Governor Perry of Texas to start the succession proceedings from the USA we can get the ball rolling.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:05 | 2825143 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:37 | 2825245 otto skorzeny
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I think that's a swell idea-invite the Jews to this cool "Redoubt" and tell them they are welcome and then-Voila!-free labor/gold fillings. I will need a ratline through the Vatican when the "Redoubt" collapses and I make my way to Argentina.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:27 | 2825425 N. B. Forrest
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Sweet.  I'm already here.  When does the party start?  When can I chase away the EPA, BIA, Dept of Ag. goons in all their stripes. 

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:44 | 2825261 TheInfoman
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There would be a stampede to Texas.  Me first, BTW.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:55 | 2825537 Grinder74
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Perhaps some U.S. States need to start succession referendums.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 17:12 | 2825793 They Tried to S...
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Lets get started!....

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 21:31 | 2826611 Buck Johnson
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So true, so true.  That quote is one that I never  heard of.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:53 | 2825076 Schmuck Raker
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:54 | 2825082 Jonas Parker
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If at first you don't secede, try, try again!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:58 | 2825104 Peter Pan
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Where is Zorro when you need him?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:59 | 2825110 ParkAveFlasher
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In Mexico, stacking tits!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2825115 CPL
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It's like everyone and their cousin is going out of their way to make the mess bigger.



Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:22 | 2825203 Oh regional Indian
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Church was not having any of it, so they started on separating state from state.



Mon, 09/24/2012 - 17:19 | 2825439 Jack Burton
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Yes CPL, now that things are really headed downhill those who see opportunity to stoke the flames are coming out of hiding. NAZI's in Greece? Check. Seperatists in Spain? Check.  Israel's bombers ready to fly? Check. China versus Japan over ocean rocks? Check.

Lots more where those came from. I think hsitory shows that when a system begins to collapse, the forces held in check by universal hope and prosperity begin to question their place in a system no longer able to deliver. This is also where the Texas succession talk came from. Once they saw the USA as a giant debt bomb, some thought why not get out.

There is so much more to play out. This is inning 1 of an extra innings ball game called  Bankers Capitalism Going Under!  I hope by inning 3 or 4 we start to see bankers swinging from lamp posts, they have brought so much of this onto us. Their new financial engineers seeking to harvest the world's wealth have collapsed the system. They should pay first!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 00:09 | 2826944 i-dog
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There's just one teeny-weeny flaw in your reading: their actual plan, often published, is to create Order from Chaos ('ordo ab chao'). It is they who are crashing the financial system, now that they have acquired title to most real and financial assets using counterfeit 'money'.

It's not an 'accident', nor a 'mistake', nor 'incompetence' ... since, in the US, European bankers had tried to impose a central bank over commerce and government borrowings from day one (in 1781, immediately after ratification of the Articles of Confederation) and finally succeeded on the fourth attempt in 1913.

You may indeed yet see bankers swinging from lamp posts, since they will be expendable once a global politburo is in place. But this will only occur after 'they' have further consolidated control over the political organs -- and dismantled most of them -- and any bankster hangings would be encouraged by the political masters behind the scenes (to thunderous applause and adulation by the dumb fucking sheep)!

The 'complex system' is about to go through a 'phase change' which TPTB think they can control to their sole benefit. We'll soon see.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:22 | 2825200 magpie
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Rebellious Catalonia left Spain in a state of Catatonia !

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:46 | 2825709's picture

Caledonia! Caledonia! What makes you think you're so hot?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:56 | 2825093 magpie
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"Let Freedom reign"

edit:in catalan please ?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2825117 CPL
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Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:03 | 2825328 Count de Money
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"Que regni la llibertat" courtesy of Google Translate.

As languages go, Catalan is more closely related to French than it is to Spanish.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 15:10 | 2825356 magpie
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Thank you, but it's langue d'Oc to be precise

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:55 | 2825095 Skateboarder
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Do it Catalonia, show the rest of the world that a fight can be fought and won, that people can live like people in communities where everyone is valued, that sustainability comes from within your turf and not shipped across the seven seas. VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:10 | 2825158 Undecided
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This would only matter if they didn't want to Stay in the Euro and request a bailout, but alas they still want to stay in the Euro and get a bailout lol.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 16:05 | 2825570 Miss Expectations
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Which is the same as criticized by Nigel Farage here:

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 19:22 | 2826233 peter4805
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Nigel pretty much cuts her to pieces. Go Nigel!!

Tue, 09/25/2012 - 10:23 | 2827724 A Man without Q...
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Exactly - Brussels will tell them they cannot stay in Euro, hence access the ECB, so they would face a collapse of their banks.  Unfortunately, they are trapped, and Madrid knows it.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 13:56 | 2825099 Banksters
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Jon Corzine here.... I wanted to give a shout out to the peasants: Suck my DICK!

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:03 | 2825129 Skateboarder
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But good sir, how do you expect one to suck on anything that microscopic?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:17 | 2825180 Ying-Yang
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Here let me help... where are those tweezers?

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 18:43 | 2826073 BigJim
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Make mine zircon-encrusted

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:07 | 2825150 CPL
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Thanks Jon,

Glad to hear you are doing alright.  Eat a bag of dicks.



Everyone that works for a living.

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:19 | 2825181 Banksters
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Steal a candy bar in America and go to jail. Steal a billion and suffer a tarnished reputation..

Mon, 09/24/2012 - 14:51 | 2825280 sushi
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Steal 500 billion and get a huge bonus and a promotion and glowing write ups in the trade press for your business acumen.

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