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Fitch Warns UK Likelihood It Loses AAA Rating Has Increased

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One-by-one, the highest quality collateral in the world (according to ratings that is) is disappearing. To wit, Fitch warns that a downgrade of the UK's AAA rating is increasingly likely: "weaker than expected growth and fiscal outturns in 2012 have increased pressure on the UK's 'AAA' rating, which has been on Negative Outlook since March 2012." The Negative Outlook on the UK rating reflects the very limited fiscal space, at the 'AAA' level, to absorb further adverse economic shocks in light of the UK's elevated debt levels and uncertain growth outlook. Global economic headwinds, including those emanating from the on-going eurozone crisis, have compounded the drag on UK growth from private sector deleveraging and fiscal consolidation as well as from depressed business and consumer confidence, weak investment, and constrained credit growth. But no mention of unlimited QE?

 

Via Fitch: -London-28 September 2012: Fitch Ratings has affirmed the United Kingdom's (UK) sovereign ratings as follows:
 
--Long-term foreign currency Issuer Default Rating (IDR) affirmed at 'AAA'
 
--Long-term local currency IDR affirmed at 'AAA'
 
--Country Ceiling affirmed at 'AAA'
 
--Short-term foreign currency rating affirmed at 'F1+'
 
The Outlooks on the Long-term IDRs have been maintained at Negative.
 
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However, weaker than expected growth and fiscal outturns in 2012 have increased pressure on the UK's 'AAA' rating, which has been on Negative Outlook since March 2012. With a structural budget deficit second in size within the 'AAA'category only to the US ('AAA'/Negative), and general government gross debt (GGGD) approaching 100% of GDP in 2015-16 under Fitch's revised baseline estimates - the upper limit of the level consistent with the UK retaining its 'AAA' status - the likelihood of a downgrade has therefore increased.
 
Global economic headwinds, including those emanating from the on-going eurozone crisis, have compounded the drag on UK growth from private sector deleveraging and fiscal consolidation as well as from depressed business and consumer confidence, weak investment, and constrained credit growth. Fitch now expects the economy to contract by 0.3% in 2012 compared to an expectation of growth of 0.8% when the UK sovereign rating was last formally reviewed in March 2012. The weaker than anticipated economy is reflected in lower corporate tax returns and higher public sector net borrowing, which in the five months to August was GBP59bn compared to GBP48.4bn over the same period in 2011. In light of these developments, Fitch has updated and revised its medium-term fiscal projections for the UK.
 
Fitch expects only a weak recovery beginning in 2013 and output is not expected to surpass its 2007 pre-crisis peak until 2014. However, the relative resilience of the labour market underscores the continuing uncertainty regarding the medium-term growth potential of the UK economy. Fitch has not revised its previous judgement that the potential annual growth rate of the UK economy is around 2.25% and this assumption is reflected in Fitch's latest economic and fiscal projections published today.
 
Fitch projects that GGGD and the government's preferred measure - public sector net debt excluding financial interventions (PSND ex) - will peak in 2015-16 at over 97% and 80% of GDP, respectively, before registering a decline in 2016-17. This is one year later than the authorities' supplementary target of having PSND ex decline as a share of GDP in 2015-16, and compares to a previous Fitch projected GGGD peak of about 94% of GDP in March 2012. Fitch's projections assume that the commitment by the Chancellor in last year's Autumn Statement of an additional GBP8bn and GBP15bn of deficit-reduction measures in 2015-16 and 2016-17 respectively will be implemented, though they fall outside the term of the current government and have yet to be specified. It is also assumed that the government implements its consolidation programme as laid out in the 2012 Budget. Fitch's projections are consistent with the government continuing to target a cyclically adjusted current balance by the end of the rolling, five-year forecast period.
 
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The Negative Outlook on the UK rating reflects the very limited fiscal space, at the 'AAA' level, to absorb further adverse economic shocks in light of the UK's elevated debt levels and uncertain growth outlook.
 
A downgrade of the UK's 'AAA' sovereign rating would likely be triggered by the following:
 
-- General government gross debt failing to stabilise below 100% of GDP and on a firm downward path towards 90% of GDP over the medium-term.
 
-- Discretionary fiscal easing that resulted in government debt peaking later and higher than currently forecast.
 
-- A material downward revision of the assessment of the UK's medium-term growth potential.
 

 


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Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:27 | Link to Comment RSloane
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The UK had a AAA rating? They've been in a recession for how long?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Silver Bug
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Should be rated junk, along with a lot more countries.

 

http://ericsprott.blogspot.ca/

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Dalago
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These rating agencies get paid by the entities they analyze!  Its a conflict of interest!  Fuck Fitch, fuck S&P and fuck Moody's.  They're always late to the show and only service the issuers they analyze.

 

Egan-Jones is the only honest one because they're investor supported rather than issuer-of-debt supported.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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Does fitch like to downgrade after the close for the weekend?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:39 | Link to Comment rfaze
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This just out from Fitch:

Increased chances of fire on Hindenburg may possilbe, outside chance, most likely never happen, don't worry about it, result in increase in insurance costs.  

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:41 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Potter got the bad news under control.

Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbF7xTlrUJA

I want my 2 ozs at the closing bell.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Margaret Thatcher comes to mind.?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Most developed countries with a printer have the luxury of a AAA rating even if defaulting by inflation is still technically a default.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:49 | Link to Comment spentCartridge
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Since about 1979.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Solon the Destroyer
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I expect this downgrade is coming because they wanted it to.

Help devalue the pound through the selling of pound-based collateral and thus aid exports.  The AAA was probably too difficult of a cross for that economy to bear.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Boeing Boy
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We don't fix our economic stats quite so obviously as you American losers....

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment AttilaTheHun
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The UK had a AAA rating? They've been in a recession for how long?

 

Since about the time of The Crusades in the 14thCentury.

 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Jlmadyson
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Less talk, more action at this point Fitch.

Been waving these downgrade warnings for far too long with no action.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Bolweevil
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This makes for wonderful six-nations rugby. vive Chabal!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:29 | Link to Comment magpie
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Silly me, i thought it was time again for an US or German downgrade threat.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:30 | Link to Comment VonManstein
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London is a vibrant city from hell

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Boeing Boy
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+1

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:30 | Link to Comment LongSoupLine
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How the fuck does the UK have any "A" within their rating at all?!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:32 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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Cuz that's where the BAR's at.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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Royalty hates to get caught with their pants down or their tops off.... /s

You know you looked... and now you are on the MI6 no fly list

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Boeing Boy
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You have food stamps for the equiv of 70% of our population, like comparing a first world country with a developing one.   Good luck losers.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:33 | Link to Comment goldfreak
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In other news Fitch warns Kirstie Alley and Dom Deluise may be slightly overweight

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:31 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Que up, you fucking U.K. sheep.  Race you to the bottom!

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Boeing Boy
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Queue loser.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:32 | Link to Comment J 457
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In other news DNDN?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:35 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Why does UK have a AAA rating in the first place? Its total debt to GDP is astronomical.  Apart from naked pictures of royalty, what does it produce? 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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Chavs.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment No Euros please...
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I think you'll find that a lot of this astronomical debt is resident with the banks. Banks that are mainly foreign subsidiaries resident in London to take full advantage of the lax (zero) rules on rehypothecation. When the SHTF you may find all these astronomical debts being relocated to their parent countries. Maybe a little like the recent JPM losses?

And of course as as been mention we can PRINT, BABY, PRINT.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:08 | Link to Comment timbo_em
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If the S really HFT there might be the chance that a lot of foreign banks simply walk away from their English subsidiary. Crédit Agricole did this once in Argentina and either they sell their Greek branch pretty soon before the Grexit happens or they will do it again.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:00 | Link to Comment timbo_em
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Every summer they export large quantities of drunk chicks to all destinations in the southern mediterranean sea and the Canary Islands.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Kalevi
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I rated those pic's 34B.

I don't rate male royals, can't figure any parameters for their use.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:14 | Link to Comment giovanni_f
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Our beloved island-of-the-apes or Zimbabwe-in-the-sea, as it is called from time to time, produces colonial legacies all over the planet, artificial nations in NE, Africa, Asia, terrible food, and a disrespect for law if it is to protect individuals and not banks (Assange). It is unparalleled in producing "financial innovations", e.g. re-hypothecation schemes so that MFG clients can be corzined legally. And it produces lectures, mainly to the continent, about almost everything. And it produces assholes like Tony Blair. It is second to none when it comes to produce hideouts for russian mafia oligarchs, or a platform for the anti-assad jihadists operating under the label "syrian human rights watch". You see, it produces a lot.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Boeing Boy
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I can think of 17 trillion reasons...

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 19:07 | Link to Comment AttilaTheHun
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It's a major exporter of jobs and a world leader in importing cheap labour.  It produces the largest European mountain of Quantitative Dis-easing !

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:33 | Link to Comment youngman
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retail sales down..unemployment up...economy is blood and kidney pie.....yeah it should be downgraded....years ago...but they can print just like the USA...

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:33 | Link to Comment No Euros please...
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Guess that means they'll be raising the state pension retirement age from 68 to 80. Oh, of course not for public sector workers who will continue to be eligible for full index linked gold plated pensions from the age of 50.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Floodmaster
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Public sector is 53% of the economy, the rest is imperialist plunder and banksterism, the bbc should do a documentary on that.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Lost Wages
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Isn't the UK just one big rehypothecated junk bond?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:36 | Link to Comment l1b3rty
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Has all that QE just not done the trick!??? Dammit! 

 

http://silvervigilante.com

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:36 | Link to Comment PUD
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EU's Junker is comforted...(ran squawk)

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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I can't believe that they are still rated triple A. They've been financing their huge deficits by printing money like mad for almost five years and they are still rated triple A? What a joke!

Any country that resorts to financing itself through the use of a printing press has no business being rated "triple A".

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment CitizenPete
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New Federal Reserve Working Papers posted online, for those of you that like propaganda from a bankers world view.

 

http://www.fedinprint.org/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?AC=QBE_QUERY&TN=fipnew&CS=1&RF=new+working+papers&QB0=AND&QF0=DES&QI0=new+wps&RL=0&NP=3

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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i have an idea.. just lower them to negative triple zzz.. then well get the red day cleanup crew to make things pretty like the equity markets today.. problem solved. its so simple why make it so complicated?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Great! I'm playing intraday "cable shorts". That trade is overbought! The M/E's , SNB, and other small CB's have been rinse washing through the £ for months !

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment youngman
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What are all of those new europeans that bought flats in London going to do now...it was a safe haven they thought.....

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Calidreaming
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This is Bullish right?

 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:45 | Link to Comment PUD
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Corn limit up, oil rippin again, global manufacturing in depression, dow green...Junker is comforted and the dumpsters are secure

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:50 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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gee.. im wall street and i just cant understand for the life of me why retail doesnt want "in" in my rigged market. see today prime example. Keep scaring em away

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:51 | Link to Comment J 457
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When will S&P downgrade USA again.  This could be the black swan.  Is it not about that time?  Has ANY fiscal progress been made- nope.  Only deterioration since last downgrade.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Tsar Pointless
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Is this little nugget or the Spanish bank "stress" test news the reason for the equity spike here on our side of the pond?

Or both?

Or, is it none of the above, and merely the usual end-of-month/post-European close/Friday afternoon ramp job?

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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End of Quarter/ rampfest

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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The Great Depression of 1873 was called "the long Depression" in Britain because it didn't end until the 1890's. Basically "nothing worked." The German economy at that time however very much came of age. I'm not sure what keeps these downgrades from rolling in. Yet again the USA discovers how fortunate it is to have the world's reserve currency. To date spreads have narrowed dramatically via market mechanisms and the question STILL going forward is one of "how to grow." (As with Germany I might add.) throw in "disorders of all kind" and things could get interesting...

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:15 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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Oh im sure one of their growth plans has something to do with Iran.  What a goddamn joke the US is.  It's to the point I can't do anything but just sit back and laugh at these clowns until they make it to the point I can't even exist.  I don't really buy into the conspiracy of depopulation, it will happen but because they are all fucking stupid and greedy.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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How do any of these insolvent worthless POS countries have anything other than FFF next to their name is beyond me!

Kinda like some of the NFL players with 4.0 grade averages. Ha, yeah right.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:16 | Link to Comment armagediontimes
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No country in the world is more admired and respected than the UK - and, in part, this is reflected in its credit rating. Its citizens willingly sacrifice both blood and treasure in order to bring freedom to the peoples of many far away lands.

The UK is the 22nd most populus country in the world and yet is the worlds  4th largest exporter of arms. All this is achieved by only requiring 25% of the 17 to 64 male age group to actually hold down a full time job. What other country could provide such liesure, educational and recreational opportunities for 75% of its notional workforce and still out produce the bulk of the rest of the planet in terms of tanks and planes and boats?

With examples such as the foregoing for what possible reason (other than egregious stupidity or simpe envy) would any sane entity contemplate downgrading the credit rating of the UK.

 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:57 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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The UK pales in comparison to the US when it comes to bringing freedom to the peoples of many far away lands as you say. In fact we'll fucking kill them if they don't go along with it. By the millions.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:22 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Do it already!!! Stop threatening and take action. The UK isn't going to care about your announced threat Fitch.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:23 | Link to Comment magpie
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Now now, it's only Le Fitch. Waiting for countermoves against La Grande Nation.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:32 | Link to Comment ceilidh_trail
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O/T: Man in fed court in Covington, Ky after being arrested running a police blockade for obama's motorcade while visiting Cincinnati last week. In car was 2 pistols, AR15 and hundreds of rounds of ammo...

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 14:56 | Link to Comment d_taco
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Strange I know it a year ago. As I mentioned again and again here. UK= Zimbabwe in the North Sea.

Wait for the moment investors figure out that their Yield is produced by the BofE printing pres.

And there will be no Germany to save it.

 

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:21 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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"output is not expected to surpass its 2007 pre-crisis peak until 2014"

Someone at Fitch has quite a sense of humor.

Fri, 09/28/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment zippy_uk
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With all these LIBOR favours we dished out you can forget any rating agency downgrades - too many dead bodies buried that need to stay where they are. Let's not forget that ratings agencies have there own honesty issues around sub prime....

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 03:14 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Grades'consequences are not the same for everyone.

For regions of the world like UK, those grades mean nothing.

Being downgraded, they might even end borrowing at a lower rate. 'American' econometrics.

'American' Geitner who pointed that out, when telling that the US could not finish like Greece.
Lower grade for the US meant easier borrowing.
For Greece, that was something else.

'Americans' keep behaving as if they were practising justice when their world is a world of justice.

Dont ask an 'american' to adjust to the fact though, he or she simply cant and will prefer propaganda and fantasy anytime.

Sat, 09/29/2012 - 10:57 | Link to Comment coltek
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Ooopsy......Boy George is late with the brown envelope again!

Wed, 10/24/2012 - 03:31 | Link to Comment JenniferS
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These ratings agencies & their ratings fucking get me! I mean, they're not like personal financial advisers, & sure, they do a lot of analysis to make their decisions, but is it really beneficial for a struggling country to pay more interest on liquidity loans just because a bunch of pen-pushers say the country or state are doing things tough?  Sure, if a bank or corporation is a high risk investment the people should know about it, but a state or national government is a bit different from a consumerist entity. Does it really help the world's stagnant economy to issue these ratings?

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