Paul Ryan: "Do You Want Barack Obama To Be Reelected? Then Don't Vote For Ron Paul"

Tyler Durden's picture

It took a while for the unspoken truth to be finally spoken, but sooner or later, it always is. Via The Hill:

Paul Ryan argued Monday that a vote for a third-party candidate would likely help President Obama win reelection.


Ryan was asked why voters should not vote for Ron Paul. The Republican vice presidential candidate responded that a vote for Paul, who ran for the 2012 GOP nomination, would effectively split the vote in a way that helps Obama.


"Do you want Barack Obama to be reelected? Then don't vote for Ron Paul," Ryan said during a campaign speech in Lima, Ohio, on Monday.


Ryan went on to say that Paul was a good friend.


"Actually, Ron's a friend of mine. I know Ron very well. I like Ron quite a bit. There are many things that Ron has championed that I'm a big believer in, especially liberty and sound money."


Although Paul is no longer campaigning for president, he has not endorsed Mitt Romney's campaign.

What if one wants Ron Paul to be elected? Can one vote for Ron Paul then?

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walküre's picture

You're cheaper than a street whore in Phuket.

If Ron Paul endorsed the Romney/Ryan ticket, I would consider that a sell-out.

Swarmee's picture

To be fair, Bicycle didn't say RP's endorsement would guarantee his vote, just that it was a prerequisite. I also assume that a RP endorsement would only come from the campaign embracing some/all of RP's platform, in which case its not neccessarily selling out. As was well-stated above, the point is to get the policies of liberty in place, I care somewhat less about who exactly implements them.

But let's be real, Romney/Ryan will not be implementing major RP ideals anytime this century.

donsluck's picture

Platform shmatform. Have you SEEN the Rep platform? Do they really expect to deliver?

Al Gorerhythm's picture

"How would he get RP's endorsement without adopting Paul's policies?", is the meaning I gleaned from it.

Bicycle Repairman's picture

Dude, Ron Paul isn't endorsing the GOP ticket.  As for your momma ......

FreedomGuy's picture

Yes! The people here are smarter than the guys advising Mitt Milktoast.

I actually think the Romney wing of the Republican party does not like the Ron Paul/libertarian wing...or the Tea Party wing for that matter. I actually think they like many Democrats better than the right wing of the right wing party.

Gringo Viejo's picture

Don't like what Ryan's saying? Tough shit, he's telling the truth. As for me, a patriot, I'm voting for Obama to hasten the collapse. Sooner we bring this shit to a head, the better.

cossack55's picture

that thought has occurred to me also. Ain't gettin' no younger. Just can't bring myself to pull the lever for a dem or repub. Not that my vote counts anyway.

Redhotfill's picture

I'm voting for Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho in 2012, who's with me?!

rustymason's picture

That would be more entertaining than his lame ass cousin we got in there now.

Redhotfill's picture

I'm voting for Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho in 2012, who's with me?!

e_goldstein's picture

Nope, Cthulhu. No more choosing between the lesser of 2 evils for me.

ebworthen's picture

Dr. Gispert Churchill Johnny Walker Black gets my vote (after I write in Ron Paul)

Gringo Viejo's picture

Take Note!....I'm an old man. Techno-unsophisticated. Please go to youtube and watch Gretchen Wilson/Merle Haggard/Politically Uncorrect. Would ask a younger, more techno-savvy individual to post it.

silverserfer's picture

youre not a patriot gringo. Youre integrity has been comprimised and youre brain is taking on water. 

ebworthen's picture

I understand your point.

It does seem as though the see-saw of Republicrat/Demican keeps the kids distracted.

Perhaps if it stops going back and forth we will see our lunches and bikes being stolen by the Park Police and giant Squirrels.

Peter Pan's picture

Americans will unfortunately get who they deserve and not who they need. The siren call of both sides offering gifts to the masses and the special interest groups is too powerful for a man who wants America to change course.

TruthInSunshine's picture

Paul Ryan:


"Look, bitchez, don't upset the apple cart, okay? We establishment Republicans & establishment Democrats have a very good thing going in creating our gerrymandered "safe districts," allowing us to make tons of cash for ourselves, our family members & best friends, simply by throwing social wedge issues out there to provide the illusion that either party's candidates don't work for the very same people and institutions that they really do."

capitallosses's picture

"The trouble with quotes on the internet is it's difficult to determine if they are genuine." Abraham Lincoln

ebworthen's picture

TruthInSunshine - most excellent.

Yes, this is what the fly on the dirty distended intestinal wall of the U.S. political machine heard him say.

UGrev's picture

Gary Johsnon's campaign is in debt. 

Ron Paul's is not. 

Who understands finances better? the guy who's in debt and begging for money? or the guy who has no debt and can show that he knows how to manage finances? 


Now, tell me again who are you going to vote for?

hedgeless_horseman's picture



"I don't care who does the electing, as long as I get to do the nominating."


-Boss Tweed

crusty curmudgeon's picture

"It's Not the People Who Vote that Count; It's the People Who Count the Votes." -- (commonly attributed to) Josef Stalin

TruthInSunshine's picture

+Unlimited QEeeeesing, Hedgeless, and one of your masterpieces.

New World Chaos's picture

"I care not what puppet  is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The  man who controls Britain's money supply controls the  British Empire and I control the British money supply."

-Nathan Rothschild

Id fight Gandhi's picture

A star on him or a flag would make that picture complete if you know what I mean.

CrashisOptimistic's picture

Don't vote FOR anyone.

Vote AGAINST Obama, and there is only one vote that can serve to deny him another term -- and every single one of you know it.

I am disappointed that ZH is working for Obama's re-election.

LMAOLORI's picture



A vote for obama is a vote for bernanke and so is not voting or writing in a vote


HOT: Fed Prez Spills the Beans on the Excess Reserve Inflation Time Bomb


jumbo maverick's picture

Yeah zero hedge is working to re elect obunghole. you must not read things here very often.

Having said that I am the biggest anti obunghole person you will ever meet yet I still am undecided on whom to vote for. In want to vote for him to speed up the imminent collapse.

My only reservation on voting for him is that the collapse is going to bring a lot of pain for a lot of people, well almost everyone so I don't know if I can pull he lever for him based on all of that.

TPTB have created such a mess and somehow in the end it is the little guys like me that have to chose upon making such a screwed up decision. Do I support the quick collapse or the prolonged collapse?

silverserfer's picture

please... dont dumb down this thread ANY MORE!

tmosley's picture

I see the Cult of Death Worship has endorsed Romney.

So if you love death, and want it to come as soon as possible, vote Romney!

OldTrooper's picture

Plenty of politicians have run up debts for elections.  It's an ancient tradition.  Check out the early career of Julius Ceasar (but, of course, Ceasar did win the election for Pontifex Maximus).

Lohn Jocke's picture

AAH, fucking closed-minded hypocritical fascist. Neither candidate would recognize the tenth amendment if it slapped them in the face.

Treeplanter's picture

That's why the Tea Party will gain seats in Congress.  The Second Revolution starts at the kitchen table.  Breaking windows is for crybabies and slackers who can't even deal with their own trash. We sent the Crown packing, now it's the permanent political class's turn.  One term is all you get, Mitt. 

SheepRevolution's picture

Oooohh so noooow these stupid retards are beginning to figure out that mocking the Ron Paul-supporters wasn't that good of an idea?

Well bu-fucking-hu Mr. Ryan!

Taffy Lewis's picture

Exactly, SheepRevolution. I got zotted from FreeRepublic for sticking up for Ron Paul early during the debates. Fuck them. As somebody once said here, I'll vote for Ron Paul and have a good night sleep. Plus, the little Bamster will bring the end sooner.

Timmay's picture

BINGO.  Obama will do more good for this country by destroying faster then Romney.

Votewithabullet's picture

...beg to differ, bamster will continue the printing ie kicking the can , if ryan and the romulan keep the promise and  stop the presses then we get NBC's Revolution with out the super fox , subtract a trillion from this machine per year and boom boom out goes the lights, I will vote for ron paul cause I'm a faithful follower of Brother Jon Birch and I belong to the antioch Baptist Church and I aint even got a garage you can call home and ask my wife...

Redhotfill's picture

Boo effen hoo when you lose a key state by less than the margin of Ron Paul votes not counted fuckers!

Gavrikon's picture

We lose no matter who wins.  The ONLY possible advantage I can see to Mitt Romney is that he is not an anti-white racist like Obama or Holder.  Oh, and perhaps he won't nationalize my IRA as quickly.

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot's picture

Don't vote. It only encourages them.

I was (am?) in the same boat, but now I'm thinking about abstaining.

Of course, there's always the old "if you don't vote, you have no right to complain" line. I think the opposite is true: if you vote for the perceived lesser of two evils, you have no right to complain when more evil ensues.

The two party system that graciously allows us to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich every four years is no longer leglitimate. Voting (for anyone) only lends an air of legitimacy to an otherwise hopelessly lost system. Not voting sends a powerful message if enough people do it.

Assetman's picture

Better yet, vote your true conscience... even if you have to write it in.

My true conscience is leaning Libertarian.  And perhaps, Freddie Mercury.

Too bad most voters think they only have to choose the lesser of 2 evils.  Last election for President, there were 8 nominees on my ballot.


Gavrikon's picture

OK, if you are writing in Freddie Mercury, then I am writing in "Murray Rothbard."