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All Your Private Data Are Belong To Obama

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When it comes to spying, eavesdropping on its citizens as well as the complete invasion of American privacy, the first thing that comes to mind is the Patriot ACT and Dubya. And with good reason: because while the rest of the world may "hate us for our freedoms", they certainly love us for the fact that the NSA usually can autocomplete sentences before they are written in any electronic medium (recall: NSA Whistleblower Speaks Live: "The Government Is Lying To You"). However, as it turns out that the first thing that should be coming to mind is none other than the current administration and Barack Obama. Here are the facts: as the ACLU reveals using documents released by the Justice Department following months of litigation, "federal law enforcement agencies are increasingly monitoring Americans’ electronic communications, and doing so without warrants, sufficient oversight, or meaningful accountability." How "increasingly"? Look at the chart below and decide.

From the ACLU: Between 20909 and 2011 "the number of people whose telephones were the subject of pen register and trap and trace surveillance more than tripled. In fact, more people were subjected to pen register and trap and trace surveillance in the past two years than in the entire previous decade."

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

This is how Uncle Sam spies on you:

Pen register and trap and trace devices are powerfully invasive surveillance tools that were, twenty years ago, physical devices that attached to telephone lines in order to covertly record the incoming and outgoing numbers dialed. Today, no special equipment is required to record this information, as interception capabilities are built into phone companies’ call-routing hardware.


Pen register and trap and trace devices now generally refer to the surveillance of information about—rather than the contents of—communications. Pen registers capture outgoing data, while trap and trace devices capture incoming data. This still includes the phone numbers of incoming and outgoing telephone calls and the time, date, and length of those calls. But the government now also uses this authority to intercept the “to” and “from” addresses of email messages, records about instant message conversations, non-content data associated with social networking identities, and at least some information about the websites that you visit (it isn't entirely clear where the government draws the line between the content of a communication and information about a communication when it comes to the addresses of websites).

This is how Uncle Sam has been spying on your more in the past three years than ever before:

Electronic Surveillance Is Sharply on the Rise

The reports that we received document an enormous increase in the Justice Department’s use of pen register and trap and trace surveillance. As the chart below shows, between 2009 and 2011 the combined number of original orders for pen registers and trap and trace devices used to spy on phones increased by 60%, from 23,535 in 2009 to 37,616 in 2011.


During the past two years, there has also been an increase in the number of pen register and trap and trace orders targeting email and network communications data. While this type of Internet surveillance tool remains relatively rare, its use is increasing exponentially. The number of authorizations the Justice Department received to use these devices on individuals’ email and network data increased 361% between 2009 and 2011.


The sharp increase in the use of pen register and trap and trace orders is the latest example of the skyrocketing spying on Americans’ electronic communications. Earlier this year, the New York Times reported that cellphone carriers received 1.3 million demands for subscriber information in 2011 alone. And an ACLU public records project revealed that police departments around the country large and small engage in cell phone location tracking.

Remember this:

My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government.  We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.


I direct the Chief Technology Officer, in coordination with the Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Administrator of General Services, to coordinate the development by appropriate executive departments and agencies, within 120 days, of recommendations for an Open Government Directive, to be issued by the Director of OMB, that instructs executive departments and agencies to take specific actions implementing the principles set forth in this memorandum. The independent agencies should comply with the Open Government Directive.


Barack Obama

Who knew that he was really telling the CTO to coordinate on the transparency and opepness of your emails.


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Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:50 | 2839489 Non Passaran
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Those fucking American (government) fascists!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:52 | 2839504 Abraxas
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Do you know of any benevolent governments still in existance? We get what we deserve.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:57 | 2839513 exi1ed0ne
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We actually get what we are willing to put up with.  Deserve has nothing to do with it.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:58 | 2839515 MillionDollarBonus_
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Say what you will, but this is going to be an increasingly useful tool going forward, with the rise of extreme right wing groups like the ‘sovereign citizens’ and ‘Oath Keepers’. The SPLC keeps a tab on extreme groups that threaten our government and banking system, but we need a more systematic way of monitoring them. Many of the Zerohedge readers display exactly the characteristics that would classify them as a threat to our government, namely a tendency to believe outlandish conspiracy theories involving the ‘Federal Reserve’ or the ‘CIA’. I have to shake my head at some of the conspiracy theories I see on this site. The magical thinking required to believe that respected politicians and central bankers are planning elaborate conspiracy to harm decent and ordinary Americans. I’m trying to be reasonable here, but I simply cannot understand this point of view.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:01 | 2839526 RSBriggs
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Here - you forgot this:  "/sarc"

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:10 | 2839562 redpill
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Dear stupid sheeple of America: who's a conspiracy theorist again?


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:15 | 2839587 Precious
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Oh it's probably much worse than you think.  

We already know Facebook has all the profiles.

Twitter has all the instant messages.

Google has all the personal search histories.

Look at Splunk - They have all the server logs.

Look at Disqus - They have all the comment logs.

And who controls these companies?


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:19 | 2839601 Ahmeexnal
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Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:27 | 2839636 I am more equal...
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They've changed my hope

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:34 | 2840006 AssFire
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It's simple:

Monitoring is up due to all the free Obama phones...

Gangs and drug dealers love the mobility;

even great for youths to coordinate their flash mobs.

Thats empowerment!


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:01 | 2840082 sessinpo
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You know I rant against liberalism and I am certainly not an Obama or democrat supporter but you should know the facts.

That cell phone program was established under Reagan. It has sence been continually expanded.


This is just an example of why I rant against the socialism ideology because it infects both parties. It's about time more people wake up, and that includes those on the right, to understand just because you are a republican or conservative, doesn't mean you aren't a socialist.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 18:51 | 2840367 Precious
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Who's disagreeing with that.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 19:06 | 2840386 Votewithabullet
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Raygun started a cell phone program?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 20:42 | 2840595 Umh
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He started a phone program. Of course it is harder to coordinate the flash mob with land lines.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 21:02 | 2840629 Rahm
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Wed, 10/03/2012 - 08:39 | 2851345 sessinpo
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No, actually it was started in 1934 under the telecommunications act. But it was expanded under Reagan when cell phones were growing.  I say it started under Reagan for the reason that cell phones weren't in existence in 1934. But Reagan and other republicans did nothing to stop it. It became another liberal socialized program that BOTH parties advanced.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 19:01 | 2840383 UGrev
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Hmm.. just a minor correction. Reagan started a program for free phones in homes. There weren't any cell phones back then that were readily accessible by the public... :D 

Wed, 10/03/2012 - 08:57 | 2851393 sessinpo
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Hmm.. just a major correction via



"In 1987, the FCC adopted Link Up America, designed to help low income households pay the costs of connection and installation."

Source: MTS and WATS Market Structure, and Amendment of Part and Establishment of a Joint Board, Report and Order, 286, 2 FCC Rcd 2953 (rel. May 19, 1987), Memorandum Reconsideration, 3 FCC Rcd 4543 (rel. July 12, 1988).

Under "Universal Mechanisms" -

Congress decided that for telephone services provided a vital link for emergency services. Cell phones were included.

Cell phones have been in existence since 1983. In fact, hand held radio receivers have been in existence prior to the 1950s. The first analog cellular network was introduced in 1978. Digital came in the 1990s and Satellite came later.


However, the point of my orginal post was that despite one calling themself conservative and for small government, social programs like these grow and expand. And it did under Reagan. Since cell phones were starting to become big during Reagan's presidency and Reagan and republicans did nothing to stop the expansion of this program, I stand by my original post.

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 08:39 | 2841320 Go Tribe
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The point is that it's increased incredibly under the kenyan. Who cares when it started. Oh and BTW for the brotherly monitors: fuck obama and the government.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:49 | 2840216 nmewn
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ObamaPhone...gawwwd it never gets old.

And they're "free"

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:17 | 2839799 Yes We Can. But...
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"Who controls these companies?"

I give up.  Who?  The Gubmint?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:24 | 2839974 krispkritter
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Wonder what this will look like on the 'Daily ZH Terrorist Report'? Hellooooooo Jaaaaaannnnnnet!



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Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:45 | 2840202 nmewn
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Anthrax...I don't know, I just like saying

Well O'Barry did yap a lot about we know who's transparency.

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 16:13 | 2842007 Precious
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Who am I, your fucking mother?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:02 | 2839529 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!!  Remind us all what government agency you troll for again?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:06 | 2839544's picture

Liberty or death. Track that.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:24 | 2839617 LawsofPhysics
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Correct.  MDB is clearly a government troll, don't think I have seen a faster down arrow.  Yes indeed, it is really about power and control, always has been. the kleptocrats, fascists, and sociopaths lose all their power when people can take care of themselves.  Inflation is fucking theft.  So is taxation, but with the latter at least you know who is imposing the tax and can get in the face of your representative or local politician.  And sometimes the money actually goes to fix the damn street, imagine that.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:33 | 2839653's picture

MDB is just playing with folks. Classic hit and run troll who leaves a provocative message and rarely responds to the inevitable replies. He may or may not be acting in a Swiftian manner but I care for neither his posts nor the endless replies. It's dull and it's a waste of time.

MDB, why not be yourself? You're obviously intelligent and have a way with words. Some honest discussion with you may be enjoyable.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:21 | 2839794 10mm
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p>No,Million Dollar Blowjob is a plant.SPLC,now that is a recommended accurate description.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 19:04 | 2840391 UGrev
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he's a honey potter. don't respond to him. the replies are just recorded to help track who's the enemy and who's not.  

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:44 | 2839700 Bob
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Look what I ran across on the internet this morning:

Let Your Life Be a Friction to Stop the Machine

Only 22 minutes, crisp HD, and as good as The Corporation.  Most interesting. 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:05 | 2840093 sessinpo
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I would surmise he is a lone wolf. Government is corrupt but not stupid. And those that think that government is stupid aren't realizing that the apparently stupid stuff being done is on purpose. They just haven't figured out the reason "yet."

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:02 | 2839530 THECOMINGDEPRESSION

All numbskulls should watch this most amazing vid:

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:14 | 2839584 Skateboarder
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Fantastisch! lol at people thinking they're awesomely social when they've exposed their entire POS life on the internets for anyone to pick through. Most everyone's got their head up their arse these days and they think their little shiny gadgets make them popular, invincible, modern, etc...

You're all a bunch of dumb agrarians who don't know how to farm anymore!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:20 | 2839606 Timmay
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No Facebook, no Twitter, no Network marketing B.S. But on Zerohedge I am KNOWN as Timmay!!!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:43 | 2839712 crusty curmudgeon
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This has amazed me for years and I still marvel at it, but it's the way it is: 

Most people couldn't care less about their privacy.  They would sell their life's story for a Big Mac, as someone once put it.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:03 | 2839534 iDealMeat
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You're right...  Buildings do just free fall into their own foot print from small fires..


no conspiracy there..

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:17 | 2839593 MillionDollarBonus_
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There is a simple explanation for this. It wasn't the simply heat of the fire that melted the steal and caused the building to collapse. The shaft of the building created a giant chimney, trapping the heat and creating extraordinary temperatures. As a result, the steel structure melted, and the building collapsed. But I suppose, the conspiracy theorists are never satisfied with simple explanations. There always has to be a reason why the 'government' is behind it.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:29 | 2839640 Nehweh Gahnin
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How much Koolaid do you go through in a day?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 18:54 | 2840375 Precious
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Just leave the munchkin of Mayberry alone.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:43 | 2839708 HROLLER
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So, never in the history has a steel building collapsed from fires, but on that day 3 did. Interesting... Other Fires In Steel-Structure Buildings

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:49 | 2839732 misnomer
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So I should prepare for the imminent collapse of my house because of the heat from the chimney on my woodstove? 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:59 | 2839757 WonderDawg
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So how you digging your FB position these days, bro? Itching to tell your grandkids how smart you were? LOmuthafuckinL.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:20 | 2839803 stant
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mdb is a auto responce algo they couldnt find a use for, so they put it on zh. the author was paid a mill in zimbabwe dollars and taxed at the french rate

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:33 | 2839827 LongBalls
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I think I get what MDB is doing here. Gov. programs have a hard time picking up on human sarcasm if at all. Thus MDB get's his point across while staying off the radar by the data collectors. This would be a great strategy provided it were not so cowardly. What say you MDB?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:59 | 2840077 Umh
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I'm inclined to think his function is to aggravate people into doing something stupid. That's how the government types prefer to work in recent years. It seems that actually catching bad guys is a lot of work so they entrap the stupid which is a great deal easier.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:36 | 2839834 analyzer_66
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Nano-Thermite Bitchez !

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:48 | 2839873 HROLLER
Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:16 | 2840121 Bob
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Energy weapon.  Yeah, it's crazy, but it's the best analysis I've seen yet:

Sun, 09/30/2012 - 23:00 | 2844045 omniversling
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'molecular disassociation'

Sun, 10/21/2012 - 01:00 | 2907362 MeelionDollerBogus
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there was no such pressure, no such flow, no such chimney effect, not recorded at all. In fact the big wide open holes from airplane impacts to WTC 1 and 2 show smoke leaving without much pressure and fires subdued over time because they were going out. People literally standing in the open holes, not on fire, no dying of smoke inhalation. No conspiracy, just the facts.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:05 | 2839543 crusty curmudgeon
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There is hope for all of you.  This time, I saw the green dollar sign and didn't read this troll's post.  It takes a conscious effort but you can do it too.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:15 | 2839585 RSBriggs
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Yeah, I know he's just a troll.  I'll take extra effort to skip his BS next time.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:14 | 2839580 duo
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MDB, when 1/3 of the country is syping on or standing guard over the other two thirds, this will be a great place to live, won't it?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 19:46 | 2840488 jumbo maverick
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When one half of the country is paying for the other half of the country this will be a great place to live wont it?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:14 | 2839583 magpie
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By now the surveillance isn't really worth it, the alphabet agencies only run into their own manufactured bullshit.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:17 | 2839594 Dr. Engali
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"Respected politicians and central bankers" ........I can't stop laughing over that one.

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 16:28 | 2842039 mkkby
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I'm still laughing at "melted the steal".

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:18 | 2839599 illyia
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Ahem... Mr. Big bucks, but aren't your respected politicians and central bankers the very people who are about to drive us over a "Fiscal Cliff"?

I do not need to be a Conspiracy Theorist to think that. All I have to do is turn on the nightly news...


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:26 | 2839613 JOYFUL
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As usual, MDB, your observations are right on the money. I for one, really appreciate the time you take to get across hard truths to a hostile audience. What amazes me most is the patience you must have to keep up the razor sharp drolleries and trenchant observations in the face of those who constantly manage to mistakenly pin pejorative descriptions onto an outstanding effort to convey opinions that mainstream alternative blogs continue to ignore at peril to the common good.

That you can do so, day in and day out, with good humor, and nary a slip up or a sloppy sentence, is a tribute the inner decency and dedication of ordinary Americans, who in this time of troubling assault on their freedoms by a plethora of enemies, domestic and otherwise, desperately need examples of common sense wisdom from sources such as yourself.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:35 | 2839661 A Lunatic
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Perfect. +1

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:43 | 2839709 forwardho
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Hear, hear Joyful. I also see MDB for the brilliant satirist that he is. It takes profound understanding of events to turn them around and into parody. If you wish to "see" MDB, add a big NOT at end of every sentence.  Not enough critical thinking going on here.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:58 | 2839756 crusty curmudgeon
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Ah, yes.  Well, if it's profound understanding, you can understand why I missed it.

It never ceases to amaze me how the most incompetent among us have the biggest heads.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:04 | 2839912 tenpanhandle
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thats quite a conspiricy theory ya got going there, @forwardho

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:10 | 2839777 q99x2
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Arrest Obama under NDAA for treason.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:01 | 2839846 The Continental
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MDB (Moldy Dick Breath?):

You have to be a ZH put up actor, here to stir the pot and generate debate. No one could be as dimwitted and obtuse as you. If you are for real, then I extend my sympathies on your missing chromosomes.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:26 | 2839979 Slightly Insane
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Mdb,   jUST WTF DO YOU DO (professionally)?    Why are you on this website?   What state do you live in?

I cannot understand how someone who is so far in left field can find purpose commenting on anything on this site.

Do you know where you are?  (tell me dude, do you even own a gun?)

You should be on Huffpost, or some other lefty site.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:20 | 2840127 Bob
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Even there, there would be somebody who just don't get it. 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:50 | 2840048 NidStyles
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It's not magical thinking, it's just thinking. You know that thing that so few others do.

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 06:53 | 2841261 BadKiTTy
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MDB!!! Excellent.... you are back on form 



Sat, 09/29/2012 - 07:07 | 2841271 BeetleBailey
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I’m trying to be reasonable here, but I simply cannot understand this point of view.

There's a whole BUNCH of stuff you can't understand., Mr. High Delta Puts.

Try logging on to FartBook and ask your lone friend, RoboTrader.

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 07:42 | 2841289 Ljoot
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Those websites I accidentally visited during the boating accident.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:02 | 2839531 Gully Foyle
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And I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair share of abuse
Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration
If we don't we're gonna blow a 50-amp fuse"
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you just might find
You get what you need

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:09 | 2839552's picture

Hey! Think the time is right for a palace revolution,
'Cause where I live the game to play is compromise solution.
Well then what can a poor boy do ,
Except to sing for a rock 'n' roll band ,
'Cause in sleepy London town
There's no place for a street fighting man.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:34 | 2839656 Schmuck Raker
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Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:

Big Brother is coming to town

He's making a list,
He's checking it twice,
He's gonna find out
who's naughty or nice.

Big Brother is coming to town

He sees you when you're sleeping,
He knows when you're awake.
He knows when you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!

Big Brother is coming to town

So...You better watch out,
You better not cry
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why.

Big Brother is coming to town....Bitchez

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:59 | 2839758 Hippocratic Oaf
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Santa, Santa................say it ain't so, Santa!!!


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:36 | 2839665 magpie
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Well, I wake in the morning
Fold my hands and pray for rain
I got a head full of ideas
That are drivin’ me insane
It’s a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor
I ain’t gonna work on Maggie’s farm no more

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:56 | 2840064 sessinpo
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Benevolent government is an oxymoron. But I agree with you. Up arrow.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:12 | 2839570 lemonobrien
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puts dis nigga on da list. check it twice.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:05 | 2839770 azzhatter
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If you are reading this, Fuck You Barry Soetero

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:47 | 2840207 Cloud9.5
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The only reason any of us are still alive is that we don't matter.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:50 | 2839491 ParkAveFlasher
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Are you listening? Hold the phone closer.  Closer.  shhhh ....Real quiet....



Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:01 | 2839524 Dr. Richard Head
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My question is whether the Obamanites that opposed Bush's wiretapping efforts care now that their man is doing it?  Alos, do Bush supporters still give the "If you got nothing to hide" excuse now that the other side's man is using Bush powers Republicans didn't care about before?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:05 | 2839540 Gully Foyle
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Dr. Richard Head

I think it was Ted Rall who observed that Americans really don't likechange in government.

That we only elect those of similar ideation.

Congress has something like an 11% favorable rating but the majority will be returned to office by those who hate them.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:11 | 2839565 insanelysane
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11% favorability.  If you look at the Senate, people like the 2 senators from their state and a little bit of 1 other senator and hate the rest.  The same goes for the reps.  I love my reps but you need to change yours.


Also 89% love taxes on someone else but 89% taxes on them.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:14 | 2839577 CH1
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Congress has something like an 11% favorable rating but the majority will be returned to office by those who hate them.

Yup, and will continue to, all because of one evil thought: It is right for people to order me around.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:05 | 2839541 Dr. Engali
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As long as it's not the blue guy doing it they are fine with it....or is it the red guy? I'm so confused.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:06 | 2839546 ParkAveFlasher
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Whenever I get confused, I take the red pill.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:11 | 2839563 Dr. Richard Head
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I drink excessively.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:14 | 2839581 Yen Cross
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i-all of the above.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:15 | 2839586 CH1
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As long as it's not the blue guy doing it they are fine with it....or is it the red guy? I'm so confused.

So are they. :)

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:19 | 2839600 RSloane
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Think of it this way:

- Bush's Patriot Act - horrible terrible, infringment on our rights, disgusting.

Obama signing NDAA - thank God someone is watching out for terrorism, what a hero!

You could reverse it for the other party. Its all pathetic.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:25 | 2839621 Dr. Engali
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Thank you for clearing that up for me...for a minute there I thought it was Barack Obush's  fault....Or George Bushama's of the two.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:47 | 2839725 Dr. Richard Head
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My wife just called and told me that my Baritt Obomney for President yard sign came in today.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:49 | 2839731 RSloane
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Heh... If you think the excuse machine was in full throttle the last four years, wait until Obama's second term. You won't be able to think for all the noise.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:24 | 2839619 cougar_w
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I don't know about any "red" guy. But the blue "guy" is actually a blue girl, and she thinks this secrecy thing sucks:

I have another story line I never actually wrote up, where Fortran realizes she is being spied upon. Constantly spied upon, actually. And it pisses her off. That's not something you should be doing, pissing off a fire-slinging electro-death Archangel burdened with an overactive sense of fairness and justice.

Oh No! Now I will have to write it! There goes another Friday night shot to hell.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:31 | 2839644 Dr. Engali
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I'll save the link to read it later,,,there aren't any tracking devices to this page are there? ;->

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:37 | 2839669 cougar_w
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It doesn't matter so long as you use plenty of tinfoil.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:52 | 2839740 pods
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Tinfoil is conspiracy theory. Everyone knows the rays go right through tinfoil!

Now Mylar, that is 97% reflective.  :)


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:07 | 2840101 lakecity55
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Yes, a mylar electro-static bag over the head seems to work.

Leave some space for air to get in, or you will be in trouble.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:30 | 2840159 NidStyles
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Emergency survival blankets man. They are dirt cheap and will cover you completely.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:29 | 2840155 NidStyles
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"wraps himself in mylar emergency blankets and proceeds to start sweating immediately"


Is it hot in here or is it just me?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 20:50 | 2840600 Umh
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The tinfoil works better at least at blocking rfid.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:50 | 2839494 LMAOLORI
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And people scoffed when I posted this

The Road to Totalitarianism

Live and learn suckers

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:08 | 2839555 Gully Foyle
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I think you are confusing rigid dogmatism, which exists in all factions, with what you post.

It ain't left or right, it's those who are inflexible and narrowminded.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:35 | 2839657 cougar_w
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But but ... that other guy's dogmatism is more dangerous to freedom than mine is! Terrorists like that should be stopped at any cost.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:51 | 2839497 Abraxas
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We get that BO is no JC... Sooo, who would you like us to vote for?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:13 | 2839575's picture

Government can only acquire rights through the consent of the governed so why not exercise your own sovereignty by refusing to vote for the rule of con men and idiots?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:18 | 2839598 Abraxas
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Agree! The question was in response to the increasing number of articles bashing BO very close to the elections. I assume there’s an agenda here. That is all. By the way, I despise everything BO stands for.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:25 | 2839623's picture

I don't think ZH favors Romney. The Tylers appeared to like Mr. Paul and the two are not compatible. I think Obama gets discussed because he is the sitting POTUS and is likely to remain as such.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:26 | 2839802 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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+100. I wish I had more up votes to give. Voting = consent. Wake up and refuse to consent to your own oppression.

Imagine what would happen if only ~10% of the population turned out to vote. Goodbye to any legitimacy claimed by the "winner."

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 18:30 | 2840320 Parrotile
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If you consider Western political history in general, legitimacy of outcome related to the fraction of the population voting seems a minor (possibly insignificant) concern for the Powers that Be. As far as our "Rulers" are concerned, they couldn't really give a hoot as long as they get the outcome they want - so even if 1% or less vote, "Once they are in, they are IN", and able to happily follow their (of course unpublicised) REAL agenda.

Just waiting patiently to see how long it'll be before some event or other is used as an excuse to "temporarily, of course" suspend voting.

Because this WILL happen, and I suspect sooner rather than later . . . .

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 18:33 | 2840322 Parrotile
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Oops, double post!!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:16 | 2839591 fishmonger
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Chocolate Jesus maybe?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:13 | 2840114 sessinpo
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I really don't care who you vote for. I'd like to say I'm waiting for the liberals to get that BO is no prophet Mohammad. But I've got a life to live and you can't reach certain people.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:51 | 2839498 fightthepower
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Fuck you and your new world order!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:00 | 2839518 LMAOLORI
Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:17 | 2839556 dugorama
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You got to fight the power that be

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:17 | 2839595 CH1
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but how do you fight the power?

Tor or Cryptohippie.

They're not really for fighting the info-grab, but they will allow you to avoid it.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:53 | 2839507 RSloane
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I don't know if I should be worried or not. I'm not so sure they would put data up on a telepromter, false or not,  for Obama to read. It might confuse him.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:15 | 2839508 jjsilver
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“Internet a very large-scale spying machine” – John Young Cryptome co-founder
also here at youtube

Online Spying Guides

Microsoft Demands Takedown of Microsoft Spy Guide
Microsoft has Crytome we site shut down


They are acting outside their jurisdiction committing crimes against the people on the land.

Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution states:
"Congress shall have power to exercise exclusive legislation, in all cases whatsoever, over such district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States; and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings."
Very few Americans (including lawyers) know that federal legislative and territorial jurisdiction is very limited. It is limited to the ten square miles of Washington, DC, certain military bases where States have ceded jurisdiction, certain territories such as Puerto Rico and Guam, and certain guano islands.


Federal Jurisdiction

"A Cogent Summary of Federal Jurisdictions"
by Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.
Counselor at Law, Private Attorney General

     The  Accused  Common-Law  Citizen  [Defendant]  hereby
     places all parties and the court on NOTICE, that he is not a
     "citizen of  the United  States**" under  the so-called 14th
     Amendment, a  juristic person or a franchised person who can
     be compelled  to perform  to the  regulatory  Vehicle  Codes
     which are  civil in  nature, and  challenges the In Personam
     jurisdiction of  the Court  with this contrary conclusion of
     law.   This Court is now mandated to seat on the law side of
     its capacity  to hear  evidence of the status of the Accused


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:02 | 2839527 crusty curmudgeon
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Don't worry though--the GPS coordinates of all your homes will be protected.  The government says so:

Drones and GPS coordinates...what could go wrong?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:32 | 2839647 crusty curmudgeon
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Attention Spooks:

I did not click on the infowars link above.  In fact, I've never heard of that organization and it sounds very scary.  Please do not put a drone's missile through my front door.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:40 | 2839687 cougar_w
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What link? I don't see any link.

Nor do I remember anymore not seeing any link.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:34 | 2839829 MiltonFriedmans...
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Apparently, like MDB, they realize that the government is warm and cozy and there to protect and nurture us......

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 07:04 | 2841268 Esso
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The fact that anybody supports the use of drones in this country is troubling.

That's also why MDB's posts are so disturbing. While it may be brilliant satire on his part, his satire reflects the true beliefs of a very large portion of the Uhmerkkin population.

How could one justify this to the Founding Fathers of this country?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:56 | 2839512 Cognitive Dissonance
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All your freedoms are belong to us.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:08 | 2839548 Dr. Engali
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Tell me of this do you say it? free...freed.....freedom you speak of.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:17 | 2839596 Skateboarder
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It's this ancient theory that you can wipe your arse yourself instead of having some centrally planned goon wiping it for you with extra thorny TP.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:37 | 2839672 Metalredneck
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freedom-(noun) From the Mehrkan language, meaning distracted from reality to the degree that you feel you have some autonomy, or sovereignty over your life.  Usually counteracted with drugs, media, or involvement in politics.  Soon to be a dead word.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:57 | 2839514 Lost Wages
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Stop using electronic communications.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:09 | 2839557 cougar_w
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Stop posting unpatriotic and potentially criminal advice on public forums. /s

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:32 | 2839643 NewWorldOrange
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(deleted, brain fart)

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:43 | 2839706 cougar_w
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Heh. My bleak and corrosive humor must be hitting on all cylinders today.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:58 | 2839516 mckee
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At least I know that ZH isn't going to be monitored


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:18 | 2839597's picture

Do we care? Seems like most of us tend toward exhibitionism.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:00 | 2839753 NewWorldOrange
Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:19 | 2839961 crkennedymd
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+100 Nice link

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:35 | 2840171 NidStyles
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I don't care, heck I post the truth on facebook often. Let them watch me, that means they are spending less time annoying someone that can't handle the stress.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:59 | 2839517 Headbanger
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Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:00 | 2839521 pods
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It is for your protection.  It always is.

This should not be surprising for ZH followers.  This is merely the justice department though.

Several other alphabet agencies have vastly more data than this.

And the telecoms have immunity for collaboration.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:03 | 2839535 Dr. Richard Head
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An old time friend, who recently landed a job back in the NSA, does NOT carry a phone that has text capabilities on it and refuses to discuss much of anything over the phone anymore.  In fact, he won't keep it in his pocket.  Strange huh?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:15 | 2839573 pods
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Not at all.

People worry about facebook and how much information is on it. I think that if you are important enough, they have all the information they need already.
If you act like everything is open and tracked, you at least won't be surprised that it is. 


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:44 | 2839699 NewWorldOrange
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This shit was going on long before the (un)Patriot Act:

I have no doubt at all that the NSA intercepts, records, translates into text, and scans for key words, every single wired or wireless phone call, fax, email, etc. And they're admittedly now moving the center of operations from offshore to right in Der Homeland with the nearly-completed $10 billion dollar spy facility in Utah. Hell, the emails LolSec hacked from Stratfor alone prove that it is well beyond what this article will imply to many who are unaware of the vastly more complex and widespread (almost omniscient and omnipresent) nature of the U.S. surveillance apparatus.


Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:59 | 2839737 blu
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I and a guy I know recently launched an Internet startup. We're using small audio messages to enhance email and other text-based communications. It's a very simple hack pulled off in an elegant way with no barriers (technical or otherwise) to entry.

I realized a while back that we've probably broken a significant segment of the NSA's domestic surveillance model.

I won't elaborate. Obviously. But I laughed once I figured it out.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:25 | 2839766 NewWorldOrange
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Expect a lucrative buy-out offer from the NSA in due course. Keep a large interest and maybe you'll be the next Larry Ellison;)

"From a Central Intelligence Agency deal that launched the firm 25 years ago,to recent software contracts in Sacramento and Los Angeles, Oracle is no stranger to the halls of political power..."

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 15:48 | 2839874 blu
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I'm sure you meant that in the best possible way but actually I'd rather not become a rich frat-boy douche, thanks.

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