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Quote Of The Day: Iran > US, EU
Today's quote of the day award goes to...
- AHMADINEJAD SAYS SITUATION IN IRAN `NOT SO DIRE'
- AHMADINEJAD SAYS IRAN ECONOMY `CERTAINLY BETTER' THAN U.S., EU
The irony of course is that absent the trillions in fiat created out of thin air by the "developed world's" central banks, and the destruction of the purchasing power of their populations, he would be absolutely right. The bigger irony is that the Iran is by far winning the global race to debase, with its currency hitting a new record low of 26,500 vs the USD just yesterday, and has lost more than half of its value in the past year. Needless to say, Iran's epic ability to destroy its currency with such utter disdain is making central bankers around the world green with envy.
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pretty demoralizing to get schooled by 'lil Hitler
"lil Hitler" -
Which one, the one in Iran, Israel, or the U.S.?
yes.
conspiracy theorists!! you are on the list.....
The heads of the BOJ, ECB, PBOC & Federal Reserve sit and marvel at what Ben Bernanke allegedly referred to as the "mad skills, yo"* of the Iranian Central Bank.
*Bernanke allegedly made this comment to Jon Hilsenrath of The Wall Street Journal over a casual lunch at The Cheesecake Factory, as reported by Hilsenrath himself.
The truth is that Iran is actually the rich country who inherited natural wealth....namely oil.
but US elites maintains control by fooling everyone that "hard work pays" so they need to have countries like Iran low in the world order no matter how high the crude prices are and how mismanaged US economy is.
You need social order to have people work hard. If you tell your workers that it is all luck to become rich, then who is going to work hard? You tell people, work hard and get a medical license then you will enjoy certain amount of money although free market says that that kind of profit privilege should erode away with technology, productivity, and competition. This comes at a cost to some janitor who may be the best janitor in the world. but social order dictates that best janitor < worst doctor in order to encourage talents to funnel through medical school.
liberalism changes the order. Best rapper says, his entertainment value is greater than what social structure dictates and on free market earns more than a doctor with multiple law suits on file. It is up to the elite social architects to say how much of talents should be allocated to rapping versus medical services by setting the rules of the game. When one gets too big, elites comes in and put you back into place where they think you belong.
So the ultimate goal is to become this social architect ....someone above the law of the game of life. but watch out when they come after you. They will label you an enemy and find justification to get rid of you.
September 26, 2012
Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) has leapt into the Syrian battle arena, undertaking the task of transforming the Alawite Shabbiha militia, which has carried the brunt of Bashar Assad’s brutal suppression of the Syrian opposition for 18 months, into a new corps, retrained and reorganized on the model of the elite Al Qods Brigade.
Al Qods is the IRGC’s arm of clandestine and terrorist operations in Iran's foreign arenas.
Military sources report exclusively that when the Shabbiha is slapped into its new military shape, Bashar Assad will have at his disposal an extra 50-60,000 professional Alawite soldiers under arms – the nucleus of a Syrian Revolutionary Guards Corps.
The sources also reveal that Tehran has promised the Syrian outfit weaponry on a par with the Al Qods arsenal. So, unless he is overthrown in the interim, the Syrian ruler and Iranian government will command the biggest special operations force in the Middle East.
For this project, a massive Iranian airlift of personnel and weapons is running daily from IRGC air bases in Iran into Syria. Most of the planes land at Damascus military airfield; some in other parts of Syria. They are carrying large numbers of IRGC and al Qods military officers and instructors, as well as enough arms to distribute to the Shabbiha combatants during their training and after they go out on field operations.
The military sources disclose that by mid-week, the number of Iranian military personnel present in Syria had swelled to 2,200. They arrived with the commander of Tehran’s Syrian enterprise, Gen. Ibrahim Hamadani, one of the deputies of Al Qods chief, Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
All US efforts, including personal intercession by President Barack Obama, have failed to dissuade Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki from allowing the Iranian military air corridor to Syria take a short cut through Iraqi air space. Maliki has refused to listen. [Well, well. I thought America won in Iraq.]
Tehran’s willingness in these tense times to hazard the withdrawal of thousands of crack officers, commanders and weapons from combat duty in Iran attests to two conclusions reached by Iranian strategists:
1. They estimate that the United States and Israel have shelved plans for an imminent military strike on Iran’s nuclear program.
2. And if a surprise attack is nonetheless launched, thousands of Iranian elite troops will be on hand to menace Israel from the Syrian border without delay.
PS
Looks like Israel now has special forces from Iran on its own boarder. I love to see the fight. Netanyahu can end up as Qaddafi.
A military/political block of ~100 millions Iranians, 35 millions Iraqis, and 35 millions Syrians looks impressive to me. Well, the USA, NATO, and Israel are about to meet a nightmare our corrupt zionist leaders never dreamed about. OK, Romney can handle it. I have full confidence in both Obama and Romney and their zionist masters.
[Well, well. I thought America won in Iraq.]
Yeah, this how WE steal those vanquished countries resources.
"2. And if a surprise attack is nonetheless launched, thousands of Iranian elite troops will be on hand to menace Israel from the Syrian border without delay.
PS
Looks like Israel now has special forces from Iran on its own boarder. I love to see the fight. Netanyahu can end up as Qaddafi."
you are definitely underestimating Israely Defence Force. Which in last analysis is backed by US Army.
IbenJackmajinanoff is ASKING.Pleading for Israel to bomb their ass.
Goes before the U N on Yom Kippur, and tells every swinging wiener in the world , ISRAEL MUST and WILL be DESTROYED.
Talk about pissing off a sleeping dog.
sleeping?
Well, it's obvious the Iranians want nuclear weapons -plain and simple. Just as it was obvious in the 1930s that Germany was re-militarizing at alarming speed.
The question is motive. Why do they want them?? What conclusions can we draw based on what their leaders have said. I don't care if the leaders rule by force over the people, they still have the reigns. Personally, I think they are looking for. war. But there are many jew haters on here who want to see Israel attacked.
So junk me ya Jew haters.
Who wouldn't want to defend themselves from the US and Israel? And why do we even care about Iran in the first place? Oil. We can't take their oil if they can defend themselves with a nuclear weapon, and we can't have that now, can we?
This has nothing to do with Jews or Muslims. It's all about oil and the Chinese. Get your heads out of your asses and wake up.
Hey putz, then why are we paying through the ass for oil and haven't gotten any oil from Iraq, and obviously none from Afghanistan?? And you believe in man made global warming too?
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in 200 years.
That's false. Their Revolutionary guard is fighting in Syria right now.
As I understood it, they were helping an ally defending against alien invasion. Sounds like what would Nato have done all too happily had the syrian regular army attacked the syrian free terrorist army camps in turkey and elsewhere.
someone said, government isn't even about the money.....but about control....power.
US has oil too and can make a lot of money just pumping out oil from Alaska. But they don't care about that. US has money...can print money on demand. Richest fucker on the block doesn't care about more money...but they care about power over others.
US elites care about not having control over Iran's oil. because rich Iran = rich middle east = money to criticize and compete against American oligrachy.
US elites care about not having control over Iran's oil. because rich Iran = rich middle east = money to criticize and compete against American oligrachy
That go for Iraq, and Lybia also??.They have oil, a lot.
Aldous, we have plenty now.Way more than we need, or use.
We EXPORT 28% of our REFINED gasoline, not Crude, but the ready to run and pump stuff, to to other countires NOW.
So why are we paying $4.00 a gal for lowest grade?, cause Obama wants us to.And he's just starting IF he gets a second shot, it will be $10.00.
Before he lifted a finger to use our own massive supplies, and I am not just talking Alaskan.
don't look at oil for profit or our domestic consumption but as petrodollar system and control of global commerce.
iraq? ...US was ok until sadaam started to trade oil in Euros
libya? ....US was ok until Gaddafi started pan -african gold backed currency movement
iran?.....US was ok until new bourse was operating to trade oil in diversified currencies
US doesn't invade for oil....US invades when oil is not traded in dollars.
essentially dollar is backed by oil and elites can't have any other because their assets are dollar denominated.
US is interested in 3 things for global domination: Currency (to control economy), Oil (to control commerce), Food (to control people)....tools are media (soft influence) and military (hard power)
"US doesn't invade for oil....US invades when oil is not traded in dollars."
that's the truth. Saddam 1 month before the second gulf war stated that he wanted to sell oil for EUROS. fact.
sorry i have to fix it: 400 years
Mr.Boompi,
And why do we even care about Iran in the first place? Oil.
Bullshit,if we fought a huge land war,all their resources would never pay one DIME for our efforts.
Name one nation We have TAKEN complete control of,and stolen their resouces.You cannot.................And America doesn't count. Because there were no Americans here when the Europeans came to begin with, and the Native Indians, came for Europe, by way of a land bridge that used to be here.
Until they came, it was unihabited.
If China wants OIL, they can take it by force, and they can BUY it easier than anyone else......because they are wealthy.
$1 Trillion in mineral deposits in Afghanistan...wait the MSM didn't forcefeed you this info? I wonder why
Yeah, and believe me, the Chinese are the only ones mining there right now. But then again, it's probably all part of the master plan, right?
re. master plan.
No one said you were not stupid.
definitely not.
Indians got some nice agreement with Afghanistan to set it's own mines
Pitiful ignorance from start to finish.
Yeah, every once in a while you stumble into the EVERYBODY'S A FUCKING DUMBASS thread. Cya
Well......I junked you. One real quick question here. Just how many countries has Iran fucked with over the last 200 years????? Now....how many has Israel? Us "jew haters" seem to have this one figured out quite nicely. The group you speak of is not way up on my list, but Zionist assholes are right there in the top two. Why don't you figure out a way to shut your Nutty-yahoo boy up. He seems to be the one screaming for war.
Let me ask you one quick question, how many nukes have been used for war in the past 70 years?
Who the fuck cares if Jews are aloud to have their own small country in the region they came from? Do you begrudge them that? Israel hasn't been around very long and hasn't started any wars. Iran has been equipping and aiding terrorists around the world since they overthrew the Shah.
This is going to be fun!!!
Where the fuck does the nuke question even fit in here?? BTW, Iran is building POWER STATIONS. Did-ya get that? I'll repeat it, POWER STATIONS. They have every right to have them and they have played by ALL the rules as far as inspections go. Now to their desire to have nuke weapons..... THEY SURE THE FUCK "DO" HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE NUKES! I sure as hell would want them, knowing that most evil of countries, Israel is gunning for them and everybody else in the whole region. It won't be an Iranian making that decision to "push the button." It'll be a jew. Lose a fist fight, run inside and grab a gun, shoot your opponent. Yep..... that's they way it works over there.
It seems to me that jews were "placed" there after WWII. And really....does the blood line actually run back to Abraham? Maybe, just maybe the actual blood line runs back to eastern Turkey which would be an entire different group of folks altogether. So, do the jews REALLY belong in Palestine? Well....... they have certainly made that land their own by pretty much murdering the people who DO belong there.
Iran has what??????? Brainwashing doesn't work here boy. I pretty much give that award to Israel. How much death around the whole world can be attributed to them. If our media wasn't controlled. We really WOULD know and Israel would be no more.
LOL, and North Korea only wanted "Power Stations" too right?? And Iran wants these power stations because their huge oil and gas energy deposits are sooo expensive for them. But lil Hitler said they aren't for the bomb, so the West must be stupid enough to believe that, right?
I think Adolph also said Germany was satisfied after the Sudetenland and czechoslovakia, right? No one could have seen the huge list of country's they invaded after the lies.
"Power Stations" -you crack me up!
Why bother......I'm trying to reason with an idiot. I thought jews were "supposed" to have high IQ's? I guess that was a lie also.
Scurry along little guy.....find somewhere to post that you think people might actually believe you. Your shit DOES stink here.
No, I really don't think you speak for all of Zerohedge.
Iran opened up oil exchange to attract Jewish traders.
When Iran has bunch of rich Jews, how can Israel attack Iran?
Also, they need some blacks working shitty jobs in Iran so that they can tell Obama not to nuke hard working "brothers".
You don't go against big boys head on when you have the weak hand. You take the weakest link and make them your hostage to leverage your power.
you forgot to mention that there is a part of ultra-orthodox jews that want to see Israel destroyed.
Who are you to tell someone not to post on ZH? Why don't YOU go somewhere else with your Jew hating comments? There are plenty of anti-semetic websites out there for the likes of you.
ZH is the best venue for anti-Zionist to converse.
We aren't anti-Semitic.
We love Palistinians!
Enriching uranium to more than 20% IS NOT for civilian purpose. fact.
and they already reached the 27% of enrichment. fact.
http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/
Research shows Israelis are actually Polacks!
Let them go back to their homeland: Krakow, Poland!
Sorry--you were ahead of me with the two century factoid. One hopes to silence the increasingly louder drumbeat for war. Press on, amigo!
my guesstimation is that US economy will be 10x worse within 3 months of any bomb dropping. It is probably the plan by our dear leaders
Jews have uncanny ability to destroy them self after every few years. They have done it 212 times before. What is the probability of doing it again for the 213 time?
100%
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/HistoryJewishPersecution/
Joos just move from one civilization to another....by the time Joos come to your country, the country is already past the golden era and is near the peak...because elites only "let" Joos in when shits about to get worse like American elites let half black guy become president when empire is crumbling.By the time Joos make it to the top, game is near the end, so Joos end up cheating and later take the downfall.
I have a simple explanation. Jews move where the wealth is. Steal that wealth. Get their ass kicked.
I don't really think they destroy themselves, they are destoyed. Why? Because Jew hating is part of Christianity. Actually, it is rooted in it based on the presumption that "the Jews killed our saviour Jesus Crhist" (it were the Romans that did the actual killing however). Martin Luther was an anti-semite and so was Calvin. During WWII many mainly Catholic but also Protestant and Orthodox priest raised their right arm and actively participated in the persecution of Jews. Also the grand mufti of Jerusalem participated as well as muslem militias in Bosnia. The pope never spoke out against the persecuation of Jews and the Catholic church was very instrumental in letting Nazis escape to Latin America. The world apparently needs a scapegoat. Religion caused nothing but trouble to the world.
I'll let you in on a revelation into the psychology of being Jewish - Jews tend to *thrive* when they are hated/reviled.
Their identity as a people is strengthened (against them goyim) and it keeps their minds sharp overcoming obstacles - if there are no obstacles, well, why not create some to keep things lively!
I'm convinced Jews actually go out of their way and tend to set up situations which will lead to them being hated/reviled. In simplistic terms, "they are their own worse enemy" but the dynamics are much more complex than that...
I am not jewish but have known a fair number of Jews (a number of whom I deeply respect), and have heard this from many of them...
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Ahmadinejad is on crack with this statement, BUT, we're talking about a region where the people know how to endure the pain of inflation, sanctions, etc. so it's not an even comparison between what we'd do if we were (or are, depending on how you look at it) in their position.
One big difference between Iran and USA is that Iranian people have every thing they own is "Paid off".
Iran is epicenter of old Persian Empire.
empire builders know other empire when they see one.....
they are not some fringe country whose owners change with the seasons.
Yep, you are partially correct, they are but they can become one of the others real quick.
Start a war with Israel, and you will see.
Why the down arrows?,if Israel gets cornered, they will use their own, and with approx 10 million population, surrounded by 1.2 billion Arabs,and Persians who want them gone do not assume they will not do whatever it takes to eliminate that threat.
In truth, except for world opinion, they could have already taken Iran completely off the planet already.
They really do not need our help to do it.They just want us for political cover.
Israel is old british empire's strategy in dividing oil rich middle east into two factions for easier control.
Best thing for Israel is to unite their banking and tech with Iranian oil and tech. but nooooo.....egos get in the way and they are both under control by british, russian, american, chinese puppet masters. UN security council vote holders are true enemy of zionists. but their greed is being exploited by old empire rulers.
iran doesn't say they want to wipe out russia or china or france or US....they say they want to bomb Israel.
I don't understand people like you who seem to like Israel so much. It's like the monster of Frankenstein, it's an abomination and shouldn't exist. They still cry about the holocaust (which was horrible btw), yet do the same to the Palestinians. They threaten peaceful countries like Iran with destruction, while claiming it's the opposite. Israel is a problem and the world would be better off without it. Any person who's not a sock puppet or a brainwashed tool understands this.
You cannot really compare the holocaust with what is happening to the Palestinians. The scale and the horror are not of the same magnitude. The Palestinians btw. all voted for Hamas instead of Fatah. Hamas declared war on Israel so effectively Israel is at war with the Palestinians. For years Hamas has fired rockets into Israel. I don't think that the US for instance would accept if Mexico would do that. We all know that the US revenge would be very bloody.
And those "bottle rockets" do what? Well..... they hit in open fields with no casualties, BUT............ they're an excuse to go ahead and "claim" it was those damn Muslims. BAM!!!! Right off the bat, the IDF get's the excuse to waste some more innocent people. RIGHT ON!!!!!
Please stop the lies...... I think most "non-brainwashed" people can see right through them.
perhaps the manner is different but the goal it's the same
Samson option. Believe it will happen because it will, first Jericho will be sailing towards Moscow.
What if Moscow had that covered??
A nation bankrupted once knows when and why another nation can go bankrupt. A Russian economist said about USA will in 2012.
Loading up to print more cake bitches!
"Let them eat Yellowcake".
I'm getting a feeling that the sanctions are there...to prevent Iran from offering a bailout.
The sanctions are there to make the average Iranian's lives difficult and to hopefully goading them into war..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfoaLbbAix0
no need, israeli strike imminent
Mind you i have a feeling it hasn't happened coz it will push GCC and other Israeli neighbours closer to Iran
Israel's got problems of her own right in the country....
young are protesting against old fucks like NathanYahoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8u8cjS-TiM
"People who are suffering are middle class. The people that are working, have education, want to raise families." - Joowish women in Israel.
sound familiar?????
I recall the Treasury selling the Shah's Gov't the exact same printing press used to print US currencies shortly before the revolution. Iran can make all of the Franklins they want
Considering suicide is the number 1 killer in the US........they are also miserable. Death to the elite. LOL, that sounded like the iranian guys comment.
elites are usually most miserable because they fear the truth will leak out...that they have little legitemacy except luck.
Yup, shows they are at least 6 inflation and CPI revisions behind the US.
To be fair to Iran, being cut off from the dollar system - which I told decision makers there earlier this year was the best thing that could happen to them - has pulled the rug from under the Riyal.
So they'll have to base the Riyal on something else. I'm sure the consensus here on ZH will be gold, but my recommendation was an Energy Standard.
Please illuminate us with your ideas on that,preferably not by the light of increasingly
depleting reserves of fossil fuels.
increasingly
depleting reserves of fossil fuels.
You actually believe that is happening?, may be elsewhere,but ther is WAY more fossil fuel on this rock,(in the USA) than anyone dares to dream.
The USA copuld be 100% energy independent ANYTIME we want, if the Jerkoffs would get the hell out of our way.(read Progressives,and PETA, and the nutjobns that keepius from tapping known massive quanities of everything we need.).
All right.
Econimicaly viable reserves.
Bearing in mind demand destruction,let alone physical destruction.
Natural resources have been set aside as collateral for America's foreign debt obligations. "Progressives and PETA" and the National Park system are clever excuses to have us believe we have any right to that land.
If Iran decided to sell one barrel of oil for one new riyal, it will be US$95.37 today.
If Iran decided to sell one barrel of oil for one new riyal, it will be US$95.37 today.
Yeah, and if our dikheads in D.C. would allow us to use,drill, and explore where we know plenty is, WE could give a shit less.
But look at the full employment and the wealth all iranians now enjoy.
Funny to listen all the little US bitches cry over this guy. Not to worry, the US will be blowing him up shortly and starting ww3 possibly over a bunch more fucking lies. I hate the US.
I'm not a fan of the US either. But pray tell, what glowing beacon of transparancy do you live in?
whats transparancy got do with any of it?
You make the mistake of thinking "transparency" is everything. But transparency isn't even close to being everything. After exploring the world for better places to live (and moving to one of them 3 years ago), I found the following. In the world of today, every government is terminally corrupt. Sure, some less egregiously than others, but for practical purposes, all governments today are simply predators-gone-wild.
What actually matters most is... well... not obvious. It took me most of 5 years exploring different parts of the world before the patterns finally became obvious to me. And the results were a bit shocking at first, yet perfectly sensible after further thought.
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The first (and perhaps most important) observation is: do not live where you are citizen. At this point in history, essentially if not literally every predator-DBA-government in the world considers:
#1: citizens to be their slaves
#2: visitors as welcome spenders into their economy
Thus visitors are treated more like guests, while citizens are treated like cows to be milked for life, then sent to McDonalds to be eaten for lunch.
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Perhaps next most important is this. You want to live in the extreme boonies. Even if you decide to live in the USSA or other western crony kleptocracy, become self-sufficient and stay as far away from populated areas as you can. This favors all countries that have large expanses of utterly empty land (or as close as possible to utterly empty). And if that land is mountainous and geologically wild-and-crazy, all the better, because that makes it virtually impossible to find or track people, even if they wanted to.
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Next most important is the nature of the predators-DBA-government. This may be the most counter-intuitive of all parts. You do not want to live in a country that has the most liberty or individualism on paper (constitution or laws). That hardly matters at all at this point in history. In fact, this is a gigantic head-fake for everyone who falls for the head-fake and hangs around in predators-gone-wild-land with a sense of security, like those pieces of paper will somehow protect them.
The best places to be are where the government is super tiny because it is broke, and where the government is obsessed with some part of "everything". One very effective example of this is a poorish country in which some complete wacko-case you declares himself king... then proceeds to spend all his time, effort and focus on other wackos who want to screw him up and perhaps overthrow him. That's just perfect... IF... you are smart enough to stay far away from the capital city where all this activity naturally happens. Stay far away from the seat (or seats) of power, and don't go out of your way to make trouble. If you do, you'll be fine. Better than fine. And vastly better off than anywhere in the USSA. In these countries the cops (and the whole "government") is like the keystone cops --- completely clueless, incompetent, and mostly just happy to be collecting a paycheck. A great example of this kind of place is Fiji, where you can live on any of the 300 outlying islands and effectively be completely out of sight, out of mind, and out in the crystal clear water snorkeling through live coral reefs with tropical fish. And guess what? They have no property tax. Ding, ding, ding!
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So don't be so focused on one thing... transparency. Frankly, I think all governments on earth are 100% transparent in the way that counts. What I mean is, it is transparently obvious that they don't follow ANY laws or ANY ethics and they will do ANY thing they wish. As long as that is the case, transparency is irrelevant, but being far away from their attention span is quite relevant. And that's the key, isn't it?
The first (and perhaps most important) observation is: do not live where you are citizen. At this point in history, essentially if not literally every predator-DBA-government in the world considers:
#1: citizens to be their slaves
#2: visitors as welcome spenders into their economy
Thus visitors are treated more like guests, while citizens are treated like cows to be milked for life, then sent to McDonalds to be eaten for lunch.
And I agree 100%, because I AM one of those SO called citizens, and I see daily the Visitors, who spend nothing get treated better than Citizens.
So, this is no secret to some here.
My name is Daisy, and I get milked every hour, 24/7/365 1/4..........................................
I know, and I sympathize. But only you can drag your butt out of the USSA or where-ever the predators consider you a citizen. Is it scary? To many, yes. Is it an adventure? For many, yes. Is it worth doing? Absolutely!
Break down the gate and escape!
You can leave ya know.
Actually it's damn near impossible to do so legally for the average person, even if you are willing to accept a significant decrease in standard of living. Crossing boarders - easy peasy. Gaining the legal right to work in your new home - good luck. Opening a financial account - the IRS has made the US citizen the new leper.
But you can do it, and it is more worth it than you realize. I escaped 3 years ago, and only get happier as time passes. Yes, I admit that I was in a modestly better position to escape than most people, not having been suckered into the housing bubble-bust or extravagant living via debt. Nonetheless, it is better to escape, hands down. That is, unless you escape to somewhere stupid, like GB, EU... or North Korea!
PS: You don't need a bank. And you don't want a bank. If you can't understand it is stupid to sanction, support and trust your assets to the most vile, evil, criminal scumbags on planet earth, then you really can't look out for yourself... in the USSA or anywhere else. Honestly, if you can't see it is smarter and better to hold all your assets in real, physical gold, silver, platinum and other real, physical goods (where only you know they are hidden), then you might as well get used to being a slave, because you're not fit to take care of yourself.
PS: If you want to have bank and credit card with only a few hundred bucks balance, that's still not smart, but at least they can't steal you blind or easily track your cash transactions. And you're not supporting their evil schemes by very much. But still, it is best to avoid having a bank account anywhere, most especially not in the country you live.
You do realise not everyone here is American, right? Probably not. You come off as one of those typical egocentrical characters who thinks everything revolves around the US.
AHMADINEJAD SAYS IRAN ECONOMY `CERTAINLY BETTER' THAN U.S., EU
Is this the insane blooper the MSM will run with as well?
If the commonality of western driven wars is to be used as a guide, then the FIRST reason for invading a country is to install a central bank controlled by the BIS syndicate. The secondary reason is to steal their resources and then you have the tertiary reason of eliminating general strength of other powers ... EVERYTHING ELSE IS A SMOKESCREEN!
Bartanist,
The secondary reason is to steal their resources
Uh, what have we stolen from ANY nation we have gone to war with?,or their resources.
Shit, we bomb them to hell, and rebuild it out of pocket, and then they sell their OIL to everyone but us.
While we leave nothing but thousands of dead, and maimed US soldiers........along with a few thousand or more locals.
IF we were a Colonial force, then Iraq would not be selling all their oil to China, and the USSR,and India.
US contractors do a lot of the jobs/infrastructure rebuilds but OUR country winds up footing the deals payoffs.
"IF we were a Colonial force, then Iraq would not be selling all their oil to China, and the USSR,and India."
You really need to stop and think before you post.
There is no USSR. It dissolved about what, 25 years ago? Worse, for you, Russia is the largest oil producer in the world and is not buying any Iraq oil at all, or from anyone else.
This destroys all your posts, prior and after.
There is no USSR. It dissolved about what, 25 years ago? Worse, for you, Russia is the largest oil producer in the world and is not buying any Iraq oil at all, or from anyone else.
This destroys all your posts, prior and after.
You think I am so ignorant that I actually did not know that? the USSR is not gone?,surely you jest.I said it on purpose,dude I was there when the bitch came down.
And, so if I got one of 3 incorrect,maybe I should have put France,or Japan,(not that you prove they do not buy any) it invalidates all my posts?.........thank you god.
NOT.
hahahahahaah and tell me, who rebuilt Iraq for bilions of dollars?
and do you know how much have to pay Iraq for the war in reparations? go and do some research, you might be surprised on how blind you've been til now
@Bartanist
The standard procedure is the takeover of invaded nation's central bank, installation of invading nation's corporations, supply of local market by invading nation's corporations, usurpation of invaded nation's resources for exportation by invading nation's corporations.
And in the case of Iran, it will be the second time this is happening, with the difference, of a present-time added bonus, that is the complete geopolitical dominance of Middle East, by US-influenced states, and the increased pressure on Russia by NATO vassals.
Their resources have been sold forward without invasion imminent, make no mistake.What makes this upcoming bounty really sweet is all that gold being exchanged for oil by now, the dogs of war licking and wetting themselves ...
Iran is sitting on the second largest, producing, oil reserve.
America is sitting on 16 trillion dollars in debt.
I vote for Iran being financially solvent and the USA bankrupt!!!
Iran collects gold bars for there oil.
The USA gives our gold to pay our debt and manufactures gold plated tungsten, worthless lies, to give back to the Treasury.
Duhhhhhh! Americans are idiots!
- Barack Insane Obamao
Captain Insano says: "Show no mercy"!!!!
That feeling you get deep down in your stomach thinking your country was the"good guys" all your life only to wake up and find out it wasn't.......yeah that feeling.
I've relatively recently awakened to that feeling. It sucks.
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. - Patrick Henry
Didn't you get some sort of a hint as a kid when you learned there were already people here when the Pilgrims landed?
Yeah, I was one of the "good guys". Stacked up bad guys like chord wood. One of the good guys, until I wasn't a good guy any more. But as MOTHER said in FMJ.... "Better him then me"....I can live with a guilt complex. Just saying.
Why do you want to ?...live with a guilt complex that is??.
ISRAELI EMBASSY IN NYC A RADIATION HOT SPOT
http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/22798.php
http://holywar.org/jewishtr/
dum dee dum.
Caution ... enormous OT Civil War diversion dead ahead.
Please note the players.
So far, the dumbest fucking posts I've read on ZH have been regarding the civil war. But the pro-Iran crowd now takes the cake. The US certainly has its problems, but not a single motherfucker in here would trade what we have for Islamic law.
Junk away dumb fucks....
Let me guess: in your eyes, Lincoln was a "hero" who "saved the Union" and "abolished slavery", right?
LOL
Fuck you asshole. I'm capable of seeing things as the complex situations they are. Lincoln just happened to be the one in office when the shit went down. When hundreds of thousands of people decide they want to start shooting each other, who is going to stop them?
Outside of a relative handful of sociopaths, "people" generally do not decide to "start shooting each other" --- it is governments which make that decision. And in the case of the Civil War, it was manifestly the traitor and tyrant Lincoln who made the decision to start a war, instead of letting the South peacefully secede as they wished and had every right to do. So fuck Lincoln, and fuck you too.
hear hear!
But only the winners write the history.
winner never stays winner
Bullshit. All the farmboys from where I live signed up looking for glory or to fight a cause (a worthy one in my opinion- to oppose the enslavement of a people). Then the reality of war set in. No government made them. I certainly wouldnt have fought the black man's war or gone looking for glory....
You act as if people were peaceful before there was government. Bullshit. The natural state of man is violent and brutish.
And by the way, the South would be a third world country now if if had successfully seceded. Free labor = no incentive to innovate. FoxConn would be in Alabama instead of China...
That's quite dubious. Don't you remember king cotton? The South made mad gold and silver selling their crops to the North, England, and Europe. And I dare say their government would have less regulations, less size, and no central bank.
The South made mad gold....correction, Southern aristocrats. The wealth disparity in the pre-Civil war South (even among whites) makes our current situation look like a communist utopia...
The South made mad gold....correction, Southern aristocrats. The wealth disparity in the pre-Civil war South (even among whites) makes our current situation look like a communist utopia...
Again I call Bullsit, the North had ALL the factories except farming.
After the Emanciapation Proclimation, the blacks suffered far more than before.
The Yank blacks the worst,over 500,000 died from starvation and disease from no work, and no way to make a living.
Also US Grant, kept SLAVES, as slaves for TWO friggin years after the War ended.
A ton of balcks went BACK to the south to their old homes, former owners looking for work,food,shelter and decent treatment.
The Yanks treated them far worse than the Southerners did.
Not many had the fancy plantations, and got wealthy off their backs.
You're right, your're right. Black people had it better as slaves. They hate Lincoln and think the Emancipation Proc was the worst thing that ever happened to them...
Jesus H Christ man, pull your fucking head out of your ass.....
You're right, your're right. Black people had it better as slaves. They hate Lincoln and think the Emancipation Proc was the worst thing that ever happened to them...
Jesus H Christ man, pull your fucking head out of your ass.....
If this was to me, my head isn't Up my ass.If you read the post, I said if the South had won, then slavery would have eventually went away, regardless.
The ONLY reason for the E P by Lincoln was a POLITICAL move, the Europeans were coming to the aid of the South, with $ and aid, he KNEW he had to do something to KEEP them from doing it, or they would have lost.
Yeah, they like Martin Luther King better. MLK did soooooooooooooooo much for the betterment of the average American....SARC OFF
And that, sir, is where we cross swords, your idea of what the south was, is some northerner bullshit.
You would have been one of those poor, dumb whites who died for a decaying aristocratic institution on the promise of being a master yourself.... Fool...
Being ignorant is no crime, but if it were, buddy you would be locked up for a LONG time.
As for your cynical and idiotic statement "The natural state of man is violent and brutish", I can only surmise that you are generalizing based on self-reflection.
What history of the world are you reading. Be prepared to defend your shit or have it taken from you. That's what I learned from my books....
Spoken like a true REMF. Don't know shit but what SCHOOL taught ya. Now you catching on that maybe your education ain't so good????? Maybe???
i hope that Tyler will award you with "Most brainwashed from MSM guy"
The Civil War was fought over States rights vs. Federal supremacy - the slavery issue was a convenient populist topic that politicians of the day just stepped in front of and claimed for their own. FUCK YOU LINCOLN! Unfortunately for our children it was canonized into historical "fact" by revisionist historians whom also wrote school text books. Here is some real history to get you started, and not the propaganda you were taught in school.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/magazine/mag-03CivilWar-t.html?pagewan...
Hold on to your Confederate money boys - THE SOOOUTH IS GOING TO RISE AGAIN!!!
WE DIDN'T LOSE. WE ARE JUST REGROUPING!
Try buying a gun up in NY City! Ha!
Come on down and we can put a cap in your ass!
NYPD is a bunch of executioners!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/area-front-empire-state-building-closed-following-shooting-5-people
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/was-nypd-responsible-10-11-people-shot-yesterday
I say "Lay siege to Manhatten, blow up the bridges and tunnels and see how long they survive"
Then we will go to Galveston!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston_Movement
We can make anti-zionism an art form!!!!
If you want to be an Israeli we can send you there. Biacthz!
So your Northern Yankee mother phockers enslaved the south. Us southerners called your "civil war" the war of NORTHERN AGGRESSION, and that was exactly what it was.
"Northern Aggression" I bet you wouldnt call it that if the south had won. I'm sure you guys would have something thought up something way more glorious than that.....
"Northern Aggression" I bet you wouldnt call it that if the south had won. I'm sure you guys would have something thought up something way more glorious than that.....
SmackD,
The only reason the North won was industrialization, and the EP (used strictly for PC purposes),and like I said the knowledge the South was going to win, if Abe had not used that PC trump card, this country and it's values and mores , and it's Constitution and BOR's would still be basically intact.
Talk to anyone almost that was raised in the north, and has come here for extended visits, or moved here............90% would never go back.
Manners, and family values are still the backbone of most of the south.Don;t believe it, go to NYC,or Jersey.
Also, WHAT did/was the Founders intent, if they wanted a mandate that NO state had the right to secede,think they would not have put it in the docs?.
The South still is third world. I know, I live here.
Made so by the Yankees from up north and influx of Africans and Caribs. You ever hear of FLA being referred to as SOUTH JERSEY?????
The South still is third world. I know, I live here.
Yeah Mexico is a bitch...............
If you mean the South in the US, define the part, and I may agree to an extent, otherwise,your just stirring shit.
Texas is in the south, consider it 3rd world?.If you do your an idiot.
at least have you ever been to a third wolrd country?
I BET NO
You grossly oversimplify, only point at one aspect of reality and human nature, and pretend other aspects don't exist. That is intentionally disingenuous.
To be sure, mankind was almost entirely violent and brutish... if you go back far enough (perhaps 20,000+ years). At that point in history, the modus-operandi of mankind was indeed almost entirely that of predator, which is indeed violent and brutish.
But the fundamental story (and history) of mankind is the story of predator versus producer. This bifurcated nature of mankind probably began when some observant doofus noticed that fruit he burried for later retrieval grew into fruit trees --- fruit trees that contained vastly more fruit than he burried. He became the first human to become primarily a producer, not predator. He explained his discovery (production) to others, who recognized the many advantages of this modus-operandi... and adopted it.
Given the adundance of food these producers created, the human population of earth exploded... by hundreds, then thousands, then millions of times --- far beyond the population that could be supported by the natural processes of earth.
Though many humans gave up their predator ways and adopted the vastly superior modus-operandi of producer, not every human did.
Today, predators still exist. They are:
- predators-DBA-government
- predators-DBA-corporations
- predators-DBA-central-banks
- predators-DBA-organizations (of various kinds)
And, of course, common criminals who rob neighborhood markets and banks.
To claim that humans are inherently predatory is wrong. Every human has a choice, and many choose producer. Unfortunately, the predators have taken control of every government, every large corporation, every central bank and every large organization at this point in history. Question: What should humans expect when they create, sanction and support blatantly insane fictions with astronomical powers? Answer: Those who are the most vile, evil, vicious predators will stop at nothing to gain control of those fictions. And so they have.
But this does not mean humans are inherently violent and brutish. A very large minority if not a modest majority would rather be producers. Why? Because left alone, humans who live by production live a vastly better life than those who live by violence and brutish destruction (the predators). However, today we have a completely insane, completely artificial, completely unworkable (and therefore temporary) situation. Increasingly the fruits of producers labors are misdirected into the hands of predators. Therefore, the incentive to be a producer is falling, and falling quickly.
As a result, some producers decided to "join the [currently] winning team" and become predators themselves. Other producers decided to evade [as best they can] the scams erected by the predators to enslave them and bleed them dry. Other producers decided to "give up" and collect foodstamps and welfare until the system collapses (sometimes under the premise they are helping exhaust and destroy the predator system).
But the notion that "the natural state of mankind is violent and brutish" is WRONG.
That is NOT the natural state of mankind, and in fact, it cannot work in the long run, because the natural processes of earth do not produce sufficient goods to support the survival of mankind in anything remotely like its current numbers. At least 99.9999% of mankind must perish for man to return to a predator modus-operandi.
No, the natural state of man is to CHOOSE.
You and many others may choose to be violent and brutish. Yes indeed. But you won't ever convince those of us who understand the nature of man to become like you. It is not our nature, because we CHOOSE so.
In the end, those of us who choose to be honest and produce will leave this planet. Or if predators destroy everything first, man will cease to exist. That's their modus-operandi, and indeed, they might succeed. Let's just hope we leave before predators destroy everyone on this planet.
Tell that to the Irish who lived in Five Points that rioted for a week, had their homes burned by Union soldiers when Lincoln imposed his draft during martial law!
Lying Yankee queer scumbag!
I need an anarchy key on my computer.
I second your motion!!!!!!
My people have been in Virginia for over 200 years and I can't spit without hitting a carpet bagger come down here to pick the remaining flesh off the carcass!
Fuck Lincoln and the train he rode in on!!!!!!
Why do we put up with those Manhatten Yankee Queer Joohs?
I say "kick Manhatten out of the Union and let them carry their own weight!!!!"
They would be nothing without the South!
Worthless bunch of leeches living in a cesspool!
Let me guess: in your eyes, Lincoln was a "hero" who "saved the Union" and "abolished slavery", right?
The war of Northern aggression, is EXACTLY why we are screwed today as a nation.It was started over staes rights............pure and simple.
If the South had won, slavery would have been eventually doen away with, but we would still be the America the founders intended.
It these state's rights idiots that I'm referring to. We can all agree that certain human rights trump state rights, correct. You cant be against 'federal' oppression but in favor or 'state' oppression.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MRmxfLuNto
i want to give you a friendly advice. most enlightened zh'ers already did it.
please turn off the television.
reading your posts it's quite clear that all your "knowledge" (if we can call it knowledge) comes for MSM.
Also a 70 year note left over from the American Revolutionary War owed to England which the Republic could not pay. It seems King George loaned money to the rebels fighting his own troops! The 8 southern states balked and walked out of Congress when told they had to ante up their public lands to secure additional funding, as the public lands of the original 13 colonies were already pledged to secure the original note.
Seems people always fight over money, the root of all evil.
fuck you again AHMADINEJAD
<see earlier rant this morning>